# What We Learned: Stafford's Deal, Giants Drama and a Safer Caleb?

An episode of [NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/680904259), 26 May 2026, 42 min.

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Gregg Rosenthal and Will Gavin get your caught up on everything you need to know from OTAs around the NFL including Matthew Stafford's new contract with the Rams, the Giants giving Joe Schoen a contract extension while also dealing with online drama between Jaxson Dart and Abdul Carter, Caleb Williams playing a safer game for the Bears, a new look to the Eagles defense and more! NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:04] Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we definitely knew it was
[0:08] Speaker 1: not ai man. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in my garage
[0:13] Speaker 1: after a long Memorial Day weekend talking to the only
[0:17] Speaker 1: man that makes sense, after honoring those who lost their
[0:21] Speaker 1: lives in service. Yes, it's one of our allies, talkSPORT
[0:26] Speaker 1: UK Zone, Will.
[0:27] Speaker 2: Gavin, Thanks thanks for joining us. Will, no worries.
[0:30] Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on from the officially hottest
[0:33] Speaker 3: day May has ever seen in London, in a country
[0:37] Speaker 3: where we don't have air conditioning. So if at some
[0:40] Speaker 3: point I just slump over to the side and pass out,
[0:42] Speaker 3: keep going on without me, I'll be fine eventually.
[0:44] Speaker 2: Yes, you are a man who can play hurt. I can.
[0:48] Speaker 2: The twins are in the background.
[0:49] Speaker 1: You might hear Will's beautiful young daughters, and you might
[0:55] Speaker 1: hear us just updating you on what happened over a
[0:58] Speaker 1: busy four day weekend. For me personally, I had my
[1:00] Speaker 1: in last year. I went to Vegas, I went to
[1:03] Speaker 1: a Dodgers game. We barbecued, like, hey, I need a
[1:06] Speaker 1: vacation from my vacation, but let's go through all the news.
[1:09] Speaker 2: We got some. We just want to get you caught up.
[1:12] Speaker 1: I got about fifteen items things that we learned over
[1:15] Speaker 1: the long weekend, And it really started, like right after
[1:18] Speaker 1: we taped our last show, Matthew Stafford signed a contract extension.
[1:22] Speaker 2: We were expecting this to happen.
[1:25] Speaker 1: Will, but I thought the details of it were the
[1:28] Speaker 1: part that I was looking for and most interested in.
[1:32] Speaker 1: The short version is it's a one year, fifty five
[1:34] Speaker 1: million dollar extension. The details indicate it's really just a
[1:40] Speaker 1: five year raise for this season for Matthew Stafford. What
[1:45] Speaker 1: do you think about the way they're kind of approaching
[1:48] Speaker 1: this era of Stafford contractually and of course with ty
[1:52] Speaker 1: Simpson now waiting in the wings.
[1:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, from their perspective, what he's gonna boost, He's gonna
[1:58] Speaker 3: make at least forty five dollars, probably will make the
[2:01] Speaker 3: full amount you imagine, barring injury or anything else. And
[2:05] Speaker 3: they've set him up so that there is that into
[2:09] Speaker 3: next year guaranteed money available if they wish to continue this.
[2:13] Speaker 3: If they don't send inside that ty Simpson is the future,
[2:17] Speaker 3: obviously there's something going on there where they need to
[2:20] Speaker 3: keep the man happy. After making the decision to draft
[2:23] Speaker 3: a quarterback at thirteen, overall, it's not a decision I loved.
[2:27] Speaker 3: I have to be honest, I've probably not been on
[2:29] Speaker 3: here giving my views on this, but when guys have
[2:33] Speaker 3: gone into situations before and been the backup for a
[2:37] Speaker 3: top tier star and it's worked with the Aaron Rodgers
[2:39] Speaker 3: and Jordan Loves etc. Of this world, it's been somebody
[2:42] Speaker 3: with a special level of talent, and it's totally made
[2:45] Speaker 3: sense to me. Ty Simpson isn't necessarily that guy, and
[2:48] Speaker 3: at thirteen felt incredibly rich to me. But now they
[2:52] Speaker 3: feel set, Now they feel like they're ready to go.
[2:54] Speaker 3: I just I kind of wish they've given Matthew Stafford,
[2:56] Speaker 3: not just nextra five million dollars, but maybe somebody else
[2:59] Speaker 3: to throw the ball to.
[3:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the contract was very team friendly. The
[3:06] Speaker 1: last contract Stafford signed was very team friendly. It was
[3:10] Speaker 1: reported he could have gotten more money to leave for
[3:12] Speaker 1: the Raiders in the giant smart move, like they could
[3:14] Speaker 1: have won the Super Bowl last year. But five million
[3:17] Speaker 1: dollars extra for this year and essentially no guaranteed money
[3:22] Speaker 1: for next year. All it does is force the Rams
[3:24] Speaker 1: to make a decision, and more like Matthew Stafford make
[3:27] Speaker 1: a decision whether he's still playing or not. Fairly early,
[3:30] Speaker 1: I think his contracts guaranteed, you know, early into the
[3:33] Speaker 1: next league year.
[3:34] Speaker 2: It's right at the beginning. But even then, if he.
[3:36] Speaker 1: Decides to return one year, fifty million dollars for next
[3:39] Speaker 1: year is a bargain. One year forty five million dollars,
[3:42] Speaker 1: which is what he's getting this year, is a bargain.
[3:45] Speaker 1: This guy just won the MVP. If he was angry
[3:48] Speaker 1: at the Rams, and I can't imagine he was thrilled,
[3:53] Speaker 1: my takeaway was, well, he didn't take him out on
[3:55] Speaker 1: them on this contract. If anything, he thought he could
[4:00] Speaker 1: have put them over a barrel. So if you're looking
[4:02] Speaker 1: to give a Matthew Stafford pat on the back as
[4:04] Speaker 1: a Rams fan, here.
[4:05] Speaker 4: You go and listen. On top of all of that,
[4:08] Speaker 4: I think.
[4:09] Speaker 3: That the fact that the real winners in this or US,
[4:13] Speaker 3: the football reporting public, the public enjoying it as well,
[4:16] Speaker 3: because what we don't get is at the start of
[4:18] Speaker 3: next season, the Willie won't he this year? Didity the
[4:21] Speaker 3: award ceremony, well done, Matthew, really appreciate it. But while
[4:24] Speaker 3: we watch what's happening in Pittsburgh, what happened in Pittsburgh,
[4:27] Speaker 3: we're not going to have to have any of that
[4:28] Speaker 3: next offseason, we'll know very early whether he's staying or going,
[4:31] Speaker 3: whether they're going to give him that guaranteed money. I
[4:33] Speaker 3: suspect that they want him to be there for at
[4:35] Speaker 3: least two years, and I think they see ty Simpson's
[4:36] Speaker 3: at the starter in twenty twenty seven. But it gives
[4:40] Speaker 3: them that leeway. It gives Stafford that leeway. So yeah,
[4:42] Speaker 3: it gives us an answer nice and earlier.
[4:44] Speaker 1: It puts a little more pressure on everything about this season.
[4:48] Speaker 2: I think that's what ty Simpson did.
[4:50] Speaker 1: That's the most negative thing that they did with tys Simpson,
[4:52] Speaker 1: other than the opportunity cause of not getting a good player,
[4:56] Speaker 1: was that if Stafford, for whatever he isn't, is hurt
[4:58] Speaker 1: slash struggling through eight games, then we're just automatically thinking
[5:05] Speaker 1: is this going to be the end for Stafford in
[5:07] Speaker 1: LA because this contract, on top of other things, makes
[5:10] Speaker 1: it really easy for them to move on, like he's
[5:13] Speaker 1: going to have to be a top ten quarterback, no
[5:15] Speaker 1: reason to think he wouldn't be as long as he's healthy.
