# Episode 139: Mondays at The Overhead Wire - Do Pedestrians Exist in the Model?

An episode of [Talking Headways: A Streetsblog Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/775143271), 5 Sep 2023, 24 min.

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This week on Mondays we're joined by Kevin DeGood of The Center for American Progress to talk about a study by NCDOT and NC State on Connected Autonomous Vehicles at Intersections. This leads into a discussion about policy related to autonomous vehicles and saturation. It's not our usual Mondays news format but it's a shorter show and gets right to the point! OOO Follow us on twitter @theoverheadwire Follow us on Mastadon theoverheadwire@sfba.social Support the show on Patreon http://patreon.com/theoverheadwire Buy books on our Bookshop.org Affiliate site! And get our Cars are Cholesterol shirt at Tee-Public! And everything else at http://theoverheadwire.com

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