# Sorsby Ruling, The Baker Dilemma and Russ' HOF Candidacy

An episode of [NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/680904259), 8 Jun 2026, 49 min.

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Gregg Rosenthal and Nick Shook get you caught up on everything you need to know from around the NFL including, Brendan Sorsby not heading to the NFL, Baker Mayfield's future with the Buccaneers, contract extensions for Christian Watson and Darnell Washington, some clarity in the QB 1 battle between J.J. McCarthy and Kyler Murray for the Vikings, and a discussion about Russell Wilson's chances at the Hall of Fame. Plus, Shook takes you behind the scenes of the Madden launch event and the guys give a congratulations to Steve Wyche for his induction into the Black College Football Hall of Fame. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:04] Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we will not allow our
[0:08] Speaker 1: cell phone to ring during this show. I'm Greg Rosenthal.
[0:11] Speaker 1: I'm joined by Nick Shook across the country. He better
[0:14] Speaker 1: not or else Ben Johnson will be really mad. My
[0:18] Speaker 1: favorite day of the week, Monday. Why not, because we're
[0:21] Speaker 1: going over all the news from around the league. We're
[0:23] Speaker 1: not going to hit Ben Johnson and his anger at
[0:26] Speaker 1: the podium for a little while, but we do have
[0:28] Speaker 1: a sneaky amount of stuff, including some takeaways from you
[0:31] Speaker 1: going to the big Madden twenty seven reveal shooky out
[0:35] Speaker 1: of that.
[0:35] Speaker 2: I'm ready and my phone is on silence, so we're good.
[0:38] Speaker 1: Good, Please the big news on Monday morning. Let's start
[0:42] Speaker 1: with the freshest stuff. We're going to talk a little
[0:44] Speaker 1: Russ's Hall of Fame chatter, get an early start. We
[0:47] Speaker 1: have five years to do so, but with him officially retiring,
[0:50] Speaker 1: we'll talk about that, some new contracts being signed. Baker
[0:54] Speaker 1: is making news. But let's start with the college game.
[0:58] Speaker 1: Brandon Sorosby from Texas Tech thought I was gonna need
[1:01] Speaker 1: to start really grinding some Texas Tech tape, or rather
[1:05] Speaker 1: east transferring there but watching his tape from his college
[1:10] Speaker 1: play because there was some talk after he was found
[1:14] Speaker 1: to be gambling at the college level, admitted to it,
[1:18] Speaker 1: entered rehab. The expectation was he was going to single
[1:22] Speaker 1: handedly revive the supplemental draft. I had Jets fans in
[1:25] Speaker 1: my life saying should we burn one of our first
[1:27] Speaker 1: round picks on him? Looks like they won't need to.
[1:30] Speaker 1: I don't think they would have anyways. But Soorsby has
[1:33] Speaker 1: been ruled eligible to play based on an injunction from
[1:39] Speaker 1: a judge in Lubbock, not so coincidentally that prevents the
[1:44] Speaker 1: NCAA from punishing him for gambling. He has agreed to
[1:49] Speaker 1: be suspended for the first two games of the season.
[1:52] Speaker 1: So this looks done and dusted, and it's rare to
[1:57] Speaker 1: hear anything this consequential Nick that has such a uniform reaction.
[2:02] Speaker 1: But everyone I know love and trust in the college game,
[2:05] Speaker 1: including our friend Daniel Jeremiah, thinks this is a fiasco
[2:10] Speaker 1: that the NCAA is allowing him to play after admitting
[2:14] Speaker 1: to gambling on his own games last year.
[2:16] Speaker 2: Well, it's not a fiasco, and the fact that the
[2:18] Speaker 2: NCAA is willing, like willingly allowing him to play, it's
[2:21] Speaker 2: that they're being told they must allow him to play.
[2:23] Speaker 2: If it were up to them, he would never take
[2:25] Speaker 2: the field in college football again because it threatens the
[2:27] Speaker 2: integrity of the sport. But here's the issue. The whole
[2:30] Speaker 2: stance for the NCAA on integrity and amateur athletics disappeared
[2:34] Speaker 2: when nil became a thing, and they're just slowly losing
[2:36] Speaker 2: the remaining control they have to enforce their own rules.
