# Teams that Could Draft Sorsby, Chip Watch and Other Minicamp Nugs

An episode of [NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/680904259), 17 Jun 2026, 39 min.

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Gregg Rosenthal and Patrick Claybon react to Brendan Sorsby entering the NFL's Supplemental Draft and discuss which teams could try and draft the quarterback. The guys also discuss Sean Payton getting a contract extension with the Broncos, give you an update on Chip Watch, give you an update on Justin Herbert and Ladd McConkey's heal, and remember Aldon Smith. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:04] Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're ready to crank up
[0:08] Speaker 1: that supplemental mock draft coming. I'm Greg Rossethal here in
[0:12] Speaker 1: the Chris Wesley podcast studio with my friend Patrick Clayband.
[0:15] Speaker 1: Appreciated everyone who checked out and enjoyed the Flag Football
[0:19] Speaker 1: Extravaganza on Monday.
[0:21] Speaker 2: If not, go check it out.
[0:22] Speaker 1: But for today's show, Patrick, we're diving back into the news.
[0:27] Speaker 1: A lot to catch up on, including what's going to
[0:30] Speaker 1: be our first supplemental draft. It appears in seven years.
[0:34] Speaker 1: Do you know what the supplemental draft is? Yeah, guys
[0:37] Speaker 1: get left out of the process. Maybe you know something
[0:40] Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily work out. There's a supplemental an extra and
[0:44] Speaker 1: adendum to the NFL draft where you can utilize your
[0:48] Speaker 1: pick value on one of these players. And generally it
[0:53] Speaker 1: hasn't been worth it.
[0:54] Speaker 2: Well they haven't. It hasn't happened very often lately.
[0:56] Speaker 1: But back back in my day, you know, I feel
[1:00] Speaker 1: like in the in the oughts, in the early you
[1:03] Speaker 1: know tens, we had a supplemental draft every year, just
[1:06] Speaker 1: usually be like a third or fourth or fifth round
[1:07] Speaker 1: pick because some player would be ruled ineligible that wasn't
[1:11] Speaker 1: expected to be now that doesn't tend to happen. But yes,
[1:14] Speaker 1: Brandon Soresby is where we're starting the news. We have
[1:18] Speaker 1: some important chip Watch updates. Yes, we have some contracts.
[1:22] Speaker 1: We have some of our old favorites with good sound,
[1:26] Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, Jim Harbaugh, and we do have a little
[1:28] Speaker 1: update from Patrick Claibon who watched the beautiful game live
[1:32] Speaker 1: across the street, so Fie, so I do want to
[1:34] Speaker 1: hear a little bit about that. To wrap the show,
[1:36] Speaker 1: we'll start with Soresby. If you have n't been tracking
[1:39] Speaker 1: this story, he was a transfer from Cincinnati to Texas Tech,
[1:43] Speaker 1: thought of as a promising pro prospect, got about five
[1:47] Speaker 1: million dollars reportedly in nil money.
[1:50] Speaker 3: Thank you for that.
[1:51] Speaker 1: You always don't believe the NL nil recording. But he
[1:58] Speaker 1: then admitted to gambling a lot on a lot of
[2:04] Speaker 1: college football games and other sports, including his own team,
[2:08] Speaker 1: and entered a rehabilitation program. The college football world was
[2:14] Speaker 1: up in arms when a judge in Texas decided Soresby
[2:19] Speaker 1: would be eligible to play, but weirdly that decision seems
[2:23] Speaker 1: to have led directly to him not playing for Texas
[2:25] Speaker 1: Tech because the criticism the outroar of the college football
[2:32] Speaker 1: like apparatus allowing Soorsby to potentially play this year was
[2:35] Speaker 1: so aggressive. I think he just decided in Texas Tech
[2:39] Speaker 1: decided it is not worth the trouble that came on
[2:41] Speaker 1: the same day as the Big Twelve actually filed a
[2:44] Speaker 1: lawsuit which would have allowed teams to sanction Texas Tech,
[2:47] Speaker 1: maybe not even play against them.
[2:49] Speaker 2: Who knows.
[2:49] Speaker 1: It sounds like either Soresby or Texas Tech or both
[2:53] Speaker 1: of them just decided this isn't worth the trouble, and
[2:56] Speaker 1: so he is applying for the supplemental draft. And it's
[2:59] Speaker 1: a rare time that I've covered the league where the
[3:02] Speaker 1: supplemental draft has a real intrigue because if you squinted,
[3:06] Speaker 1: like I'm hearing some people say they would some team
[3:08] Speaker 1: use a first round pick, would some team use a
[3:10] Speaker 1: second round pick? I think a third round pick is
[3:12] Speaker 1: very much in play for a talented quarterback. But there
[3:16] Speaker 1: are obviously concerns about him.
[3:18] Speaker 2: Patrick.
[3:19] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[3:19] Speaker 4: We you know, those of us shield adjacent now and
[3:24] Speaker 4: who still protect and carry the Shield do countless hours
[3:27] Speaker 4: of Ninjao training to be fully aware of the NFL
[3:31] Speaker 4: gambling policy, to know every apparatus in every aspect everything
[3:35] Speaker 4: you were allowed to do and not do with relation
[3:37] Speaker 4: to a casino or sports betting, which is nothing. You
[3:40] Speaker 4: can't do nothing. In fact, the prescription is to snitch
[3:44] Speaker 4: on people who do. There's a specific snitch hotline to
[3:47] Speaker 4: call out anybody who's taking part in this process. And
[3:49] Speaker 4: so Brendan Storesby's gonna have to navigate that. The decision
[3:53] Speaker 4: and the appeal decision. The statements, everything to me seems
[3:58] Speaker 4: to indicate that Brendan Storesby is still very willing to
[4:01] Speaker 4: take calculated risks.
[4:03] Speaker 1: Mmm.
[4:05] Speaker 2: Nailed it is.
[4:06] Speaker 4: This is a bet on yourself, and I think teams
[4:11] Speaker 4: are going to be comfortable with it. You know, you see, Kylee,
[4:14] Speaker 4: you see all these things in any number of places,
[4:17] Speaker 4: or people are willing to partner up with. Are you
[4:20] Speaker 4: willing to devote the energy and attention to a particular
[4:22] Speaker 4: player that's at quarterback?
[4:23] Speaker 3: That's going to be all of these things.
[4:25] Speaker 4: Because there's been a lot of distraction talk during my
[4:28] Speaker 4: time covering the National Football.
[4:30] Speaker 3: League, this would fall into that.
[4:32] Speaker 4: But it seems that only certain distractions are worthwhile, and
[4:37] Speaker 4: so this one probably wouldn't be that much of an issue.
[4:41] Speaker 3: For other teams.
[4:42] Speaker 1: I think he's only taking that calculated risk because they
[4:45] Speaker 1: felt like they had no other good alternatives because it
[4:50] Speaker 1: would have been miserable to try to play for Texas Tech.
[4:53] Speaker 2: Maybe they were.
