# Would You Rather: Trade Herbert, Eagles Fandom, QB or Kicker and more + Seahawks-Broncos TNF Preview

An episode of [NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/680904259), 13 Oct 2026, 56 min.

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Gregg Rosenthal and Colleen Wolfe play a round of would you rather where they ask you, whether you would take Justin Herbert or 3 first round picks, be an Eagles, Bills or Ravens fan, pick the Vikings to win the NFC North or the field, be a franchise QB or legendary kicker and more! Plus, updates to news from around the NFL including Alaric Jackson and Dre Greenlaw's suspensions, the Bears QB situation and Kellen Moore's job security with the Saints before wrapping the show with a preview of the Seahawks and Broncos playing on Thursday Night Football. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:04] Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we don't believe in jet lag.
[0:08] Speaker 1: My name is Greg Rosenthal. I'm in the Chris Wesleyan
[0:11] Speaker 1: podcast studio with Colleen Wolfe, who definitely knows where she
[0:18] Speaker 1: is right now. Totally.
[0:20] Speaker 2: I'm not having any problems thinking about where I am
[0:25] Speaker 2: using words or dealing with my eye. I was going
[0:28] Speaker 2: to say my eyelash twitching. Nope, it's my eyelid that's twitching.
[0:31] Speaker 1: Just twitching. We don't know what's going on with Colleen.
[0:34] Speaker 1: We do know she missed her initial flight back from London.
[0:40] Speaker 1: after two hours of sleep.
[0:42] Speaker 2: Well it's not like i was out partying it's that
[0:45] Speaker 2: he throws a disaster and i there was not enough
[0:49] Speaker 2: time to get to the airport to get onto the
[0:52] Speaker 2: flight so i got on another flight and we're good
[0:54] Speaker 2: i have not been in the city of los angeles
[0:57] Speaker 2: for more than 24 hours but i'm here to do
[1:00] Speaker 2: the pod with you greg and can i.
[1:02] Speaker 3: Just say real quick Yeah. That game in London.
[1:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:06] Speaker 3: The crowd. I've done a lot of the international games.
[1:09] Speaker 2: I've done a lot of international games at Tottenham Hotspur
[1:12] Speaker 2: Stadium in London. That was the strangest crowd situation.
[1:17] Speaker 1: Strange.
[1:18] Speaker 3: And those are my people, Eagles fans. It was packed
[1:20] Speaker 3: with Eagles fans. It was the Eagles fans.
[1:24] Speaker 1: They are.
[1:24] Speaker 2: I love them and I can see myself in them.
[1:29] Speaker 2: It was the most ornery crowd I've ever experienced in
[1:32] Speaker 2: my life. Usually it's like a party atmosphere at the
[1:35] Speaker 2: international games, but The Eagles fans did not want to
[1:38] Speaker 2: play along. They did not want to cheer. It was
[1:42] Speaker 2: really difficult to get anything going because also it was
[1:45] Speaker 2: a Jags home game, so we had to talk about
[1:48] Speaker 2: the fact that it was a Jags home game.
[1:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Eagles were being spicy and leading for
[1:52] Speaker 1: so much of it.
[1:53] Speaker 2: So even when the Eagles were winning, I could, it
[1:56] Speaker 2: was Eagles fans did not want to cheer.
[1:58] Speaker 3: I think because they're angry at the team.
[2:01] Speaker 2: So they didn't want to cheer the team, but they
[2:03] Speaker 2: also didn't want them to lose. So it was like
[2:06] Speaker 2: a really weird spot for them to be in. I
[2:08] Speaker 2: couldn't even like when I asked them to boo, they booed.
[2:10] Speaker 2: So that's like, okay, I got.
[2:12] Speaker 3: Something out of them, but it was really difficult.
[2:15] Speaker 2: And like, And then at one point we lost power
[2:19] Speaker 2: in not like the lights didn't go out, but we
[2:22] Speaker 2: lost the ability to like play music and have like the, um,
[2:26] Speaker 2: the PA announced like the plays and stuff because somebody
[2:29] Speaker 2: plugged in.
[2:30] Speaker 3: Their computer and shorted.
[2:33] Speaker 2: So then for a while, it was just silent in
[2:35] Speaker 2: there with like lots of angry Eagles fans.
[2:38] Speaker 3: And it was just a really interesting experience.
[2:41] Speaker 1: And yes, you famously an Eagles fan yourself. Yes. And
[2:45] Speaker 1: you are in charge of the breaks.
[2:49] Speaker 3: I'm a hype man.
[2:50] Speaker 1: You're at the stadium on the big screen. It's Colleen asking...
[2:57] Speaker 1: For booze. Yeah. Wait, someone, it really, are you joking
[3:00] Speaker 1: that someone plugged in their computer and that was the problem?
[3:03] Speaker 3: It actually happened.
[3:03] Speaker 1: It's going to age me, but that's like, it's almost
[3:05] Speaker 1: like a scene from airplane where they just like unplug things. Um,
[3:08] Speaker 1: that's incredible. They must've been going crazy when they hit
[3:13] Speaker 1: the field goal to take the lead because, and we're
[3:16] Speaker 1: going to get into the Eagles situation a little bit more,
[3:20] Speaker 1: but why not? We're here. It's fine. The loose show.
[3:22] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[3:23] Speaker 4: Podcast.
[3:25] Speaker 1: That could have been one of the best moments of
[3:28] Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni's tenure. And so they must have been crazy.
[3:33] Speaker 1: But the whiplash from the game-winning field goal to the
[3:38] Speaker 1: other game-winning field goal, what was that like for you
[3:42] Speaker 1: in the stadium?
[3:43] Speaker 3: I I don't I'm I still have not recovered from it.
[3:48] Speaker 2: And because we left our our area that we were
[3:51] Speaker 2: in for the majority of the game and then we
[3:53] Speaker 2: went and sat up with like the house band. So
[3:56] Speaker 2: that was like a little bit more of a lively section.
[3:58] Speaker 2: And there was this one Jags fan who was just
[4:00] Speaker 2: surrounded by all of these Eagles fans. And he the
[4:03] Speaker 2: whole time, like he came over and he's like, oh,
[4:06] Speaker 2: I love he loves the pod, whatever. And the Jags
[4:10] Speaker 2: at that point were like up. But then when the
[4:14] Speaker 2: Eagles kicked the field goal, I'm pointing at him and
[4:17] Speaker 2: he's like, oh, no.
[4:18] Speaker 3: And then, of course, when.
[4:20] Speaker 2: The Jags kicked the game winning field goal. He's pointing
[4:23] Speaker 2: at me and I'm like, you're outnumbered.
[4:25] Speaker 3: Everybody get him. So it was, I feel like I
[4:28] Speaker 3: had to be escorted out of the stadium.
[4:30] Speaker 1: It doesn't, it doesn't surprise me. That is, that is fascinating.
[4:33] Speaker 1: And yeah, I do love that there's now like a
[4:36] Speaker 1: long enough history there that the fans there get a
[4:39] Speaker 1: different personality. And it depends on the game. Look, the
[4:41] Speaker 1: Jaguars had to go silent snap count on offense because
[4:44] Speaker 1: the Eagles fans were loud enough once I think they
[4:47] Speaker 1: started getting into the game. And the Eagles fans, as
[4:49] Speaker 1: we've seen at Super Bowls, travel probably better than anyone
[4:52] Speaker 1: else in terms of.
[4:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, Eagles fans affect the game.
[4:56] Speaker 1: Great job. That's really working out for you. We're going
[4:58] Speaker 1: to get into that. We're going to talk. We're going
[5:02] Speaker 1: to do some would you rathers.
[5:03] Speaker 2: Okay.
[5:03] Speaker 1: After week five of the season, a lot's going on.
[5:06] Speaker 1: We're also going to hit some news, some fallout of
[5:10] Speaker 1: that Rams-Bills classic.
[5:13] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[5:13] Speaker 1: Are we ready to call it a classic?
[5:15] Speaker 3: It felt like a classic.
[5:16] Speaker 1: It's very memorable. Did have 24 penalties, but you know,
[5:20] Speaker 1: the last two MVPs and just nonstop touchdowns. And then
[5:23] Speaker 1: the game ends. We were not aware. We're taping the
[5:26] Speaker 1: postgame show. And Alaric Jackson gets involved in something that
[5:31] Speaker 1: could get him suspended. We have some injury news. That's
[5:33] Speaker 1: all going to come up later on the show. We
[5:34] Speaker 1: also will do a TNF preview of a really interesting
[5:38] Speaker 1: TNF game between the Broncos and the Seahawks. But let's
[5:40] Speaker 1: start with the would you rathers. This could be anything. Great.
[5:43] Speaker 1: This could be stupid. I guess. Why don't you go first?
[5:46] Speaker 1: All right. It's a little Eagles related.
[5:47] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[5:48] Speaker 1: You know what?
[5:48] Speaker 2: We'll get this one out of the way. Greg, would
[5:52] Speaker 2: you rather. Be forced to watch all 70 minutes.
[5:56] Speaker 1: All of them.
[5:57] Speaker 2: We're not doing like condensed version on Game Pass or
[6:00] Speaker 2: anything like that. Okay. All 70 minutes of the Giants-Commanders
[6:03] Speaker 2: tie again.
[6:05] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[6:06] Speaker 2: Or be forced to explain the Eagles' final kickoff decision
[6:10] Speaker 2: to an entire room of Philadelphia fans.
[6:12] Speaker 3: Which one would be a better scenario?
[6:15] Speaker 1: Now, I did watch the condensed version. I think I
[6:19] Speaker 1: would do that because I don't want to be in
[6:21] Speaker 1: a room with you people. And it is hard to explain.
