# Jeffery Simmons Gets Paid and Unsolved NFL Mysteries

An episode of [NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/680904259), 23 Jun 2026, 49 min.

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Patrick Claybon and Nick Shook react to the Titans giving Jeffery Simmons a contract extension and then try and solve some of the NFL's unsolved mysteries around the 49ers, Aaron Donald, Jahmyr Gibbs and Bijan Robinson, Bryce Young, Malik Willis and more! NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: Well in the NFL Daily Patrick Claybourne here in the
[0:08] Speaker 1: Chris Westling podcast studio, all alone, because our fearless leader,
[0:14] Speaker 1: fresh off of Father's Day, the show Dad, Greg Rosenthal
[0:17] Speaker 1: is taking a much deserved vacation. So it is myself
[0:20] Speaker 1: and Nick Shook in his streaming venue at his home
[0:24] Speaker 1: in his casa right here, Shook, what's up man?
[0:27] Speaker 2: I love that you called Greg the show dad. That's fantastic.
[0:30] Speaker 2: I never thought about it like that, but you're right.
[0:32] Speaker 2: Father's Day.
[0:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, Happy belated to Father's Day to our show dad,
[0:36] Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. Who if you're listening to this Greg on
[0:39] Speaker 1: your vacation, don't like stop step away from the football
[0:44] Speaker 1: where the football tender is cutting off Greg Rosenthal because
[0:47] Speaker 1: he frankly needs to be and shog. This time of
[0:51] Speaker 1: year can be won where there's slight news. But we
[0:55] Speaker 1: did get a little bit of news today that we
[0:57] Speaker 1: can share with the people. Congratulations to Jeffrey Simmons over
[1:01] Speaker 1: the weekend signing a deal that his agent would like
[1:03] Speaker 1: everybody to know. Shook is the biggest deal in NFL
[1:07] Speaker 1: history for a defensive tackle three years, up to one
[1:10] Speaker 1: hundred and five million dollars one hundred million of that guaranteed.
[1:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's tacking on to a deal that already
[1:18] Speaker 2: you know, it was still existing, had a couple more
[1:19] Speaker 2: years left to it.
[1:20] Speaker 3: So it's it's well deserved, well.
[1:22] Speaker 2: Earned on the part of Jeffrey Simmons, a player who
[1:24] Speaker 2: I think is routinely overlooked, not overrated, but overlooked, pretty
[1:29] Speaker 2: underrated unless you spend a lot of time paying attention
[1:31] Speaker 2: to the Tennessee Titans, which if you haven't over the
[1:33] Speaker 2: last few years, I understand why. But if you want to,
[1:35] Speaker 2: you know, try to understand exactly why he got this money,
[1:38] Speaker 2: and you go look at his stats and you say, well,
[1:39] Speaker 2: you know, he didn't make his first All Pro team
[1:41] Speaker 2: until this year. That was overdue. All you got to
[1:44] Speaker 2: do is cut on the tape play by play. Few
[1:46] Speaker 2: players make more of an impact on a defense than
[1:49] Speaker 2: Jeffrey Simmons does. He's just a relentless, game wrecking type
[1:52] Speaker 2: of player who makes everybody around him better. And I
[1:54] Speaker 2: know sounds kind of crazy coming from a defensive tackle,
[1:57] Speaker 2: but I'm telling you right now, you watch him, He's
[1:58] Speaker 2: one of my favorite players to watch a weekly basis.
[2:00] Speaker 2: You can find him on the tape wherever because he's
[2:02] Speaker 2: usually wearing those that red sleeve or something, and if
[2:05] Speaker 2: you don't see the red sleeve, you're just gonna see
[2:06] Speaker 2: the hulking mass that is Jeffrey Simmons causing problems for
[2:09] Speaker 2: opposing offenses. So definitely a deserved contract and congratulations Dan.
[2:13] Speaker 1: Also those moments in Jeffery Simmons career where he's caused
[2:16] Speaker 1: problems for opposing defenses as well, just a pure playmaker.
[2:21] Speaker 1: Where again we're in this situation. The Tennessee Titans had
[2:25] Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. They had the number one
[2:26] Speaker 1: overall pick. We did not discuss cam Ward and as
[2:29] Speaker 1: I say we collectively as a football media apparatus, he
[2:33] Speaker 1: has an entire rookie season, a lot of it's great,
[2:35] Speaker 1: he has multiple Thrower of the Year candidates, and the
[2:40] Speaker 1: Nashville of it all kind of gets lost. But shout
[2:42] Speaker 1: out to the Tennessee Titans, shout out to Jeffrey Simmons.
[2:46] Speaker 1: A fun team where we get to see what the
[2:49] Speaker 1: day ball and Giants' influence is going to be, what
[2:52] Speaker 1: the influence of Bob Sola's belief all seed oils is
[2:55] Speaker 1: ultimately going to be. It's a fun off season with
[2:59] Speaker 1: sprinkled in with some udo science. Are excited shook for
[3:02] Speaker 1: just what the Titans are going to do here in
[3:04] Speaker 1: twenty twenty six.
[3:05] Speaker 2: Look as somebody who has transitioned to using avocado oil
[3:08] Speaker 2: when I cook, I can get on.
[3:10] Speaker 3: Board with this.
[3:10] Speaker 2: I also like the fact that that Jeffery Simmons fits
[3:13] Speaker 2: the solid mold when it comes to building his defense.
[3:15] Speaker 2: He's always got a game wrecking defensive tackle. It was
[3:17] Speaker 2: either Quinn Williams. It was back in the day, it
[3:19] Speaker 2: was Deforce Buckner with the forty nine ers. After that
[3:21] Speaker 2: it was Eric Armstead. Now it's Jeffrey Simmons. So it
[3:24] Speaker 2: makes a ton of sense. Look, you're right, there's a
[3:26] Speaker 2: lot of intrigue with this Titans team because of the
[3:28] Speaker 2: new staff, because of the change and the defensive identity,
[3:31] Speaker 2: and also because of cam Ward. Oh and then by
[3:33] Speaker 2: the way, they just decided, you know, to listen to
[3:35] Speaker 2: the claims from Houston about them wanting the Oilers colors back,
[3:38] Speaker 2: and they're like, no, those are ours, and in fact,
[3:39] Speaker 2: we're going to go all in and just change our
[3:41] Speaker 2: uniforms to straight Oilers colors and just kind of.
[3:43] Speaker 3: Thumb our nose at you.
[3:44] Speaker 2: So Titans on the revenge path with some big money
[3:47] Speaker 2: to the defensive tackle.
[3:48] Speaker 1: Yeah. And also there's there's fossil fuels there in the
[3:52] Speaker 1: in the Tennessee Mountains, there's there's access to why not
[3:56] Speaker 1: just just go ahead and do the whole thing we
[3:59] Speaker 1: all enjoy Yeah, alliteration. But at a certain point, if
[4:03] Speaker 1: you're gonna keepumbing your notes that the people, the people
[4:05] Speaker 1: in Texas, just just go ahead and put that Derek
[4:08] Speaker 1: on the helmets and bring the whole thing back, if
[4:11] Speaker 1: you know, because because the Derek in the helmet you
[4:13] Speaker 1: decided to let go and he's playing it ball the
[4:15] Speaker 1: fort and they enjoy him.
[4:15] Speaker 2: Ooh, Now that that is why you are a top
[4:18] Speaker 2: tier host right there.
[4:19] Speaker 1: Stop stop it. Speaking of top tier, I like music.
[4:25] Speaker 1: I set out with a task almost every show. Any
[4:29] Speaker 1: idea involves me having Eric make something. He went shook
[4:33] Speaker 1: above and beyond uh with our idea here for NFL
[4:38] Speaker 1: Unsolved off season mysteries. Because those of us born in
[4:42] Speaker 1: the eighties in the nineties remember Robert Flack in a
[4:47] Speaker 1: trench coat standing for some reason in the rain talking
[4:50] Speaker 1: about Unsolved. And there's a lot of questions that we
[4:53] Speaker 1: have here in the off season that are frankly unsolved mysteries.
[4:57] Speaker 1: And so we have collectively assembled these unsolved mysteries, and
[5:02] Speaker 1: I will go first show with mine to it unsolved
[5:06] Speaker 1: mystery some you know, because we have questions that need answer.
[5:13] Speaker 1: On a quiet June Monday morning, near an office park
[5:16] Speaker 1: in Santa Clara, an aging roster takes mini camp off
[5:19] Speaker 1: as there's no reason to do it also while avoiding
[5:22] Speaker 1: to pay. Brandon Ayuk, a cap expert, walks through the
[5:25] Speaker 1: copy room and prints a piece of paper. He navigates
[5:28] Speaker 1: the walls of the em shielded complex to the wall
[5:31] Speaker 1: in his office and ties a thread to a new
[5:34] Speaker 1: piece of paper, attaching it to the wall, all adding
[5:37] Speaker 1: up to a question, seventy one million dollars in cap space.
[5:42] Speaker 1: The camera pulls out reveal what the thread spells. Why,
[5:47] Speaker 1: Nick Shuk, why does a team and win now mode
[5:51] Speaker 1: in a very competitive division in June have seventy one
[5:55] Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space?
[5:57] Speaker 2: With all due respect to the great Pepe Sylvia Conspiracy
[6:01] Speaker 2: from Always Sunny in Philadelphia, this one is absolutely mystifying.
[6:05] Speaker 2: Why do they have all of this cap space? Why
[6:07] Speaker 2: are they still you know, sitting on all of this
[6:10] Speaker 2: money when they could you know, make their team better.
[6:12] Speaker 2: And the first thing I could think of, and this
[6:14] Speaker 2: is gonna sound crazy, is just the fact that you
[6:16] Speaker 2: can roll that cap space over next year, So why
[6:18] Speaker 2: not have enough you know, cap space available right now.