[5:17] Speaker 1: It's a great situation. So that's the Stafford of it all.
[5:20] Speaker 1: The next section actually has our our two through five points.
[5:23] Speaker 1: We got we got about fifteen things we learned. Will
[5:26] Speaker 1: I'm all about learning in the off season.
[5:28] Speaker 4: I know it.
[5:29] Speaker 1: I'm giving it section in the land of Giants, we
[5:34] Speaker 1: have four Giants little nuggets, starting with Joe Shane signing
[5:40] Speaker 1: one of the most surprising contract extensions of the offseason.
[5:45] Speaker 1: If Joe Shane is getting multi year extensions, Will, Hey,
[5:50] Speaker 1: I think we should all feel better in the world
[5:52] Speaker 1: of football that we could be getting, you know, security
[5:55] Speaker 1: long term. It's not such a crazy business.
[5:57] Speaker 3: It's so obvious that the dynamic is shift there right
[6:00] Speaker 3: and under Joe Shane. And there's some Giants fans who's
[6:03] Speaker 3: still backing based on the drafting he's done, et cetera.
[6:05] Speaker 3: But twenty two to forty five and one in the
[6:08] Speaker 3: time he's been there, John Harbor directing, like reporting directly
[6:13] Speaker 3: to ownership, directly to the Marris director, to whoever else.
[6:16] Speaker 4: Effectively, what is he now? Is he.
[6:20] Speaker 3: Just scouting? Is it just player acquisition? Is it just
[6:24] Speaker 3: what is his role? And so maybe like you know,
[6:28] Speaker 3: they've worked together on this draft, they were pleased with
[6:30] Speaker 3: bringing in Arvill Reese and everything else they did, and
[6:33] Speaker 3: so maybe they've turned around and gone, do you know
[6:35] Speaker 3: what we like it. We're redefining it. We'll give you
[6:38] Speaker 3: a multiyear contract, but you're in this new job role.
[6:40] Speaker 3: But none of that seems to have come out. Yeah,
[6:42] Speaker 3: it just it baffles me. It baffles me that I
[6:45] Speaker 3: would have thought that John Harbor would have gone and
[6:47] Speaker 3: got his own guy and had somebody that he would
[6:49] Speaker 3: work with.
[6:49] Speaker 4: But maybe Harbell's fallen in love with him and it's
[6:52] Speaker 4: going to be a wonderful marriage.
[6:54] Speaker 2: Or maybe you ask what is rollers?
[6:56] Speaker 1: I mean, I think for a lot of teams it
[6:58] Speaker 1: would be the role of like assistant GM that that
[7:00] Speaker 1: feels like the role because he's reporting to someone Dona Ponde,
[7:04] Speaker 1: who's been reporting to John Harbaugh and he or he's
[7:07] Speaker 1: like the director, you know, the director of scouting, essentially
[7:10] Speaker 1: like managing a couple of things.
[7:11] Speaker 2: And that's fine.
[7:12] Speaker 1: The Giant, he probably has a great relationship with ownership.
[7:14] Speaker 1: They like continuity and these are the types of contracts.
[7:19] Speaker 1: Even though Joe Shane is making a great living for
[7:22] Speaker 1: the average person, that if the Giants wanted to move
[7:25] Speaker 1: on and Joe Shane is the fall guy after this year,
[7:28] Speaker 1: he absolutely still could be. So I don't take too
[7:31] Speaker 1: much stock into it. But they just kind of wanted
[7:33] Speaker 1: to quiet the narrative, and he was entering the final
[7:37] Speaker 1: year of his contract. Much more important to the twenty
[7:39] Speaker 1: twenty six Giants will Is Malik Neighbors. John Harbaugh spoke
[7:44] Speaker 1: about Neighbors last week the Giants, as we mentioned, a
[7:47] Speaker 1: lot of the new coach teams had started OTA's last week.
[7:52] Speaker 1: We've got eleven more teams on the field.
[7:55] Speaker 2: Will on Tuesday, teams are practicing, We got the majority
[7:59] Speaker 2: of the leg Football is back. I think football is back.
[8:03] Speaker 1: And one of the reasons we know is John Harbaugh
[8:07] Speaker 1: is speaking to the media.
[8:08] Speaker 5: Yeah, he's in the middle of it. He's in the
[8:10] Speaker 5: middle of it. It's just it's such a hard thing.
[8:12] Speaker 5: It's a it's an a cl and whatever else he
[8:14] Speaker 5: had in that knee not a simple knee, you know.
[8:18] Speaker 5: So he's he's in the he's in the slog of it,
[8:22] Speaker 5: you know, the grind of it, I would say. So
[8:24] Speaker 5: he's fighting through it, you know, and he's here every
[8:27] Speaker 5: day working hard at it. Just impossible to predict. I mean,
[8:31] Speaker 5: the goal is to you know, start to seize and
[8:33] Speaker 5: get out there sometime in training camp. That'd be the goal.
[8:36] Speaker 5: And we'll see what happens. If he's out there, great,
[8:39] Speaker 5: he's not out there, great, you know, we'll be ready
[8:41] Speaker 5: to go either way. But I know he's fighting like
[8:44] Speaker 5: crazy to do his best to be out there, and
[8:46] Speaker 5: he's with the guys every day.
[8:47] Speaker 1: That's John Harbaugh and Malik Neighbors. The lack of specificity
[8:52] Speaker 1: there and how John Harbad normally handles injuries, which is
[8:55] Speaker 1: not to give away much of anything. Actually did feel
[8:57] Speaker 1: like giving away something there.
[8:58] Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and it was the if he's not out there.
[9:02] Speaker 3: If he's out there, great, If he's not out there great.
[9:04] Speaker 3: I'm not sure that that's quite right. I think they're
[9:07] Speaker 3: desperate for him to be out there for the start
[9:09] Speaker 3: of the season. They bring in Isaiah Likely right, that's
[9:11] Speaker 3: the big pass catching option they brought in, and then
[9:14] Speaker 3: a bunch of kind of wide receiver, three to four guys,
[9:16] Speaker 3: Calvin Austin, Darnell Mooney, the guy they getting the third
[9:20] Speaker 3: round Malachi fields like. But the fact is his elite
[9:23] Speaker 3: Neighbors is where the pass catching element of this offense
[9:27] Speaker 3: wants to run through. Jackson Darton. We're going to get
[9:29] Speaker 3: onto a bit more about him in a moment. I
[9:31] Speaker 3: imagine he's got a big year ahead of him, and
[9:35] Speaker 3: they'd much much rather with a big year ahead of him.
[9:37] Speaker 4: He is number one guy on the field.
[9:39] Speaker 3: So hopefully we do hear more in the offseason, and
[9:42] Speaker 3: hopefully it's positive because he's a player you just love
[9:44] Speaker 3: to see play. But yeah, it's as long as he's
[9:48] Speaker 3: playing by the time they play internationally later in the year,
[9:50] Speaker 3: then we'll.
[9:50] Speaker 2: Staff you are a selfish bastard.
[9:54] Speaker 1: Will I now put the ads at him just based
[9:58] Speaker 1: on that quote and the far hollow up surgery, everything
[10:01] Speaker 1: we've heard, I think it's unlikely he's starting the season
[10:04] Speaker 1: out there. And when he says great that he's not
[10:06] Speaker 1: on the field, I do hope and think he's alluding
[10:10] Speaker 1: to we're thinking about Malik Neighbors long term and this
[10:13] Speaker 1: could be something where he is not truly one hundred
[10:15] Speaker 1: percent this season even and that he's going to miss
[10:19] Speaker 1: some real time, which is disappointing, but it happens.