[6:25] Speaker 1: It is hard to explain because I heard another one
[6:28] Speaker 1: of your compatriots, another Eagles fan who's in the media,
[6:31] Speaker 1: Shiel Kapadia, try to explain. And this is what I thought,
[6:35] Speaker 1: but I didn't have the guts to like make this
[6:37] Speaker 1: case that I don't think it was like, that bad
[6:40] Speaker 1: a decision what Nick Sirianni did at the end of
[6:42] Speaker 1: the game. You should have done a better job maybe
[6:44] Speaker 1: trying to drain the clock and there's a play where
[6:46] Speaker 1: the guy goes out of bounds and stuff. Mm-hmm. It
[6:50] Speaker 1: felt a little closer to 50-50 to me in terms
[6:53] Speaker 1: of making that kickoff. But to be in the room
[6:56] Speaker 1: with the Eagles fans, I've been trying to work out more. Okay.
[7:00] Speaker 1: You know, with Steven, the trainer.
[7:01] Speaker 3: Just preparing for this.
[7:02] Speaker 1: But I would be outnumbered, frankly. And I'm a sicko.
[7:05] Speaker 1: I love football. There was a lot going on in
[7:07] Speaker 1: that Giants-Commanders game. It was kind of fun. It was
[7:09] Speaker 1: kind of fun.
[7:10] Speaker 2: Right.
[7:10] Speaker 3: But you did choose to watch the condensed version.
[7:13] Speaker 1: Yes. Well, it would have taken like four hours of
[7:15] Speaker 1: my life. So many plays and so much Jameis Winston.
[7:20] Speaker 1: And like, yeah, I'm going Eagles.
[7:23] Speaker 2: I can't believe every single team lost. But then seeing
[7:27] Speaker 2: the way that everybody... Nobody got a win. Not everybody lost.
[7:31] Speaker 3: That's right.
[7:31] Speaker 1: Hold on.
[7:31] Speaker 2: Let me rewind back. It's just that no one won
[7:34] Speaker 2: in the NFC East.
[7:35] Speaker 1: You know what? If Dan Quinn agrees with you, he
[7:39] Speaker 1: kept referring on the podium on Monday to like, yeah,
[7:43] Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, I'm sorry. Like, I understand
[7:45] Speaker 1: how they feel after a loss like that. It's not
[7:47] Speaker 1: going to hurt. And no one's even correcting him. So
[7:49] Speaker 1: he doesn't even know. Well, let's actually listen to Dan
[7:53] Speaker 1: Quinn on the day after this story happened. has been
[7:58] Speaker 1: gold for like the local reporters, even the national reporters.
[8:01] Speaker 1: Like some stories, I remember the fail Mary back in
[8:03] Speaker 1: the day with Russell Wilson, that game just doesn't matter
[8:07] Speaker 1: how many stories you put out. Like people are reading
[8:09] Speaker 1: this and are fascinating. So people have been trying to
[8:11] Speaker 1: figure out what happened. Let's listen to Dan Quinn on
[8:15] Speaker 1: the day after.
[8:15] Speaker 4: Okay.
[8:16] Speaker 1: It was a breakdown that it can't happen.
[8:18] Speaker 5: And, uh, our time today as a team was spent
[8:21] Speaker 5: on the how and the why and make sure that
[8:23] Speaker 5: it never does again. So, Yesterday's ending was the biggest example,
[8:28] Speaker 5: but we've got a lot of shit to clean up
[8:29] Speaker 5: on from yesterday's game. And trust me, everyone in this building,
[8:33] Speaker 5: starting with me, feels that urgency.
[8:35] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the entire division is in the same boat.
[8:39] Speaker 1: John Harbaugh is the one that's happy, which is funny,
[8:43] Speaker 1: but they were down two touchdowns twice in the, like
[8:47] Speaker 1: once in the fourth quarter, once late in the third quarter,
[8:50] Speaker 1: you're down with nine points in a rainstorm down to
[8:53] Speaker 1: touchdowns with Jameis Winston as your quarterback that almost got
[8:57] Speaker 1: Dan Quinn off the hook of like his defense completely
[8:59] Speaker 1: collapsed and turned Jameis Winston into like Johnny Unitas or something.
[9:05] Speaker 1: I listened to some of the, like a local podcast
[9:07] Speaker 1: actually on the way in today. Okay. I'll take command. I've,
[9:09] Speaker 1: I've shouted out a lot, but I think it's one
[9:11] Speaker 1: of the best that goes over like the tape and
[9:13] Speaker 1: the film. And, but they were trying to talk about
[9:14] Speaker 1: that situation. The longer that they've explained it, I do
[9:18] Speaker 1: sort of get what happened, which is they called the
[9:21] Speaker 1: play and the biggest mistake they made was substituting the
[9:25] Speaker 1: players in. And then it took Jane Daniels forever to
[9:29] Speaker 1: get the playoff. When they called that play, they are
[9:32] Speaker 1: thinking we're going to snap the ball maybe with like
[9:36] Speaker 1: 35 seconds to go. And everyone is just taking time.
[9:38] Speaker 1: So I think Jane Daniels did a bad job probably
[9:41] Speaker 1: telling everyone what to do after each and every play.
[9:44] Speaker 1: And at a certain point, you would have had to things.
[9:47] Speaker 1: But it's probably more on that first time offensive coordinator
[9:50] Speaker 1: like sending in substitutes and like no one knew. I mean,
[9:53] Speaker 1: the other teammates didn't know. It's never happened. Someone did
[9:56] Speaker 1: go back and look to see.
[9:57] Speaker 3: Never ever.
[9:58] Speaker 1: If a team inside the 25 yard line in the
[10:02] Speaker 1: final minute of a tie game, like in overtime, like
[10:06] Speaker 1: ever just didn't even get like a game winning field
[10:08] Speaker 1: goal kickoff. Like this never happened.
[10:10] Speaker 2: I mean, they wouldn't, they just completely missed their opportunity
[10:14] Speaker 2: to win the game.
[10:14] Speaker 3: And it was right there on a tee.
[10:17] Speaker 1: Like, If that happened in a high school game, they
[10:21] Speaker 1: made this comparison on the show. If that may happen
[10:23] Speaker 1: in a high school game, you're going into the athletic
[10:26] Speaker 1: director's office and you might get fired. Or... You're going
[10:30] Speaker 1: to be in hot water. And people have been calling
[10:32] Speaker 1: for Dan Quinn to be fired. I think that's stupid.
[10:34] Speaker 3: That might be a little much.
[10:37] Speaker 1: How is that going to help them? It's not. This year.
[10:39] Speaker 1: They're also one loss or one and a half losses,
[10:42] Speaker 1: I guess, out of first place. They outplayed the Giants
[10:45] Speaker 1: for most of that game. They were so close to
[10:47] Speaker 1: being one game back in the worst division in football.
[10:50] Speaker 2: I feel like that game actually gave Nick Sirianni a
[10:54] Speaker 2: little bit of cover.
[10:55] Speaker 5: Yes.
[10:56] Speaker 1: I was saying that for a while, uh, Drake may
[10:59] Speaker 1: would like Justin Herbert is loving Drake May right now.
[11:02] Speaker 1: Cause everyone is just paying attention to Drake May. Now
[11:04] Speaker 1: that's not happening again. We're paying attention to Justin Herbert.
[11:06] Speaker 4: Sorry.
[11:06] Speaker 1: All right. I'll go and give you just a stupid one. Um,
[11:11] Speaker 1: would you rather call plays? And this is you, Colleen Wolf. You,
[11:15] Speaker 1: you can do as much research as you want and
[11:16] Speaker 1: get help. But in the end, you have to go
[11:18] Speaker 1: on the sideline and call the plays on a Sunday.
[11:21] Speaker 2: Okay.
[11:23] Speaker 1: In the NFL against a Brian Flores defense, you're the
[11:27] Speaker 1: offensive coordinator or you're the defensive coordinator and you have
[11:32] Speaker 1: to call the plays against a Kyle Shanahan offense.
[11:36] Speaker 3: I don't want to go against Brian Flores.
[11:38] Speaker 1: Okay.
[11:38] Speaker 3: And it's that easy. It's that simple.
[11:39] Speaker 2: I don't want to put any of my players through
[11:43] Speaker 2: what the wrath that Kyle is unleashed upon an offense
[11:47] Speaker 2: and upon an offensive line and a quarterback from Brian Flores.
[11:51] Speaker 3: He is unconventional.
[11:53] Speaker 2: He does not care what anyone else thinks, what anyone
[11:56] Speaker 2: thinks about his blitz rate. He's just going to go
[12:00] Speaker 2: and he's going to go so hard. He goes ham
[12:03] Speaker 2: every single game. And that's not something I want to.
[12:06] Speaker 3: Be a part of.
[12:07] Speaker 1: I do think it does go. I agree with you.
[12:09] Speaker 1: It's a human nature thing, too. There is something more
[12:11] Speaker 1: embarrassing about for your offense to just get steamrolled and brutalized.
[12:16] Speaker 1: There's something physical about it. Whereas if you're just giving
[12:20] Speaker 1: up a ton of points, you can be like, everyone
[12:23] Speaker 1: does that against the Kyle Shanahan. It wouldn't feel good
[12:25] Speaker 1: to give up 50 points. How much worse do you
[12:29] Speaker 1: think the defense would do if you're calling plays versus
[12:32] Speaker 1: a professional? Um, I think it would, I think it'd
[12:36] Speaker 1: be drastic.
[12:37] Speaker 3: It really would. I'm not, I'm not claiming to be good.
[12:39] Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying the same would be the same
[12:41] Speaker 1: for me. It would be tough.
[12:42] Speaker 2: But the thing with the Brian Flores defense against any
[12:46] Speaker 2: offense is.
[12:47] Speaker 3: Normally with an offense, you're, you're attacking.
[12:51] Speaker 2: You're the one that is like calling the shots and
[12:54] Speaker 2: like kind of dictating the game.
[12:55] Speaker 3: And the defense is like reading and reacting.
[12:58] Speaker 2: Whereas Flores, With a Brian Flores defense, I almost feel
[13:00] Speaker 2: like it's the other way around.
[13:01] Speaker 3: Like they are the attackers.
[13:04] Speaker 1: Great call.
[13:04] Speaker 2: And you are just sort of trying to get around
[13:06] Speaker 2: them and make something work.