[6:21] Speaker 2: It also makes me wonder why have they not moved
[6:25] Speaker 2: on from the whole brandon Au situation. Are they going
[6:28] Speaker 2: to sit on this situation and wait for somebody to
[6:31] Speaker 2: make a call that they're never going to call to
[6:32] Speaker 2: try to acquire him?
[6:34] Speaker 3: What is going on?
[6:35] Speaker 2: Is the electromagnetic impact on the practice field a real
[6:39] Speaker 2: thing or not? Yeah, this is actually, honestly outside of
[6:41] Speaker 2: the you know, the idea of making you know, leaving
[6:43] Speaker 2: room for rollover cap and just kind of building on
[6:45] Speaker 2: your riches going forward kind of doesn't make a lot
[6:47] Speaker 2: of sense other than the fact that, like the way
[6:49] Speaker 2: that they've constructed their roster over the last few years,
[6:51] Speaker 2: they've they've hit on some of their draft picks and
[6:53] Speaker 2: they've been a team that's you know, not afraid to
[6:55] Speaker 2: pay certain guys let other guys go. I mean, I
[6:58] Speaker 2: think about like the Ricky piersoll of it all. It's like, well,
[7:00] Speaker 2: you know, receiver wise, we wint got Mike Evans, this year,
[7:02] Speaker 2: but we also had Peers all there and he was
[7:04] Speaker 2: going to be probably going to be our number one,
[7:06] Speaker 2: you know going into this year. If they hadn't signed
[7:08] Speaker 2: Mike Evans, they let Juwan Jennings go. It's just a
[7:10] Speaker 2: team that I think consistently kind of turns over it's
[7:12] Speaker 2: cap and roster and tries to stay as you know,
[7:15] Speaker 2: competitive as possible. I'm just worried about injuries more than anything.
[7:17] Speaker 2: But this is still cap space wise a mystery to me.
[7:20] Speaker 3: So what do you have? What answer do you have
[7:22] Speaker 3: as you wear your trench coat.
[7:23] Speaker 1: In the rain? Well, I honestly think about the overall
[7:27] Speaker 1: questions for the strategy because when you can roll over things,
[7:31] Speaker 1: and they have rolled over a lot of cap space
[7:32] Speaker 1: in the past, and they use it to do things
[7:35] Speaker 1: like fix that Trent Williams contract. But eventually the foundation
[7:38] Speaker 1: of your team, which is aging superstars like Trent, like CMC,
[7:42] Speaker 1: like Kyle Huschek, You've already paid brock Party. Eventually, it's
[7:46] Speaker 1: like the delay in dynasty drafting and fantasy football. Eventually
[7:51] Speaker 1: you would like to have a team that particular season
[7:54] Speaker 1: that is making the quest and not to diminish the
[7:57] Speaker 1: efforts that they've done to build this particular football team,
[8:00] Speaker 1: and Mike Evans, I think is a great addition, but
[8:02] Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that they could still do
[8:05] Speaker 1: and I think it would be a big time miss.
[8:07] Speaker 1: Now you spoke about Brandon Ayuk, and I think that's
[8:09] Speaker 1: a wonderful question that I would also like to ask,
[8:12] Speaker 1: because you go back to twenty twenty five, because you
[8:14] Speaker 1: want folks to play along and have great relationships. Taking
[8:18] Speaker 1: twenty seven million dollars from someone, albeit may not be
[8:21] Speaker 1: the best way to maintain lines of communication. And I
[8:24] Speaker 1: would like to know when they initially decided that taking
[8:29] Speaker 1: that guaranteed money, which why did we call it guaranteed?
[8:32] Speaker 1: I have no idea, but taking that guaranteed money from
[8:35] Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk, at what point was that communicated to him
[8:39] Speaker 1: in that process and decision making? And when did the
[8:41] Speaker 1: forty nine ers decide that they would have liked out
[8:43] Speaker 1: of that contract and could maybe submarining that relationship be
[8:48] Speaker 1: a method towards doing that, But it saved a ton
[8:50] Speaker 1: of money. I just I hope that the forty nine
[8:53] Speaker 1: ers have a plan to use it because there's a
[8:55] Speaker 1: lot of people that like the forty nine ers and
[8:56] Speaker 1: they would like to see them be successful.
[8:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, and you know, maybe some of that
[9:00] Speaker 2: space is reserved for dealing with the fallout that comes
[9:03] Speaker 2: from this eventually. I'm not sure, but that, like the
[9:06] Speaker 2: IYUK situation itself, is such a great mystery now, Like
[9:09] Speaker 2: if you look at you know, their current situation, like
[9:11] Speaker 2: a post June first cap cut which we're now at
[9:14] Speaker 2: June twenty second, is only going to cost them seven
[9:16] Speaker 2: point three million dollars this year. Because it's the post juniversity,
[9:19] Speaker 2: he can split it over multiple years, right, so it's
[9:21] Speaker 2: not like they're putting away a ton of money for that.
[9:22] Speaker 2: But the greater mystery is just like what happened? And
[9:24] Speaker 2: I think this is something that even they can't understand
[9:27] Speaker 2: as of this point. And I can solve one thing,
[9:29] Speaker 2: which is that at what point did they decide that they,
[9:32] Speaker 2: you know, wanted to submarine that relationship, Probably when, as
[9:35] Speaker 2: they said, he stopped showing up, you know, for rehab
[9:37] Speaker 2: and everything else. And that's their account on this whole thing.
[9:41] Speaker 2: We'll probably never know for quite some time. But until then,
[9:43] Speaker 2: it's just one of those lingering things that it's like,
[9:46] Speaker 2: why can't we solve this already?
[9:47] Speaker 3: But then again, that's why this is Unsolved Mysteries.
[9:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, the biggest issue was the devastating knee injury that
[9:53] Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk Cornder went And much like a lot of
[9:57] Speaker 1: discussion around AJ Brown in Philadelphia was about his relationships
[10:00] Speaker 1: and all these other things, there's really opportunity for the
[10:03] Speaker 1: Eagles to get exactly what they spent in value to
[10:05] Speaker 1: acquire AJ Brown in return for AJ Brown going to
[10:09] Speaker 1: the Patriots. It's so like there's a lot of other
[10:11] Speaker 1: stuff how that comes in. But the team being able
[10:14] Speaker 1: to kind of get out of a deal that they
[10:16] Speaker 1: didn't necessarily want to be in in the first place,
[10:19] Speaker 1: I think leans heavily into that. So we'll leave that
[10:22] Speaker 1: up to the mystery solvers in Santa Clair. They broke
[10:24] Speaker 1: down em radiation so they'll be able to get to
[10:29] Speaker 1: the bottle of this.
[10:30] Speaker 2: I mean, look, one way or another, it's a win
[10:32] Speaker 2: for science, right, run that music europe Ship all Right,
[10:37] Speaker 2: here we go. So I want to tell you first,
[10:40] Speaker 2: I actually pulled up an all episode of Unsolved Mysteries
[10:42] Speaker 2: because I wanted to get fully into character.
[10:44] Speaker 3: Here's my best.
[10:45] Speaker 2: Robert Stack, a legendary defender, disappeared from the game nearly
[10:50] Speaker 2: three years ago, but rumors of his return have picked
[10:53] Speaker 2: up in recent weeks. A new hero, zach Master Miles Garrett,
[10:58] Speaker 2: has arrived in Los Angeles, potential lighting the beacons for
[11:01] Speaker 2: Aaron Donald to ride back into town.
[11:04] Speaker 3: Would this icon find the spark to.
[11:06] Speaker 2: Light his fire and form the most fearsome duo in football?
[11:12] Speaker 3: Tonight on Unsolved Mysteries.
[11:16] Speaker 1: Perfect, I see stack, I see the crane shots back
[11:20] Speaker 1: when you know cable I mean free oh, the over
[11:24] Speaker 1: the air television used to spend money on serialized TV shows,
[11:28] Speaker 1: even even like reenactment shows like this. It's perfect. It
[11:33] Speaker 1: sets the mood.
[11:34] Speaker 2: It sets me by the way the production efforts that
[11:37] Speaker 2: they went to to reenact these things are insane, Like
[11:39] Speaker 2: just watch it.
[11:40] Speaker 3: I was like, my god.
[11:41] Speaker 2: They filmed them going to the cemetery and exooming this
[11:43] Speaker 2: body three times.
[11:45] Speaker 3: What's going on?
[11:46] Speaker 1: And there were multiple takes. It's not like now where
[11:48] Speaker 1: it's just like I'll leave it in, you know, we'll
[11:50] Speaker 1: fix it and post like you could tell there was
[11:52] Speaker 1: care and energy because we used to be you know,
[11:56] Speaker 1: a proper place.
[11:57] Speaker 3: Hi.
[11:58] Speaker 1: We used to shook this. This one. This one's tough
[12:01] Speaker 1: for me because I think Aaron loves to have fun.
[12:05] Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think he wants to squash this,
[12:08] Speaker 1: and I think it will remain unsolved until there's this
[12:12] Speaker 1: inflection point late in the season where it's like, guys,
[12:16] Speaker 1: even even with Miles Garrett and Braden Fisk, like even
[12:19] Speaker 1: with the way this defense is murdering people right now,
[12:23] Speaker 1: they can't rush the passer and they put that signal
[12:25] Speaker 1: up in the sky, like I think it's gonna take that.
[12:29] Speaker 1: It's just tough for me to see Aaron Donald saying
[12:32] Speaker 1: before the football season, like driving around and is Lambeau
[12:36] Speaker 1: over there on the west side that like, yeah, I
[12:39] Speaker 1: want to I want to put my body through that,
[12:41] Speaker 1: Like his body's looking great and feeling great right now.
[12:43] Speaker 1: It's just tough for me to imagine.
