# Episode 498: Transit Leadership for the Future

An episode of [Talking Headways: A Streetsblog Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/775143271), 5 Sep 2024, 47 min.

Audio: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/streetsblog/TalkingHeadways_PCDK_09042024.mp3?dest-id=170891

This week on Talking Headways we're joined by podcaster and transit expert Paul Comfort and former California State Transportation Agency Secretary David Kim to talk about their ensemble book The New Future of Public Transportation. We talk about writing cookbooks, road user charges, and the importance of leadership. +++ Follow us on twitter @theoverheadwire Follow us on Mastadon theoverheadwire@sfba.social Follow us on Threads or Instagram @theoverheadwire Support the show on Patreon http://patreon.com/theoverheadwire Buy books on our Bookshop.org Affiliate site! And get our Cars are Cholesterol shirt at Tee-Public! And everything else at http://theoverheadwire.com

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