# Back to Back Barries: Trump, climate targets and a turn to One Nation

An episode of [Back to Back Barries](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/6816273636), 19 Sep 2025, 30 min.

Audio: https://flex.acast.com/audio.guim.co.uk/2025/09/19-17420-fs_barries_climate_20250919_ds_1330.mp3

Barrie Cassidy and Tony Barry examine the politics of climate policy after Anthony Albanese revealed Australia’s 2035 emissions target. They also discuss the prime minister’s failure to secure a defence treaty in Papua New Guinea, Donald Trump’s clash with an ABC journalist and why recent polling shows some voters are moving to the right.

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