[12:45] Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because you know, you mentioned that he
[12:47] Speaker 2: likes to have fun. I think he likes to have
[12:48] Speaker 2: fun with all of us by just like kind of
[12:50] Speaker 2: flirting with the idea of coming back, by posting Instagram
[12:52] Speaker 2: captains and just say like always ready or something along
[12:55] Speaker 2: those lines, By having Jared Verse come work out with
[12:57] Speaker 2: him and then putting him through hell just to like
[12:59] Speaker 2: send them Is that, yeah, I'm still demand even though
[13:01] Speaker 2: I'm retired, I'm still the man. But I also think
[13:04] Speaker 2: that he would find a lot of fun in being
[13:07] Speaker 2: with the Rams. It's just a matter of win, and
[13:09] Speaker 2: I think your inflection point example really works well. But
[13:11] Speaker 2: I also see a situation in which the momentum builds
[13:14] Speaker 2: for this team, Like I'm getting a if. I hate
[13:17] Speaker 2: to say it, but if Sports Illustrated covers really carried
[13:19] Speaker 2: the same weight that they used to the Rams are
[13:21] Speaker 2: on it with Super Bowl, you know, dreams and aspirations,
[13:24] Speaker 2: and he sees that that's not like around the start
[13:27] Speaker 2: of training camp, that's their season, pree edition or whatever, right,
[13:30] Speaker 2: And then they go through training camp and then we
[13:31] Speaker 2: get the Michael Strahan approach, which is that like I'm
[13:33] Speaker 2: just gonna wait until the end of camp and then
[13:35] Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back.
[13:36] Speaker 3: And I think this is a guy who could totally
[13:38] Speaker 3: do it.
[13:39] Speaker 2: It's just a matter of if he hasn't played football
[13:40] Speaker 2: since twenty twenty three, does he want to do it.
[13:43] Speaker 2: We all probably felt like he retired a little bit early.
[13:45] Speaker 2: I mean, there was a period where he almost could
[13:47] Speaker 2: have retired right after winning the Super Bowl, But what
[13:49] Speaker 2: better time for you to come back and give it
[13:51] Speaker 2: one more shot or at least test the will, like
[13:53] Speaker 2: you said, gotta find the fire to play again. Then
[13:56] Speaker 2: with this team right now when they are clearly all
[13:58] Speaker 2: in and they are dealing with the onto two year
[14:00] Speaker 2: window of trying to go after a Super Bowl because
[14:02] Speaker 2: of you know where Matthew Stafford is right now. I
[14:04] Speaker 2: just think that the the addition of Miles Garrett made
[14:06] Speaker 2: a lot of sense for you know, people thinking like, oh,
[14:08] Speaker 2: is he gonna undertire? And I think it's a fun
[14:10] Speaker 2: thing for us to talk about, But I also believe
[14:12] Speaker 2: that there is some legit smoke to this fire, and
[14:15] Speaker 2: we're not gonna see it really solved or resolved until
[14:19] Speaker 2: late August at the earliest.
[14:21] Speaker 1: Yeah. You mentioned his Instagram and I'm looking at it
[14:23] Speaker 1: right now. He's on this shopping trip with his daughters.
[14:26] Speaker 1: It's sponsored, uh, you know, by by a brand that
[14:30] Speaker 1: producers clothing. You know, I gotta be extra safe with
[14:32] Speaker 1: branding and sugar. We don't even know how. Yeah, And
[14:35] Speaker 1: so the comments, every single one of the comments is like, yeah,
[14:40] Speaker 1: you know your daughter's everything's going great? Is she gonna
[14:43] Speaker 1: get a Rams jersey?
[14:45] Speaker 2: Like?
[14:45] Speaker 1: Uh, y'all are Hey, love this, whisper to your dad,
[14:49] Speaker 1: I wont another super Bowl. It's there's a lot of
[14:53] Speaker 1: energy and attention that gets devoted, uh to this. And
[14:57] Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, back in the day also May,
[15:00] Speaker 1: when Unsolved Mysteries was on the air, when that Sports
[15:02] Speaker 1: Illustrated cover meant something, I think we yeah, again, we
[15:07] Speaker 1: built to that point where we get like a ten
[15:09] Speaker 1: and oer team, and there's questions floating about like could
[15:13] Speaker 1: the Rams do this and then go unbeaten? Like it
[15:15] Speaker 1: takes that drum beat and the you know, we saw
[15:18] Speaker 1: the drum beat in New York that the Knicks got
[15:20] Speaker 1: to a championship. If if the Rams are pushing towards history,
[15:24] Speaker 1: then I think you've got a more viable case for
[15:27] Speaker 1: Aaron Donald to go back in that building over there
[15:29] Speaker 1: and win another Super Bowl.
[15:30] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[15:30] Speaker 2: And you know, I like that idea because I feel
[15:32] Speaker 2: like this was something that I don't know, maybe this
[15:35] Speaker 2: is just like nostalgia kicking in here, but I feel
[15:37] Speaker 2: like when Peyton Manning and the Colts were like at
[15:40] Speaker 2: their peak, there was there were multiple seasons in which
[15:42] Speaker 2: they went like twelve or thirteen or oh, and the
[15:44] Speaker 2: talk was like could the Colts go undefeated. Obviously the
[15:47] Speaker 2: Patriots we undfeated until they lost in the Super Bowl,
[15:49] Speaker 2: but it felt like that was an almost annual conversation
[15:51] Speaker 2: where it was like, could this team really go undefeated?
[15:53] Speaker 2: And I don't think we've had that for the last
[15:55] Speaker 2: four or five years. The Colts kind of flirted with
[15:58] Speaker 2: it until you know, things kind of fell up part
[16:00] Speaker 2: for them this year. But it doesn't really like it
[16:04] Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense that this would be the
[16:05] Speaker 2: team to reopen that and then for that to be
[16:07] Speaker 2: the right time for Aaron Donald to consider coming back.
[16:10] Speaker 2: I just think it would be fun. It's just one
[16:12] Speaker 2: of those things that we just haven't been able to
[16:13] Speaker 2: track in the last few years. That would be very fun.
[16:15] Speaker 1: And the parallels, right, having two all time greats on
[16:18] Speaker 1: that Patriots offense and Tom Brady and Randon and Randy Moss,
[16:23] Speaker 1: and to think about two of the all time greats
[16:25] Speaker 1: being on this hypothetical Rams defense. It will be fun.
[16:28] Speaker 1: It would be a fun story.
[16:29] Speaker 3: Defense would be back.
[16:31] Speaker 1: We did it. We've restored defense in the NFL. All right,
[16:36] Speaker 1: let's do it. I can't. I can't. I can't do
[16:41] Speaker 1: it as well as you. Right, A forty one year
[16:45] Speaker 1: old Ian Cunningham bolts out of bed. He'd just gotten
[16:48] Speaker 1: this job after navigating a sea of consultants, but the
[16:51] Speaker 1: consultants have abandoned him. In this time of need. This
[16:54] Speaker 1: young man with a bachelor's degree in psychology knew what
[16:57] Speaker 1: to say and when to say it. Now he needs
[16:59] Speaker 1: to know what to pay and when to pay it.
[17:02] Speaker 1: As he frets, Brad Holmes waits seven hundred miles away.
[17:06] Speaker 1: He's older, with more success. He knows there's a top
[17:09] Speaker 1: dollar running back to be paid in Atlanta and in Detroit.
[17:13] Speaker 1: He knows he has the power and a nation of
[17:15] Speaker 1: people waiting for the position to be brought back to
[17:18] Speaker 1: the financial position it was in long ago. And he wonders,
[17:22] Speaker 1: as we do, who pays first, who gets their money?
[17:27] Speaker 1: Shook Bijean word Jamir Hm.
[17:30] Speaker 2: I love this because I love the idea of a
[17:31] Speaker 2: standoff between two gms across the country. That's the first
[17:35] Speaker 2: adversarial situation that I'm really into right now. The answer
[17:41] Speaker 2: really lies in the details and the details of be
[17:42] Speaker 2: in the salar cap situation. If you look at the
[17:44] Speaker 2: Lions for next year, they're projected to have roughly forty
[17:47] Speaker 2: seven points, says forty eight million in available caspaces according
[17:50] Speaker 2: to over the Cap. You go over to the Falcons, Look,
[17:53] Speaker 2: we know what they did at quarterback, right, we know
[17:55] Speaker 2: that they are in a bit of a flux situation
[17:57] Speaker 2: at that position. But that's also allowed them to have
[17:59] Speaker 2: over one hundred and ten million dollars in available cap
[18:02] Speaker 2: space next year according to over the Cap. So I
[18:05] Speaker 2: think that the first player that gets paid is probably
[18:07] Speaker 2: be Jean Robinson. Now, if you look at their their career,
[18:10] Speaker 2: you know where they are on their career path. It
[18:13] Speaker 2: if you think about, all right, so who came to
[18:15] Speaker 2: relevance first, who rows into the spotlight first? Well, you're
[18:18] Speaker 2: going to go with probably Jimior Gibbs because of the Lions,
[18:21] Speaker 2: you know longer, you know history of success in recent years.
[18:25] Speaker 2: He could also say the same thing about Brad Holmes.
[18:27] Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, he's older, he's wiser. But I feel
[18:29] Speaker 2: like if there's one team that needs to score a
[18:31] Speaker 2: big win and this team could have that situation on
[18:34] Speaker 2: their hands this year, it's not going to be the
[18:36] Speaker 2: Detroit Lions. When it comes to off the field stuff,
[18:38] Speaker 2: it's going to be the Atlanta Falcons. Because I think
[18:39] Speaker 2: the Lions will bounce back and be fine, and the
[18:40] Speaker 2: Falcons could be competitive and everything, but it just makes
[18:43] Speaker 2: more sense to pay one of the best players in
[18:45] Speaker 2: football in my opinion, in Bjhon Robinson. So I'm going
[18:47] Speaker 2: to pay him first because I got more money to
[18:49] Speaker 2: work with next year. I can front load this deal.