[2:39] Speaker 2: So it's a fiasco because it's another you know, strike
[2:42] Speaker 2: against the ncublea's existence. So we'll see how this kind
[2:45] Speaker 2: of plays into that. But as a concern Soresby, it's
[2:48] Speaker 2: best for him to continue playing college football. You know,
[2:51] Speaker 2: he had his best season of his career at Cincinnati
[2:53] Speaker 2: last year. And some people are interested in his size,
[2:56] Speaker 2: you know, six foot three, he's mobile, He's like the
[2:59] Speaker 2: dual threat type that you want in your modern college
[3:01] Speaker 2: quarterback coming to the NFL. But I don't think that
[3:03] Speaker 2: he has the tape necessarily to back up a strong
[3:06] Speaker 2: draft projection at this point. He needs the last season.
[3:09] Speaker 2: You know, you look at his stats from last year.
[3:10] Speaker 2: Not to dive too deep into it, but he finished
[3:12] Speaker 2: at the twenty seven to five touchdown interception ratio and
[3:14] Speaker 2: had very strong numbers. But I always go back to
[3:16] Speaker 2: the first game of the year, which is the loss
[3:17] Speaker 2: they had against Nebraska, a very run heavy game in
[3:20] Speaker 2: which he finished with sixty nine passing yards on thirteen
[3:22] Speaker 2: to twenty five. If that was your only game tape
[3:24] Speaker 2: you saw of him, you'd think, why are we making
[3:25] Speaker 2: such a big deal out of this. Obviously he had
[3:27] Speaker 2: a very successful season from there, but the big test
[3:30] Speaker 2: comes playing for Texas Tech, a team that has dumped
[3:33] Speaker 2: money into nil, a team that made the College football
[3:35] Speaker 2: Playoff last year. This is where we're going to find
[3:37] Speaker 2: out whether he's got what it takes to become a
[3:40] Speaker 2: quality NFL prospect. In order to do that, he's got
[3:42] Speaker 2: to be on the field, So I guess it's good
[3:43] Speaker 2: for him. He's going to miss the first two games
[3:46] Speaker 2: the season as part of the agreement of that deal,
[3:48] Speaker 2: but we're going to see him on the field for
[3:50] Speaker 2: the important games and we'll get everything we need to
[3:52] Speaker 2: know about him prior to him going to the NFL.
[3:54] Speaker 1: Right, you can lose games and make the college football playoffs.
[3:56] Speaker 1: You can lose multiple games. One of those two games
[3:59] Speaker 1: is in against Appen Christian, so that barely counts. They
[4:03] Speaker 1: can certainly beat Oregon State or compete with Oregon State
[4:07] Speaker 1: with a backup quarterback anyways, But I had asked around
[4:10] Speaker 1: because this was coming. The supplemental draft has literally been
[4:13] Speaker 1: dead for four or five years, and there hasn't been
[4:15] Speaker 1: many significant players going that route. There was talk of, like,
[4:19] Speaker 1: you know, you know, in terms of pure ross skill set,
[4:22] Speaker 1: he could be someone teams really get excited about. I
[4:25] Speaker 1: did not get the sense that any team would probably
[4:28] Speaker 1: give up anything above a third round pick. I think
[4:31] Speaker 1: that's where the draft would have started. But maybe a
[4:34] Speaker 1: team like the Jets or some team that wanted to
[4:36] Speaker 1: get a year, you know, head start, and had an
[4:39] Speaker 1: extra third I think there would have been a conversation
[4:42] Speaker 1: whether he got taken in the third, fourth round.
[4:45] Speaker 3: Who knows.
[4:46] Speaker 1: Back in the day, he used to kind of say
[4:47] Speaker 1: supplemental draft like knock him.
[4:49] Speaker 3: Down around off of where he normally would would go.
[4:52] Speaker 1: But who knows what the rules are anymore? Either way,
[4:56] Speaker 1: who knows it rules even matter? I mean, if you
[4:58] Speaker 1: can gamble on your own team, oh and just still
[5:01] Speaker 1: keep playing.
[5:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a problem. I understand the nils argument in this.
[5:06] Speaker 3: It's not a slippery slope.
[5:07] Speaker 1: That's just the cliff, like the rubicon has been passed,
[5:10] Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if there's more to this story,
[5:13] Speaker 1: and that if this precedent changes down the road, because look,
[5:17] Speaker 1: weifford stories. He can't be gambling on NFL media, Chuck.
[5:21] Speaker 1: We heard some pretty reliable stories. So someone's name got
[5:26] Speaker 1: caught in the uh, you know, in the ether by
[5:30] Speaker 1: one of these gambling houses, and bye bye NFL media.
