# Spectator Out Loud: James Heale, Iona Bain, Tali Fraser & James Phillips

An episode of [Best of the Spectator](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/793236670), 26 Jul 2026, 24 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68358fb5e1abc4be6b0308eb/e/6a6371d5a7fbf9da142b51bb/media.mp3?tk=eyJ0ayI6ImRlZmF1bHQiLCJhZHMiOnRydWUsInNwb25zIjp0cnVlLCJzdGF0dXMiOiJwdWJsaWMifQ==&sig=LVBejtLAzyHRBWqLvelJf7yx-e_dPpiOntk89KFYLPI

On this week’s Spectator Out Loud: James Heale explains what the Opposition parties plan to do now that Andy Burnham is in No 10; Iona Bain explains why premium bonds are a pointless way to save for your child, and what to do instead; Tali Fraser asks whether we should be rolling back the years and all return to a barter economy; and finally, James Phillips reviews Biological War: A Scenario by Annie Jacobsen, giving us all a very friendly flashback to 2020. Produced and presented by Henry Lloyd. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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