[10:22] Speaker 2: Another big injury for the Giants.
[10:24] Speaker 1: They lost Roy Robertson Harris to a torn achilles hate.
[10:28] Speaker 1: When these injuries happened during the off season, program OTA's
[10:31] Speaker 1: working out. Not a familiar name to a lot of
[10:34] Speaker 1: people out there, but he was slated to start. He
[10:37] Speaker 1: essentially had a starting type role last year. They did
[10:40] Speaker 1: sign a number of kind of stop gap veterans at
[10:44] Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Shelby Harris, DJ Reader is a good player
[10:48] Speaker 1: as a nose, Teckle Leaky Fotu has played a lot.
[10:50] Speaker 2: In the NFL.
[10:51] Speaker 1: But those guys in aggregate we're supposed to help replace
[10:55] Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence, Roy Robertson Harris was the guy that they
[10:58] Speaker 1: inherited from last year. Was probably the best player of
[11:00] Speaker 1: that entire group. So now you tradeed away Dexter Lawrence,
[11:05] Speaker 1: you lose a Corps veteran for the season. Suddenly that
[11:08] Speaker 1: run defense, which already on paper didn't look great, looks
[11:12] Speaker 1: even worse. Abdul Carter not known for his run defense,
[11:15] Speaker 1: but now he's known for mixing it up. In terms
[11:19] Speaker 1: of social media, you alluded to Jackson Dart. The biggest
[11:24] Speaker 1: news on a pretty quiet NFL weekend, Let's be real,
[11:28] Speaker 1: was Jackson Dart introducing our president over here. You might
[11:32] Speaker 1: be familiar, will Donald Trump had a rally for some
[11:36] Speaker 1: congressman yet and you know it's just typical. He introduces
[11:41] Speaker 1: Donald Trump and a lot of people get excited about
[11:46] Speaker 1: it or annoyed about it, and then Abdul Carter jumps
[11:49] Speaker 1: in and.
[11:50] Speaker 2: He has the tweet. I thought this was ai man,
[11:54] Speaker 2: what are we doing here?
[11:57] Speaker 1: Later on he responded to a lot of people getting
[12:00] Speaker 1: upset about it, saying, me and JD six referring to
[12:04] Speaker 1: Jackson Dirt didn't know he was called JD six are good.
[12:07] Speaker 1: We spoke earlier as men. Y'all can keep y'all narratives.
[12:12] Speaker 1: And that was in response to a reporter, Benvollin of
[12:17] Speaker 1: the Boston Globes specifically, who was like, oh, there could
[12:19] Speaker 1: be dissension. There's dissension in the Giants locker room. That's well,
[12:25] Speaker 1: you know, from a sober international perspective on us, what's
[12:29] Speaker 1: happening over here.
[12:30] Speaker 3: Look, the moment Jackson's art turns up at that rally,
[12:33] Speaker 3: it makes international news, regardless of whether you're a Giants fan,
[12:37] Speaker 3: an NFL fan, or anything else, because it's a major
[12:39] Speaker 3: sports style turning up a political rally for a guy
[12:42] Speaker 3: who you know, causes some controversies. It's fair to say.
[12:45] Speaker 3: So when I saw the absol Cart tweet, I did.
[12:49] Speaker 3: My immediate jump was, you know, raised eyes, sending imoss
[12:53] Speaker 3: to people firing around and being like, do you think
[12:55] Speaker 3: this is an actual issue? It feels like off season fourder.
[12:59] Speaker 3: It feels like the kind of thing will get past.
[13:01] Speaker 3: It feels like the kind of thing that John Harball
[13:03] Speaker 3: squash out. But the fact that apple Cart was so
[13:06] Speaker 3: open and immediate in his response to it, he might say,
[13:11] Speaker 3: we're all good and we're all cool, and we've spoken
[13:13] Speaker 3: about it, but I don't know, it doesn't feel like.
[13:16] Speaker 3: It feels like it's gonna have to be a let's
[13:17] Speaker 3: keep politics out of the locker room thing rather than
[13:19] Speaker 3: they're actually suddenly best friends.
[13:21] Speaker 4: Because it's quite a big move to make, I guess.
[13:26] Speaker 1: I mean, look, anyone who listens to this show knows
[13:30] Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of Jackson Dart's politics or Dottal Trump.
[13:34] Speaker 2: But John Harbaugh Jim Harbaugh have literally been at the
[13:38] Speaker 2: White House with Trump like they are.
[13:41] Speaker 1: They are vocal supporters of Trump, all these players, it's
[13:45] Speaker 1: pretty obvious with you know who they support, who they
[13:48] Speaker 1: don't if they want to be out there. I know
[13:50] Speaker 1: it's a different step to introduce him, but this is
[13:53] Speaker 1: an NFL locker room. Of course, a lot of the
[13:57] Speaker 1: locker room supports the president, and plenty of the locker
[14:00] Speaker 1: room does it, and plenty.
[14:01] Speaker 2: Is aware of that.
[14:02] Speaker 1: To me, it is it is kind of juvenile for
[14:06] Speaker 1: the reporters who are like John Harbor is going to
[14:09] Speaker 1: have to address this is going to be a big problem.
[14:11] Speaker 2: It's like this, they're grown men. This is not a
[14:14] Speaker 2: new phenomenon. Believe me.
[14:15] Speaker 1: Everyone in the locker room probably you know, has an
[14:18] Speaker 1: idea of where Jackson Dart like lies politically, and if
[14:21] Speaker 1: they're like getting along personally.
[14:24] Speaker 2: It's it's just I don't know.
[14:27] Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be it might be off season storm
[14:29] Speaker 3: in a tea cup. It might absolutely be that. But
[14:32] Speaker 3: I just think for Abdol Carter to speak out for
[14:33] Speaker 3: a guy who is very much a forefront of this,
[14:37] Speaker 3: of this team as well, it's that just that was
[14:39] Speaker 3: what felt like a big deal to me. Not the bear,
[14:42] Speaker 3: you know, the fact that they're going to have to
[14:44] Speaker 3: all get on with each other. There's yeah, there's seventy
[14:46] Speaker 3: five guys in that locker room. There's however, many coaches
[14:49] Speaker 3: as well, like, yeah, they of course there's going to
[14:52] Speaker 3: be to said amongst them, But I don't think it's
[14:54] Speaker 3: going to be some issue that carries over into the season.
[14:56] Speaker 1: The funny thing is I do feel strongly in a
[14:59] Speaker 1: way about this, and that's about the people that are
[15:03] Speaker 1: like aggressively, Oh, this doesn't bother me.
[15:07] Speaker 2: I'm a political like I don't care about anything. Doesn't
[15:11] Speaker 2: bother me. What people say, grow up, the grown up
[15:15] Speaker 2: perspective is like, yeah, like some people really support it.
[15:19] Speaker 2: It's fine.
[15:19] Speaker 1: It's totally fine for Jackson Dart no matter I disagree obviously,
[15:24] Speaker 1: to do what he wants to do there, and it's
[15:26] Speaker 1: fine for someone to disagree. It's like, yeah, that's that's
[15:30] Speaker 1: living in this country, living in this world right now.
[15:33] Speaker 2: It's just like it's fine. Adults can disagree about things.
[15:36] Speaker 3: We are covering a lot of American culture within the
[15:42] Speaker 3: World Cup conversation, right Like, obviously football, soccer is the
[15:45] Speaker 3: number one sport here.
[15:46] Speaker 4: I've been doing a like a soccer based show over.