[18:51] Speaker 3: I can.
[18:52] Speaker 2: You know, I don't have to stretch the money out
[18:53] Speaker 2: into future years like the Lions might have to with Gibbs.
[18:56] Speaker 2: Let's pay Bjon first, not because he's my favorite running
[18:59] Speaker 2: back between to but because the finances just make the
[19:02] Speaker 2: most sense.
[19:03] Speaker 1: And to be perfectly honest, you save money by paying
[19:05] Speaker 1: him first because of this situation exactly, and like considering
[19:09] Speaker 1: the financial constraints that Brad Holmes is in on a
[19:12] Speaker 1: team that's been historically more successful, which is wild to
[19:15] Speaker 1: say because we're talking Lions and falconsy or but recently,
[19:18] Speaker 1: like the historical success generally favors the Detroit Lions. And
[19:22] Speaker 1: as you said, this is not a commentary on which
[19:25] Speaker 1: one of these football players is best, because breaking news,
[19:28] Speaker 1: they're both spectacular. Both of these offenses would wilt and
[19:32] Speaker 1: fall apart without them. I would make the case the
[19:34] Speaker 1: Falcons rely more on Bajan than anybody else. And that's
[19:37] Speaker 1: not just like saying that Bajan is a better football player.
[19:41] Speaker 1: It's about everything that's around him. And he's had that
[19:43] Speaker 1: success despite all that. So I just wonder again, as
[19:47] Speaker 1: this army of consultants brought all these people to Atlanta
[19:50] Speaker 1: and Flowery Branch, was this a part of those conversations?
[19:55] Speaker 1: And why wait? Why wait when potentially Brad Holmes could
[20:00] Speaker 1: could wake up do some chicnry with the numbers. He
[20:03] Speaker 1: has the full faith and support of the Ford family
[20:06] Speaker 1: and the people of Detroit. Get a deal done. That's
[20:09] Speaker 1: only gonna cost the Falcons more. It's only going to
[20:11] Speaker 1: cost Atlanta more. Yeah.
[20:13] Speaker 2: Absolutely, And while they might have the luxury of being
[20:16] Speaker 2: able to wait because of the effective CAS space that's
[20:18] Speaker 2: gonna be available them in the future years good you know,
[20:20] Speaker 2: smart businesses do it sooner rather than later. I think
[20:22] Speaker 2: that we're gonna get closer to Jamiir being relied upon
[20:27] Speaker 2: about as much as Beijon this year, because he is
[20:29] Speaker 2: now clearly the bellcow in Detroit, which he'd been, you know,
[20:32] Speaker 2: part of a two headed backfield over the last couple
[20:34] Speaker 2: of years. It became more of a Jamir gives backfield
[20:36] Speaker 2: last year, which is why the Lions moved on from
[20:38] Speaker 2: David Montgomery. But that also gives you incentive to pay
[20:41] Speaker 2: him before that happens. So it is kind of a
[20:43] Speaker 2: race against time. But like we know, Bijon is like
[20:46] Speaker 2: the lynchpin of the Falcons offense. You cannot go. It
[20:49] Speaker 2: all falls apart without him. But now or now Jamir
[20:53] Speaker 2: is kind of going to move into that role too,
[20:55] Speaker 2: So you're right, sets of a really good race against time.
[20:57] Speaker 2: And like you said, the market's only going to increase
[20:59] Speaker 2: once one guy gets it's.
[21:00] Speaker 1: Paid yesterday's price, not today's price. The official position of
[21:04] Speaker 1: this program, I will say without Greg here, even though
[21:07] Speaker 1: he would echo my sentiments. They both they both deserve
[21:10] Speaker 1: to be compensated handsomely. But yeah, Shook and I both agree. Good,
[21:15] Speaker 1: you know, Ian, let's slid it across the table.
[21:19] Speaker 3: Man, how good? How good is president of football?
[21:21] Speaker 1: Meant?
[21:22] Speaker 2: What were his math courses like at Boston College? That's
[21:24] Speaker 2: what I want to know.
[21:25] Speaker 1: Well, it's the psychology thing because it worked on the consultants, right,
[21:29] Speaker 1: So let's let's use that. We'll hit up the agent.
[21:33] Speaker 1: Jean has already done one season of you know great, Uh,
[21:38] Speaker 1: television for you guys may not be familiar, uh, you know,
[21:42] Speaker 1: with with the Pogue life as we as we look
[21:45] Speaker 1: over uh to just one of the the the greatest shows,
[21:49] Speaker 1: uh in television history, which my for some reason, I'm
[21:54] Speaker 1: blanking on Outer Banks, which I've seen every single episode of.
[21:58] Speaker 3: It's a great It doesn't surprise me at all.
[22:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, he played a pirate, you know, and they play
[22:03] Speaker 1: the Buccaneers twice a year. So good luck to Jean Robinson,
[22:06] Speaker 1: Engemier Gibbs. Let's get our next mystery, all right.
[22:12] Speaker 2: A top pick has seen it all in his NFL career,
[22:15] Speaker 2: a coaching change, a benching, a fortunate return to action,
[22:21] Speaker 2: a career best performance followed by a dreadful showing on
[22:25] Speaker 2: the national stage, and a division title one despite losing
[22:29] Speaker 2: the regular season finale. None of it has produced a
[22:32] Speaker 2: clear conclusion on his future. Is Bryce Young the answer
[22:36] Speaker 2: in Carolina or not? And can he finally answered this
[22:40] Speaker 2: question in twenty twenty six?
[22:44] Speaker 1: Yes? My first answer because there's so many parallels sick
[22:50] Speaker 1: and I hate to do it. I hate to because
[22:51] Speaker 1: you know, this is not about height supremacy. Is shook
[22:55] Speaker 1: and I both are at and shook. Well, above six
[22:59] Speaker 1: feet tall. The standards for how tall a quarterback should
[23:03] Speaker 1: be do not favor folks like Bryce Young. But I
[23:07] Speaker 1: will point to another quarterback that played in the NFC South,
[23:10] Speaker 1: and again it's a player comp and it's unfortunate because
[23:12] Speaker 1: he wears the same number as Bryce Young. But there
[23:14] Speaker 1: was a moment where the Los Angeles Chargers made a choice,
[23:18] Speaker 1: and this was after a devastating shoulder injury for Drew Brees.
[23:21] Speaker 1: I completely understand the idea of not making a collective
[23:24] Speaker 1: investment that also Nick Saban didn't invest in which led
[23:28] Speaker 1: to him becoming the head coach of the University of Alabama,
[23:31] Speaker 1: Dante Culpepper going to Miami, and yes, Drew Brees going
[23:34] Speaker 1: to New Orleans. The Panthers could be in a situation
[23:37] Speaker 1: shook where if they do, and it's always regrettable if
[23:40] Speaker 1: you do give up on Bryce Young, he finds a
[23:43] Speaker 1: place where he's able to be successful in a different offense,
[23:47] Speaker 1: in a place that doesn't have to necessarily look back
[23:49] Speaker 1: at the investment that they made in him. And not
[23:52] Speaker 1: to say that sunk costs is some sort of thing
[23:54] Speaker 1: that we should always be worried about, but if we
[23:58] Speaker 1: examine those games where the Panthers were successful where they
[24:01] Speaker 1: did make plays, they were high leverage moments where it
[24:05] Speaker 1: could have gone either way, and it was Bryce Young
[24:08] Speaker 1: having to make a play. He has at least made
[24:11] Speaker 1: those plays. There are some quarterbacks who get in these
[24:13] Speaker 1: discussions shook that have successful offense as successful teams, but
[24:19] Speaker 1: it's tough to think about a lot of situations where
[24:21] Speaker 1: those plays are made. I leaned towards believing long term
[24:26] Speaker 1: in the guys that make the plays on the field.
[24:28] Speaker 1: That's my belief. Those biased yeah, clear.
[24:31] Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think there's a cautionary tale.
[24:33] Speaker 2: That's also another parallel that exists in the NFC South
[24:36] Speaker 2: right now, which is that the guy who wears Bryce
[24:38] Speaker 2: Young's number flipped upside down to Baker Mayfield because the
[24:42] Speaker 2: Browns basically made the decision in a similar situation because
[24:46] Speaker 2: they thought the grass was greener with Deshaan Watson. We
[24:48] Speaker 2: know how that all played out, and you know, Baker
[24:51] Speaker 2: has created quite a career for himself with the Buccaneers,
[24:53] Speaker 2: which you fear, if you're a Panthers fan, that would
[24:55] Speaker 2: happen to Bryce somewhere else if they were to move
[24:57] Speaker 2: on from him. The only difference I think is that
[25:01] Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield's issues were usually injury related, him playing through injury,
[25:05] Speaker 2: which happened again this past season. This guy needs to
[25:07] Speaker 2: learn how to just take a breather and heal up
[25:09] Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks.
[25:10] Speaker 3: I think.
[25:11] Speaker 2: But and it wasn't so much about questions of whether
[25:14] Speaker 2: he could deliver in the clutch or not. He did
[25:15] Speaker 2: a pretty good job of that with the Browns when
[25:17] Speaker 2: he was there, Yet they still moved on from him
[25:19] Speaker 2: because of the way his final season there ended. I
[25:21] Speaker 2: wouldn't want the Panthers to make the same mistake if
[25:23] Speaker 2: something like that happened. But I would very much understand
[25:27] Speaker 2: that if he had a tumultuous season, that if he
[25:29] Speaker 2: did struggle, if they didn't, you know, meet the same
[25:32] Speaker 2: expectations that were set by last season winning the division
[25:35] Speaker 2: title in what was the worst division football, that they
[25:38] Speaker 2: would be you know, inspired to move on thinking that
[25:41] Speaker 2: they could find something better in this upcoming class. Now,
[25:43] Speaker 2: if you're looking at a terrible season and everything's fallen
[25:46] Speaker 2: apart and you got a top five pick, then maybe
[25:49] Speaker 2: that makes a little bit more sense because of this
[25:50] Speaker 2: class that's coming up with quarterbacks. But otherwise, it's a
[25:53] Speaker 2: tough situation to be in, and a lot of it
[25:55] Speaker 2: speaks to continuity. How long have you played with Dave Canalis?
