# Episode 566: Concrete Doesn't Spend Money, People Do

An episode of [Talking Headways: A Streetsblog Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/775143271), 12 Feb 2026, 1 h 02 min.

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This week on The Talking Headways podcast we're joined by Dr. Lawrence Frank to talk about how the built environment and the way we get around connect to public health outcomes. We also discuss the shortcomings of cost benefit analysis, and the systematic externalization of health benefits. +++ Get the show ad free on Patreon! Find out about our newsletter and archive on YouTube! Follow us on Bluesky, Threads, Instagram, YouTube, Flickr, Substack ... @theoverheadwire Follow us on Mastadon theoverheadwire@sfba.social Support the show on Patreon http://patreon.com/theoverheadwire Buy books on our Bookshop.org Affiliate site! And get our Cars are Cholesterol shirt at Tee-Public! And everything else at http://theoverheadwire.com

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