[15:50] Speaker 2: The line, I was gonna pump it up. Let me
[15:51] Speaker 2: cut you off so you don't have to. I was
[15:54] Speaker 2: gonna at the end of the show.
[15:55] Speaker 1: Will is Uh just launched a great podcast YouTube show.
[16:01] Speaker 1: It's on talkSPORT The s Word with Master Tefsfatsian, who
[16:06] Speaker 1: a great friend of Jordan rod Rieg's on the show. Great,
[16:09] Speaker 1: great journalists over here, and so people should be checking
[16:12] Speaker 1: that out in addition to all the great work you
[16:14] Speaker 1: do on the NFL.
[16:15] Speaker 3: Will I appreciate that, brother, but sorry, obviously no, no,
[16:18] Speaker 3: I appreciate it, But obviously you can't help but get
[16:21] Speaker 3: into the politics of the football, the Donald Trump of it,
[16:24] Speaker 3: all the you know, everything else that goes along with it.
[16:27] Speaker 3: And so I think we are set for a summer
[16:29] Speaker 3: where the conversation of politics in sport is going to
[16:32] Speaker 3: really dominate the landscape internationally. And so I think this
[16:36] Speaker 3: will disappear very quickly.
[16:38] Speaker 1: Yes, and it's a it's a little more tight wait
[16:42] Speaker 1: when it comes to the World Cup and everything that
[16:44] Speaker 1: Trump and FIFA and uh yeah, good, good luck with
[16:47] Speaker 1: all that. Our next item, it was gonna be our
[16:49] Speaker 1: last item, by the way, it was going to be
[16:52] Speaker 1: our fifteenth item of the day was Robert Sala telling
[16:56] Speaker 1: the Titans media that one of the first things that
[16:59] Speaker 1: he did as Titan's head coach was get rid of
[17:02] Speaker 1: seed oils in the locker room. But I do feel
[17:05] Speaker 1: like this there is a connection here. Jfk Jr.
[17:10] Speaker 4: Excited to hear this, right, okay.
[17:11] Speaker 2: Jfk Jr.
[17:12] Speaker 1: Very again, seed oils Eric, our producer, notes that we're
[17:17] Speaker 1: talking about political rallies and seed oils in the rundown,
[17:21] Speaker 1: which is an indication that football might not be back.
[17:23] Speaker 2: Actually football be back.
[17:26] Speaker 3: You attack those inflammatory markers, Bob Sala, and it's a
[17:30] Speaker 3: game of inches. Anything that's going to get you over
[17:32] Speaker 3: the line or your micro optimization nonsense.
[17:36] Speaker 1: All I'm saying is when all the well, when the
[17:38] Speaker 1: doctors and the medical the health professionals are like, no,
[17:42] Speaker 1: seed oils are totally fine, Like Sala, I'm just putting
[17:46] Speaker 1: them into the bucket.
[17:47] Speaker 2: It's like the bucket of.
[17:48] Speaker 1: Guys who got really into NFTs back in the day.
[17:52] Speaker 2: Let's get back to the football. Big contract.
[17:54] Speaker 1: Jack Campbell signed with the Lions four years, eighty one
[18:00] Speaker 1: million dollar extension fifty one point five million dollars guaranteed
[18:05] Speaker 1: for the linebacker just going into his fourth season. You
[18:08] Speaker 1: think back to that draft will and the picks that
[18:13] Speaker 1: the Lions said everyone reached on at the time, Jamir
[18:17] Speaker 1: Gibbs in Jack Campbell and back then the idea was like, well,
[18:21] Speaker 1: if you just flipped the picks and you put Brian
[18:23] Speaker 1: Branch in the first round, who was their other great
[18:25] Speaker 1: second round pick that I'm spacing on at the moment.
[18:29] Speaker 1: Then if you just flipped the picks, everyone would have said,
[18:32] Speaker 1: it's totally fine. Well, in the end, they took Jack
[18:34] Speaker 1: Campbell and Jamior Gibbs in the exact right spot. There
[18:37] Speaker 1: are two of the best players at their position, and
[18:39] Speaker 1: he has signed through twenty thirty.
[18:41] Speaker 2: Give the Lions some love.
[18:43] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny you said that, because I was about
[18:45] Speaker 3: to sit here and say it's funny that people will
[18:48] Speaker 3: still knock that. Sam Laporte was the other guy they
[18:50] Speaker 3: took in the second round, of course, and it was
[18:52] Speaker 3: always one of those things to me where if Jack
[18:54] Speaker 3: Campbell had been a second round pick and performed as
[18:56] Speaker 3: he'd done and had the career he had, everyone would
[18:59] Speaker 3: have herald did it as a sensational draft picker. He's
[19:02] Speaker 3: such a great guy. He's such a great fit for
[19:04] Speaker 3: the scheme. He's such a great fit for the locker
[19:06] Speaker 3: room and for Dan Campbell. They absolutely love him in
[19:09] Speaker 3: that building. He's very no nonsense football. I've had an
[19:11] Speaker 3: opportunity to chat to Jack Campbell a couple of times, actually,
[19:14] Speaker 3: like he's a guy the Lions have put up for
[19:16] Speaker 3: us a couple of times before and if you talked
[19:18] Speaker 3: to him about football, he's one of He's a great
[19:21] Speaker 3: interview because he just loves talking x's and o's, and
[19:24] Speaker 3: you know, I've got a huge amount of time for him.
[19:27] Speaker 3: It's when you start to look at the numbers and
[19:29] Speaker 3: you say, like, he's only in guaranteed money behind the
[19:32] Speaker 3: likes of Fred Warner and Rokan Smith. He's only in
[19:35] Speaker 3: overall money behind Rocan Smith because Fred Warner's deal was
[19:38] Speaker 3: only three years. Like, those sound like huge numbers, but
[19:41] Speaker 3: we're talking about guys that are twenty nine, thirty years old.
[19:44] Speaker 3: Jack Campbell still in his mid twenties, there's only that
[19:47] Speaker 3: second contract's got a lot of time there.
[19:49] Speaker 4: He's really great at what he does.
[19:51] Speaker 3: I think this is as much as it sounds like
[19:53] Speaker 3: a lot of money, I think, and it's a real
[19:54] Speaker 3: win for the line.
[19:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[19:55] Speaker 1: I mean I'd rather have Jack Campbell than rok On Smith,
[19:58] Speaker 1: no question. I mean, he was a better player last year.
[20:01] Speaker 1: It kind of slipped on me that he was first
[20:04] Speaker 1: team All Pro last year, but his rate of improvement
[20:07] Speaker 1: is really why you got to be careful with off
[20:09] Speaker 1: ball linebackers, specifically as rookies, because sometimes he looked a
[20:13] Speaker 1: little lost and covered. That as a tough position to get,
[20:16] Speaker 1: but he is so athletic. He is really the prototype
[20:21] Speaker 1: of the three down linebacker that can do everything, and
[20:24] Speaker 1: he's gotten so much better. He was a playmaker in
[20:27] Speaker 1: his third season and also is just kind of taking
[20:29] Speaker 1: control of that room. I remember Dan Campbell this offseason
[20:31] Speaker 1: when they talked about letting Alex Azeloni go. He said
[20:36] Speaker 1: it was in part not that Jack Campbell's changing positions,
[20:38] Speaker 1: but it's just like that's Jack Campbell's room. We want
[20:41] Speaker 1: him to be the dude. And so what they did
[20:44] Speaker 1: was they they didn't give him the fifth year option.