[25:58] Speaker 2: Now to mention the coach change, Frank Reich was his
[26:01] Speaker 2: coach's first year that ended, you know, in ugly fashion
[26:03] Speaker 2: rather quickly. You thought, like last year maybe would be
[26:07] Speaker 2: the first step. And I think that there were moments
[26:08] Speaker 2: of you know, optimism and reason to believe in him.
[26:12] Speaker 2: But like I said, there was you know, the four
[26:13] Speaker 2: hundred and forty yard game against Atlanta where they win
[26:15] Speaker 2: an overtime. The next week he delivers an absolute clunker
[26:18] Speaker 2: in San Francisco in prime time.
[26:20] Speaker 3: I can't have both sides that.
[26:21] Speaker 2: I don't think the Panthers can either, if they're going
[26:23] Speaker 2: to invest long term in a guy like this. They
[26:24] Speaker 2: do have the fifth year option already, so they're fine,
[26:26] Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't worry about, you know, security wise, I
[26:28] Speaker 2: still have that deal. It does jump to twenty five
[26:30] Speaker 2: point nine million dollars next year, but that's not a
[26:32] Speaker 2: huge issue for them. That's still below market rate for
[26:34] Speaker 2: a starting quarterback in the NFL at this point, so
[26:36] Speaker 2: it's fine. It's just that, like the pressure is on
[26:38] Speaker 2: He's going to have to start proving one way or
[26:40] Speaker 2: the other. And I think Dave Canalis is going to
[26:41] Speaker 2: have to too. Yes, they won the division last year, but
[26:43] Speaker 2: it wasn't the most like impressive victory in the division,
[26:47] Speaker 2: especially in the greater landscape of the NFL. So this
[26:50] Speaker 2: has gotta be the year that he takes the next step.
[26:52] Speaker 2: I want to believe that he can, but I'm gonna
[26:54] Speaker 2: be one of those skeptics that needs to be have
[26:56] Speaker 2: it proven to me before I believe it.
[26:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, being in the wild card game against the team
[27:00] Speaker 1: almost beat the team that won the Super Bowl is
[27:02] Speaker 1: not gonna that Banner's not going up in Charlotte.
[27:05] Speaker 3: We were that other team that everybody forgets.
[27:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, there's bringing up like the Canalis of it all.
[27:12] Speaker 1: If there is a bad enough season to move on
[27:14] Speaker 1: from Bryce, then is that bad enough that it's long
[27:18] Speaker 1: term bad for day of Canals? And that's the decision?
[27:21] Speaker 1: Like this offensive, you know, the guru Tad just gets
[27:25] Speaker 1: thrown around everybody. Every new coordinator has been called a
[27:27] Speaker 1: genius at some point this offseason, you know, so it
[27:32] Speaker 1: kind of becomes superfluous. But Canal is brought in to
[27:35] Speaker 1: repair an offense and give a young quarterback hope of
[27:38] Speaker 1: growing into and developing into something in the future. And
[27:41] Speaker 1: we've seen the hope. Now it's time for the sustained success.
[27:44] Speaker 1: Staying success is not there, like is it up for
[27:48] Speaker 1: both of them? There was the improvement right because Bryce's
[27:51] Speaker 1: pressure to sack ratio was horrible. It was twenty two
[27:55] Speaker 1: and a half percent coming into last year, dropped down
[27:57] Speaker 1: a thirteen point four percent. Check Down options being there
[28:01] Speaker 1: more and Bryce being more willing to take them was
[28:04] Speaker 1: a sign of growth. Cooker just gets the deal that
[28:07] Speaker 1: they believe in their group at receiver. Let's see what
[28:09] Speaker 1: they could do. I think twenty seven points a game
[28:13] Speaker 1: is that's it. It's Brison canal because it's an offensive situation.
[28:18] Speaker 1: Maybe there's change with Azure Everro on the other side.
[28:21] Speaker 1: You know, they just invested all that on defense. But
[28:25] Speaker 1: right around, like if he gets close to thirty, I
[28:28] Speaker 1: think they're both back. Yeah.
[28:30] Speaker 2: I actually really like the twenty seven point indicator because
[28:32] Speaker 2: I think that's the mark that you said for any
[28:33] Speaker 2: team that believes heavily in their defense, that if you
[28:35] Speaker 2: can put twenty seven on the board, you're gonna win
[28:37] Speaker 2: most games. And it points exactly what you said in
[28:39] Speaker 2: the investments in the defense, like they attack their defense
[28:41] Speaker 2: as offseason. Obviously with the addition of Jalen Phllips. They
[28:43] Speaker 2: got Lee Hunter in the second round to kind of
[28:44] Speaker 2: help their run stopping, and you can continue go down
[28:47] Speaker 2: the list, so it's like, yeah, maybe if that side comes,
[28:50] Speaker 2: you know, closer to where they want it to be,
[28:51] Speaker 2: then maybe there's a little bit of pressure off of
[28:53] Speaker 2: Bryce Young and it could mask the idea that like,
[28:56] Speaker 2: maybe he's not really proved himself as a franchise quarterback,
[28:59] Speaker 2: but it's more than good enough, and that's good enough
[29:01] Speaker 2: for them to invest him. I just don't want them
[29:03] Speaker 2: to be in the situation. I remember I was on
[29:05] Speaker 2: a vacation. I was going meet up with a bunch
[29:07] Speaker 2: of college friends a couple of summers ago, and I
[29:09] Speaker 2: saw on the ticker an NFL Network two a tong
[29:11] Speaker 2: about low as signs extension and I was just like that,
[29:13] Speaker 2: you're gonna regret that, and they did, and I don't
[29:16] Speaker 2: want that to be the situation in Carolina.
[29:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned Baker. I hope hopefully Baker gets
[29:21] Speaker 1: his deal, but yeah, if something happens to Bryce and
[29:25] Speaker 1: his shoulder is wrecked, and for some reason they continue
[29:28] Speaker 1: to put him into games like the Browns did. Then
[29:30] Speaker 1: it's just a foul on everybody.
[29:32] Speaker 3: Yes, protect players of the Cleveland Browns.
[29:35] Speaker 1: Protect players from themselves. Speaking of teams perennially taking quarterbacks,
[29:40] Speaker 1: I'll do my final unsolved. A young man throws a
[29:45] Speaker 1: ball in Austin, Texas. It's a hot day. He's the
[29:48] Speaker 1: target of a state's attention, the dreams of a nation,
[29:52] Speaker 1: a torrent of potential energy for the upcoming college football season,
[29:55] Speaker 1: but also a specter hanging over the NFL season for
[30:00] Speaker 1: who starts the season with problems. But they're all teams
[30:04] Speaker 1: that might be thinking about losing before any losing even happens.
[30:10] Speaker 1: Who already knows that they're going to march for Arch?
[30:13] Speaker 1: Who is planning for Manning? Who hopes to lose a
[30:17] Speaker 1: ton for Cooper's son? Do you think anybody's thinking about
[30:23] Speaker 1: it like that? We know the players and coaches aren't
[30:27] Speaker 1: thinking about it, right they, But what front offices are like,
[30:32] Speaker 1: hey man, we let's not try.
[30:37] Speaker 2: I don't think at this point that anybody is saying
[30:39] Speaker 2: let's not try. But I think there are some teams
[30:41] Speaker 2: that are constructed as if they are not going to
[30:43] Speaker 2: try or are they.
[30:43] Speaker 3: Expect to lose a lot of games.
[30:45] Speaker 2: One of those teams just signed a quarterback in Miami,
[30:47] Speaker 2: but that's a you know, massive rebuild that they're willingly undertaking.
[30:50] Speaker 2: Another team had a couple of strong draft classes, one
[30:53] Speaker 2: that we've actually gotten results from, another one that we
[30:55] Speaker 2: haven't seen them play because they're gonna be rookies this year.
[30:57] Speaker 2: It's the Cleveland Browns, and we know that their biggest
[30:59] Speaker 2: you know need it still is quarterback.
[31:02] Speaker 1: Uh.
[31:02] Speaker 2: And I think that they're going to trudge through this
[31:03] Speaker 2: season and be in prime position to potentially spend a
[31:06] Speaker 2: pick on Arch Banning.
[31:07] Speaker 4: Uh.
[31:07] Speaker 2: That those are probably the first two teams that come
[31:09] Speaker 2: to mind. Another one is Arizona, but Arizona did spend
[31:12] Speaker 2: that you know, third round pick on Carson Beck and
[31:14] Speaker 2: I then's something that we'll get to later in this
[31:16] Speaker 2: show that I think you should keep an eye on.
[31:19] Speaker 2: So those are the first three teams that really come
[31:21] Speaker 2: to mind. And you think about like the Raiders, you
[31:23] Speaker 2: know their situation that they were in last year, Well
[31:24] Speaker 2: they have for Nanda Mendoza now, so they're off the board,
[31:27] Speaker 2: and from there you just have to kind of kind
[31:28] Speaker 2: of continue to go down the list. Who needs answers.
[31:29] Speaker 2: The Jets need an answer after Geno. Are they just
[31:31] Speaker 2: going to ride this weird like honeymoon? Like this is like, oh,
[31:34] Speaker 2: the first marriage didn't work out, but we've we've worked
[31:36] Speaker 2: everything out and we actually want to get married again.
[31:38] Speaker 3: That does work sometimes?