[5:34] Speaker 3: So we're off.
[5:35] Speaker 1: And it's crazy that Brandon Sowaresby is still playing, but
[5:37] Speaker 1: it's good for his career. Baker Mayfield is looking to
[5:41] Speaker 1: make more money franchise quarterback money. He's been on one
[5:45] Speaker 1: of the best deals in terms of team value for
[5:48] Speaker 1: the last few years. I've got three year, one hundred
[5:51] Speaker 1: million dollar contracts. So he's right at the bottom of
[5:54] Speaker 1: kind of the veteran quarterback market making about thirty three
[5:57] Speaker 1: million dollars a year. He wants a raise entering his
[6:00] Speaker 1: contract year, and he didn't sound happy about how the
[6:04] Speaker 1: negotiations are going.
[6:06] Speaker 4: Yeah, contract stuff, it's happening.
[6:08] Speaker 5: It's starting the talks and whatnot, but not anywhere close
[6:12] Speaker 5: to what you know, we were thinking. So would love
[6:17] Speaker 5: to be here long term and as of right now,
[6:19] Speaker 5: that's that's not exactly the case. But I'm under contract
[6:21] Speaker 5: for twenty twenty six, and the guys in that locker room,
[6:24] Speaker 5: the staff know that I'm still gonna be me. I'm
[6:27] Speaker 5: still gonna do everything I can to help this team
[6:29] Speaker 5: win a Super Bowl, and that's to me.
[6:30] Speaker 4: That's the priority. Everything else to take care of itself.
[6:33] Speaker 5: Obviously, yes, I would love to have a long term
[6:35] Speaker 5: deal done, but they know my deadline is as soon
[6:38] Speaker 5: as training camp starts.
[6:39] Speaker 4: We're not doing any contract stuff.
[6:40] Speaker 5: It's all ball, so it's not up to me when
[6:44] Speaker 5: that gets done by but so hopefully hopefully before that.
[6:47] Speaker 4: If not, we're gonna still gonna have a good year.
[6:50] Speaker 1: Good clip to listen to versus just read the headline
[6:53] Speaker 1: where it says not anywhere close set to deadline. I
[6:56] Speaker 1: think Baker Mayfield kind of straddled the line perfectly, just
[7:00] Speaker 1: saying where they're at. The Bucks, according to multiple reports,
[7:04] Speaker 1: had one initial offer that clearly Baker's camp is not
[7:08] Speaker 1: happy with. They have not sent a counter offer. We'll
[7:10] Speaker 1: see if this thing happens in the summer. But he's
[7:13] Speaker 1: also setting a deadline for the start of camp, which
[7:16] Speaker 1: is pretty early in the process or this is kind
[7:19] Speaker 1: of a story with Baker in his contract year that
[7:21] Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about all season long.
[7:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, I respect the approach because it eliminates the distraction,
[7:26] Speaker 2: which you know, if you can just set a hard
[7:28] Speaker 2: deadline of we're stopping negotiating here, then it gets rid
[7:31] Speaker 2: of the questions that are going to follow. But they're
[7:33] Speaker 2: still going to follow because it's the contract year. And
[7:35] Speaker 2: I also understand why they would take that approach given
[7:38] Speaker 2: his earning power, because he's coming off of a season
[7:40] Speaker 2: in which he was, you know, significantly affected by injury.
[7:43] Speaker 2: This whole offense was affected significantly by injury. We know
[7:46] Speaker 2: what happened with the Buccaneers over the last month and
[7:48] Speaker 2: a half of the season. It's not the best time
[7:50] Speaker 2: for him to sign an extension if that's the most recent,
[7:52] Speaker 2: you know, subset of data that you have when you're
[7:54] Speaker 2: trying to evaluate what he's worth to this team. So
[7:57] Speaker 2: it's best for him to try to go out there
[7:59] Speaker 2: and earn max value by having a bounce back year.
[8:01] Speaker 2: Not that he had a terrible year. He had a
[8:03] Speaker 2: great start to the year, he just didn't finish it strongly.
[8:05] Speaker 2: So he is a streaky player. But for him financially,
[8:07] Speaker 2: it makes the most sense and also mentally it makes
[8:10] Speaker 2: the most sense to stop here. I also can't envision
[8:12] Speaker 2: a world in which the Buccaneers would really consider not
[8:15] Speaker 2: signing him as just a matter of negotiation. As you know,
[8:19] Speaker 2: the Buccaneers throw out that first offer and Baker's group
[8:22] Speaker 2: doesn't counter. Got to build that leverage. Baby, We're a
[8:24] Speaker 2: long way away in the negotiating process right.