[4:54] Speaker 1: Getting the feel legally that it wasn't going to happen anyways,
[4:57] Speaker 1: it was going to become a problem for the university
[5:00] Speaker 1: and in general. It was just like, Okay, I guess
[5:02] Speaker 1: I'll do the thing I didn't really want to do,
[5:04] Speaker 1: which was go pro instead of getting this money and
[5:08] Speaker 1: getting better, because he seems like a player that could
[5:12] Speaker 1: use the development. Plus he might want his life to
[5:16] Speaker 1: calm down a little bit after being embroiled in this
[5:19] Speaker 1: you know, crazy gambling fiasco.
[5:21] Speaker 4: Yeah, the supplemental draft isn't going to calm it down
[5:24] Speaker 4: very much. But six three, two thirty five, twenty seven touchdowns,
[5:27] Speaker 4: five interceptions, this is a player that's going to get
[5:29] Speaker 4: a lot of energy and attention. I think about Tim
[5:32] Speaker 4: Tebow's cell phone number getting leaked. I think about people
[5:35] Speaker 4: throwing fake money at Johnny Manziel and at Cam Newton.
[5:39] Speaker 4: Message board drama is always going to be a part
[5:41] Speaker 4: of college football, as well as snippy lawsuits and teams
[5:44] Speaker 4: saying that they're going to do this and threatening consequences
[5:47] Speaker 4: for that. That's just a general part of college football.
[5:51] Speaker 4: And if those things were enough to say, all right,
[5:53] Speaker 4: I'm out for Texas Tech and for Soresby. I just
[5:57] Speaker 4: think those are the things that everybody has to deal
[5:59] Speaker 4: with an extent, especially when you're playing at a high level.
[6:02] Speaker 3: But good luck to him. Hopefully he's better.
[6:06] Speaker 1: And and yeah, well I think NFL teams have to
[6:09] Speaker 1: be concerned if he's was truly addicted to gambling, which
[6:15] Speaker 1: by his actions and his statements, you have to take
[6:18] Speaker 1: them at their word.
[6:19] Speaker 2: And he was gambling a lot. I mean it was.
[6:24] Speaker 1: And losing that's the most important part, as one does
[6:28] Speaker 1: when one gambles generally, I mean, he's he's one strike away,
[6:33] Speaker 1: you would think from lifetime banishment, and there is a
[6:37] Speaker 1: world where he could be suspended. We don't know that.
[6:41] Speaker 1: NFL teams don't really know that. I don't know if
[6:43] Speaker 1: they're going to get any clarity on that. Kish On
[6:46] Speaker 1: Booty admitted to gambling in college, not as extensively, and
[6:50] Speaker 1: he only admitted it a year after he was already
[6:53] Speaker 1: in the NFL. They didn't take any action against kaish
[6:56] Speaker 1: On Booty, so who knows they.
[6:59] Speaker 4: But you know, NFL conduct, the decisions tend to track
[7:04] Speaker 4: with reaction and conversation.
[7:06] Speaker 2: Good point.
[7:07] Speaker 1: So yeah, the NFL might feel like they have to
[7:09] Speaker 1: make a stance here, so he would maybe be suspended.
[7:13] Speaker 1: For those curious, like what kind of player he is?
[7:15] Speaker 1: And I read a lot about him. I watched some
[7:18] Speaker 1: of his tape. Look, he was the number one ESPN
[7:24] Speaker 1: Transfer portal recruit this offseason and this is before all
[7:28] Speaker 1: this happened.
[7:29] Speaker 2: So he was a highly thought of player.
[7:33] Speaker 1: Depending on the draft analysts that you want to trust,
[7:35] Speaker 1: people think he probably would have been the third quarterback
[7:38] Speaker 1: in this last draft. It wasn't a great draft. If
[7:41] Speaker 1: you put him into next year's draft, who knows. You
[7:43] Speaker 1: could go from Nate Tice, who I reached out to
[7:46] Speaker 1: last week actually when it sounded like he was going back,
[7:49] Speaker 1: and yeah, he thought he had him as like a
[7:52] Speaker 1: third or fourth round type of guy. Back in the day,
[7:54] Speaker 1: he would say, supplemental draft, you almost knock a round
[7:56] Speaker 1: off it because it's it's a pain in the ass.
[7:58] Speaker 1: Almost put him around lower than he normally would. That's
[8:01] Speaker 1: where he had him. But he is the type of
[8:03] Speaker 1: player that some teams could get excited about because it's
[8:06] Speaker 1: like arm angles, it's scrambling.
[8:11] Speaker 2: He looked.
[8:12] Speaker 1: He's physically talented a lot of rushing yards as a pro,
[8:16] Speaker 1: and then he's really avoided like turnover worthy plays according
[8:20] Speaker 1: to PFF, and mistakes and sacks. So that's a nice
[8:23] Speaker 1: combination of like, highly talented, doesn't make a lot of mistakes,
[8:28] Speaker 1: but doesn't necessarily show a lot of the stuff that
[8:32] Speaker 1: gets Tice specifically excited, which is a lot of like
[8:35] Speaker 1: the real quarterback, he going through your progressions and anticipation,
[8:39] Speaker 1: and so you haven't really seen a lot. He's kind
[8:42] Speaker 1: of an unmolded clay type of guy who could have
[8:44] Speaker 1: used another year of college.
[8:45] Speaker 4: And so somebody that feels comfortable in a developmental situation
[8:51] Speaker 4: where you can coincide that with monitoring and making sure
[8:54] Speaker 4: that there's relapse, you know that we don't have any
[8:56] Speaker 4: issues like that, then I think a team will be
[8:59] Speaker 4: perfectly with a two.
[9:00] Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, how can you be that sure of that?
[9:04] Speaker 1: But okay, I looked at the teams that have some
[9:07] Speaker 1: extra draft picks here that also need quarterbacks.
[9:10] Speaker 2: Here's a few.
[9:11] Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins have four third round picks. I mean
[9:15] Speaker 1: that one stood out to me. So the way it
[9:19] Speaker 1: works with the supplemental Draft, you can't. First of all,
[9:22] Speaker 1: it's done over email. It's way too complicated to explain
[9:26] Speaker 1: how the teams are structured, but it's essentially six wins
[9:31] Speaker 1: are under teams that didn't make the playoffs, six wins
[9:34] Speaker 1: and over and other teams, and then they randomly.
[9:38] Speaker 2: Sort of create an order each round.
[9:40] Speaker 1: So it's it's very confusing, but it's basically by email,
[9:43] Speaker 1: which is funny. And I looked at the teams with
[9:47] Speaker 1: the extra middle round picks and need the quarterback. Miami
[9:49] Speaker 1: has four third round picks. Okay, Minnesota, they could use
[9:53] Speaker 1: a quarterback. They could, they could add someone.
[9:55] Speaker 2: They have two.
[9:56] Speaker 1: The Jets have two twos and two to one. My
[10:00] Speaker 1: Jets friends are asking the Jets were the Jets going
[10:03] Speaker 1: on sowersby what do you think? That seems a little rich,
[10:05] Speaker 1: but a two you have an extra two?