[13:08] Speaker 1: We're five games in. But look, they're on a winning
[13:11] Speaker 1: streak that goes back pretty deep into the end of
[13:13] Speaker 1: last season. Yeah. They have much tougher games coming up. Bills,
[13:17] Speaker 1: Niners are on their schedule, for instance. So the numbers
[13:20] Speaker 1: won't stay as crazy, but they do have a chance
[13:21] Speaker 1: to be like an all-time defense. You know where else
[13:25] Speaker 1: you don't want to go against Brian Flores?
[13:26] Speaker 2: Where?
[13:27] Speaker 1: In court. uh, discrimination lawsuits stuff coming up. Yeah. He's
[13:30] Speaker 1: tough against the NFL and multiple teams. This is a
[13:33] Speaker 1: related one. This is just like more of a small
[13:35] Speaker 1: sort of Vegas type prediction. Would you rather right now,
[13:39] Speaker 1: like own a ticket? We're not allowed to do this,
[13:42] Speaker 1: but this is just, okay. You know, is this a trap?
[13:45] Speaker 1: Am I getting fired? I'm just saying, uh, a ticket
[13:48] Speaker 1: holding the Vikings as the NFC North champions at the
[13:52] Speaker 1: end of the season or someone else in the rest
[13:54] Speaker 1: of the division, or you could just have the whole
[13:55] Speaker 1: rest of the division even.
[13:57] Speaker 2: Ooh.
[13:59] Speaker 3: Okay, hold on.
[14:01] Speaker 1: Packers, Lions, and Bears are all two games back. So basically,
[14:05] Speaker 1: what do you think?
[14:06] Speaker 2: I want to look at all of their schedules is
[14:08] Speaker 2: the problem right now. And that feels like I would
[14:10] Speaker 2: like to go into the weeds.
[14:11] Speaker 1: They're similar. They're all in the same division. But the
[14:14] Speaker 1: Vikings schedule is a little bit better. I think they
[14:16] Speaker 1: have a third place schedule.
[14:18] Speaker 2: Really?
[14:19] Speaker 3: Okay.
[14:19] Speaker 1: A little better.
[14:20] Speaker 2: You know what?
[14:21] Speaker 1: Shoot.
[14:21] Speaker 3: I'll take the Vikings.
[14:22] Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. Why not? I was wondering about that. I checked.
[14:25] Speaker 1: They are the favorites right now. Are they? It's not shocking.
[14:29] Speaker 1: They are the favorites in the division. I think if
[14:31] Speaker 1: you got all three other teams, you know, then you
[14:34] Speaker 1: would probably be the favorite. But I feel like we
[14:38] Speaker 1: haven't really thought about like, huh, an improving Kyler Murray. Yeah.
[14:43] Speaker 1: They're doing this skull champ, by the way, in New Orleans,
[14:48] Speaker 1: kneeling out the ball. On the day that they put
[14:52] Speaker 1: Drew Brees' name on the Ring of Honor, it was
[14:55] Speaker 1: an incredible ceremony. You cannot embarrass this organization, Mickey Loomis,
[15:00] Speaker 1: any more than the Saints have the last two weeks.
[15:02] Speaker 2: No.
[15:03] Speaker 1: On the anniversary of the Steve Gleason game to get
[15:06] Speaker 1: blown out by the Falcons, and then you got the
[15:08] Speaker 1: Vikings fans doing this. I'm loving this Vikings team.
[15:12] Speaker 3: They're fun. They're fun to watch, and now I'm looking
[15:15] Speaker 3: at their schedule.
[15:16] Speaker 1: There's some tough games. There are. There are. But they're
[15:20] Speaker 1: off to a good start.
[15:21] Speaker 2: Okay.
[15:21] Speaker 1: All right, you go next.
[15:23] Speaker 3: Would you rather, Greg, inherit... And.
[15:26] Speaker 2: This might be an easy one, but whatever.
[15:30] Speaker 3: Indulge me in it.
[15:31] Speaker 2: Inherit the Chargers, Dolphins, or Titans roster tomorrow, knowing that
[15:36] Speaker 2: you can't make a trade until the offseason.
[15:38] Speaker 1: Do I have the roster in perpetuity, or is it
[15:42] Speaker 1: just for this season? Like, am I now just working
[15:45] Speaker 1: for the team, running the team? I have them in 2027, 28,
[15:48] Speaker 1: or am I just worried about the here and now? No,
[15:50] Speaker 1: you know what?
[15:51] Speaker 3: You have it for all of next season.
[15:53] Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, it's still definitely the Chargers. And you could
[15:55] Speaker 1: make the case now for the Dolphins with this nice...
[15:59] Speaker 1: rookie class yeah and they've got a lot of resources
[16:04] Speaker 1: certainly in terms of draft picks and cap space and
[16:08] Speaker 1: i get it they're kind of in a nice spot
[16:10] Speaker 1: um but ultimately i think the charges just have more
[16:13] Speaker 1: players including justin herbert and we can combine these two
[16:16] Speaker 1: questions because i had herbert as one which is would
[16:19] Speaker 1: you rather justin herbert or three first round picks at
[16:24] Speaker 1: this point in time. Oh, and we get into the
[16:28] Speaker 1: first round picks. Dang, man. Yeah. And this has taken
[16:32] Speaker 1: a little bit. Ben Solak threw this out there. Just like,
[16:34] Speaker 1: what would you trade for Justin Herbert right now? And
[16:37] Speaker 1: the answers were so different. You know, some people are
[16:41] Speaker 1: like a second round pick.
[16:42] Speaker 3: No, that's crazy.
[16:43] Speaker 1: Um, and some people like myself, I would give up
[16:48] Speaker 1: even more than three first round picks. If you would
[16:50] Speaker 1: give it to him. I, I still would rather have
[16:52] Speaker 1: a quarterback. I can almost hear, Eric doesn't like when
[16:55] Speaker 1: we pump up these quarterbacks that have been a little
[16:57] Speaker 1: mediocre over the years, especially CJ Stroud, but maybe Herbert.
[17:01] Speaker 1: I just feel like you've seen a guy produce at
[17:03] Speaker 1: a pretty high level when things are around him. And
[17:05] Speaker 1: that's as good as gold.
[17:07] Speaker 3: So how many first round picks?
[17:09] Speaker 1: Well, I just said three or Herbert. So I'd rather
[17:12] Speaker 1: have Herbert.
[17:13] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[17:15] Speaker 1: It'd take a lot.
[17:15] Speaker 4: Four?
[17:17] Speaker 1: Four plus? I don't know.
[17:18] Speaker 3: It would still go Herbert.
[17:22] Speaker 2: Four, which you could parlay into more if you traded back.
[17:27] Speaker 1: Sure. It really depends on a lot of other X factors,
[17:31] Speaker 1: like who's the team you're trading with and, you know,
[17:34] Speaker 1: what your cap situation is, what your roster is like.
[17:36] Speaker 1: If you're the Dolphins, you know, they don't have Justin Herbert, though.
[17:40] Speaker 1: If you're the Chargers, I'm thinking about it from a
[17:42] Speaker 1: Chargers perspective, and I just wouldn't do it. I will
[17:46] Speaker 1: buy the dip about Justin Herbert, but I got to say,
[17:49] Speaker 1: I never envisioned a scenario where Where we could be
[17:53] Speaker 1: anywhere near here.
[17:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[17:54] Speaker 1: Like five weeks into a season where there's a pretty
[17:57] Speaker 1: strong argument. He's leading the worst offense in the league
[18:00] Speaker 1: and he's the worst quarterback or one of them.
[18:02] Speaker 2: Well, thankfully for him, we've seen him at his best
[18:07] Speaker 2: and we know what he can do. Because otherwise, if
[18:09] Speaker 2: it was just him in this vastness of the Chargers
[18:14] Speaker 2: and they're losing seasons, if we only saw this version
[18:18] Speaker 2: of him, then who knows what would happen to him.
[18:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, I... And it doesn't make sense because, again, on paper,
[18:26] Speaker 1: part of the reason I would take the Chargers. And
[18:27] Speaker 1: I think there is a pretty strong argument for, look,
[18:30] Speaker 1: the Dolphins have a few pieces that they like long
[18:32] Speaker 1: term on the offensive line. Their rookie class does look
[18:36] Speaker 1: really good. You can add some things. The Titans, I
[18:38] Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing. I don't know if I
[18:41] Speaker 1: get the entire organization along with those players. They spent
[18:45] Speaker 1: a lot of money to be this bad. They spent
[18:48] Speaker 1: the most this offseason, basically.
[18:49] Speaker 5: And....
[18:52] Speaker 1: Just last week, I saw again, they like fired a
[18:55] Speaker 1: whole level of like C-suite executives. It's like on the
[18:58] Speaker 1: marketing side and different stuff. But all these VPs, I'm
[19:01] Speaker 1: just like, this is every nine months. So I kind
[19:03] Speaker 1: of want to stay away from there. But when you
[19:04] Speaker 1: think about the Chargers, I mean, Joe Alt, Rashawn Slater,
[19:11] Speaker 1: like those are those should be like in theory, this
[19:15] Speaker 1: should be a good team that you build around.
[19:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. Well, Something has to happen.
[19:22] Speaker 2: At what point, if they continue down this road, like
[19:24] Speaker 2: at what point in the season will there be changes?
[19:28] Speaker 1: I don't think, well, Mike McDaniel could definitely get fired
[19:32] Speaker 1: during the season, I think, if things don't change.
[19:33] Speaker 3: When's their bye week?
[19:34] Speaker 1: Now, the trade deadline's a little later than normal. One
[19:37] Speaker 1: I thought about, didn't know if we were going to
[19:38] Speaker 1: get to, but just as kind of a random one is,
[19:40] Speaker 1: would you rather see Khalil Mack to the Bears or
[19:43] Speaker 1: Derwin James to the Ravens? And that was just bringing
[19:46] Speaker 1: up the idea of like, we're gonna have a little
[19:48] Speaker 1: bit of a fire sale here with the Chargers like
[19:50] Speaker 1: what is there's definitely no point of Khalil Mack on the.
