# Back to Back Barries: Albanese and the world waits on Trump

An episode of [Back to Back Barries](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/6816273636), 20 Jun 2025, 23 min.

Audio: https://flex.acast.com/audio.guim.co.uk/2025/06/20-21003-Barries_Trump_ch_190625_1755.mp3

As the US president deliberates on whether or not to launch strikes on Iran, Barrie Cassidy and Tony Barry discuss the global effort to de-escalate the conflict in the Middle East and what it all means for Australian politics. Also in this episode: Could Jim Chalmers be the next prime minister?

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