# Back to Back Barries: Can Dutton regain discipline and confidence?

An episode of [Back to Back Barries](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/6816273636), 21 Mar 2025, 29 min.

Audio: https://flex.acast.com/audio.guim.co.uk/2025/03/21-46383-Barries_EP5_.mp3

This week we are still in election limbo, so how can leaders maintain their focus during a long pseudo-campaign? Tony Barry and Barrie Cassidy examine Dutton’s surprise dual citizenship referendum idea – one that even his own party colleagues weren’t expecting – as well as the upcoming budget, Aukus and why every election campaign needs a villain Email the Barries at backtobackbarries@theguardian.com

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