# Spectator Out Loud: Tim Shipman – with Kemi Badenoch, Justin Marozzi, Christopher Howse & Lara Prendergast

An episode of [Best of the Spectator](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/793236670), 14 Jun 2026, 30 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68358fb5e1abc4be6b0308eb/e/6a2be2c9fe0bc9a32aed8895/media.mp3?tk=eyJ0ayI6ImRlZmF1bHQiLCJhZHMiOnRydWUsInNwb25zIjp0cnVlLCJzdGF0dXMiOiJwdWJsaWMifQ==&sig=V5i6187Hs09s_MtM6jRCIYx8zN3-PbNVIHpH06HYSl8

On this week’s Spectator Out Loud: Tim Shipman interviews Kemi Badenoch – including excerpts from the interview; Justin Marozzi argues that Trump’s strategy has only strengthened the Iranian regime; Christopher Howse pays tribute to ‘London’s rudest landlord'; and finally, Lara Prendergasts says that ‘matrescence’ is one big con. Produced and presented by Patrick Gibbons. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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