[10:06] Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it depends. And this is something we
[10:09] Speaker 4: were discussing in our meeting. When you have multiple picks
[10:11] Speaker 4: in the same round for the supplemental draft, can you
[10:13] Speaker 4: do you designate which pick?
[10:15] Speaker 2: That is no idea, but good, good question.
[10:18] Speaker 1: Probably right, I would guess yeah, Because then the other teams,
[10:23] Speaker 1: for instance, that.
[10:25] Speaker 2: I don't even know how that would work.
[10:26] Speaker 1: Yeah, because the NFL would need to know the order
[10:29] Speaker 1: if another team went for a second round pick. You
[10:32] Speaker 1: have to have a established order. So yes, I would
[10:33] Speaker 1: guess that they would designate which of their twos. Pittsburgh
[10:37] Speaker 1: could use a quarterback, although they've got some young ones.
[10:40] Speaker 1: They have three third round picks. Arizona could use a quarterback.
[10:43] Speaker 1: I would say in general, they don't have any extra pick.
[10:46] Speaker 1: Pittsburgh also has two fours, so between three threes and
[10:49] Speaker 1: two fours. In Miami having four threes, I think a
[10:53] Speaker 1: third round pick is possible here. If I had to
[10:56] Speaker 1: do the over under, that's where I would put it.
[10:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think third round is expected.
[11:01] Speaker 1: Really, I think teams are anxious to give up future picks.
[11:05] Speaker 1: And you mentioned the timing of it. All teams are
[11:07] Speaker 1: breaking for the summer right now. Although the supplemental Draft
[11:10] Speaker 1: doesn't have a date on it, it might be late July,
[11:12] Speaker 1: so so someone will be working on this surely, But
[11:17] Speaker 1: teams to want to give up extra picks in next
[11:20] Speaker 1: year's draft, which is supposed to be loaded, so maybe
[11:22] Speaker 1: a third.
[11:23] Speaker 4: They love quarterbacks, okay, they love certain types of quarterbacks
[11:26] Speaker 4: and you know, he has an agent, so he's not
[11:28] Speaker 4: a bad person.
[11:31] Speaker 3: There's none of those concerns. He speaks their language back in.
[11:35] Speaker 1: The day, and we will move on and then fly
[11:36] Speaker 1: through the rest of this news. Back in the day.
[11:38] Speaker 1: One of my favorite items of annual content on NFL
[11:42] Speaker 1: dot com, back when Henry Hodgson, who now runs all
[11:45] Speaker 1: of international and runs nfl.
[11:48] Speaker 3: UK basically a global emperor.
[11:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, he used to just run the NFL dot on website,
[11:54] Speaker 1: like where things go on it and whatnot. And he
[11:56] Speaker 1: used to have the piece of content he would write
[11:59] Speaker 1: every year, supplemental mock draft where it just would have
[12:02] Speaker 1: pass pass pass, pass pass for three straight rounds, all
[12:06] Speaker 1: thirty two teams until like someone took a guy in
[12:09] Speaker 1: the fifth round or whatever. It was great, So let's
[12:13] Speaker 1: bring that content back. But I went, knowing how much
[12:15] Speaker 1: he loved the supplemental draft, I asked him for a quote.
[12:19] Speaker 1: I didn't really ask him, we were just texting, but
[12:21] Speaker 1: I asked if I could use this quote and he
[12:23] Speaker 1: said it was okay. He says, I can say, with authority,
[12:26] Speaker 1: as a supplemental draft enthusiast that this will be the
[12:29] Speaker 1: greatest supplemental draft since either the nineteen eighty five Bernie
[12:33] Speaker 1: Kozar Draft.
[12:34] Speaker 2: That was crazy.
[12:35] Speaker 1: He was one of the highly most highly touted guys
[12:37] Speaker 1: goes out in the Supplemental or the nineteen eighty nine
[12:40] Speaker 1: Supplemental Draft when the Cowboys shocked the world to take
[12:43] Speaker 1: Steve Walsh first just to compete with Troy Aikman who
[12:47] Speaker 1: they had just taken first, and then the great Bobby
[12:50] Speaker 1: Humphrey went a few rounds later, as well as Tim Rosenbach.
[12:53] Speaker 1: So we have not had the heat in the supplemental
[12:56] Speaker 1: draft according to Henry since nineteen eighty nine that we
[12:59] Speaker 1: have this.
[13:00] Speaker 4: One fourth round nineteen eighty seven to one Chris Carter.
[13:03] Speaker 1: Okay, so there's been some other great players. Yeah, the
[13:06] Speaker 1: Hall of Famer guys with controversy end up in the
[13:09] Speaker 1: album that Steve Wallsh's story is one of those where
[13:13] Speaker 1: I think about how different it would be in today's media.
[13:15] Speaker 1: Obviously was getting a lot of attention back then in
[13:18] Speaker 1: Dallas too, But for Jimmy Johnson, who didn't really like
[13:22] Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, to take this guy Steve Walsh first in
[13:25] Speaker 1: the supplemental Draft and ended up being like you know,
[13:28] Speaker 1: immediately after, and that was when they were the worst
[13:32] Speaker 1: team in the league. So, you know, immediately after having
[13:35] Speaker 1: Troy Aikman first overall and being like this is gonna
[13:39] Speaker 1: this was kind of his favorite in Jerry Jones like
[13:42] Speaker 1: Akman was Jerry Jones's guy. I mean that's spicy, and
[13:44] Speaker 1: then Aikman ends up being, you know, a legend.
[13:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good stuff.
[13:48] Speaker 4: Walsh torched Arkansas in his senior year. That's what happened.
[13:51] Speaker 4: That's how you got Jerry on board.
[13:52] Speaker 1: Okay, we've got some contracts Sean Payton five year extension
[13:57] Speaker 1: to align with George Peyton. We've got the Peyton locked
[14:00] Speaker 1: up in Denver, and also the Broncos signed UFL MVP
[14:06] Speaker 1: Keem Butler. If you remember a draft back in the
[14:09] Speaker 1: day that a lot of us in football Twitter got
[14:11] Speaker 1: excited about Keem Butler.
[14:12] Speaker 2: He's now in the Broncos.
[14:13] Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's killing the UFL every single season, and
[14:16] Speaker 4: it's like he ends up back there and it's like,
[14:17] Speaker 4: stop letting this dude go in there and torch those guys.
[14:20] Speaker 3: They don't deserve that.
[14:21] Speaker 1: How about Sean Payton just making it happen in his
[14:24] Speaker 1: second tenure.
[14:25] Speaker 4: Somebody asked Somebody asked him, like how much long are
[14:27] Speaker 4: you going to do this? He's sixty two years old.
[14:29] Speaker 4: He got like the well coach, this is the last one.
[14:34] Speaker 1: He I view him differently, not that I wouldn't have
[14:38] Speaker 1: viewed him as one of the greatest offensive coaches of
[14:40] Speaker 1: this generation, but to do it again that not only
[14:44] Speaker 1: so many coaches have done that Bo Nicks. By the way,
[14:46] Speaker 1: at Mini camp, they're one of the eleven teams practicing
[14:49] Speaker 1: right now. We are down to eleven. They're practicing Tuesday Wednesday.