[19:52] Speaker 2: Chargers I like Khalil Mack to the Bears yeah that's.
[19:55] Speaker 1: Fun like a reunion yeah of sorts that's a great
[19:58] Speaker 1: one Derwin James played with Jesse Minner last year I
[20:00] Speaker 1: think that would really hurt Chargers fans Khalil Mack he
[20:03] Speaker 1: likes living in LA. He lives in Beverly Hills. He's
[20:07] Speaker 1: been here a while. He's always decided he might not
[20:09] Speaker 1: want to go anywhere. Uh, cause he, you know, he's
[20:11] Speaker 1: been debating whether he'm going to play football each year,
[20:13] Speaker 1: but he's still playing at a high level. So that,
[20:15] Speaker 1: that's one team be interesting to watch down the stretch. Um,
[20:20] Speaker 1: would you rather live the life of an elite kicker?
[20:24] Speaker 5: Okay.
[20:24] Speaker 1: Okay. Or franchise quarterback?
[20:27] Speaker 2: What kind of franchise quarterback am I? Am I, am
[20:30] Speaker 2: I a Justin Herbert?
[20:31] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[20:33] Speaker 1: OK, mate, you know, going into this year, he would
[20:36] Speaker 1: have been kind of like a mid tier, mid to
[20:38] Speaker 1: upper tier franchise quarterback. Like throw him in with Jordan Love.
[20:41] Speaker 1: You also get the possibility of, you know, some fun extracurriculars.
[20:45] Speaker 1: You know, you're very popular socially with the ladies and whatnot.
[20:49] Speaker 2: Yes.
[20:50] Speaker 1: You're tall, you're handsome. He's particularly smart. He was like
[20:52] Speaker 1: a med student. He says he's going to be a
[20:54] Speaker 1: doctor afterwards. But yeah, it could be anyway. It could
[20:56] Speaker 1: be Jordan Love.
[20:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an upcoming quarterback over kicker.
[21:00] Speaker 3: Every single time.
[21:01] Speaker 2: Okay. Because now I have all of these opportunities for
[21:05] Speaker 2: side endorsements and all of these other ways to make money.
[21:08] Speaker 2: And I feel like you can then parlay it into
[21:12] Speaker 2: a backup quarterback role once your prime is done. And
[21:16] Speaker 2: then backup quarterback roles may be the best job in
[21:19] Speaker 2: the entire NFL.
[21:21] Speaker 1: Okay. Well, so here's where I think this becomes an
[21:23] Speaker 1: interesting question.
[21:25] Speaker 2: Okay.
[21:26] Speaker 1: How much money is enough money? Probably, you know, I
[21:30] Speaker 1: think it's a question we need to be asking as
[21:32] Speaker 1: a society.
[21:32] Speaker 2: Financially independent, like to not have to rely on anyone
[21:38] Speaker 2: for money and be able to live the life that
[21:41] Speaker 2: you want to live.
[21:42] Speaker 1: Okay.
[21:43] Speaker 3: Without worrying about. Okay.
[21:44] Speaker 1: Will Reichardt for now is on like a rookie contract.
[21:46] Speaker 1: He's making a million dollars a year. Great money. But
[21:49] Speaker 1: you know, you're not going to be a football player forever.
[21:51] Speaker 1: You can't, you're not going to retire off just that.
[21:53] Speaker 1: He'll get a nice one after retirement. this contract let's
[21:57] Speaker 1: say Brandon Aubrey's you know yeah what is he making
[21:59] Speaker 1: four or five million dollars a year okay even a
[22:01] Speaker 1: little more okay yeah I think that's pretty good yeah
[22:05] Speaker 1: between him and Spencer Schrader let's say because think how
[22:09] Speaker 1: hard that there's a lot on the quarterbacks right okay
[22:14] Speaker 1: Spencer Schrader Reichardt Reichardt hasn't missed a kick in like
[22:17] Speaker 1: a year and a half I think it's 34 straight
[22:18] Speaker 1: kicks The conditions indoors, it's like... Oh, that's nice. That's nice.
[22:24] Speaker 1: Although it's not always indoors. But you have your one
[22:27] Speaker 1: thing you do. You can only practice so much. Yeah.
[22:30] Speaker 1: When everyone else is doing everything and you're going to
[22:32] Speaker 1: work out and everything, but you can't be kicking too much.
[22:35] Speaker 1: So your job is like considerably easier. You're making a
[22:39] Speaker 1: ton of money. And there is a lot of pressure
[22:42] Speaker 1: on you compared to like the left guard, for instance.
[22:45] Speaker 1: But in this case, you're an elite kicker.
[22:47] Speaker 2: But are you getting... Even if you are so good,
[22:49] Speaker 2: are you... Are you getting the respect?
[22:52] Speaker 1: On this show, you are.
[22:54] Speaker 3: I think so.
[22:54] Speaker 1: In the locker room, like who gets more game balls
[22:56] Speaker 1: than kickers? It's like, it's like the special team or
[22:59] Speaker 1: who makes a great player. It's like, it's very often
[23:01] Speaker 1: the kicker is the hero. I think that's a great life.
[23:04] Speaker 2: And then you have a great life until you have
[23:07] Speaker 2: one missed kick that's in the biggest of spots.
[23:10] Speaker 1: That's tough.
[23:11] Speaker 3: In the playoffs. Maybe it's a chance to go to
[23:14] Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.
[23:15] Speaker 1: Who knows?
[23:15] Speaker 3: And then you miss it.
[23:16] Speaker 1: You're Gary Anderson, the guy who missed it for the Vikings.
[23:19] Speaker 3: And then you live with that for the rest of
[23:20] Speaker 3: your life.
[23:21] Speaker 1: But you know what? That's like every week for a quarterback,
[23:24] Speaker 1: like every week, Jalen hurts is in the middle of
[23:28] Speaker 1: the conversation. And yes, you could be Scott Norwood. That's right.
[23:32] Speaker 1: That's worst case scenario.
[23:34] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[23:35] Speaker 1: Sorry. Um, I know you could be, but think of
[23:38] Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks that are like Jamarcus, right? Like there's
[23:41] Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks that get picked on forever. And
[23:43] Speaker 1: my point is like on a week to week day
[23:45] Speaker 1: to day basis, your job, like How many kickers? Pretty underrated.
[23:49] Speaker 1: I'm saying you're an elite kicker.
[23:51] Speaker 3: How many kickers have statues of them?
[23:55] Speaker 1: Well, the Falcons punter is part of that Steve Gleason statue,
[24:00] Speaker 1: but he's getting the ball blocked. Adam Vinatieri, it does
[24:05] Speaker 1: not have a statue, but he is a Patriots Hall
[24:08] Speaker 1: of Famer and a Hall of Famer, I believe. And
[24:11] Speaker 1: when he returns, he returned this last weekend as part
[24:13] Speaker 1: of the 25th anniversary team, along with the Our old buddy,
[24:18] Speaker 1: Willie McGinnis, they saw out there. Oh, I like that.
[24:21] Speaker 1: And yeah.
[24:23] Speaker 3: I met his dog over the summer, by the way.
[24:25] Speaker 3: Adam Vinataris. He's the cutest dog. In Indianapolis.
[24:29] Speaker 1: Okay.
[24:29] Speaker 3: For a little fun project. You guys will hear about later.
[24:33] Speaker 1: I think I would maybe rather be Spencer Strader. I mean,
[24:36] Speaker 1: it just seems like... Spencer Schrader will.
[24:39] Speaker 3: Give me franchise. OK, I have one for you.
[24:41] Speaker 1: Sounds like a great life.
[24:42] Speaker 2: Would would you rather be forced to sit through a
[24:44] Speaker 2: 90 minute press conference where every single question is about
[24:48] Speaker 2: clock management for 90 minutes or spend an entire offseason
[24:53] Speaker 2: attending NFL officiating seminars?
[24:57] Speaker 3: Well, I don't know how many seminars. Yeah, I don't
[25:00] Speaker 3: know how long the seminars are. In terms of time.
[25:02] Speaker 1: When you say off-season, it's just like a non-stop seminar.
[25:06] Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about this before the show.
[25:08] Speaker 1: We're getting older, Colleen.
[25:10] Speaker 2: We are.
[25:10] Speaker 1: We're getting.
[25:11] Speaker 3: It's like... We're getting tired faster.
[25:15] Speaker 1: We're creeping closer to death. Let's be real. It's that
[25:19] Speaker 1: time in the show. And I'm just thinking about... I
[25:23] Speaker 1: value my off-seasons. We're working hard. We're doing a daily show.
[25:26] Speaker 1: So we're not just exactly kicking the feet up. But... Ultimately,
[25:31] Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about that's time with my family. They're
[25:35] Speaker 1: going to be going to college someday. I'm thinking about
[25:37] Speaker 1: that ticking clock. Time's not a renewable resource. Yeah, exactly.
[25:42] Speaker 1: The 90-minute press conference just sounds better. You can get
[25:45] Speaker 1: it over. Now, if it was just 90 minutes or
[25:47] Speaker 1: even three hours worth of the officiating seminars, I would
[25:51] Speaker 1: be somewhat interested in that.
[25:54] Speaker 3: We're talking every weekend, every off season.
[25:57] Speaker 5: Okay.
[25:58] Speaker 1: That's too much. You know how they do the seminar
[26:03] Speaker 1: for us at NFL media. And it's not just NFL
[26:07] Speaker 1: employees that are in the media. they do this for
[26:09] Speaker 1: the Fox sports people and the ESPN crew, but someone
[26:12] Speaker 1: from the league office does like a presentation of what's
[26:15] Speaker 1: changed this year. There wasn't much to talk about this year.
[26:17] Speaker 1: And they were like, replay assist is going to be
[26:19] Speaker 1: a much bigger deal this year. They really emphasize. And
[26:22] Speaker 1: it has been, I haven't noticed that that's been a thing.
[26:24] Speaker 1: I kind of like those.