[20:46] Speaker 1: They did give him the huge money and I assume
[20:50] Speaker 1: it's essentially almost like a two year or three year
[20:52] Speaker 1: deal with a lot of the money guaranteed. So good
[20:54] Speaker 1: on the Lions and Jack Campbell. They just got to
[20:56] Speaker 1: start hitting in the draft. Are you high or low
[20:58] Speaker 1: on the Lions heading and you twenty twenty six, they
[21:02] Speaker 1: do they win the division, putting you on the spout right.
[21:05] Speaker 3: That I really like the Bears to win the North again, actually,
[21:10] Speaker 3: but I'm higher on them than last year. They've corrected
[21:13] Speaker 3: a lot of the issues that they've had. I still
[21:16] Speaker 3: want to see what that line looks like. I still
[21:17] Speaker 3: want to see what the protection looks like. I still
[21:19] Speaker 3: want to see like I want to see it on
[21:21] Speaker 3: the field. But overall, I think like they are in
[21:23] Speaker 3: a position to at least be a playoff team this
[21:25] Speaker 3: year and not to just bring out cliches on a
[21:30] Speaker 3: hot summer's day. But you know, it's getting the dance
[21:32] Speaker 3: all of that stuff. So yeah, I think they've got
[21:33] Speaker 3: a great chance of a great season. But it's such
[21:36] Speaker 3: competitive division. Like you said to me that you like
[21:38] Speaker 3: the Packers for it, I couldn't knock it.
[21:40] Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm still trying to decide who I'm going
[21:42] Speaker 1: to end up picking that division. I'll definitely have them
[21:44] Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And yeah, with the extension, you always
[21:46] Speaker 1: get attack on the first year in the extension, so
[21:49] Speaker 1: then it's really five for eighty three. I think, actually
[21:51] Speaker 1: that's a contract that will age very well.
[21:54] Speaker 3: You're the king of the extension for me, by the way,
[21:56] Speaker 3: like you are the guy who knocks I like at
[21:58] Speaker 3: this end, whenever I do ask show, I am like,
[22:01] Speaker 3: it's like it's an extension. It's not a four year
[22:04] Speaker 3: X contract. It say six year X contract. And therefore
[22:07] Speaker 3: he's actually only the seventh most well paid corner in
[22:10] Speaker 3: the market or whatever it might be.
[22:11] Speaker 1: Got to think about that, thanks for spreading the esoteric
[22:15] Speaker 1: gospel oh across the globe. Oh yeah, Jacoby Brissett is
[22:19] Speaker 1: looking for more money.
[22:20] Speaker 2: Do about six million dollars.
[22:23] Speaker 1: I don't know if we need to talk much about
[22:25] Speaker 1: this week hit that he is holding out, but he
[22:26] Speaker 1: is not showing up for OTAs and ESPN.
[22:30] Speaker 2: Their their local reporter.
[22:31] Speaker 1: They're reported that he's significantly far apart in contract talks.
[22:36] Speaker 1: So people keep making fun of this holdout. It is
[22:38] Speaker 1: having no signs of letting up. Let's go to what
[22:41] Speaker 1: I'm calling vic Fangio corner. A couple little items from
[22:46] Speaker 1: Vic Fango, who spoke.
[22:47] Speaker 2: To the media. Think he's what sixty seven years young now,
[22:51] Speaker 2: had just like a good football nugget, which is that
[22:53] Speaker 2: they're going to move Cooper de Gene back to safety
[22:57] Speaker 2: in base formations. That's that's what he was more commonly
[23:00] Speaker 2: as a rookie.
[23:01] Speaker 1: And then he's in the slot like he's when they're
[23:03] Speaker 1: in nickel, which is basically their main formation.
[23:06] Speaker 2: You know, he is going to be in the slots.
[23:07] Speaker 1: I don't think much changes, but they do not want
[23:10] Speaker 1: him to be playing outside cornerback. They have They have
[23:13] Speaker 1: Rek Woollen there now potentially in that spot. It's just
[23:17] Speaker 1: a little nugget. Let's actually listen to Vic Fangio too,
[23:21] Speaker 1: asked about the reports that he was potentially retiring this offseason.
[23:25] Speaker 6: No, I wasn't close. You know, I've had those thoughts,
[23:29] Speaker 6: you know, the last few years. Every year at the
[23:31] Speaker 6: end of the year, I just think about it, you know,
[23:33] Speaker 6: and I never really got serious to where I would
[23:37] Speaker 6: have done it. And you know, it's no different than
[23:42] Speaker 6: I did after twenty four season, after twenty three season.
[23:48] Speaker 6: I mean, I told the players the other day that,
[23:51] Speaker 6: you know, we had our annual physical we get physicals
[23:55] Speaker 6: as coaches, and the docs told me I was reverse
[23:57] Speaker 6: aging with my lab work and everything that came up.
[24:02] Speaker 6: So I told them, you guys are stuck with me
[24:04] Speaker 6: for a while long while.
[24:06] Speaker 2: I believe it. I don't know if it's the hat.
[24:08] Speaker 1: Jordan calls it hat fishing sometimes with yeah, yeah, without
[24:12] Speaker 1: a lot of hat. You know, here like Vic looking
[24:14] Speaker 1: young there in the baseball cap, which is great news.
[24:17] Speaker 2: For the Eagles.
[24:18] Speaker 3: It's not a lot of issues with the hair around
[24:21] Speaker 3: these parts. Greg of course, too fine heads of hair
[24:24] Speaker 3: on this podcast right now. Yeah, I mean if vangeistics
[24:28] Speaker 3: around there, then the Eagles have got a chance of
[24:30] Speaker 3: being a top defense again this season. And yeah, I
[24:33] Speaker 3: think we're all expecting, well or hoping that Jormnion will
[24:36] Speaker 3: offer something a bit different on offense and we'll see
[24:39] Speaker 3: a big jump. Like you know, last year, I was
[24:42] Speaker 3: there in Philly for that playoff game against the forty
[24:44] Speaker 3: nine ers. It turned ugly very quickly there, and I
[24:49] Speaker 3: don't think it's going to take a huge amount for
[24:51] Speaker 3: them to take a step back forward and be a
[24:52] Speaker 3: real contender again.
[24:53] Speaker 2: So not ugly for you.
[24:55] Speaker 1: You're a Niners fan trying to pretend that you were impartial?
[24:59] Speaker 2: How did that work?
[25:01] Speaker 3: I well, I mean not brilliantly, but I got away
[25:04] Speaker 3: with it. I think there is the video of the
[25:07] Speaker 3: final moments where I where I absolutely lose my mind.
[25:11] Speaker 4: I'm just doing the normal thing.
[25:12] Speaker 3: But you do see that there are some Niners team
[25:14] Speaker 3: representatives behind me who are actually properly high fiving and
[25:18] Speaker 3: you know, celebrating a win where I'm trying to at.
[25:21] Speaker 4: Least act a little bit professional.
[25:23] Speaker 3: The Kooper Degine things funny because I just think all
[25:25] Speaker 3: they're basically saying, is Cooper Degine's going to be on
[25:27] Speaker 3: the field no matter what. Yes, we're playing that's that's
[25:30] Speaker 3: basically it's like we're going to play him as a
[25:32] Speaker 3: safety because he's not coming off the field like just
[25:36] Speaker 3: I think they play, they'll play nickel. I won't surprise.
[25:38] Speaker 3: It's seventy five eighty percent at the time. But if
[25:41] Speaker 3: we go into base Cooper Cooper plays. That's as simple
[25:43] Speaker 3: as that.
[25:45] Speaker 1: I think his second season was underrated because you know,
[25:47] Speaker 1: that's a position we talk about is so volatile, and
[25:50] Speaker 1: yet he built on what he did as a rookie.