[14:52] Speaker 1: I think they're done. I don't know if there's a
[14:54] Speaker 1: team practicing on Thursday, maybe one or two. The Broncos
[14:57] Speaker 1: are one of them. Bo Nicks is out there doing
[14:59] Speaker 1: individual so that's good progress for him coming off of
[15:02] Speaker 1: an injury, and in camp he'll be throwing a Hikeeen Butler.
[15:05] Speaker 1: Another contract, Jalen Cocher gets a three year, thirty five
[15:10] Speaker 1: million dollar extension. Great money for a guy who came
[15:14] Speaker 1: in as an undrafted free agent, but also a great
[15:18] Speaker 1: bet by the Panthers on a player who's been outstanding
[15:22] Speaker 1: for them. This is a contract where in a year
[15:24] Speaker 1: or two, even right now, you might be like, huh,
[15:27] Speaker 1: that's one of the best deals for a team. But yeah,
[15:30] Speaker 1: I never I never mind a player taking the bird
[15:32] Speaker 1: in the hand and taking that money.
[15:33] Speaker 4: Yeah, and the team sending that offer out there because
[15:37] Speaker 4: you can do it like the Jags, Like, what is
[15:40] Speaker 4: it going to take to pay Parker Washington next year?
[15:43] Speaker 3: You could just go ahead and solve the issue.
[15:46] Speaker 2: Now here's the thing.
[15:47] Speaker 1: If Parker Washington got offered that contract you, it would
[15:50] Speaker 1: have turned it down.
[15:50] Speaker 2: Just my guess, Yeah, turn it down, and he should.
[15:52] Speaker 3: You gotta go up.
[15:54] Speaker 1: I I do want, Like, I don't know how much
[15:59] Speaker 1: guaranteed money is in that Coker deal, Probably a lot
[16:01] Speaker 1: over the first two years. But you're a guy who,
[16:03] Speaker 1: for what it's worth, has only as good as he's looked,
[16:07] Speaker 1: only as eight hundred and seventy two yards in his
[16:09] Speaker 1: first two seasons he was undrafted. As someone is willing
[16:12] Speaker 1: to give you, let's say, twenty million dollars guaranteed, I'm
[16:17] Speaker 1: just taking that.
[16:18] Speaker 2: I don't care.
[16:19] Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not I'm not negotiating hard, just like,
[16:21] Speaker 1: let's change my life. Joe Tipman also getting life changing money.
[16:26] Speaker 1: He was a mid round or was he second round
[16:29] Speaker 1: pick by the Jets who was starting at center, but
[16:32] Speaker 1: last year they moved him to guard thirty five million
[16:35] Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed if you ground up on a four year,
[16:37] Speaker 1: sixty six million dollar extension. A great young offensive line.
[16:43] Speaker 1: They really like Tipman. You obviously like the talent at
[16:46] Speaker 1: tackle playing in front of Gino Smith, who looked rejuvenated
[16:49] Speaker 1: and quite fresh and happy at the podium in a
[16:52] Speaker 1: Jets uniform on Tuesday.
[16:53] Speaker 4: Yeah, the vibes are up in the area clearly. You know,
[16:57] Speaker 4: you go from the og tip Man to tip Man
[17:01] Speaker 4: getting a deal where it's it's things are looking up.
[17:05] Speaker 4: And you know, in terms of Jets that have gotten extensions,
[17:07] Speaker 4: like Sauce and Quinn got extended, but they got traded
[17:10] Speaker 4: like this is. They haven't had a homegrown Jet get
[17:16] Speaker 4: a deal where you know it's gonna work out in
[17:18] Speaker 4: a while.
[17:18] Speaker 1: So well, it's interesting the positions that this new staff
[17:21] Speaker 1: has invested. I mean, Garrett Wilson got his contract and
[17:24] Speaker 1: then this offseason specifically Briest Hall a running back and
[17:28] Speaker 1: Tipman at right guard. But yeah, you have Tipman, Membu
[17:31] Speaker 1: and Fashanu locked in long term as three core pieces.
[17:36] Speaker 2: I like that line.
[17:37] Speaker 1: I like the vibes coming out of floor him. Let's
[17:41] Speaker 1: talk about Dallas. George Pickens shows up to Mini camp,
[17:45] Speaker 1: no surprise, he is sitting out team drills. That's kind
[17:48] Speaker 1: of the move that is happening for players who are
[17:51] Speaker 1: either a little injured but not too injured, or are
[17:53] Speaker 1: looking for new contracts. The Cowboys said they were excited
[17:56] Speaker 1: to have him. Brian Schottenheimer he always handles these things well.
[18:00] Speaker 1: He said, it's gonna be coach Pickens this week.
[18:02] Speaker 3: I like that.
[18:03] Speaker 1: Schottenheimer's like he's a you know, they used to use
[18:06] Speaker 1: players coach as like a derogatory word. I think Brian
[18:09] Speaker 1: Schottenhomer is a player's coach in a positive sense.
[18:12] Speaker 4: Yeah, a person who understands people, including the people he
[18:15] Speaker 4: works for, and he's not trying to manipulate them.
[18:17] Speaker 3: He just manages them properly. So shout out to coach Shotty.
[18:20] Speaker 1: Michael Pennix is at mini camp for the Falcons, not
[18:24] Speaker 1: yet cleared for teamwork. That was up in the air.
[18:27] Speaker 1: He of course coming back from that big knee injury.
[18:30] Speaker 1: They say he should be ready for teamwork in training camp,
[18:34] Speaker 1: but for now it's too a tongue of Biloa getting
[18:36] Speaker 1: those reps. We've got an exciting chip Watch update, so
[18:42] Speaker 1: much chipwatch talk. But this really was kickstarted by Patrick
[18:46] Speaker 1: noticing some Leonard Williams quotes from last week. We actually
[18:52] Speaker 1: have the sound for this. Let's listen.
[18:54] Speaker 5: I think I'd be lying if I said there wasn't
[18:55] Speaker 5: a little extra motivation from here in that type of stuff.
[18:58] Speaker 5: There's a little extra like on our shoulder. You know,
[19:01] Speaker 5: we just came off of a Super Bowl, you know,
[19:06] Speaker 5: winning season, and people are still you know, giving other
[19:08] Speaker 5: people favorites over us. But at the same time, like
[19:11] Speaker 5: I said, it's like, it's always about us, it's about
[19:12] Speaker 5: our process. I think that is still adding fuel to
[19:16] Speaker 5: the fire for guys. But at the same time, we're
[19:17] Speaker 5: going to stick to our process regardless of what other
[19:19] Speaker 5: people outside may think.
[19:22] Speaker 4: He is so motivated now just imagine, just imagine, because
[19:27] Speaker 4: people said things, they said things about Sam Darnold last year. Yeah,
[19:30] Speaker 4: and now they're saying about them after they won. He's
[19:33] Speaker 4: not just putting chips on. He's putting extra chips on
[19:37] Speaker 4: Super Bowl back to back.