[31:41] Speaker 1: Is our therapist in this marriage? By the way? Oh God?
[31:45] Speaker 2: But I think that yeah, I would put I would
[31:47] Speaker 2: put the Browns in prime position for that just ba.
[31:50] Speaker 2: I think that they'll actually probably be competitive enough to
[31:52] Speaker 2: maybe not end up with a top two pick.
[31:55] Speaker 3: And that's not me being hopeful or aspirational.
[31:57] Speaker 2: I just think that there they're personnel wise, is probably
[31:59] Speaker 2: gonna say that they'll be competitive enough to not be
[32:02] Speaker 2: one of the absolute worst teams in the league, even
[32:04] Speaker 2: though it would behoove them to end up with one
[32:06] Speaker 2: of those picks. But my biggest question this is a
[32:08] Speaker 2: mister that I need solve for me this season in
[32:10] Speaker 2: college football. I don't know if I'm that much of
[32:12] Speaker 2: a believer in our Smanning Stock, Like I know, this
[32:15] Speaker 2: is a kid that we have followed since he was
[32:16] Speaker 2: a freshman in high school because of his family name
[32:19] Speaker 2: and because of how tightly guarded the family kept his
[32:22] Speaker 2: whole recruitment and everything else, they have really managed this
[32:25] Speaker 2: like a professional agency would understandably so given their you know,
[32:29] Speaker 2: decades of experience with being an NFL quarterback going.
[32:32] Speaker 3: All the way back to Archie.
[32:33] Speaker 2: But I just need to see improved over the entire
[32:35] Speaker 2: course of the season, because I saw him way back
[32:37] Speaker 2: in Week one of last season, which is a long
[32:39] Speaker 2: time ago at this point, struggle mightily with accuracy with
[32:42] Speaker 2: decision making. He did improve later in the season, but
[32:44] Speaker 2: it all felt like too little, too late for that
[32:46] Speaker 2: Texas team. Can he build on the strides that he
[32:48] Speaker 2: made in the back half of last season and put
[32:50] Speaker 2: together one of those performances that rockets him up the
[32:52] Speaker 2: draft board at least justifies his reputation as it stands
[32:55] Speaker 2: right now, or are we going to see one of
[32:56] Speaker 2: those situations in which he never really quite fulfills that
[33:00] Speaker 2: maybe somebody overdrafts him. That's I'm not a hundred percent
[33:03] Speaker 2: bought in guy on arch Manning as at this point
[33:06] Speaker 2: right now.
[33:06] Speaker 1: Well, I think, and it's completely justifiable to feel that
[33:09] Speaker 1: way regarding the expectations versus the reality of what we've
[33:13] Speaker 1: seen on the field, but being who he is that
[33:17] Speaker 1: spark those those moments, that two hundred and fifty yard
[33:21] Speaker 1: three iron that hits within four inches of the pen
[33:24] Speaker 1: and stops dead. That keeps you coming back and keeps
[33:26] Speaker 1: you buying clubs. That's the thing that we have to
[33:30] Speaker 1: chart with these organizations because if they see that, like
[33:33] Speaker 1: at the performance from the Bowl game, if there's three
[33:36] Speaker 1: of those late in the season, they're they're selling the farm.
[33:40] Speaker 1: And like you mentioned, like Gardner Minshew or Carson Beck
[33:44] Speaker 1: or Jacoby Brissett, like these teams, they're gonna need these
[33:47] Speaker 1: guys to play standing on their heads, throwing touchdowns with
[33:49] Speaker 1: both arms at the same time before they get this
[33:52] Speaker 1: vision of this kid with Manning on the back of
[33:55] Speaker 1: the jersey running out there for their teams, which, you know,
[33:59] Speaker 1: gives me a chance to sh horn my case for
[34:00] Speaker 1: draft abolition in there, because we shouldn't be nine weeks
[34:03] Speaker 1: in the season and teams that like aren't necessarily out
[34:06] Speaker 1: of it with fan bases that are like, yeah, gozas
[34:09] Speaker 1: loves you know, like I think that's I think that's
[34:12] Speaker 1: bad for the game, But it's just it's an addiction
[34:16] Speaker 1: at this point and understandably, So these guys have been successful. Like, statistically,
[34:23] Speaker 1: Arch Manning is probably gonna play football. He's probably going
[34:25] Speaker 1: to play football somewhere, and you can make the case
[34:27] Speaker 1: that he could be successful with that, especially considering we
[34:30] Speaker 1: just saw and a lot of that was media generated,
[34:33] Speaker 1: but so much energy and attention going to Brettin Soresby,
[34:36] Speaker 1: who has not even accomplished what Arch has done. Shook
[34:40] Speaker 1: like people are so hard up for quarterbacks that they're
[34:42] Speaker 1: willing to do anyone anything, and this one has Manning
[34:44] Speaker 1: on the back of his jersey.
[34:45] Speaker 2: I liken it to the idea of driving past a
[34:48] Speaker 2: luxury car a lot and it's definitely way out of
[34:51] Speaker 2: your price range, but you're like, Oh, wouldn't it be
[34:53] Speaker 2: nice to have that Bugatti?
[34:54] Speaker 3: Would it be nice to drive that Lamborghini? Wouldn't it
[34:57] Speaker 3: Let's just go.
[34:57] Speaker 2: For a test dright, I could justify, you know, can
[35:00] Speaker 2: considering even just this Cadillac? Right, Like, eh, you know what,
[35:03] Speaker 2: I owe it to myself. Let me treat myself that
[35:05] Speaker 2: Folks just get that obsessed with quarterbacks. And I thought
[35:07] Speaker 2: Sorophy was a great comparison because that's immediately what came
[35:10] Speaker 2: to mind for me. Because I think back to his
[35:11] Speaker 2: first game last season when he was dreadful when they
[35:14] Speaker 2: played at Arrowhead, and then he you know, put together
[35:16] Speaker 2: a solid year and everything else goes in Texas tack.
[35:18] Speaker 3: We all know what happened from there, right.
[35:19] Speaker 2: But I do believe that you're right that teams have
[35:23] Speaker 2: made more desperate decisions in the draft than drafting Arch Manning.
[35:27] Speaker 2: We can go all the way back to selecting Mitch
[35:29] Speaker 2: Trubisky second overall, if we want to, like, teams constantly
[35:32] Speaker 2: reached for quarterbacks. The Rams, you know, convince themselves that
[35:35] Speaker 2: Ty Simpson was the future and spent a first round
[35:37] Speaker 2: pick on him this year, and I was like, there's
[35:39] Speaker 2: no way he's going that high, and then he did.
[35:41] Speaker 2: So crazier things have happened, and it wouldn't be crazy
[35:43] Speaker 2: at all. But I just need, as somebody who really
[35:47] Speaker 2: I guess I'm risk averse. Sometimes I need to see
[35:49] Speaker 2: it proven to me to really buy in, just because
[35:51] Speaker 2: the hype has been so loud and so strong with
[35:54] Speaker 2: Arch for so long.
[35:55] Speaker 1: Just again, everybody draft responsibly, and good luck to Arch
[36:00] Speaker 1: and and yeah, good lucks to Brendan Soresby. Stay you know, yeah,
[36:05] Speaker 1: don't don't scratch the itch.
[36:07] Speaker 3: But we'll see yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely that.
[36:10] Speaker 1: We'll see you when you get We got some we
[36:12] Speaker 1: got some power points that you can watch that are
[36:14] Speaker 1: going to prevent all that. Do you have one more shown?
[36:17] Speaker 3: Yeah? Got one more? Hit that music, Let's do it.
[36:24] Speaker 2: The story of a team in transition, a quarterback with
[36:28] Speaker 2: new opportunity, and an undetermined to pass forward Tonight on
[36:33] Speaker 2: Unsolved Mysteries, Malik Willis knows who his best running mate
[36:37] Speaker 2: is in Devon a Chan, But football is a game
[36:40] Speaker 2: one as a team two cannot do it alone. So
[36:44] Speaker 2: who might emerge as the next best partner in crime
[36:48] Speaker 2: in Miami?
[36:52] Speaker 1: I've got an answer for you, Shore, Let's do it. It's
[36:55] Speaker 1: for the for the folks who, again, not you, Brandon,
[36:58] Speaker 1: leave it alone, the folks who play fantasy football. Malik Washington,
[37:04] Speaker 1: this shook. This is the Malik Washington season, which makes me,
[37:08] Speaker 1: it makes me feel a little bit rough for miliquals
[37:11] Speaker 1: that we're having this conversation. It's honestly a little bit
[37:13] Speaker 1: unfair considering the overall circumstances. And it's like, yeah, we
[37:17] Speaker 1: gotta save a franchise. You're gonna have to do it alone. Man,
[37:20] Speaker 1: because we're gonna everybody out here, so you and this
[37:23] Speaker 1: five to nine hundred and fifty pound running back, it's
[37:27] Speaker 1: all you guys, Yeah, go out there. I guess he's
[37:29] Speaker 1: got to be the power back. Shook.
[37:32] Speaker 3: I know it's such a problem.
[37:34] Speaker 2: I'm so concerned about this entire situation because look, it
[37:37] Speaker 2: made sense for them to be like, hey, we're gonna
[37:38] Speaker 2: be the team to pull the trigger on Melik Willis.
[37:40] Speaker 3: We like what you know he became under Matt Lafleur
[37:43] Speaker 3: in Green Bay.
[37:43] Speaker 2: And then we're also gonna go trade away Jaylen Waddle
[37:46] Speaker 2: and yeah, we have a bit of an investment in
[37:48] Speaker 2: our offensive line.
[37:48] Speaker 3: That's probably our strength on the offensive side.