[26:25] Speaker 3: That's nice.
[26:26] Speaker 2: Like, but when it's, we've been to some Greg that
[26:30] Speaker 2: are a little mind numbing.
[26:31] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[26:32] Speaker 2: Where we've just gone in circles about what rules are
[26:36] Speaker 2: and the subjectiveness of them and why these are points
[26:40] Speaker 2: of emphasis.
[26:41] Speaker 1: It goes on. You don't want to be the NFL
[26:45] Speaker 1: media employee that will just not stop asking questions. And
[26:49] Speaker 1: you know who I'm talking about. And honestly, if our
[26:52] Speaker 1: listeners thought hard enough about it, they could figure it out, too.
[26:55] Speaker 1: I'm not saying... I'm not saying a damn thing.
[26:58] Speaker 3: But if you have any guesses, send them our.
[27:00] Speaker 1: Way, maybe. Sure. That's incredible.
[27:04] Speaker 2: Okay.
[27:06] Speaker 1: Last one here. All right. All right. You are Colleen Wolfe. Okay, yes.
[27:12] Speaker 1: You are an Eagles fan.
[27:12] Speaker 3: Confirmed.
[27:14] Speaker 1: Would you rather be an Eagles fan for the next
[27:18] Speaker 1: five years or be a fan of a team with
[27:25] Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback that has not gotten over
[27:28] Speaker 1: the hump yet. And I'm thinking of Lamar Jackson and
[27:30] Speaker 1: Josh Allen, specifically Bills and Ravens.
[27:33] Speaker 2: And.
[27:35] Speaker 1: go through that process. Now in this world, like you're not,
[27:38] Speaker 1: it's not Colleen giving up her loyalty, but which do
[27:41] Speaker 1: you think is a better position to be in now
[27:44] Speaker 1: in the, I want to make it clear in this world,
[27:47] Speaker 1: you will have already experienced the joy that you got
[27:51] Speaker 1: to experience two times as a fan of a Superbowl champion.
[27:56] Speaker 1: So you have those memories in your, in your, in
[28:00] Speaker 1: your pocket, but you are at a moment in the,
[28:04] Speaker 1: organization's history where things feel a little bit like on
[28:07] Speaker 1: the precipice and would it be a better experience to
[28:12] Speaker 1: be that team that's now searching for that ring and
[28:16] Speaker 1: seemingly has a much better chance to to get that.
[28:19] Speaker 3: Ring this feels like you're offering.
[28:21] Speaker 2: Me the apple yeah of adam and eve and i'm
[28:25] Speaker 2: not supposed to oh But of course, I'm going to
[28:28] Speaker 2: say I'm going to be with the Eagles, no matter what.
[28:30] Speaker 5: Right.
[28:31] Speaker 3: Okay.
[28:31] Speaker 1: I wish this wasn't even Colleen.
[28:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be cool to experience that. But there's
[28:40] Speaker 2: no way. There's no reality. There's no world where I'm
[28:43] Speaker 2: going and choosing another team.
[28:45] Speaker 1: That I get. It's tricky. I guess what I'm also
[28:49] Speaker 1: saying is, this is more....
[28:54] Speaker 3: Maybe I give up.
[28:55] Speaker 1: This is more philosophical. Would you... It's sort of like
[28:58] Speaker 1: as a fan experience. Mm-hmm. Is it more about like
[29:03] Speaker 1: what's coming next, the hope and the promise of living
[29:08] Speaker 1: in the now and the future? What could be coming next?
[29:12] Speaker 1: Or is your previous experience like all those 49ers fans
[29:16] Speaker 1: who are 35 years old and they're like, hey, we
[29:18] Speaker 1: got five rings. You can't even count our ring Seahawks fans.
[29:21] Speaker 1: And I'm thinking you didn't experience any of that. That's
[29:24] Speaker 1: worth nothing to you. Yeah. you had that experience. So
[29:27] Speaker 1: that was worth something to you, but it's kind of
[29:30] Speaker 1: in the past. And like I said, I know that's fair,
[29:35] Speaker 1: but I guess I'm saying like, as we're getting older here,
[29:38] Speaker 1: it's all about like the experience that you're gone, that
[29:41] Speaker 1: you have and that you're going to have. And so
[29:43] Speaker 1: the better experience, like on paper, like if you got
[29:47] Speaker 1: to experience that again and you had a way better
[29:49] Speaker 1: chance for that, that's, that's intriguing. Would you, so maybe
[29:52] Speaker 1: it's not a way better.
[29:53] Speaker 2: So would I rather have just live on my, the
[29:57] Speaker 2: memories of my past?
[29:59] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[30:00] Speaker 2: With no hope for anything, any future success or not
[30:07] Speaker 2: give those memories back and have, and live with some
[30:11] Speaker 2: hope for the future. I feel like living with hope
[30:13] Speaker 2: for the future would be great.
[30:14] Speaker 1: I wasn't going that drastic because it's the NFL. There's
[30:17] Speaker 1: always hope. And I'm being a little hard on the Eagles, um,
[30:23] Speaker 1: since my friend Alec Allaby left the team, things haven't
[30:25] Speaker 1: really been the same for them. Um, but Howie Roseman
[30:28] Speaker 1: has been a resourceful GM and could figure things out. Yeah.
[30:31] Speaker 2: You know, let's just say it's been a tough, a
[30:34] Speaker 2: tough week and a half for the Eagles organization and
[30:37] Speaker 2: Eagles fans along with it.
[30:38] Speaker 1: You never know. They might still bounce back. That was, um,
[30:41] Speaker 1: that was today's very illuminating segment of, uh, would you
[30:46] Speaker 1: rather let's take a quick break here. We're going to
[30:49] Speaker 1: come back. We're going to do some news and we
[30:50] Speaker 1: are going to preview Thursday night football. Bronco Seahawks. Will
[30:55] Speaker 1: you be awake? At that point, you'll be a little recovered. Yeah,
[30:58] Speaker 1: I'll be fine. Okay, she'll be fine.
[31:01] Speaker 3: Will you be awake? Will you be alive?
[31:14] Speaker 1: Back at NFL Daily, let's start the news with the
[31:19] Speaker 1: aftermath of the mess that was the postgame In Los Angeles.
[31:24] Speaker 1: As Jordan, Rodrigue, and myself were live talking about the game,
[31:30] Speaker 1: Josh Allen was doing an interview with ESPN Deportes, which
[31:35] Speaker 1: I recommend people go find. And while he's doing the interview,
[31:40] Speaker 1: he has a hard time paying attention to the interview
[31:43] Speaker 1: because right behind him, Alaric Jackson and Bradley Chubb are
[31:48] Speaker 1: getting into... a confrontation that ends up with Alaric Jackson,
[31:54] Speaker 1: the left tackle of the Los Angeles Rams throwing a
[31:57] Speaker 1: punch at Bradley Chubb. And it's very strange because the
[32:00] Speaker 1: camera's not on him, but Josh Allen is like looking
[32:03] Speaker 1: back and he's like increasingly bothered by it. And he's
[32:06] Speaker 1: sort of answering the question. He's like, oh man, we,
[32:08] Speaker 1: we gotta get our, you know, we gotta get our
[32:10] Speaker 1: guy away from here. Something's happening back here. Like he
[32:12] Speaker 1: almost wants to leave the interview and, to help to
[32:15] Speaker 1: save the situation. Cause he's that type of guy, but
[32:17] Speaker 1: he does not want to be rude, um, to the
[32:20] Speaker 1: interviewer and, uh.
[32:21] Speaker 3: And Chubb's helmet was off.
[32:23] Speaker 1: Chubb's helmet was off. The punch was thrown. And as
[32:27] Speaker 1: we are taping, we learn that Alaric Jackson is expected
[32:32] Speaker 1: to be suspended for two games for this punch on
[32:38] Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb. There's some context to the length of that suspension,
[32:42] Speaker 1: but you noted that it's very similar to a situation
[32:46] Speaker 1: from a year ago.
[32:47] Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian Branch, pretty much, it feels exactly a year ago.
[32:51] Speaker 2: He got one game for the open hand strike.
[32:56] Speaker 3: To Juju Smith-Schuster's.
[32:57] Speaker 2: Face mask right after the game, and that was upheld
[33:01] Speaker 2: on an appeal. So, Jackson's also feels like it's worst on,
[33:07] Speaker 2: on almost every level too, because it was unprovoked when
[33:10] Speaker 2: you watch it. It seemed like there were some words
[33:12] Speaker 2: that went back and forth, but there were helmets off
[33:16] Speaker 2: pads off all of it. And the Brian branch one,
[33:18] Speaker 2: they were still in their gear.
[33:20] Speaker 1: Yeah. Whether like, however it happened in the end, Jackson's
[33:23] Speaker 1: the one that threw the punch. And so he's going
[33:25] Speaker 1: to get the punishment. Now he's suspended two games instead
[33:28] Speaker 1: of one, uh, for Branch. And I think there is
[33:32] Speaker 1: some context that we talked about this summer on the
[33:35] Speaker 1: show when we thought that Alaric Jackson might be facing
[33:38] Speaker 1: a suspension from the NFL. He had a felony domestic
[33:44] Speaker 1: violence arrest this June. Police said the arrest was for, quote,
[33:49] Speaker 1: willfully inflicting physical or corporal injury resulting in a, quote,
[33:53] Speaker 1: traumatic condition such as a bruise, scratch, swelling or internal
[33:56] Speaker 1: injury on an intimate partner. There was a report from
[34:01] Speaker 1: the LA Times that he entered a diversion program that
[34:03] Speaker 1: required probation. That might not be accurate either way. He
[34:08] Speaker 1: also was suspended by the NFL in 2024 for violating
[34:13] Speaker 1: its personal conduct policy following a lawsuit filed by a
[34:16] Speaker 1: woman who alleged that he recorded her without consent during sex.
[34:21] Speaker 1: These are all horrible... Accusations in the NFL did their
[34:25] Speaker 1: own investigation into that privately. Mike Garofalo reported on NFL
[34:31] Speaker 1: Network on Tuesday that the domestic violence situation related to
[34:36] Speaker 1: Alaric Jackson was potentially still being investigated by the NFL.