[25:55] Speaker 1: It's early days yet, but I mean there's there's a
[25:57] Speaker 1: chance he could get better and then we're starting to
[26:01] Speaker 1: get into when you look at the first three years
[26:03] Speaker 1: of his career, really special territory. So one of the
[26:06] Speaker 1: things I'm really excited about the Eagles. Another assistant coach
[26:12] Speaker 1: talking last week was over the weekend was Bear's QB
[26:16] Speaker 1: coach JT. Barrett, who said he wanted quote fewer quote
[26:21] Speaker 1: crazy plays from Caleb Williams, and I decided to use
[26:25] Speaker 1: this as a quick talker, and I know we got
[26:27] Speaker 1: to get you out of that hot room there, although
[26:30] Speaker 1: it's working. Yeah, like it's like thirty three degrees Celsius
[26:34] Speaker 1: over there, like it's mid nineties. It's crazy. You are
[26:37] Speaker 1: the second straight ginger beard on the show though, by
[26:40] Speaker 1: the way, after Chuck Klosterman, and I don't know how
[26:43] Speaker 1: you feel, like, do you feel threatened?
[26:45] Speaker 3: I feel in no way threatened because we're doing this
[26:48] Speaker 3: new studio. I'm also still wearing studio makeup and have
[26:51] Speaker 3: my head done by professionals, so I'm feeling maybe the.
[26:54] Speaker 4: Best I've ever felt. Greg.
[26:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, you do.
[26:56] Speaker 3: Look I've dropped some pounds. I'm feeling good, So no
[26:59] Speaker 3: threat will.
[26:59] Speaker 2: So us You do look great. I'm good. It's so great.
[27:02] Speaker 1: I got to sidetracked here from the quotes about Caleb Williams.
[27:05] Speaker 1: I wanted to bring him up because I really like Men,
[27:08] Speaker 1: a chime show featuring Lenny She had Ben Solek on.
[27:10] Speaker 1: Last week they did QB ringings. I told everyone go
[27:12] Speaker 1: check out in Nate Tyson's show Football three oh one
[27:15] Speaker 1: on Yahoo, I contributed with him and Bill Barnow. We
[27:17] Speaker 1: did the QB ranks, and I think Caleb Williams was
[27:19] Speaker 1: one of the most interesting conversations to have and his
[27:23] Speaker 1: assistant coach kind of talked about why he's a difficult
[27:25] Speaker 1: guy to talk about.
[27:26] Speaker 2: Here's some quotes from me.
[27:27] Speaker 1: He said, he's told Caleb Williams, my guy, I know,
[27:30] Speaker 1: you just made this crazy play that was really cool,
[27:33] Speaker 1: but we had a guy come open, wide open underneath that.
[27:36] Speaker 2: You just pop it. You pop it to him.
[27:39] Speaker 1: He does the running instead of Caleb, and now you're
[27:41] Speaker 1: not as tired. Later, Barrett said, we can be efficient
[27:45] Speaker 1: and take what the defense is giving. You don't necessarily
[27:48] Speaker 1: have to put the cape on and make those crazy
[27:50] Speaker 1: plays because you were already killing them in the first
[27:54] Speaker 1: three quarters. If you do that, and his stats really
[27:58] Speaker 1: reflect that. I'm curius of your thoughts of where Caleb
[28:02] Speaker 1: kind of fits in the landscape and this idea from
[28:05] Speaker 1: the coaching staff of they want him to be a
[28:08] Speaker 1: little more of a consistent, safer Caleb.
[28:11] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the dream, right.
[28:12] Speaker 3: It's if you don't need to lead six fourth quarter
[28:16] Speaker 3: comebacks in a season, if you're already winning games handily,
[28:20] Speaker 3: Like I think that's a fair comment.
[28:23] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[28:24] Speaker 3: The problem is is fans just love those moments, you know,
[28:28] Speaker 3: whether it's in the playoffs, whether it's those big comebacks
[28:31] Speaker 3: we had later in games through the season, and so yeah,
[28:34] Speaker 3: I don't want to lose that part of Caleb Williams.
[28:36] Speaker 4: It's what makes him a real joy.
[28:37] Speaker 3: And actually, I think, kind of versus a few other
[28:39] Speaker 3: guys in the league who are capable of those throws,
[28:41] Speaker 3: who are capable of making those those crazy plays, as
[28:45] Speaker 3: they say, I think he hits them at a higher
[28:46] Speaker 3: rate than a lot of guys. You know, love watching
[28:50] Speaker 3: Jordan Love play, but he didn't have a huge number
[28:52] Speaker 3: of fourth quarter comebacks last year because actually they missed
[28:55] Speaker 3: a lot of those moments. So yes, of course you
[28:59] Speaker 3: want to have him being out there, being sensible, throwing
[29:02] Speaker 3: the underneath throw, letting guys do their jobs.
[29:04] Speaker 4: But I don't know the.
[29:07] Speaker 3: Less purest more football fan wanting those huge moments. It's
[29:12] Speaker 3: not my quarterback, So yeah, let him go out there.
[29:14] Speaker 1: And well, yeah, I just think it's the balance, and
[29:18] Speaker 1: I think you hopefully keep getting those moments. I think
[29:21] Speaker 1: they're almost assuming those moments aren't going to go a
[29:24] Speaker 1: way completely. But it really hit me because they had
[29:27] Speaker 1: that first Packers Bears game on NFL Network last week
[29:32] Speaker 1: as I was prepping for that QB show, and you
[29:35] Speaker 1: kind of forget. Oh yeah, Caleb was having a miserable
[29:38] Speaker 1: game through fifty one minutes and then goes super nova
[29:45] Speaker 1: at the end of regulation in overtime, and you love that,
[29:47] Speaker 1: but you kind of are like, oh, there's all these
[29:49] Speaker 1: open receivers early and he's having a terrible game, and
[29:52] Speaker 1: then he saves it and that was the magic of it.
[29:54] Speaker 1: And it really is reflected in his numbers. He's so
[29:57] Speaker 1: bad in terms of completion percentage over expect did one
[30:00] Speaker 1: of the worst in the entire NFL, pretty bad in
[30:03] Speaker 1: success rate, and yet he absolutely deserved to be on
[30:08] Speaker 1: QB Island at the end of the season because QB
[30:10] Speaker 1: islan we're talking about who defined the position. He defined
[30:13] Speaker 1: the position because he made it happen when it mattered.
[30:16] Speaker 1: And I had a Packers fan getting at me at
[30:18] Speaker 1: the mention it's like, well, you didn't have Caleb Williams
[30:22] Speaker 1: on QB. You know you took like we took Jordan
[30:25] Speaker 1: Love on both those draft Like I had Jordan Love
[30:27] Speaker 1: ranked higher than Caleb Williams, but I didn't have him
[30:30] Speaker 1: on QB Island. But that was about how he played
[30:32] Speaker 1: last year. He's just a little more trustworthy of what
[30:35] Speaker 1: I'm going to get this year because I haven't seen
[30:37] Speaker 1: it from Caleb year after year, play after play.
[30:40] Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's exactly what I agree with. That's exactly
[30:43] Speaker 3: how I would say. I'd have Jordan Love ranked higher
[30:45] Speaker 3: when we've done ours as well. I think we alled
[30:47] Speaker 3: you to do ours in the coming weeks because we
[30:49] Speaker 3: don't want to do it too close to a night's
[30:51] Speaker 3: or mean, is there anyone else, just as people will
[30:53] Speaker 3: notice that we know less of what we're talking about.
