# Reality Check: how to reform social care – with David Goodhart

An episode of [Best of the Spectator](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/793236670), 31 Jul 2026, 23 min.

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Andy Burnham has launched a major push to overhaul adult social care in England, seeking cross-party consensus for a new National Care Service. He has refused to rule out tax rises to fund the reforms. Michael Simmons speaks to the author and journalist David Goodhart about why social care should be reframed as prevention, whether salaries should be increased in social care and why the public isn't as worried as politicians tend to panic about. This episode is brought to you by Alliance Witan investment trust. To learn more about the trust and how we’re helping investors find their comfort zone, please visit https://www.alliancewitan.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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