# Key Change: Jia Tolentino on "I Love You Always Forever"

An episode of [Song Exploder](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/788236947), 27 Aug 2025, 17 min.

Audio: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/tracking.swap.fm/track/sblTq32fyWAjsHzze2LG/dovetail.prxu.org/93/32b2b0b8-106f-4e6f-b2f0-dfa1f7fa6024/KeyChange7-Jia_Tolentino-Part1.mp3

My guest today is Jia Tolentino. Jia is the author of the essay collection Trick Mirror, which was named one of the best books of 2019 by The New York Times Book Review, NPR, The Paris Review, and more. She won a National Magazine Award for her work at the New Yorker, where she’s been a staff writer since 2016. Her writing covers so many different topics, from Roe V. Wade to the internet to pop culture and music. And today, we’re going to talk about the 1996 pop hit “I Love You Always Forever” by Donna Lewis. For more, visit songexploder.net/jia-tolentino.

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