[30:56] Speaker 3: It's easier to steal from thost people if you give
[30:58] Speaker 3: it a few weeks afterwards and repeat what they the
[31:01] Speaker 3: great stuff that they've said. But yeah, you mentioned it,
[31:03] Speaker 3: fifty eight point one percent completion percentage, you dropped down
[31:07] Speaker 3: to minus six point nine dpoe, which, as you mentioned
[31:11] Speaker 3: as well, like that's that's bad. But he was winning
[31:14] Speaker 3: games of football and took them to the playoffs. Think
[31:16] Speaker 3: a lot of Bears fans don't mind that necessarily, I
[31:18] Speaker 3: think in Ben Johnson's scheme. And it's another thing. A
[31:22] Speaker 3: lot of coach ranking has been going on this year,
[31:24] Speaker 3: and it's been amazing to see just how high like
[31:26] Speaker 3: he's being talked about as a top three, top four
[31:28] Speaker 3: guy in the League already after one year. If Ben
[31:32] Speaker 3: Johnson is the genius that everyone thinks he is, and
[31:34] Speaker 3: I'm on that same page as well, then I'd expect
[31:37] Speaker 3: the easy.
[31:38] Speaker 4: Button to get pushed more often.
[31:39] Speaker 3: For Haleb Williams, I'd expect those throws to come more often,
[31:42] Speaker 3: and I think those stats will grow and we'll see
[31:44] Speaker 3: maybe a little bit more sensible.
[31:46] Speaker 1: But I had him, i think twelfth on my personal
[31:49] Speaker 1: rankings in again, and I'm surprised that I was the
[31:55] Speaker 1: analyst that the wind up taken him in my draft
[31:58] Speaker 1: with Naton Bill and he thought the way to fourteenth,
[32:01] Speaker 1: which is interesting. Ben Solak and Mina do it over
[32:04] Speaker 1: the next three years and he, you know, Ben ends
[32:06] Speaker 1: up taking him eighth. That's a little bit different of
[32:07] Speaker 1: an exercise. We're just looking at next season specifically, but
[32:11] Speaker 1: it's interesting, you know, to see where he goes from here.
[32:14] Speaker 1: I think he's going to start hitting some of those
[32:16] Speaker 1: easy things. The Bears do not hit the easy thing
[32:19] Speaker 1: when it comes to the stadium. Just want to mention
[32:22] Speaker 1: our tenth point here is that the Bears have you know,
[32:25] Speaker 1: reiterated publicly, they've quote exhausted every available avenue of staying
[32:30] Speaker 1: in Chicago, and the stadium is either going to be
[32:33] Speaker 1: in Indiana or Arlington Heights, which is in Illinois. So
[32:36] Speaker 1: that's a thing that is apparently actually going to happen.
[32:41] Speaker 1: The Seahawks and Devin Witherspoon are working on a new contract,
[32:46] Speaker 1: according to ESPN, but reportedly far apart on numbers. Nothing
[32:52] Speaker 1: to worry about too much. He is someone who they
[32:54] Speaker 1: picked the fifth year option up. Be a little trickier,
[32:57] Speaker 1: but you know, Jackson Smith and Jigga gets the top
[33:00] Speaker 1: of the market, maybe the Seahcs aren't quite willing to
[33:02] Speaker 1: get to the very tippy top of the market yet.
[33:04] Speaker 1: With Devin Witherspoon, what have you thought about his kind
[33:07] Speaker 1: of development as a procest far?
[33:09] Speaker 3: Oh, he's a joy to watch, and you know, we
[33:11] Speaker 3: saw just how dominant he was through that playoff run.
[33:14] Speaker 3: But this is, you know, the when the Seahawks based
[33:19] Speaker 3: their whole off season when they had money and they
[33:22] Speaker 3: didn't have a lot of draft picks, but they elected
[33:24] Speaker 3: not to keep their own guys around in a lot
[33:26] Speaker 3: of cases, obviously the most obvious example of that being
[33:29] Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker, but a lot of their guys on the
[33:31] Speaker 3: back end and the past rush as well, they made
[33:33] Speaker 3: big choices to let the guys who had got them
[33:37] Speaker 3: to where they got go, and a lot of it
[33:38] Speaker 3: was based off these two extensions, off JSN and off
[33:41] Speaker 3: Devin Witherspoon. So I think Withtherspoon probably knows or his
[33:44] Speaker 3: agent knows more than that, that he is in a
[33:47] Speaker 3: pretty strong negotiating position here, and I expect when that
[33:50] Speaker 3: contract comes out, I would be surprised if he's not
[33:53] Speaker 3: the top paid corner in the NFL, at least until
[33:57] Speaker 3: the next guy gets paid. But you know, I think
[34:00] Speaker 3: you're a top ten guy at any position essentially when
[34:02] Speaker 3: your contract comes up, you almost expect to be the
[34:04] Speaker 3: number one when it comes to the contract because that's
[34:06] Speaker 3: just how it works with this increasing salary cap. Right,
[34:10] Speaker 3: if he gets top three money, top five money, he's
[34:13] Speaker 3: definitely in that conversation, So I'd say deserves it.
[34:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, he's more of a slot guy,
[34:19] Speaker 1: and it's like, can can a slot guy make as
[34:22] Speaker 1: much as as a Patrick?
[34:23] Speaker 2: Certain?
[34:23] Speaker 1: I bet that's what his agent is looking for. A
[34:27] Speaker 1: couple of other items here. Another offseason injury. The Texans
[34:30] Speaker 1: lost their linebacker EJ. Speed to a partially born quadricep.
[34:37] Speaker 1: They gave him seven point five million dollars guaranteed this
[34:40] Speaker 1: offseason on a two year deal. He's more of like
[34:42] Speaker 1: they're kind of super sub on at linebacker, maybe a
[34:46] Speaker 1: third linebacker and special teamer, but a guy they valued
[34:49] Speaker 1: enough to give that much money. He could return this season,
[34:53] Speaker 1: but that's a very serious injury.
[34:56] Speaker 2: PFT.
[34:57] Speaker 1: My old boss Mike Florio reported that, according to a source,
[35:01] Speaker 1: a eighteen game season is quote extremely unlikely for twenty
[35:06] Speaker 1: twenty seven. Yeah, yeah, I should hope. So that's next year.
[35:08] Speaker 1: But interesting that that's even out there because the NFL
[35:12] Speaker 1: hasn't put a date on next season's Super Bowl. But
[35:18] Speaker 1: as much as the NFL would maybe like to extend
[35:20] Speaker 1: the season, good news, I think for me and you
[35:23] Speaker 1: that it's not happening this early because if they do
[35:25] Speaker 1: add an eighteenth week, they're also going to add probably
[35:27] Speaker 1: another bye week, and that super Bowl is roughly like
[35:31] Speaker 1: February twenty seventh, something like that.
[35:33] Speaker 4: Well, it's it's it's a cumbination, right.
[35:36] Speaker 3: It's yes, an extra bye week, Yes, an extra game
[35:38] Speaker 3: week in a game as well, But do they bring
[35:41] Speaker 3: the season forward like I think they would love for
[35:44] Speaker 3: it to land, You know, this year you've got landing
[35:48] Speaker 3: on a holiday weekend? Right, which holidays in mid February.
[35:50] Speaker 3: Excuse my Britishness for forgetting President's Day?
[35:54] Speaker 2: How dare you are? Or or was it Valentine's Day?
[35:57] Speaker 3: That also sometimes when it literally lands, but more I
[36:01] Speaker 3: meant that the third Monday in February being presidents yes right?
[36:05] Speaker 1: So yes, also my birthday sometimes every once in a
[36:08] Speaker 1: while it is, you know, myself and Chris Westling and
[36:11] Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's birthday, So that would be fun for us.