[19:38] Speaker 1: You've been you've been monitoring different chips in the different
[19:42] Speaker 1: ways that they can help a team perform. I mean,
[19:45] Speaker 1: you just put a little chip on my shoulder. The
[19:47] Speaker 1: fact that you were professionally able to answer a phone call,
[19:50] Speaker 1: take the information and while that sound was happening, hang
[19:53] Speaker 1: up in time, just in time for to end, and
[19:56] Speaker 1: then have a cojin thought right after it.
[19:58] Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because the when I heard, when I heard,
[20:01] Speaker 4: because that was one of my first entries into the
[20:04] Speaker 4: twenty twenty six chip Tracker. Okay, was the fact that
[20:07] Speaker 4: not only because you have to add yourself off the
[20:10] Speaker 4: chip tracker, but what he did was he added the
[20:12] Speaker 4: entire team. The entire team is going to try extra hard.
[20:15] Speaker 4: So I'm sorry, Rams like Miles like Welcome to Los Angeles,
[20:19] Speaker 4: not gonna work out.
[20:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, I do worry about him now.
[20:22] Speaker 1: Ernest Jones has a really interesting perspective on Chipwatch in
[20:27] Speaker 1: terms of being a defending champ because he was on
[20:30] Speaker 1: the defending champs when the Rams were defending the title
[20:34] Speaker 1: five years ago, and so he can compare it one
[20:36] Speaker 1: to one comparison. He was quoted this week saying, I
[20:39] Speaker 1: think the mindset it's just kind of different the first
[20:41] Speaker 1: time with the Rams. We were trying to defend it
[20:44] Speaker 1: this time. Last year doesn't matter. Last year is not
[20:47] Speaker 1: going to help us. So he's he's saying we aren't
[20:50] Speaker 1: we aren't like that team which collapsed under the way
[20:54] Speaker 1: of Sean McVay, not fulfilling you know, his soul by
[20:58] Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl.
[20:59] Speaker 4: And that's what makes it difficult about chips and the
[21:03] Speaker 4: mode that they provide it. Sometimes it's not authentic and
[21:05] Speaker 4: somebody will tell you that they are trying extra hard,
[21:09] Speaker 4: but regardless of all the actual quantifiable things that we
[21:13] Speaker 4: can see that were done on the football field, you
[21:15] Speaker 4: can just look back afterwards and say they didn't try
[21:17] Speaker 4: as hard because they weren't motivated.
[21:18] Speaker 3: So being facetious.
[21:19] Speaker 1: By the way, so Kyle Uschek was on our air
[21:24] Speaker 1: NFL Insiders, Yeah, just the Insiders.
[21:29] Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't there for that one.
[21:31] Speaker 2: Oh you weren't there for that. Yeah, you are going
[21:32] Speaker 2: to be hosting though I.
[21:33] Speaker 4: Was hosting a show, but I wasn't there to talk
[21:36] Speaker 4: to Juice, gotcha. So it was like CMC's wedding.
[21:37] Speaker 1: Okay, And so let's hear from Uschek kind of compare
[21:41] Speaker 1: where the forty nine ers are at. This is a
[21:43] Speaker 1: little bit of an NFC West three pack in terms
[21:45] Speaker 1: of Chip watch.
[21:46] Speaker 6: The Seahawks, they won a Super Bowl.
[21:48] Speaker 7: The Rams had a great season, and they've had some
[21:50] Speaker 7: great additions in the offseason, so I can understand why
[21:54] Speaker 7: that is the case. But I think we feel great
[21:57] Speaker 7: about where we're at and I love our squad. I
[21:59] Speaker 7: think that we have only improved. Guys are getting healthy.
[22:04] Speaker 7: You know, we had to Mike Evans and Osa on defense,
[22:06] Speaker 7: which I think both of those guys are just gonna
[22:08] Speaker 7: make such an impact.
[22:10] Speaker 6: And I think we're sitting in a good spot.
[22:13] Speaker 7: Man, if people want to forget about us, that's that's fantastic.
[22:16] Speaker 6: That's a good place to be sometimes.
[22:18] Speaker 4: M Yeah, and I can't because Juice is awesome and
[22:23] Speaker 4: they're perfectly comfortable with that. Like this team comfortable enough
[22:27] Speaker 4: to cancel mini camp. There's so many veterans that they've
[22:29] Speaker 4: been through so much they recognize it. It literally doesn't matter,
[22:34] Speaker 4: Like all the conversation literally does nothing, Like what can
[22:36] Speaker 4: we get on the field, how can we execute? And
[22:39] Speaker 4: if they're healthy, you know, and Kyle's calling and plays
[22:42] Speaker 4: and Brock's doing good and everything's gonna work.
[22:43] Speaker 2: Out, especially in this division.
[22:45] Speaker 1: I think it has worked out pretty well for the
[22:47] Speaker 1: teams that aren't expected to be the teams that year,
[22:49] Speaker 1: including the forty nine ers of twenty twenty five, who
[22:52] Speaker 1: won a lot of games despite losing a lot of
[22:54] Speaker 1: their best players to injury. When everyone was saying going
[22:57] Speaker 1: into the year, oh, this is like a step back
[22:59] Speaker 1: type of year. He knows they're in a good place.
[23:02] Speaker 1: You wouldn't think the Cardinals would be in a good place.
[23:05] Speaker 1: But mac Wilson disagrees. When asked about Miles Garrett coming
[23:11] Speaker 1: too the Rams, he flipped the script.
[23:13] Speaker 3: How do you people the Miles drag? They how to
[23:15] Speaker 3: deal with us at the end of the day, they
[23:17] Speaker 3: got to deal with us.
[23:19] Speaker 1: That's damn right. That's the attitude to have. I don't
[23:24] Speaker 1: even know if that's a chip, that's just reality.
[23:26] Speaker 3: No, yeah, he's being honest.
[23:27] Speaker 4: They do have to play them twice in fact, but
[23:31] Speaker 4: you want to talk about on off like, I don't
[23:32] Speaker 4: have it for this show. But mac Wilson's injury, the
[23:36] Speaker 4: Cardinals were laughable. After mack Wilson got interest down the stretch,
[23:39] Speaker 4: it was it was very bad.
[23:41] Speaker 2: Okay.
[23:42] Speaker 1: Mac Wilson a linebacker with the team. They lost to
[23:45] Speaker 1: the Rams thirty seven to twenty in a game that
[23:49] Speaker 1: I'm not sure Stafford stayed in that whole game, and
[23:51] Speaker 1: yet they went by that much and then forty five
[23:53] Speaker 1: to seventeen, So yeah, they dealt with them fine last year.
[23:57] Speaker 1: Let's listen to a few more sound clips before we
[23:59] Speaker 1: go on our way. Caleb Williams, yes, the Madden cover
[24:05] Speaker 1: man for twenty twenty six, talking about the differences between
[24:09] Speaker 1: year one with Ben Johnson.
[24:11] Speaker 2: In year two.