[8:27] Speaker 1: If it happens, it'll happen in kind of that dead
[8:29] Speaker 1: zone during July. But I do think he's a particularly
[8:33] Speaker 1: fascinating quarterback contract case because you know, someone I respect
[8:37] Speaker 1: a lot who we now work with at NFL Media.
[8:39] Speaker 1: Brett Coleman kind of pointed out on Twitter, no matter
[8:42] Speaker 1: what you think of Baker right now, he's the sixteenth
[8:44] Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback, you'd probably have him ranked higher than sixteen,
[8:48] Speaker 1: which is like an easy way to.
[8:49] Speaker 3: Think about him.
[8:50] Speaker 1: But I was a part of a podcast with Nate
[8:53] Speaker 1: Tyson Bill Barnwell where we went through and ranked the
[8:56] Speaker 1: guys and drafted him for just this season, we're going
[8:58] Speaker 1: to be doing something similar on our show, and we
[9:00] Speaker 1: took eighteen quarterbacks. He didn't get taken, and I think
[9:03] Speaker 1: reasonable minds could disagree. Put him fifteen sixteen, put him
[9:07] Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen. But that's how good and deep quarterbacks are
[9:12] Speaker 1: right now. I think it is the deepest collection of
[9:15] Speaker 1: quality starting quarterbacks since I've started covering the league twenty
[9:19] Speaker 1: years ago.
[9:19] Speaker 3: Right now, like we're twenty twenty.
[9:21] Speaker 1: Five deep of like guys that you feel pretty good about,
[9:24] Speaker 1: and so Baker is clearly in that middle range. How
[9:27] Speaker 1: much do you pay for that? If I'm Jason Light,
[9:30] Speaker 1: part of me wants to have my cake and eat
[9:31] Speaker 1: it too. Make it look like we're negotiating well with Baker.
[9:35] Speaker 1: Don't make him too mad. But he's thirty one years old,
[9:39] Speaker 1: he's undersized. Let's see if he's better this year. Because
[9:42] Speaker 1: if he's not better this year, I'm willing to play
[9:45] Speaker 1: that out with a franchise tag, see what happens. Possibly trade,
[9:48] Speaker 1: you know, trade him and see what's behind door number
[9:51] Speaker 1: two in about twelve months.
[9:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. It's funny that you mentioned those
[9:55] Speaker 2: eighteen guys that you took and he wasn't in that group.
[9:57] Speaker 2: He landed seventeenth on my end of twenty twenty fe
[10:00] Speaker 2: five QB Index he's sixteenth in average salary, so he's
[10:04] Speaker 2: kind of making proper accurate money unless he has that that,
[10:08] Speaker 2: you know, significantly improved year. I think your your argument's
[10:10] Speaker 2: great and explains a lot of why they stand where
[10:12] Speaker 2: they are right now. We'll see if it changes, but
[10:14] Speaker 2: right now I think it fits.
[10:16] Speaker 1: One quarterback trying unsuccessfully to get more money. As Jacoby Brissette,
[10:21] Speaker 1: our long national nightmare is over here, Shook. He is
[10:24] Speaker 1: showing up for mandatory mini camp work this week. Doesn't
[10:28] Speaker 1: mean he has a new contract. He's still only getting
[10:29] Speaker 1: paid like five million dollars this year. He's supposedly going
[10:32] Speaker 1: to be the starter, but he is there. The Cardinals
[10:35] Speaker 1: are one of seventeen teams Shook to have mandatory mini
[10:39] Speaker 1: camp this week. The forty nine ers have canceled there
[10:43] Speaker 1: is by the way, they're done already for the offseason.
[10:45] Speaker 1: Bye bye forty nine Ers until training camp, and most
[10:49] Speaker 1: of these teams that have the mandatory mini camp are
[10:52] Speaker 1: also done for the offseason after this week. The Dolphins
[10:57] Speaker 1: and Steelers had their mandatory mini camp last week. He
[11:00] Speaker 1: just wanted to kind of update where we're at in
[11:02] Speaker 1: the off season program. But Jacoby Brissette is back, So
[11:05] Speaker 1: I don't know what that means personally for your life
[11:08] Speaker 1: and how it changes how you It.