[37:50] Speaker 2: But title number one is Greg Dolcic, who had a
[37:52] Speaker 2: nice little bounce back, you know, first four a with
[37:55] Speaker 2: with the Dolphins. But I mean this corps is Malik
[37:58] Speaker 2: Washington and Jalen Tolbert and two to hours well and
[38:00] Speaker 2: Chris Bell coming off in acl you know, as a rookie, like,
[38:04] Speaker 2: I'm going all the way down to THEO Wiese junior.
[38:07] Speaker 2: And I remember last season when THEO wist Junior scored
[38:09] Speaker 2: a touchdown and Fox flew up his name. You know
[38:12] Speaker 2: on the graphic underneath him, and I went, who, Like,
[38:15] Speaker 2: that's gonna be the story of the Dolphins season. Offensively,
[38:17] Speaker 2: who this guy? But somebody's gotta emerge, So honestly, I
[38:22] Speaker 2: like that pick. I would love to believe in the
[38:24] Speaker 2: two two conspiracy, right, the two two push the agenda,
[38:28] Speaker 2: but I just don't think it happens in a team
[38:30] Speaker 2: that actually might need to rely on him. Jalen Tolbert
[38:32] Speaker 2: was a guy that you know in Dallas, never lived
[38:35] Speaker 2: up to his expectation, was often an unfair target of
[38:40] Speaker 2: fans iire in his first couple of years there.
[38:42] Speaker 3: I like the idea of.
[38:43] Speaker 2: Him getting a fresh start with the Dolphins, but again,
[38:45] Speaker 2: this is going to just be a challenge for this
[38:47] Speaker 2: entire unit. And I pray Devon ay chenkn play the
[38:49] Speaker 2: majority of the season because they're going to need him desperately.
[38:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a question of who makes the place right.
[38:54] Speaker 1: And that's why I bring up Malik Washington because I've
[38:56] Speaker 1: seen them make plays and I know too too, and
[38:59] Speaker 1: Jay and Tolbert have played football. They played a lot
[39:02] Speaker 1: of football. They played with really good quarterbacks and really
[39:05] Speaker 1: good offenses where they weren't even the top one or
[39:07] Speaker 1: two options, and we still didn't see those plays. That's
[39:11] Speaker 1: the concerning part to me, where they're like pieces in
[39:15] Speaker 1: something that's really good. It's gonna be tough for this
[39:19] Speaker 1: assembly to be really good. And Malik Washington like, let's
[39:25] Speaker 1: let's go. I'm worried, but in terms like it could
[39:30] Speaker 1: all be Malik, I just hope we can get sixteen
[39:33] Speaker 1: seventeen games of Malik Willis being healthy considering all that
[39:38] Speaker 1: he's going to need to do for this offense to
[39:40] Speaker 1: move the ball.
[39:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's that's my greatest concern. Is
[39:44] Speaker 2: that look like when he came out of college, when
[39:46] Speaker 2: he came out of Liberty as a Tennessee he just
[39:47] Speaker 2: looked lost, like he was not ready for the pro game.
[39:49] Speaker 2: And fortunately he was able to land in a good
[39:51] Speaker 2: spot where he could actually grow and learn the plays.
[39:54] Speaker 2: And even he said that he's like, y're too with
[39:56] Speaker 2: the backers. He was like, I know the plays now,
[39:58] Speaker 2: Like that's half the battle. He was able to use
[40:00] Speaker 2: this natural talents to the best of his ability and
[40:02] Speaker 2: kind of, you know, raise enough eyebrows to attract you know,
[40:05] Speaker 2: the contract that he's earned in a small sample size.
[40:08] Speaker 2: But now is where the real test begins, and it's
[40:11] Speaker 2: with leading this team. And it's funny because they asked
[40:14] Speaker 2: him about Jaylen Wadle getting traded away and he was
[40:16] Speaker 2: very blunt about and he was just like, yeah, this
[40:19] Speaker 2: is exactly what he said.
[40:20] Speaker 3: But he essentially said this, it sucked.
[40:22] Speaker 2: Oh wait wait, I gotta be the quarterback now, I
[40:24] Speaker 2: can't say this.
[40:25] Speaker 3: I will be fine. I hope that they'll be fine.
[40:28] Speaker 1: No, it's the right answer, Malik. If something sucks, say
[40:32] Speaker 1: it sucks. You know. We we just you know, we
[40:34] Speaker 1: just finished a conversation about teams maybe not trying so hard,
[40:37] Speaker 1: and maybe that team has a history of maybe not
[40:39] Speaker 1: trying so hard. So we just want, we want everything
[40:42] Speaker 1: to be in the up and up. Let's do a
[40:43] Speaker 1: quick run before we do have a solved mystery that
[40:46] Speaker 1: I can give you and the folks, uh shook quick
[40:49] Speaker 1: run through here, who's gonna sound Debo or Stefan Digs?
[40:52] Speaker 1: If you had to pick a spot for those guys
[40:54] Speaker 1: where they're going, I lean.
[40:56] Speaker 2: Diggs because all due respect to Debo, he I think
[41:00] Speaker 2: he's one of those players that the style of play,
[41:02] Speaker 2: you know, being the rugged, short, more explosive receiver, when
[41:05] Speaker 2: you get older, I think that time that tends to
[41:07] Speaker 2: fall off, and we kind of saw that in Washington,
[41:09] Speaker 2: just being his availability not being the best, And I
[41:12] Speaker 2: think that he's somebody that ends up latching on with
[41:14] Speaker 2: the team that develops a need at receiver in training camp.
[41:17] Speaker 2: Right whereas Diggs, I think, you know the role that
[41:20] Speaker 2: he played with the Patriots, you know, in the leader
[41:23] Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl.
[41:24] Speaker 3: You know, I was embedded with the Patriots all week,
[41:26] Speaker 3: and all.
[41:27] Speaker 2: Those guys just talked about like him being the older
[41:29] Speaker 2: guy in the room that was really showing them how
[41:30] Speaker 2: to do things. They basically presented Stefan Diggs in a
[41:33] Speaker 2: positive light that we've never seen Stefan Diggs presented in
[41:35] Speaker 2: the course of his career. And yes, he didn't really
[41:38] Speaker 2: do anything in the Super Bowl, but the idea that
[41:40] Speaker 2: he was able to kind of bring that room together
[41:42] Speaker 2: and serve as a veteran leader on their march to
[41:44] Speaker 2: the Super Bowl carried a lot of weight with me,
[41:46] Speaker 2: and I think will land him with the right team.
[41:48] Speaker 3: It's just a matter of who.
[41:49] Speaker 2: So you think about some potential pairings, and a quick
[41:53] Speaker 2: one is he's a Maryland kid. Why not go back
[41:56] Speaker 2: to the commanders where it's Terry McLaurin and some guys
[41:59] Speaker 2: that would make a lot of sense. The guys that
[42:01] Speaker 2: they've spent draft picks on in recent years haven't worked out.
[42:03] Speaker 2: They could use a running mate in that receiving court.
[42:05] Speaker 2: You look at the Raiders, we know that their whole
[42:08] Speaker 2: group has not been you know, anything to really write
[42:11] Speaker 2: home about. Whether it started with the idea of drafting
[42:13] Speaker 2: Jack Besh and he failed to really make a difference.
[42:15] Speaker 2: They did add Jalen Naylor, but Trey Tucker is the
[42:17] Speaker 2: other guy out there, and they have Dante Thornton as
[42:19] Speaker 2: you know, somebody who could potentially make a difference downfield.
[42:21] Speaker 3: But that group is not very deep.
[42:23] Speaker 2: There's way too much of a reliance on Brock Bowers,
[42:25] Speaker 2: and we saw what happens when Brock is not at
[42:27] Speaker 2: one hundred percent health and your offensive line isn't very good,
[42:30] Speaker 2: you fall apart offensively, which is what they did last year.
[42:32] Speaker 3: Obviously.
[42:32] Speaker 2: You know, the offensive line has gotten a little bit
[42:34] Speaker 2: better with the addition of Tyler Linderbaum, and hopefully it's
[42:36] Speaker 2: just a better group overall with Kirk Cousins or Fromanda
[42:39] Speaker 2: Mendoza leading that offense. So I think that's another good
[42:41] Speaker 2: fit there where he could make an impact on a
[42:43] Speaker 2: team that could use some leadership and some experience.
[42:45] Speaker 3: But then I think about contenders.
[42:47] Speaker 2: And that's not to say that, like, you know, Commanders
[42:49] Speaker 2: fans and Raiders fans shouldn't be excited for the season,
[42:51] Speaker 2: because they should.
[42:51] Speaker 3: Everybody should. It's June, it's optimism season.
[42:54] Speaker 2: But let's talk about real contenders, and let's think about
[42:56] Speaker 2: the Rams, and let's think about the fact that they
[42:58] Speaker 2: considered getting rid of DeVante a favor of AJ Brown
[43:01] Speaker 2: and then they didn't. They backed off, They went out
[43:02] Speaker 2: of the AJ Brown seep sweepstakes. Their top three right
[43:05] Speaker 2: now are Pukakua, Devonte Adams, and Jordan Whittington. And all
[43:07] Speaker 2: due respect to Jordan Whittington, a player who I think
[43:09] Speaker 2: is nice and makes good plays in spots they could
[43:12] Speaker 2: use more death too. This is a team that wants
[43:13] Speaker 2: go win a Super Bowl. Go ad a guy like
[43:15] Speaker 2: that who has experienced, who was just in the Super Bowl.
