# Episode 488: When Driving is Not An Option

An episode of [Talking Headways: A Streetsblog Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/775143271), 20 Jun 2024, 33 min.

Audio: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/streetsblog/TalkingHeadways_AZ2_06192024.mp3?dest-id=170891

This week on Talking Headways I'm joined by SPUR's Laura Tolkoff to interview Anna Zivarts about her new book: When Driving Is Not an Option: Steering Away from Car Dependency. We chat about non-drivers, car seats, and the week without driving. *** Join our Happy Hour with Seamless Bay Area by RSVPing. *** Follow us on twitter @theoverheadwire Follow us on Mastadon theoverheadwire@sfba.social Follow us on Threads or Instagram @theoverheadwire Support the show on Patreon http://patreon.com/theoverheadwire Buy books on our Bookshop.org Affiliate site! And get our Cars are Cholesterol shirt at Tee-Public! And everything else at http://theoverheadwire.com

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