[11:10] Speaker 2: Makes me happy because that means that I may have
[11:14] Speaker 2: one or two less what's going on with Chehoby Vrsett
[11:17] Speaker 2: and the Cardinals posts in no, because.
[11:19] Speaker 1: He's gonna be talking, but the contract isn't done and
[11:22] Speaker 1: so you still got to figure that out after this week.
[11:24] Speaker 2: Apparently it's better than him not being there at all,
[11:27] Speaker 2: because at least you have some fresh information to work off.
[11:29] Speaker 3: Of last week.
[11:30] Speaker 1: It was funny they were like, well how about you know?
[11:33] Speaker 1: They asked Marvin Harrison about well, are you, you know,
[11:36] Speaker 1: figuring things out in this new scheme with Jacoby Brissette,
[11:39] Speaker 1: and he it was kind of an unfair question. He
[11:41] Speaker 1: was like, well, no, he'd have to be here for that.
[11:45] Speaker 1: But it does make you wonder. They're talking about Carson
[11:47] Speaker 1: Beck their third round pick as a potential started this year.
[11:50] Speaker 1: You have Gardner Minshew and Jacoby Brissett might lose out
[11:53] Speaker 1: on starts if he doesn't show up. Let's do some
[11:55] Speaker 1: contracts that happened since we last taped. Kristin Watson signed
[11:59] Speaker 1: a new contrack that I was surprised made a lot
[12:02] Speaker 1: of the Twitter sphere angry, why are you paying Kristin
[12:05] Speaker 1: Watson all this money? He's more of an idea of
[12:07] Speaker 1: a player than an actual player. But the total contract
[12:11] Speaker 1: terms were totally misleading. It wasn't one hundred and ten
[12:14] Speaker 1: million dollars. It was ninety seven and a half, which
[12:16] Speaker 1: is a pretty big difference. And then if you stretch
[12:19] Speaker 1: it out into five years, because it is an extension,
[12:21] Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's a little over twenty million
[12:25] Speaker 1: dollars a year for five years, which actually, to me
[12:29] Speaker 1: seems like a great value. He signed a thirty one
[12:32] Speaker 1: million dollar signing bonus. He showed a lot last year
[12:35] Speaker 1: when he came back from his injury, and I think
[12:38] Speaker 1: that's what helped get him this deal.
[12:40] Speaker 2: Right, And you know, in terms of apy where he
[12:42] Speaker 2: would land right now among all receivers between Jacoby Myers
[12:45] Speaker 2: and Chris Godwin, and at twenty seven years old, he
[12:48] Speaker 2: is firmly in the prime of his career, so it
[12:50] Speaker 2: makes all the sense of the world. I think it
[12:51] Speaker 2: also is an example of what Matt Lafleur has tried
[12:54] Speaker 2: to initiate this entire offseason, which was the strip it
[12:56] Speaker 2: down to the studs. Approach with the offense, simplifying things
[12:59] Speaker 2: by maybe getting rid of some players who weren't happy
[13:01] Speaker 2: with their roles, and then you know, clearly defining the
[13:04] Speaker 2: roles of those who are there. So how do you
[13:06] Speaker 2: get Watson in a better place? You give him an extension,
[13:09] Speaker 2: You handle that part of the equation, and then you
[13:11] Speaker 2: just pray and hope that he's on the field healthy
[13:12] Speaker 2: all year and that you can maximize what his talents are,
[13:14] Speaker 2: because I feel like for most of his career, the big,
[13:17] Speaker 2: like defining theme and the big drawback for him has
[13:19] Speaker 2: just been that he can stay healthy and stay on
[13:21] Speaker 2: the field consistently. So you pray for that, you hope
[13:24] Speaker 2: that your investment pays off, and then you look like
[13:26] Speaker 2: a genius three years from now.
[13:27] Speaker 1: He was a different player when he returned last year.
[13:29] Speaker 1: He was more of a complete player. But he's always
[13:32] Speaker 1: had the juice. He is literally the fastest player in
[13:35] Speaker 1: the NFL with the ball in his hands cumulatively over
[13:38] Speaker 1: the last four years, according to Next Gen stats.
[13:41] Speaker 3: At any position.
[13:42] Speaker 1: Now, of course, a receiver is going to have an
[13:44] Speaker 1: advantage there, and especially Christian Watson because a lot of
[13:47] Speaker 1: times he's spritten when he catches that ball and then
[13:50] Speaker 1: he keeps spritting.