[34:41] Speaker 1: And that might just be an open situation. So look,
[34:45] Speaker 1: that's just providing like overall context. This suspension is specifically
[34:49] Speaker 1: for the punch. But I do think in some of
[34:52] Speaker 1: these situations, it would be helpful for the public to
[34:55] Speaker 1: know from the league and the team, like clarity of
[34:58] Speaker 1: what is going on with these sort of cases, because
[35:01] Speaker 1: we're kind of working in the dark of what's happening.
[35:04] Speaker 1: So that's your Alaric Jackson update. We do have a
[35:07] Speaker 1: couple other suspensions, but before we move on from the Rams,
[35:11] Speaker 1: after the game, Sean McVay said that kicking cost them
[35:18] Speaker 1: the game. He was very upset, and then he followed
[35:22] Speaker 1: that up on Tuesday by firing Harrison Mevis, their kicker.
[35:28] Speaker 1: Mavis missed, I think, three kicks so far this season,
[35:32] Speaker 1: but this seems to be a consistent pattern among Rams
[35:35] Speaker 1: kickers and the Rams in general under Sean McVay.
[35:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to go back and check, but I'm
[35:41] Speaker 2: pretty sure this is their fifth kicker in five seasons.
[35:45] Speaker 2: So they just kind of keep going through guys not
[35:48] Speaker 2: having luck there. They signed Blake Groupie off the Jets
[35:51] Speaker 2: practice squad, who.
[35:53] Speaker 3: Just in terms of build is the complete opposite.
[35:59] Speaker 2: So maybe they're just trying to try something completely new there.
[36:03] Speaker 3: But McVay obviously didn't trust McVay. his kicker.
[36:06] Speaker 2: He said so all night after the game. Um, but
[36:09] Speaker 2: it just on third and what was it? Five and overtime.
[36:12] Speaker 2: He just, he trusted him anyway.
[36:14] Speaker 1: And that's, well, he trusted him too much by running
[36:17] Speaker 1: the ball into the line of scrimmage on third and
[36:22] Speaker 1: five and this team. And I know Stafford missed the
[36:24] Speaker 1: throw on second down. So that could have changed things too.
[36:26] Speaker 1: But To me, they got way too conservative. And Sean McVay,
[36:30] Speaker 1: very upset after the game. I'm a little upset for
[36:34] Speaker 1: Mevis because he was a bit of a folk hero
[36:36] Speaker 1: in our house and probably many households. Number 92, had
[36:41] Speaker 1: some fans. My daughter is very upset that Harrison Mevis
[36:44] Speaker 1: is no longer a Los Angeles Ram. He was five
[36:47] Speaker 1: for nine on the season. So I get that part
[36:50] Speaker 1: of it. But I would like to hear a little
[36:54] Speaker 1: bit more from McVay taking some ownership after the game
[36:59] Speaker 1: instead of saying it's on our kicker. Eventually, he did
[37:03] Speaker 1: get there. With the third and five play, was there... Yeah,
[37:05] Speaker 1: you know what? If I would have.
[37:08] Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish I would have had a better play
[37:10] Speaker 4: call and gone for it, got it a lot tighter.
[37:12] Speaker 4: I'm sick right now with myself, and I'm so proud
[37:16] Speaker 4: of that group. This is the tough part of sports,
[37:20] Speaker 4: but I'm proud of that team. I'm proud of the
[37:22] Speaker 4: way that we battled, and I'm sick that we came
[37:24] Speaker 4: up short. I'll be regretting kicking that and not having
[37:29] Speaker 4: a better call to be able to go for it
[37:31] Speaker 4: on third down and go to fourth or whatever it was,
[37:33] Speaker 4: and that's on me.
[37:36] Speaker 2: And they, if you remember last year, they fired their
[37:39] Speaker 2: special teams coordinator mid-season and that was after a loss
[37:43] Speaker 2: to Seattle. This just is sort of a lot of
[37:48] Speaker 2: the same that we're seeing. They're not really getting any
[37:50] Speaker 2: results from the changes that they're making.
[37:52] Speaker 1: No, and it's not just the kicker. It's the punt
[37:57] Speaker 1: coverage and the punt, you know, kick coverage and all
[37:59] Speaker 1: this stuff. Right now, actually, according to FTN, which has
[38:03] Speaker 1: the DVOA stat. They are the worst special teams unit
[38:07] Speaker 1: since they have started recording special teams units in 1979.
[38:10] Speaker 1: Through five weeks. Through five weeks, they are the worst.
[38:14] Speaker 1: And I think that does go to McVay. And they're
[38:18] Speaker 1: just going through it right now. Their schedule over the
[38:20] Speaker 1: next three weeks does ease up quite a bit with
[38:23] Speaker 1: the Cardinals this week to kick off that stretch. And
[38:28] Speaker 1: it sounds like they won't have Alaric Jackson. And this
[38:30] Speaker 1: is a league... that they didn't decide to take any
[38:36] Speaker 1: responsibility for Alaric Jackson's, and this was multiple times that
[38:40] Speaker 1: he has gotten in trouble with the law. This is
[38:41] Speaker 1: a guy that they gave a long-term contract extension to
[38:45] Speaker 1: previous to the most recent incident. But teams can act
[38:49] Speaker 1: on their own. So I also think they do take
[38:52] Speaker 1: responsibility for what they accept and allow. And there is
[38:57] Speaker 1: a sliding scale of these things of how good the
[38:59] Speaker 1: player is and what is... The offense and teams do
[39:02] Speaker 1: have a decision to make. For instance, the Lions at
[39:05] Speaker 1: some point this offseason decided like for Terry and Arnold,
[39:09] Speaker 1: despite him being a first round pick, they decided to
[39:12] Speaker 1: release him. The Rams decided not to do anything with
[39:14] Speaker 1: Alaric Jackson. And then all of this comes up.
[39:18] Speaker 2: It just feels like every January we, if we're asking
[39:23] Speaker 2: what is holding back the Rams from a Super Bowl,
[39:26] Speaker 2: a lot of times we're pointing to something that happened
[39:29] Speaker 2: with Spurs.
[39:30] Speaker 1: Teams. Yeah, special teams. And yeah, in this case, look,
[39:36] Speaker 1: it's self-evaluation. And I'm sure... Look, they'll have a plan
[39:41] Speaker 1: to get through this period and just hope for the best,
[39:44] Speaker 1: because that's what they've done on special teams for a while.
[39:45] Speaker 1: But there are three games now back of the 49ers
[39:48] Speaker 1: who have their own suspension to deal with. Dre Greenlaw
[39:51] Speaker 1: has been suspended for what happened in that game against
[39:56] Speaker 1: the Seahawks, a headbutt on a helmetless Ernest Jones. Dre Greenlaw,
[40:01] Speaker 1: who we haven't talked about much on the show... who
[40:05] Speaker 1: was chirping at Sean Payton after the game last week
[40:08] Speaker 1: against the Broncos, saying, get off the field, get off
[40:11] Speaker 1: the field. I kind of love that. Because he had
[40:13] Speaker 1: a bad experience with Sean Payton. And then immediately, I
[40:16] Speaker 1: think it was Fred Warner as a good teammate, drags
[40:19] Speaker 1: Dre Greenlaw away from that. Dre Greenlaw was just doing
[40:21] Speaker 1: a drive-by yell in that case. He's played really well
[40:24] Speaker 1: for the 49ers. It's something that happens. He's changed, but
[40:27] Speaker 1: he has been suspended for this week's game. And then
[40:30] Speaker 1: the Bears also found out Their best pass rusher, Montez Sweat,
[40:34] Speaker 1: has been suspended for two games for performance-enhancing drugs. We
[40:39] Speaker 1: learned that on Tuesday. That'll be against Atlanta and the Patriots.
[40:44] Speaker 1: So that's all your suspension news for the day.
[40:47] Speaker 2: The thing I was thinking about with Greenlaw is this
[40:51] Speaker 2: is his second one-game suspension, too, in as many seasons.
[40:54] Speaker 2: Because if you remember last year in Denver, he was
[40:57] Speaker 2: suspended for a game for verbally threatening Brad Allen. after
[41:01] Speaker 2: the game, the referee. So third ejection of his career too.
[41:06] Speaker 2: I mean, so this is a, it's not great. It
[41:08] Speaker 2: doesn't help the team.
[41:10] Speaker 1: It does, you know, often tend to be like repeat offenders. Yeah.
[41:14] Speaker 1: Greg Greenlaw is definitely one of those. I saw some
[41:17] Speaker 1: quotes today from Gail Benson. And I just thought they
[41:22] Speaker 1: were just worth throwing into the show. Okay. Very quickly.
[41:25] Speaker 1: I do like to follow the Saints. She was at,
[41:29] Speaker 1: what's called the B & O QB Club Luncheon, which
[41:33] Speaker 1: sounds like a very southern thing. Like that you have
[41:37] Speaker 1: like a luncheon with business people that are maybe kind of.
[41:41] Speaker 5: You know.
[41:42] Speaker 3: It's bougie.
[41:43] Speaker 1: Invested in the team. Very southern. And she had this
[41:46] Speaker 1: to say about the recent struggles of the Saints. Quote,
[41:49] Speaker 1: I will not make excuses and I will not accept
[41:52] Speaker 1: this level of performance as our standard. I am committed
[41:55] Speaker 1: to making the decisions necessary to improve this team. Everyone
[41:58] Speaker 1: in this organization understands the urgency. We must prepare better,
[42:02] Speaker 1: execute consistently, and correct the mistakes that are costing us games.
[42:07] Speaker 1: If you know a little bit about Gail Benson, and
[42:10] Speaker 1: she usually tries to stay out of the spotlight, you
[42:14] Speaker 1: read a little more into this. And what I read
[42:16] Speaker 1: into it, Colleen, is that if the Saints don't win
[42:19] Speaker 1: a game, and they have the Giants this week, and
[42:22] Speaker 1: then we're going to see them in Paris against the Steelers,
[42:24] Speaker 1: if they don't win a game in that stretch, which
[42:26] Speaker 1: is before their bye week, I think Kellen Moore could
[42:29] Speaker 1: be fired.