[24:12] Speaker 8: That's a hell of a lot more fun for me
[24:15] Speaker 8: than it was last year, just because it was you know,
[24:17] Speaker 8: I was sent to coach Coach Stews, Who's like, did
[24:20] Speaker 8: I feel like I was drowning for you know, trying
[24:22] Speaker 8: to breathe or you know, stay alive and wait for
[24:25] Speaker 8: a boat to come around last year. You know, now
[24:28] Speaker 8: this year it's like I said earlier, it's being able
[24:30] Speaker 8: to start where we finished last year, play calls and
[24:34] Speaker 8: words and verbiage and speak the same language.
[24:36] Speaker 1: And I do think it's a huge advantage for Caleb Williams,
[24:40] Speaker 1: specifically in year two of this offense. You could see
[24:43] Speaker 1: that he was swimming certainly in the off season even
[24:47] Speaker 1: to start the year. The fact that he was able
[24:50] Speaker 1: to do that, well, I'm excited, And he said the
[24:55] Speaker 1: completion percentage, that is one of the things that he
[24:57] Speaker 1: is most focused on.
[24:58] Speaker 4: Yeah, you subtract so the thinking and the process from
[25:02] Speaker 4: it and get Caleb in a position where he can
[25:04] Speaker 4: just execute and make plays without having to, as he said,
[25:08] Speaker 4: swim and navigate the waters of digesting and understanding all
[25:11] Speaker 4: of the sky's the limit.
[25:14] Speaker 1: The Buccaneers are team that I believe in, and yet
[25:18] Speaker 1: in the NFC West is so loaded it's almost hard
[25:20] Speaker 1: to see a team from the NFC West not representing
[25:23] Speaker 1: the team in the Super Bowl. But Baker Mayfield was
[25:27] Speaker 1: talking about some of the defensive additions on Tuesday, and
[25:31] Speaker 1: I just I wanted your take on this, he said
[25:34] Speaker 1: about his defense, talking about as Robinson specifically, who's known
[25:39] Speaker 1: for just like getting in a lot of fights at practice,
[25:42] Speaker 1: like with his teammates, also with other teams. He said,
[25:46] Speaker 1: we needed some asxles over there, and he's one of them.
[25:51] Speaker 1: First of all, if you're Ashawn Robinson, would you just
[25:53] Speaker 1: want to be known as an asshole? And do you
[25:55] Speaker 1: believe in the theory that every football team needs some asles?
[26:00] Speaker 3: No, I don't.
[26:01] Speaker 4: I don't think there's generally anything positive that comes from
[26:04] Speaker 4: the introduction of an apple other than, like you know,
[26:07] Speaker 4: the sphincter rolls. And we're being literal because there's a
[26:11] Speaker 4: containment there, but with an actual apple, the containment is broken,
[26:15] Speaker 4: right and people are uncomfortable.
[26:17] Speaker 3: Okay, but what A'shawn Robinson.
[26:19] Speaker 4: Does is put a very very good football player next
[26:22] Speaker 4: to Vita Vea, and you know, the Bucks will be
[26:25] Speaker 4: able to probably not be as poorous as they were
[26:29] Speaker 4: even with Veya in the lineup last year. And Bulls
[26:32] Speaker 4: figures some some things out with the new additions on defense.
[26:35] Speaker 4: Where just got to just gotta keep Baker upright and
[26:38] Speaker 4: healthy seventeen games.
[26:40] Speaker 1: Baker said that Ashawn Robinson's fighting nature is quote stamped
[26:43] Speaker 1: on his forehead.
[26:44] Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means.
[26:45] Speaker 1: This is maybe what is this explaining why Ashawn Robinson,
[26:48] Speaker 1: who's had a very good career, he does tend to
[26:50] Speaker 1: bounce around, whereas his own team maybe is like, okay,
[26:53] Speaker 1: that was enough.
[26:54] Speaker 4: I don't think they care about defensive lineman fighting. What
[26:56] Speaker 4: Baker is making commentary, Ashawn's looked old since he was
[26:59] Speaker 4: like fifteen mm, and so he's got he has a lived,
[27:03] Speaker 4: experienced face.
[27:05] Speaker 1: I think, yeah, throwing a you know, I think you
[27:10] Speaker 1: can't have too many apples in the mix. But someone
[27:12] Speaker 1: who's willing to just you know, spice it up a
[27:15] Speaker 1: little bit. I think it's good for balance. You can't
[27:17] Speaker 1: all you can't all be just a bunch of nice guys.
[27:19] Speaker 1: Add a little mapple to the mix. No, we just
[27:23] Speaker 1: spent an entire off season because A. J. Brown answered questions.
[27:25] Speaker 2: Honestly, he's not that's fair, but I mean justice for the.
[27:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was the Eagles got value in a trade.
[27:37] Speaker 1: So, like you know, I don't know if Eric's gonna
[27:39] Speaker 1: have to beep all that up. I apologize if so.
[27:42] Speaker 1: Dan Campbell definitely a good guy.
[27:45] Speaker 2: He was asked.
[27:46] Speaker 3: I just this.
[27:47] Speaker 1: I just caught my attention in terms of what it
[27:49] Speaker 1: means in terms of, you know, how you live your life.
[27:52] Speaker 1: Let's listen to a question to Dan Campbell about burnout coach.
[27:56] Speaker 3: Who wears his heart on his sleeve.
[27:58] Speaker 5: I'm just curious if there's anything you do during the
[28:00] Speaker 5: season two prevent against burnout or just to.
[28:02] Speaker 4: Alleviate the emotional toll of the most recent season of
[28:05] Speaker 4: the upcoming seasons.
[28:06] Speaker 3: I just burned the ashes and then come back up. Oh.
[28:14] Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means exactly, but I
[28:16] Speaker 2: love it.
[28:16] Speaker 4: It means, projected Dan Campbell to head coach the Arizona Cardinals.
[28:20] Speaker 4: He is going to Phoenix. He's going to rise from
[28:22] Speaker 4: the ashes of being burned out. Just some people are,
[28:27] Speaker 4: you know, love what they do and it's not.
[28:29] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a good guy and tried to answer the
[28:31] Speaker 1: question honestly after that, and the way he answered it
[28:34] Speaker 1: made me realize, like he's not taking any breaks barely.
[28:38] Speaker 1: He's not worried about burn it burnout. He's just gonna
[28:41] Speaker 1: hit that thing. What do you what do you think
[28:42] Speaker 1: about burnout? We need we need time away. We're going
[28:44] Speaker 1: to be taking some time away from the NFL. We're
[28:46] Speaker 1: keeping the NFL daily feed, going, got some pre tape stuff.
[28:49] Speaker 1: You're gonna host some shows, but I'm heading over to
[28:51] Speaker 1: Japan for a little bit.
[28:52] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[28:52] Speaker 4: Life continues to happen while people go through experiences, experience
[28:57] Speaker 4: things with with with other folks, and some of it's negatives,
[28:59] Speaker 4: some of it's positive.
[29:00] Speaker 3: And you need a break.
[29:03] Speaker 4: There's that lie that if you love what you do,
[29:05] Speaker 4: you never work a day in your life. You're hopefully
[29:08] Speaker 4: being compensated by somebody who is extracting the surplus value
[29:12] Speaker 4: of your labor. You need Tom off, You need Tom
[29:15] Speaker 4: to see and enjoy the beautiful world that we get
[29:18] Speaker 4: to live in with so many beautiful I.