[36:13] Speaker 3: What I think they'd really love to have happened is
[36:16] Speaker 3: that the opening weekend is on Labor Day weekend, the
[36:20] Speaker 3: super Bowl is on President's Day weekend. They can take
[36:23] Speaker 3: over holidays like they have done Christmas and Thanksgiving and
[36:26] Speaker 3: add games to Wednesdays and everything else. But I think
[36:30] Speaker 3: the big loss could end up being with all of these,
[36:33] Speaker 3: do you remove the Super Bowl by do you go
[36:36] Speaker 3: from Championship game to super Bowl the following weekend in
[36:39] Speaker 3: order to make the season work?
[36:40] Speaker 1: Don't hate it? In fact, I like it. Don't think
[36:44] Speaker 1: we need that week anymore. That week was sort of
[36:48] Speaker 1: built to drum up interest back in the day and
[36:52] Speaker 1: do all the media stuff that for the rest of
[36:56] Speaker 1: the time the America was not paying as close attention
[37:00] Speaker 1: into American football. They're paying attention now. Let's just use
[37:02] Speaker 1: that momentum. That week that's just dead and is the
[37:05] Speaker 1: senior ball week actually doesn't make much sense to me anymore.
[37:09] Speaker 1: It's not great for the players' bodies, but they you
[37:12] Speaker 1: know that's they get an extra bye week somewhere in
[37:15] Speaker 1: the season. It'd be good for our bodies.
[37:17] Speaker 3: If you move Opening Night to Tuesday, you send all
[37:20] Speaker 3: of us, you know, we all get a plane from
[37:22] Speaker 3: wherever the NFCNFC Championship game is together to the super
[37:26] Speaker 3: Bowl city. It'll be like a big, big migration across
[37:29] Speaker 3: And yeah, I think for me, if they want to
[37:33] Speaker 3: make it work, they might have to lose that because
[37:35] Speaker 3: two by weeks doesn't mean another thing. Though I've got
[37:37] Speaker 3: to represent and see. Eighteen games means another thing as well.
[37:39] Speaker 3: Flora has been bagging this for a while because of
[37:41] Speaker 3: that whole super Bowl date not been set yet. It's
[37:45] Speaker 3: all more international games. It's going to turn into a
[37:47] Speaker 3: sixteen game international season. I'm convinced that's.
[37:50] Speaker 2: Where it is gone, no doubt.
[37:52] Speaker 3: But I think I've seen the most backlash against an
[37:54] Speaker 3: international slate we've maybe ever seen, and I don't know
[37:57] Speaker 3: if you've talked about it, not in terms of the
[37:59] Speaker 3: quality of the slate, I mean pushed back from the
[38:01] Speaker 3: number of games and the amount that teams are going
[38:03] Speaker 3: out there. And it is interesting that I don't know
[38:07] Speaker 3: if you covered this bit of news on your show,
[38:09] Speaker 3: but they're One bit of international announcement that came out
[38:12] Speaker 3: of the owner's meetings is that teams can no longer
[38:16] Speaker 3: protect home games when they are playing international games. So
[38:19] Speaker 3: it used to be that you were able to pick
[38:21] Speaker 3: two home games and say you can't send those games abroad.
[38:24] Speaker 4: No more.
[38:25] Speaker 3: From next season, you will not be able to protect
[38:27] Speaker 3: those games. And so suddenly you know marquee matchups going abroad,
[38:30] Speaker 3: sixteen games a year. It's yeah, I'm basically gonna be
[38:35] Speaker 3: working full time as a commentator, so I'm.
[38:37] Speaker 4: Ready for it.
[38:37] Speaker 2: Good. I mean, people need to calm down.
[38:40] Speaker 1: There's seventeen regular season games. You can lose one, and
[38:44] Speaker 1: if it happens to be a good one, guess what.
[38:47] Speaker 1: You can still watch it on TV. It's better to
[38:49] Speaker 1: watch on TV than it is to go in person.
[38:52] Speaker 1: It's not like baseball, where I enjoyed, you know, a
[38:55] Speaker 1: beautiful sunset on Monday night, celebrating my Memorial Day as
[39:01] Speaker 1: my father in law is chanting Freddy, Freddy.
[39:05] Speaker 2: That's right.
[39:05] Speaker 1: I've completely turned into a Dodgers fan. The final item
[39:10] Speaker 1: on the news before we say goodbye is just a
[39:13] Speaker 1: quote from Clint Kubiak that I quite enjoyed talking about
[39:18] Speaker 1: brock Bower.
[39:19] Speaker 7: It's kind of a football robot in a good way.
[39:22] Speaker 7: He's a football robot from heaven. You know, he's a
[39:24] Speaker 7: Cadillac out there. We got to get the most out
[39:27] Speaker 7: of Brock. You know, whether wherever he goes. He's been
[39:30] Speaker 7: successful in college and high school, whatever, whoever's coached him.
[39:34] Speaker 7: So you know, I just can't say enough great things
[39:37] Speaker 7: about him. Love his work, ethic, He's a standard bear.
[39:40] Speaker 1: Not effusive at the podium, Clint Kubiak, but football robot
[39:44] Speaker 1: from heaven.
[39:45] Speaker 2: That's nice.
[39:46] Speaker 1: Then that's some nice wordplay, just odd too, and that
[39:50] Speaker 1: could stick. I might just call brock Bowers from now
[39:53] Speaker 1: on the football robot from Heaven.
[39:54] Speaker 4: I'm on board. I'm ready for it.
[39:56] Speaker 3: The new age of tight ends is upon us, and
[40:00] Speaker 3: brock Bauer could be the shining beacon at the top.
[40:02] Speaker 4: Of the Mountain.
[40:02] Speaker 1: I'm ready now he did make a mistake, you know,
[40:06] Speaker 1: that was clearly straight off the dome. You know, as
[40:08] Speaker 1: a writer, he immediately followed Clint, you know, Brock being
[40:12] Speaker 1: a football robot from heaven with that he's a Cadillac.
[40:15] Speaker 1: Well that's confusing, Like just just pick one now, now,
[40:19] Speaker 1: can't be you can't be a football robot from heaven
[40:23] Speaker 1: that is also a Cadillac. You could be driving a
[40:25] Speaker 1: Cadillac maybe as a transformer.
[40:28] Speaker 4: There you go, it's perfect.
[40:30] Speaker 2: I also like he's a standard bearer.
[40:32] Speaker 1: That's what will has become for this show and for
[40:38] Speaker 1: football internationally. So yeah, everyone check him out on Talk
[40:41] Speaker 1: Sport covering American football but also this summer and beyond
[40:47] Speaker 1: soccer better known as football everywhere else the s word
[40:50] Speaker 1: with with his buddy Master Tesfazian.
[40:55] Speaker 2: Appreciate you, well, we'll see it.
[40:56] Speaker 4: Appreciate you having me on.
[40:57] Speaker 3: This proves to all those people out there who thought
[41:00] Speaker 3: I wasn't going to still be doing the NFL. But
[41:01] Speaker 3: I'm still here. I'm still going to do it. That's
[41:05] Speaker 3: still my one true love.
[41:07] Speaker 1: You better be because I want to call that game
[41:09] Speaker 1: wherever they said me this year. It might be Munich.
[41:12] Speaker 1: We're we're we're looking at Munich, so possibly on to Munich.
[41:16] Speaker 1: Me will reliance the patriots.
[41:21] Speaker 4: Jamb Yeah, maybe we can convince them too.
[41:26] Speaker 2: We will be back in the studio.
[41:27] Speaker 1: Patrick Claiban will be there, big show, maybe another fun
[41:31] Speaker 1: surprise guest.
[41:32] Speaker 2: We're back to daily It's in the name. See you
[41:34] Speaker 2: next time.

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