[42:29] Speaker 3: He's going to stay in Paris.
[42:31] Speaker 1: That could be. Oh, who is who? Yes. Right.
[42:36] Speaker 3: I was just trying.
[42:38] Speaker 1: To Dennis Allen with the Raiders. I think it might
[42:41] Speaker 1: have been Dennis Allen. But yes, some coach once didn't
[42:44] Speaker 1: literally get left overseas. But I think that's interesting that
[42:49] Speaker 1: she said that and said it in such a public
[42:51] Speaker 1: forum that she knew was going to be broadcast in
[42:54] Speaker 1: New Orleans. And it makes me wonder about Mickey Loomis, too.
[42:58] Speaker 1: who has been there for absolute ever. Greater New Orleans
[43:02] Speaker 1: Quarterback Club, though. I wonder what they served. You know
[43:05] Speaker 1: the food is awesome.
[43:06] Speaker 3: Dennis Allen.
[43:07] Speaker 1: It was Dennis Allen.
[43:08] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[43:09] Speaker 2: Shortly after the Raiders lost 38-14 to the Dolphins at Wembley.
[43:14] Speaker 1: Not so old. Don't put me in the retirement home yet.
[43:17] Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
[43:19] Speaker 1: Remembering some things.
[43:20] Speaker 2: Joe Philbin was a day after the Dolphins lost to
[43:24] Speaker 2: the Jets.
[43:24] Speaker 1: Similar. So she also noted how the last two games,
[43:29] Speaker 1: like I mentioned previously in the show, the Falcons and
[43:33] Speaker 1: the Breeze game, how especially disappointing it was and that
[43:36] Speaker 1: it reminded her that they are not holding up the
[43:38] Speaker 1: standards of the organization. So I think Kellen Moore is
[43:42] Speaker 1: in trouble starting now. They need to win. A couple
[43:45] Speaker 1: other quick injury items and we'll get to our TNF preview.
[43:48] Speaker 1: Travion Henderson of the Patriots is going to miss some time.
[43:52] Speaker 1: multiple weeks with a high ankle sprain. They really could
[43:56] Speaker 1: use his explosiveness in the backfield. This is not an
[43:58] Speaker 1: explosive team in terms of their speed. Will Campbell, their
[44:02] Speaker 1: left tackle is also weak to weak with a knee sprain,
[44:07] Speaker 1: same knee that he hurt last year would cost him
[44:10] Speaker 1: to miss a lot of time. And so they might
[44:12] Speaker 1: have their first round pick Caleb Lomu filling in there.
[44:16] Speaker 1: I noted that Ben Johnson was asked about his backup
[44:18] Speaker 1: quarterback situation this week because they benched Tyson Bajan. It
[44:24] Speaker 1: was probably like two in the morning in Paris.
[44:26] Speaker 3: Who knows?
[44:26] Speaker 1: I mean, in London at this time. But they benched
[44:28] Speaker 1: Tyson Bajan, put in Case Keenum, and they were like, well,
[44:31] Speaker 1: who's your backup if Caleb Williams is going to play?
[44:33] Speaker 1: And his answer was, we have three quarterbacks that we
[44:37] Speaker 1: feel confident in.
[44:38] Speaker 2: He does not want to give any info at all
[44:41] Speaker 2: about the quarterback situation.
[44:43] Speaker 3: I feel like why doesn't he just like give it
[44:44] Speaker 3: to Case Keenum?
[44:45] Speaker 2: But they love Tyson Bajet until they bench him.
[44:49] Speaker 1: I read that part of the answer as it would
[44:53] Speaker 1: be Case Keenum. I could be wrong as the backup.
[44:57] Speaker 1: I also believe Caleb Williams has a strong chance to
[45:00] Speaker 1: play as long as he has a good week of practice. Yeah.
[45:02] Speaker 1: The reporting of what he looked like before his last
[45:05] Speaker 1: game was really positive. So I think Caleb Williams could
[45:08] Speaker 1: be returning. for a fun game against Falcons who have
[45:10] Speaker 1: their own quarterback situation to figure out, see if Michael
[45:13] Speaker 1: Penix is healthy. Last injury item was Anton Harrison, the
[45:17] Speaker 1: left tackle of the Jaguars and has been a good
[45:22] Speaker 1: starter for them now for a number of years. We'll
[45:24] Speaker 1: miss multiple weeks, could be three to five weeks, could
[45:26] Speaker 1: be even more after they get in there. and do
[45:28] Speaker 1: the surgery. So that's a big loss for them. Let's
[45:30] Speaker 1: get to that TNF preview. Let's get, let's get Colleen
[45:33] Speaker 1: and out of here. Let's stay for a couple more hours.
[45:35] Speaker 1: Are you driving? Is this safe?
[45:37] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[45:38] Speaker 1: Okay.
[45:38] Speaker 3: I actually went outside before.
[45:40] Speaker 1: You either came here in an Uber or you have
[45:42] Speaker 1: a car.
[45:43] Speaker 2: I went to go get my car this morning for power,
[45:46] Speaker 2: the power ranking show with Nick Shook. And I, Couldn't
[45:49] Speaker 2: find my car on the block. And at first I
[45:51] Speaker 2: was like, did my car get stolen? And then I
[45:53] Speaker 2: remembered that I left my car here last week after
[45:56] Speaker 2: the show because my flight was much earlier than previously thought.
[46:00] Speaker 3: So I will be driving my car.
[46:01] Speaker 1: Now, did you okay that with security and anyone else
[46:05] Speaker 1: or you just left it there?
[46:06] Speaker 3: I okayed it with security.
[46:09] Speaker 2: And I'm hoping that my keys are.
[46:12] Speaker 3: Still with them.
[46:12] Speaker 1: That's some real talent stuff there. I don't know if
[46:15] Speaker 1: I would... be able to pull up. Now it wasn't
[46:17] Speaker 1: planned out, but look, I'd love to leave my car
[46:19] Speaker 1: here for a week and, and come go straight from
[46:21] Speaker 1: our show next week to the airport.
[46:24] Speaker 3: I know a guy.
[46:24] Speaker 1: I don't, I don't want me to take you over
[46:26] Speaker 1: to the booth. I don't think that's going to be allowed. Um,
[46:29] Speaker 1: let's talk Denver. And Seattle. Eric tells me that I
[46:33] Speaker 1: could just leave the car. I thought they don't allow that.
[46:36] Speaker 3: No, you got to ask them.
[46:38] Speaker 1: I know you got to ask.
[46:39] Speaker 2: And then I gave them my keys and they were like,
[46:40] Speaker 2: we cannot take these keys. So I don't know what happened.
[46:43] Speaker 1: What do you think? But I was like, I got
[46:44] Speaker 1: to know. Just because you're riding first class doesn't mean everyone. Listen,
[46:49] Speaker 1: I was going to miss my flight. Can you just
[46:52] Speaker 1: charge it up a little for me too?
[46:54] Speaker 3: I've never charged it here.
[46:55] Speaker 1: All right.
[46:56] Speaker 3: The Cold War game.
[46:58] Speaker 1: I'm using that charger every Sunday. It's incredible.
[47:00] Speaker 3: That's nice.
[47:01] Speaker 1: That's my favorite perk. Seattle, Denver, who played the most
[47:08] Speaker 1: entertaining Super Bowl blowout I've ever witnessed, at least in person. Yeah.
[47:13] Speaker 1: When that ball went over Peyton Manning's head, I was like, oh,
[47:15] Speaker 1: this is going to be a long day. And it was.
[47:18] Speaker 1: And now they're going to try to get revenge. Many
[47:21] Speaker 1: years later, the Seahawks are in Denver. They are two
[47:24] Speaker 1: and a half point favorites. These two teams are both
[47:26] Speaker 1: three and two. Both disappointing in similar ways where their
[47:33] Speaker 1: fan base right now is asking kind of what's up
[47:37] Speaker 1: with the quarterback of each of their teams. I'll let
[47:41] Speaker 1: you take it from there. Which quarterback kind of strikes
[47:43] Speaker 1: your fancy or what do you think?
[47:45] Speaker 2: First, I feel that I should explain why I said
[47:47] Speaker 2: the Cold War game. Because if we're talking about Revenge
[47:51] Speaker 2: for the Super Bowl. My first thought goes to Mike
[47:55] Speaker 2: McDonald and Sean Payton beefing with their tough guy talk because...
[48:03] Speaker 2: of everything that happened back when they first played each other.
[48:06] Speaker 3: That was, uh, I think Bo Nix's first.
[48:09] Speaker 1: It was now 2024. Yeah.
[48:10] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[48:11] Speaker 2: So that was like his first year and Mike McDonald
[48:15] Speaker 2: and the Seahawks used some.
[48:17] Speaker 3: Clever ways to scout by.
[48:20] Speaker 2: Taking some like, you know, videos off of Twitter X
[48:23] Speaker 2: at training camp and then used those, uh, for preparing
[48:27] Speaker 2: for the game. And, uh, Sean Payton did not like
[48:30] Speaker 2: that and took issue with it. And there was a
[48:33] Speaker 2: lot of back and forth about whether or not Mike
[48:35] Speaker 2: McDonald cheated. And so I think they they talked it out.
[48:41] Speaker 2: But this is the first game since. And it's been
[48:43] Speaker 2: apparently a cold war since because each one wanted to
[48:46] Speaker 2: like press the button but didn't press the button. And
[48:49] Speaker 2: so now we get the two of them together and
[48:52] Speaker 2: they're in Denver, which I like even more for this game.
[48:55] Speaker 2: So yes, both teams have questions at the quarterback position.