[29:19] Speaker 2: Think you can do both at once.
[29:21] Speaker 1: But I also disagree with the idea that you've never
[29:23] Speaker 1: worked day in your life. You love what you do,
[29:25] Speaker 1: because I love what I do. But no matter how
[29:27] Speaker 1: much you love it, there's times there's aspects to any
[29:31] Speaker 1: job that yeah, you yeah, it's a job, you got
[29:35] Speaker 1: to work at it. We're working at it here. You
[29:37] Speaker 1: know who loves his job and shows it on the
[29:39] Speaker 1: field is Cam Jordan. Cam Jordan is back in the NFL,
[29:44] Speaker 1: longtime NFL media podcast host and guests of this podcast,
[29:51] Speaker 1: is working on a new deal as of this taping.
[29:53] Speaker 1: According to Ian rappaport to return to the Saints. Alvin Kamara,
[29:58] Speaker 1: by the way, is at Saints Mini camp some individual drills,
[30:01] Speaker 1: not with the team, but again it seems like he's
[30:03] Speaker 1: staying on that team. Jordan Tyson, caught my eye, is
[30:07] Speaker 1: still rehabbing his injuries, not going to participate in mini camp,
[30:11] Speaker 1: and Chris o'lobby they're just being extra careful, is only
[30:13] Speaker 1: doing individual drills.
[30:15] Speaker 2: They just don't want to risk anything.
[30:17] Speaker 1: All that combined was just sort of a reminder of
[30:19] Speaker 1: like this is a really high ceiling but low floor
[30:23] Speaker 1: if those two guys got hurt team, but also great
[30:26] Speaker 1: news that they get Cam Jordan back.
[30:28] Speaker 2: It sounds like to their defensive line.
[30:30] Speaker 4: Yeah, and how did you just talk to Chase Young
[30:32] Speaker 4: a couple weeks ago on the Insiders and they want
[30:35] Speaker 4: Cam back. The players want Cam back, you know, even
[30:40] Speaker 4: if he wasn't playing, there's a benefit to having him there.
[30:43] Speaker 4: And so I think it works out great for the
[30:44] Speaker 4: people in New Orleans.
[30:46] Speaker 1: And they need some depth there. It's not a great
[30:48] Speaker 1: defensive edge group in general. And Okam Jordan's getting up there,
[30:53] Speaker 1: but he a lot of sacks last year, so they
[30:55] Speaker 1: could use the help. Look, Jim Harbass spoke in front
[30:59] Speaker 1: of a microphone, which means we're going to have him
[31:01] Speaker 1: saying something. Lad McConkie was out there doing some individual drills,
[31:06] Speaker 1: by the way, but more attention has been paid this
[31:09] Speaker 1: offseason on what Justin Herbert has been doing in terms
[31:14] Speaker 1: of his off season routine. Not throwing the ball at
[31:17] Speaker 1: least as much when the media has been around, But
[31:19] Speaker 1: he was throwing it on Tuesday.
[31:21] Speaker 2: Let's listen to Jim.
[31:22] Speaker 9: Just working harder and smarter, both of those two things.
[31:28] Speaker 9: And you know, it's just some guys you gotta you
[31:30] Speaker 9: gotta say whoa, some guys you gotta say second, you'd
[31:35] Speaker 9: rather have the guys you've got to say whoa and yeah,
[31:39] Speaker 9: justin h throwing you know, mid season form in April,
[31:46] Speaker 9: in May, in June.
[31:49] Speaker 10: Has been the way we've done it. Hundreds of balls,
[31:54] Speaker 10: you know, per practice. So we're gonna try it a
[31:57] Speaker 10: different way this year. We are we are, We have
[32:00] Speaker 10: tried it a different way.
[32:01] Speaker 1: You'd rather have the guys that you have to say whoa. Yeah,
[32:05] Speaker 1: you don't want to say something that on a T shirt.
[32:07] Speaker 1: If if he has to go out there and like, hey,
[32:09] Speaker 1: justin Sickham, he's ripping three hundred balls of practice.
[32:12] Speaker 3: Don't want that?
[32:14] Speaker 2: Like whoa by Black Rob, the Great Black Rob. Yeah.
[32:20] Speaker 1: One of the best yeah banger anthems of the that
[32:25] Speaker 1: late nineties, early.
[32:30] Speaker 3: Like whoa?
[32:30] Speaker 2: What a classic?
[32:32] Speaker 1: Also a classic? Is just one more Jim Harbaugh quote
[32:35] Speaker 1: before we get out of here is that.
[32:42] Speaker 10: Uh no, give me give me a guy, give me
[32:52] Speaker 10: a guy.
[32:54] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[32:55] Speaker 9: Pretty pretty darn healthy team, Yeah, pretty uh pretty pretty good.
[33:03] Speaker 11: My friend Larry David would say, just up there, Yeah,
[33:10] Speaker 11: that just was a delightful little moment, and he was
[33:14] Speaker 11: talking about laudvan Conki in terms of the injuries, but
[33:16] Speaker 11: it sounds like there's nothing too big to be concerned
[33:19] Speaker 11: with their Speaking of injuries, Gabeyakis is a player for
[33:23] Speaker 11: the New England Patriots that was drafted in the second
[33:25] Speaker 11: round who missed really all this offseason sounded after a
[33:28] Speaker 11: knee procedure that was pointed out by Mike Reese.
[33:32] Speaker 1: Also has had a torn laborhm in his shoulder, a
[33:34] Speaker 1: stress fracture in his foot that was during the pre
[33:36] Speaker 1: draft process, and a hamstring kept him out of his
[33:40] Speaker 1: combine and proday. He is the only unsigned second round
[33:43] Speaker 1: pick out there. There's some concern about just where he's at,
[33:48] Speaker 1: what's going on there, So just watch this space when
[33:51] Speaker 1: we get to training camp and probably get more news there.
[33:53] Speaker 1: Harold Fannin is a tight end for the Cleveland Browns
[33:56] Speaker 1: who was outstanding as a rookie who we found out
[33:58] Speaker 1: missed all of the offseason with an undisclosed lower body injury.
[34:02] Speaker 1: But we know we had surgery on a growing that
[34:04] Speaker 1: bothered him at the end of last year, so it
[34:05] Speaker 1: looks like that that was the reason he was out.
[34:07] Speaker 1: Rashi Rice was released from jail on Tuesday. There's an
[34:13] Speaker 1: unfortunate video or funny to but I don't know how
[34:16] Speaker 1: you want to look at it, Like these guys like
[34:19] Speaker 1: taping him as he gets out of jail and he
[34:21] Speaker 1: like runs away from them to jump into the car.
[34:23] Speaker 1: But Rashee Rice is expected to be at training camp.
