# Freezing your eggs in prison, the pepper spray debate + four generations of wood choppers

An episode of [Hack](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/78995043), 14 Oct 2026, 29 min.

Audio: https://mediacore-live-production.akamaized.net/audio/02/pe/Z/8h.mp3

Should prisoners be allowed to freeze their eggs? A 'landmark' High Court decision could soon give one Queenslander prisoner the chance after her initial application was rejected. And the NT government has announced it will make pepper spray available to 16 and 17-year-olds as it moves to permanently legalise the weapon for self-defence. We speak to both sides of the debate. Plus, it’s not often you see intergenerational competition in sport... unless you attend your local wood chopping competition, where it’s often passed down through families. Listen now: 01:10 – Prison reproductive health 07:01 – Legalising pepper spray 24:55 – Fourth-generation wood choppers Guests: • Talissa Siganto, ABC Reporter • Tatum Martin, advocate for the legalisation of pepper spray • Jeff Rodwell, pepper spray retailer • Dr Chay Brown, FDV victim survivor and advocate Get the whole story from hack: • Follow us on Instagram and TikTok • Subscribe to the hack podcast • Listen on the triple j app or on your radio live every weeknight at 5:30pm

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