[48:59] Speaker 2: Obviously with Sam Darnold, the inconsistency that we're seeing with
[49:03] Speaker 2: the offense in general, is that going to be their
[49:06] Speaker 2: great demise? And then with Bo Nix, we're not seeing
[49:10] Speaker 2: anything until late in games when they finally are oppressed
[49:15] Speaker 2: and need to come back. But for me, I think
[49:18] Speaker 2: the biggest story is that Seattle needs to clean up
[49:21] Speaker 2: its mistakes. All of these self-inflicting wounds that they have
[49:25] Speaker 2: on the short week, they lost by three points to
[49:29] Speaker 2: San Francisco and in that game committed four turnovers. The
[49:32] Speaker 2: turnovers are their Achilles heel. They have nine turnovers this season.
[49:37] Speaker 2: They only converted three of 12 third downs.
[49:40] Speaker 3: They allowed five sacks. It was just a mess.
[49:43] Speaker 1: I want to get back to the Cold War.
[49:45] Speaker 2: Okay.
[49:45] Speaker 1: But let's finish with the quarterbacks. Out of 30 quarterbacks
[49:50] Speaker 1: that qualify for ESPN's QBR metric... uh, you know, rating quarterbacks.
[49:56] Speaker 1: Sam Darnold right now is 29th out of 30 and
[49:59] Speaker 1: Bo Nix is 24th. And I was surprised to see
[50:03] Speaker 1: Darnold that low, but he just hasn't played that much.
[50:05] Speaker 1: And he's taking sacks and turning the ball over and
[50:08] Speaker 1: the good plays that he's making to JSN are not
[50:11] Speaker 1: really making up for it. And I just think he's
[50:14] Speaker 1: not playing with a lot of confidence. He's not seeing
[50:17] Speaker 1: the field. He's not seeing open receivers necessarily. And whether it's,
[50:24] Speaker 1: not trusting his guys or not. Like they're just not
[50:28] Speaker 1: getting anything out of anyone except for Jackson Smith and Jigba.
[50:32] Speaker 1: And that can work if your running game is working,
[50:34] Speaker 1: but the running game has been a mess and they're
[50:36] Speaker 1: fumbling all the time. You mentioned the turnovers. A lot
[50:38] Speaker 1: of it is the running backs losing the ball one
[50:41] Speaker 1: after one. I don't think they're going to have Zach
[50:43] Speaker 1: Charbonnet back for this game. I actually think they missed
[50:46] Speaker 1: this guy, Anthony Bradford, their guard who we picked on
[50:51] Speaker 1: last year and opposing defenses picked on like in past protection,
[50:56] Speaker 1: but he's probably their best run blocker. He's been out
[50:58] Speaker 1: for a while and it's just been disjointed in the
[51:01] Speaker 1: Broncos defense for all the troubles that this team has had.
[51:03] Speaker 1: It hasn't really been the defense. They've been good. Maybe
[51:05] Speaker 1: not as great as previous years, but they've been like
[51:08] Speaker 1: a top 10 defense.
[51:09] Speaker 3: That's defensive front.
[51:10] Speaker 2: They can definitely make Seattle feel uncomfortable, especially if like
[51:14] Speaker 2: you're talking about the Seahawks having issues with their run game.
[51:17] Speaker 2: If they can't establish the run, then Sam Darnold, like
[51:20] Speaker 2: you can't expect him to keep trying to rescue possessions
[51:25] Speaker 2: after all of these negative plays and turnovers and Seattle's
[51:28] Speaker 2: backup running backs, Emmanuel Wilson and George Holani averaged just
[51:33] Speaker 2: 2.8 yards per carry combined against the Niners. They both
[51:37] Speaker 2: lost fumbles in that game too. So I do just
[51:42] Speaker 2: wonder if they're, Offensive inconsistency is going to be the
[51:45] Speaker 2: thing that kind of keeps them from prevents them from
[51:49] Speaker 2: keeping pace with San Francisco in the division and just
[51:53] Speaker 2: in the NFC in general.
[51:55] Speaker 1: It's too bad losses for them that they probably felt
[51:58] Speaker 1: like they should have won. They set up the 49ers
[52:00] Speaker 1: on a short field a bunch of times, but the
[52:04] Speaker 1: offensive struggles are I think are deeper than that. Cause
[52:07] Speaker 1: the 49ers aren't some world beating defense. They're well coached
[52:12] Speaker 1: and they present problems for you. But actually I think like,
[52:14] Speaker 1: if you look at the rushing success rate and the
[52:16] Speaker 1: passing success rate, like the 49ers were the better team
[52:18] Speaker 1: in that game. It wasn't just turnover. So yeah, Sam
[52:21] Speaker 1: Darnold needs to clean it up. five interceptions and eight
[52:24] Speaker 1: sacks in the last three weeks. That said, I do
[52:26] Speaker 1: think the Seahawks defense is plain to type. They, other
[52:31] Speaker 1: than Minnesota, who we've given a lot of love to,
[52:33] Speaker 1: they are the best defense in the league this year.
[52:36] Speaker 1: And so I think it's a bigger mismatch. Bo Nix
[52:38] Speaker 1: right now is not the same guy. He is giving
[52:40] Speaker 1: you zero rushing value right now. Used to be a
[52:43] Speaker 1: very good scrambler. And so that's something where he had
[52:46] Speaker 1: two surgeries this off season and he looks healthy out there.
[52:50] Speaker 1: but he hasn't been playing with the same sort of
[52:53] Speaker 1: confidence or showing his mobility. So that's a major problem.
[52:57] Speaker 1: He's fumbled the ball five times. Here's a combination of
[53:01] Speaker 1: advanced stats that do not bode well. There's a stat
[53:04] Speaker 1: called on target rate.
[53:05] Speaker 2: Okay.
[53:06] Speaker 1: Basically is an accurate throw on top of like, you know,
[53:09] Speaker 1: completion percentage. He's 20% lower than he was the last
[53:13] Speaker 1: two years, which would basically take you from one of
[53:16] Speaker 1: the most accurate quarterbacks in the league to one of,
[53:18] Speaker 1: if not the most least accurate quarterback in the league.
[53:21] Speaker 1: And then on top of that, he's throwing the ball
[53:24] Speaker 1: way shorter. on average, like one of the, in terms
[53:27] Speaker 1: of average depth of target. So he used to go
[53:29] Speaker 1: down the field more with more accuracy. Now he's throwing
[53:32] Speaker 1: it shorter with less accuracy. And you got to play
[53:36] Speaker 1: this Seattle defense, which I know gave up a couple
[53:38] Speaker 1: of plays, but those are on short fields and, and
[53:40] Speaker 1: Byron Murphy and Lenny Williams and Witherspoon and Eamon worry.
[53:44] Speaker 1: It's healthy. Like if you are a Bo Nix hater
[53:47] Speaker 1: and there are, there are some out there in the media,
[53:50] Speaker 1: I will say. This could be a good Thursday night
[53:52] Speaker 1: game for you.
[53:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, the Seahawks defense, they've allowed just 150 passing yards
[53:57] Speaker 2: per game. They're forcing 11 turnovers. And I think that
[54:03] Speaker 2: some teams have found a little bit of success running
[54:06] Speaker 2: the ball on them. So if Sean Payton can somehow
[54:11] Speaker 2: get J.K. Dobbins and R.J. Harvey to take some pressure
[54:14] Speaker 2: off of Bo Nix, that would help the situation. But
[54:18] Speaker 2: the Seahawks defense is Fantastic. The Denver defense is good,
[54:23] Speaker 2: but they're hurt right now. They're really banged up. They
[54:26] Speaker 2: were missing both starting corners against the Chargers and safety
[54:31] Speaker 2: Talanoa Hufanga. His status is also a little cloudy. He's
[54:35] Speaker 2: dealing with an ankle injury. And so you have a
[54:38] Speaker 2: huge vulnerability there potentially for JSN. to exploit if Sam
[54:44] Speaker 2: Darnold can kind of get it together. But JSN is
[54:46] Speaker 2: also dealing with his own ankle injuries too. And it's
[54:48] Speaker 2: a short week.
[54:48] Speaker 1: Yeah. He, he got banged up late in that game.
[54:51] Speaker 1: So that's something to watch. Glad you pointed out those injuries.
[54:53] Speaker 1: Patrick Sertan, the defense player that you're probably out for
[54:56] Speaker 1: this game has not practiced in the fake estimated practice
[55:00] Speaker 1: reports early in the week. It does sound like Riley
[55:02] Speaker 1: Moss could return. So they might get one of their starters. Yeah,
[55:06] Speaker 1: to me, it's just a question of can Denver's defense
[55:08] Speaker 1: be dominant enough to really hold Seattle down? I don't
[55:13] Speaker 1: think they've been as good this year. They've just been good,
[55:16] Speaker 1: but they have the talent to do so. Zach Allen
[55:19] Speaker 1: and company Nick Benito up front. We will see.
[55:22] Speaker 3: We got orange crush jerseys too.
[55:23] Speaker 1: That's cool. I like that.
[55:25] Speaker 2: And I think Seattle is going to be doing their
[55:27] Speaker 2: like royal blue ones. I think it's going to be
[55:29] Speaker 2: just a full throwback game.
[55:30] Speaker 1: That is a great uniform. Shout out to Dave Damoshek,
[55:34] Speaker 1: who I'm sure is tracking this.
[55:35] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[55:36] Speaker 1: I still like the Seahawks in this game, but short
[55:38] Speaker 1: week in Denver. That's tough. Yeah. You had a tough.
[55:42] Speaker 1: This is a tough one. And you did great. Real
[55:45] Speaker 1: short week. You did great. I was highly entertained. Let's
[55:49] Speaker 1: hit that music. Let's get out of here. Let's talk about.
[55:53] Speaker 1: what we'll do next in the podcast studio. We'll have
[55:56] Speaker 1: you come in for an extra show this week. No,
[55:58] Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. We're going to be part of our
[56:00] Speaker 1: preview show next week. But this week it's me and
[56:03] Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrigue going through all the games. We have four
[56:06] Speaker 1: teams on by this week. That'll be next. In the meantime, Colleen,
[56:10] Speaker 1: get some sleep. Later.

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