[43:18] Speaker 2: As long as you can break keep it all together
[43:19] Speaker 2: in the locker room, which I think that they'll be
[43:21] Speaker 2: able to do. So that makes a lot of sense
[43:22] Speaker 2: for me, And they could also make it work capwise,
[43:24] Speaker 2: and the last team that really couldn't make it work capwise,
[43:26] Speaker 2: but just stays on our radar, and it's going to
[43:27] Speaker 2: be on our radar for years and years to come
[43:29] Speaker 2: because they never quite fill out this position. Group is
[43:31] Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. Yes, you have Rachet Rice coming
[43:34] Speaker 2: back from injury and everything else. You have Xavier Worthy
[43:36] Speaker 2: coming back as well, and you have Taekwon Thornton, a
[43:38] Speaker 2: fun little downfield guy. Right, but this is a group
[43:41] Speaker 2: that has never really had the fully fledged receiving corpse
[43:45] Speaker 2: since the days of Tyreek Hill, and why not, you know,
[43:49] Speaker 2: try to find a way. The problem is you'd have
[43:51] Speaker 2: to make the money work. They only have like four
[43:52] Speaker 2: million dollars in cap stays right now. That would be
[43:54] Speaker 2: a big hurdle for them. But everybody wants to be
[43:56] Speaker 2: on a contender. Why not go join the Chiefs.
[43:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a long time since there's been that
[44:00] Speaker 1: technician in case where like you got to go back
[44:03] Speaker 1: to Sammy Watkins. Was that the last the actual why
[44:08] Speaker 1: there was the late stage nuke for for some time?
[44:11] Speaker 1: But yeah, and let's do one more here. Well, we'll
[44:15] Speaker 1: go quickly in these quarterback battles, tour or Michael Pennock junior.
[44:21] Speaker 2: Mm okay, this is probably the one that I'm most
[44:24] Speaker 2: conflicted on because I think it really could go either way.
[44:26] Speaker 2: It also depends on Penix's health coming back from injury.
[44:30] Speaker 2: I feel like this is a neck and neck one
[44:31] Speaker 2: that could go either way to start the season, and
[44:34] Speaker 2: it's gonna be one of those campaigns which maybe Tua
[44:36] Speaker 2: starts and Penix ends up healthy enough and to find
[44:38] Speaker 2: some struggles at some point in the season they go
[44:40] Speaker 2: back to Penis and I just hope it's not one
[44:42] Speaker 2: of those yeo yo things they go back and forth
[44:43] Speaker 2: beteen quarterbacks because that's just going to ruin Penix's long
[44:45] Speaker 2: term development. But it is a different regime that you know,
[44:48] Speaker 2: this isn't their guy, so that's always very possible there.
[44:50] Speaker 2: But I think we start with Tua as QB one
[44:53] Speaker 2: to begin the season.
[44:53] Speaker 1: All right, Are we going to be subjected as a
[44:55] Speaker 1: football family to Deshaun Watson playing football?
[44:58] Speaker 3: Yes, And I don't know how it's going to go.
[45:01] Speaker 2: I you know, if the last four years or any
[45:05] Speaker 2: proof it's not going to go well.
[45:07] Speaker 3: But that's pretty much the Browns.
[45:08] Speaker 2: That's the position they've you know, put themselves in with
[45:11] Speaker 2: him in Shador. I saw a social media posts to
[45:13] Speaker 2: say about people hearing rumors about trade calls for Shadoor
[45:16] Speaker 2: because the Shadoor agenda never stops among the fans. Just
[45:19] Speaker 2: what is going on here? It's going to be ugly.
[45:21] Speaker 2: I'm gonna get tired of it by week three. But
[45:23] Speaker 2: I think that they are laying the groundwork to put
[45:25] Speaker 2: to Sean in the starting role in seeing where it goes.
[45:28] Speaker 1: How many weeks off Kirk Cousins as the starting quarterback
[45:30] Speaker 1: of the Las Vegas Raiders do we.
[45:32] Speaker 3: Get Okay, I'm going to set you a range.
[45:34] Speaker 2: We're at least four and this is not a Russell
[45:36] Speaker 2: Wilson four where I always felt like that was his
[45:38] Speaker 2: job that he was going to lose. This is a
[45:40] Speaker 2: four to eight game range because I think that's what
[45:43] Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak wants to get his offense settled and everybody
[45:46] Speaker 2: understanding exactly what they want to do their roles, how
[45:49] Speaker 2: they want to execute from a week to week basis
[45:51] Speaker 2: with a veteran, a mature guy, like he said, he
[45:53] Speaker 2: wanted to lead this offense into their first year together.
[45:56] Speaker 2: But eventually fans are going to want to see for
[45:57] Speaker 2: Nana Mendoza and if they struggle, it's going to be
[45:58] Speaker 2: sooner than later, which is why my ranges foward to
[46:00] Speaker 2: eight weeks.
[46:01] Speaker 1: In terms of fans wanting something sooner rather than later.
[46:04] Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys fan base would like to have sustained
[46:07] Speaker 1: success in the postseason. The overall mystery are the Dallas
[46:15] Speaker 1: Cowboys going to win the Super Bowl? Brian Schottenneimer has
[46:17] Speaker 1: an answer for us.
[46:18] Speaker 2: Looking at head into the season. If I ask your
[46:20] Speaker 2: confidence level, I know you're say confident, but you look
[46:23] Speaker 2: at the schedule. You also look at a lot of
[46:24] Speaker 2: the movies on Mayo Devin side of all looks.
[46:27] Speaker 1: To be some good moves.
[46:28] Speaker 2: Where's your confidence low right now?
[46:31] Speaker 1: I mean.
[46:33] Speaker 4: Very confident. I love our roster, you know. I love
[46:36] Speaker 4: the changes that we've made on defense. I love Dax
[46:39] Speaker 4: grasp of what we're doing offensively. I love watching Tyler Booker,
[46:43] Speaker 4: you know, going to year or two and donovanez Aroku.
[46:45] Speaker 4: I love the addition to Kobe Durant, Rashan Gary. We're
[46:48] Speaker 4: seeing the best versions of Kenny Clark and Quinn Williams.
[46:51] Speaker 4: You know, I feel very, very confident and believe that
[46:54] Speaker 4: we're gonna find a way to be in that game
[46:55] Speaker 4: and win.
[46:56] Speaker 1: That game, being the super Bowl. Next shock? Are you sold?
[47:00] Speaker 1: Mentioned nine players there? The Cowboys are gonna win the
[47:03] Speaker 1: Super Bowl, be in that game and win it.
[47:05] Speaker 2: The best version of Kenny Clark when he's approaching his
[47:08] Speaker 2: thirty first birthday.
[47:09] Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Brian.
[47:12] Speaker 2: In order to get to that game, they need to
[47:13] Speaker 2: win the game that they haven't won in thirty years,
[47:15] Speaker 2: which is the divisional game.
[47:16] Speaker 3: So let's start with that. How about that?
[47:18] Speaker 2: Of course, everybody wants to be in the Super Bowl,
[47:19] Speaker 2: and if you ask any team at this point in
[47:21] Speaker 2: the season.
[47:22] Speaker 3: They're all going to say that they love their roster,
[47:24] Speaker 3: whether they believe it or not.
[47:26] Speaker 2: I actually am a believer in the Cowboys because they
[47:29] Speaker 2: had one of the best offenses last year and the
[47:31] Speaker 2: defense just couldn't stop a nosebleed. Do you have numbers
[47:34] Speaker 2: for me to explain exactly how bad their defense?
[47:36] Speaker 4: Yes?
[47:37] Speaker 3: How much?
[47:37] Speaker 1: In terms of success rate? If we go back in
[47:39] Speaker 1: the Next Gen Stats era, the Dallas Cowboys' opponents from
[47:43] Speaker 1: twenty twenty five would have been the best offense in
[47:46] Speaker 1: the entire NNGS era by five percentage points. Sure, five
[47:50] Speaker 1: percentage points they were in terms of explosive play rate
[47:53] Speaker 1: and success rate. They played a mismatch with the twenty
[47:56] Speaker 1: twenty five rams and twenty twenty five to forty nine
[47:59] Speaker 1: ers at the same time. Every time they stepped on
[48:01] Speaker 1: the field, they just got to be marginally better. That's
[48:04] Speaker 1: why all those players that shot he mentioned, most of
[48:07] Speaker 1: them played defense. It was a casual mention to Dak
[48:09] Speaker 1: and Tyler Booker, but everybody else, including the best version
[48:12] Speaker 1: of Kenny Clark. So congratulations to the Dallas Cowboys fans.
[48:15] Speaker 1: They did it.
[48:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they got the best version of George
[48:17] Speaker 2: Pickens last year and hopefully he's an even better version
[48:19] Speaker 2: of himself last yar this year. I mean, they had
[48:21] Speaker 2: two thousand yard receivers last year. How do we have
[48:23] Speaker 2: believe in this team? If they can figure it out
[48:24] Speaker 2: defensively with all the additions they've made, this should be
[48:26] Speaker 2: a playoff team that has legitimate Super Bowl aspirations. I'd
[48:29] Speaker 2: call me crazy. Don't say it's because they wear the
[48:31] Speaker 2: star on their helmet. I'm just saying the math is
[48:33] Speaker 2: mathing as long as that math you just gave me
[48:36] Speaker 2: ain't math.
[48:36] Speaker 3: And again this year, Yeah.
[48:38] Speaker 1: And the math that we enjoy is having Nick Chook
[48:41] Speaker 1: on this podcast. He mentioned several sports car brands, with
[48:45] Speaker 1: which Eric pointed out that Schuk could only fit in
[48:47] Speaker 1: one of those, and that was a catial. So thanks
[48:51] Speaker 1: to Nick Chook, thanks to Eric Roberts, thanks to Robert Flack,
[48:54] Speaker 1: and everybody who worked on Unsolved Mysteries back in the
[48:59] Speaker 1: day to give us a theme for our off season
[49:02] Speaker 1: edition of NFL Daily. For Nick Schuk, Eric Roberts, I'm
[49:06] Speaker 1: Patrick Claybond. We'll be back on Thursday with more podcasts
[49:10] Speaker 1: for all of you. Stay safe, happy belated Father's Day,
[49:13] Speaker 1: and we'll see you guys later this week.

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