[34:25] Speaker 1: According to Andy Reid, he might even be at mini
[34:29] Speaker 1: camp later this week. We had mentioned on the show
[34:32] Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper, the edge for the defensive of the Denver Broncos,
[34:36] Speaker 1: who was arrested for domestic violence charges a week and
[34:40] Speaker 1: a half ago, was arrested again for violating some of
[34:45] Speaker 1: the terms of agreement. Obviously a situation will be monitoring
[34:49] Speaker 1: and that the Broncos are monitoring. And yeah, I'm ending
[34:52] Speaker 1: this show with some down news in terms of that
[34:55] Speaker 1: legal stuff and also the news that Alden Smith died
[34:58] Speaker 1: at the age of thirty six since the last time
[35:01] Speaker 1: we do a news catch up type of show. One
[35:04] Speaker 1: of the most productive edge rushers to start his career
[35:08] Speaker 1: in NFL history full stop, literally the most sacks in
[35:11] Speaker 1: NFL history in his first two seasons, had had trouble
[35:16] Speaker 1: after that with drinking, with a great number of DUI charges.
[35:20] Speaker 2: Some suspensions in the NFL.
[35:21] Speaker 1: Eventually came back and played for the Raiders and the
[35:24] Speaker 1: Cowboys later in his career. But rest in peace to
[35:27] Speaker 1: Aldon Smith.
[35:27] Speaker 4: Yeah, there's the clip of Mike mcclinchy and Trent Williams
[35:30] Speaker 4: talking about the toughest players they've ever played against, and
[35:33] Speaker 4: they both said simultaneously Alden Smith their teammate.
[35:37] Speaker 3: And you know, his friend told.
[35:39] Speaker 4: The San Francisco Chronicle the things he was doing on
[35:42] Speaker 4: his last day on Earth was taking food to houseless people,
[35:46] Speaker 4: and it was just it's sad.
[35:48] Speaker 3: We should have had more Alton Smith.
[35:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, his friend said they found him in the in
[35:52] Speaker 1: the car after outside his house, and so, yeah, rest
[35:56] Speaker 1: in peace. But for those who weren't paying as close
[35:58] Speaker 1: attention just to the football side of it. And Jim
[36:00] Speaker 1: Harbow was asked about him and just said it was
[36:02] Speaker 1: just tragic that he was a great friend and a
[36:05] Speaker 1: great guy to be around. He was the Defensive Rookie
[36:09] Speaker 1: the Year runner up with fourteen sacks. I mean, that's
[36:12] Speaker 1: a loaded year for Defensive Rookie of the Year When
[36:15] Speaker 1: fourteen sacks can't get you Rookie the Year, But can
[36:18] Speaker 1: you guess who got it with less sacks, but in
[36:21] Speaker 1: all time ed rusher in the twenty eleven draft class.
[36:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, that's JJ. No, No, it wasn't j J.
[36:28] Speaker 1: That's the next year I think, or wait, JJ's in
[36:30] Speaker 1: that draft class, but he didn't get that many secks.
[36:32] Speaker 4: It was von Miller. Oh what Yeah, Cam was in
[36:35] Speaker 4: that class. Walials in that class is crazy class.
[36:37] Speaker 2: It's a crazy class.
[36:38] Speaker 1: So von Miller gets the rookie year and then the
[36:39] Speaker 1: next year after that, Aldon Smith goes nineteen and a
[36:42] Speaker 1: half sex and in a loaded time for ed rushers
[36:45] Speaker 1: in the NFL, was the first team All Pro selection.
[36:49] Speaker 1: And yeah, obviously went through some struggles, but that season
[36:53] Speaker 1: that he had with the Cowboys where he came back
[36:55] Speaker 1: and played every game was kind of a nicer coda
[36:58] Speaker 1: to his career. But out with a lot to rest
[37:01] Speaker 1: in peace to Alden Smith. We'll get you out of here. Patrick,
[37:03] Speaker 1: You've got to go host The Insiders. You're talking to
[37:06] Speaker 1: Quinton Johnston for Tuesday show. So everyone checked that out
[37:09] Speaker 1: on NFL Network. But before I let you go, I
[37:14] Speaker 1: just want to know how was the World Cup? You
[37:16] Speaker 1: were at an exciting Yeah, back and forth too, two
[37:20] Speaker 1: banger between Iran and New Zealand.
[37:23] Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a lot of instant Iranian friends in
[37:27] Speaker 4: our section.
[37:28] Speaker 3: Malcolm was very passionately cheering for Iran.
[37:32] Speaker 4: It was great to just just because yeah, well the
[37:35] Speaker 4: guy next to me is like, ask you a question,
[37:37] Speaker 4: why are you guys such big fans of Iran?
[37:39] Speaker 3: And I'm like, somebody, somebody's got to be you know,
[37:42] Speaker 3: this is underdogs.
[37:44] Speaker 4: Yeah, the circumstances are heavily against this group of guys,
[37:48] Speaker 4: and so, you know, in honor of them, in honor
[37:50] Speaker 4: of the number of children killed in the school attack.
[37:54] Speaker 1: You know, what was the atmosphere and just your experience,
[37:59] Speaker 1: like compare to other sporty events you've attended in your life.
[38:02] Speaker 4: Well, the two things I've gone to it so far.
[38:04] Speaker 4: We're a super Bowl in a World Cup game. Huge
[38:07] Speaker 4: advocate for both.
[38:08] Speaker 3: Of those things.
[38:08] Speaker 4: If you can get into either one of those things,
[38:10] Speaker 4: they're pretty good. But it was electric, you know, people
[38:15] Speaker 4: getting to see and understand how beautiful, you know, the
[38:17] Speaker 4: city that's adopted me can be.
[38:20] Speaker 1: It was great And that game specifically was great because
[38:24] Speaker 1: it it felt like two teams that were just going
[38:26] Speaker 1: for broke the whole time. It almost felt like a
[38:27] Speaker 1: junior not a junior soccer. I just mean there was
[38:30] Speaker 1: a lot going on. It was very chaotic. There's a
[38:32] Speaker 1: million chances, there are lots of mistakes, there's goal It
[38:35] Speaker 1: just that that was one of, if not my favorite
[38:38] Speaker 1: games I've watched so far. So you were there for
[38:40] Speaker 1: a banger.
[38:40] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd put it up there with the Netherlands in
[38:43] Speaker 4: Japan in terms of life.
[38:45] Speaker 3: Good soccer games, back.
[38:46] Speaker 2: And forth, four goals in the second half of that one.
[38:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, one of my friends go into the last Japan
[38:53] Speaker 1: game in the group stage in Dallas. Japan is Jerry
[38:57] Speaker 1: World's team this month. A couple of games there. All right,
[39:00] Speaker 1: let's get Patrick out of here. Let's get out of
[39:01] Speaker 1: here as well. It's a busy week. We're going to
[39:04] Speaker 1: be back on the program, wrapping up all the mini
[39:08] Speaker 1: camp season. We're doing it winners and losers style. If
[39:11] Speaker 1: you've missed anything over the last couple of months. Myself
[39:13] Speaker 1: and Evan Silva, who fantasy goats on the show.
[39:18] Speaker 2: We'll see you that.
[39:19] Speaker 3: He's

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