[13:51] Speaker 3: But it does say.
[13:53] Speaker 1: Something that he's literally the fastest guy in the NFL
[13:55] Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands, and they're betting on
[13:58] Speaker 1: their own evaluation. Self scouting is so pot they let
[14:00] Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs go, and now it's it's Jaden Reid, it's
[14:05] Speaker 1: Christian Watson, it's Matthew Golden. They're all signed for the
[14:08] Speaker 1: next three plus years in that that's gonna be their course.
[14:12] Speaker 1: You talked about really kind of determining who their guys are.
[14:15] Speaker 1: The Steelers did the same, and one of their guys
[14:17] Speaker 1: is Darnel Washington. Another contract that I was amazed how
[14:21] Speaker 1: the reactions to it were so different. He signs a
[14:24] Speaker 1: four year, forty two million dollar extension, so only and
[14:28] Speaker 1: I say, only ten and a half million dollars a year,
[14:31] Speaker 1: but then you tack that onto his current year, it's
[14:33] Speaker 1: actually five years, forty five million dollars. I immediately thought,
[14:37] Speaker 1: this is one of the best bargains in the entire NFL,
[14:41] Speaker 1: and yet I saw a bunch of reactions. That's like,
[14:43] Speaker 1: what ten million dollars a year for a guy who's
[14:46] Speaker 1: never topped four hundred yards receiving that dude is a weapon.
[14:50] Speaker 1: In a world where Charlie Kohlar and all these blocking
[14:53] Speaker 1: tight ends are getting good contracts, Darnel Washington is the
[14:57] Speaker 1: best of all those players, and I think he is
[15:00] Speaker 1: worth even more than that, And like the Watson contract,
[15:04] Speaker 1: as long as he's healthy, that is going to age
[15:06] Speaker 1: extremely well for the Steelers.
[15:09] Speaker 2: He's an extremely difficult matchup because of his size. His
[15:12] Speaker 2: athleticism at his size is essentially built like a tackle
[15:15] Speaker 2: who also blocks and runs routes and catches footballs. But
[15:18] Speaker 2: you don't find those players just growing on trees anywhere.
[15:21] Speaker 2: But I think as a football world, and especially you
[15:24] Speaker 2: can't let the internet, you know, direct too much of
[15:26] Speaker 2: your thinking here, because the Internet is always a place
[15:28] Speaker 2: of extremes. But as a football world, we need to
[15:30] Speaker 2: understand that when we look at dollar values at face value,
[15:34] Speaker 2: we cannot simply overreact because player who you think hasn't
[15:37] Speaker 2: done that much is getting ten million dollars a year.
[15:39] Speaker 2: It's all relative to the market, and the market dictates.
[15:42] Speaker 2: Right now, he lands between Evan Ingram and Juwan Johnson
[15:45] Speaker 2: and just ahead of TJ. Howkinson, who was making good
[15:48] Speaker 2: money when he signed his deal. With the Vikings that
[15:50] Speaker 2: was a while ago. The market's increased, the cap continues
[15:52] Speaker 2: to increase. He's not getting overpaid. And when you look
[15:55] Speaker 2: at the Steelers' identity and their ability to rely on
[15:57] Speaker 2: so many different tight ends and the ability to go
[15:59] Speaker 2: heavy set and power run, even though it doesn't necessarily
[16:02] Speaker 2: always fit what Mike McCarthy has done over the course
[16:04] Speaker 2: of his career as a coach, it gives them options.
[16:06] Speaker 2: So you pay that guy at this time, you invest
[16:09] Speaker 2: now with the idea that it's going to pay off.
[16:11] Speaker 3: I'd rather have him than all those guys you just mentioned.
[16:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think its total Juwan Johnson not gonna lie.
[16:17] Speaker 2: I really liked you.
[16:18] Speaker 6: Man.
[16:18] Speaker 3: To me, it's not even close because you just have
[16:20] Speaker 3: a cla.
[16:20] Speaker 2: I'm not saying that completely, no, but yeah, I mean.
[16:24] Speaker 3: You can disagree.
[16:25] Speaker 1: But man, there was something about watching them there in
[16:30] Speaker 1: Dublin and just see what a problem he was for
[16:34] Speaker 1: the opposition that I'm just so impressed by him. And
[16:36] Speaker 1: the NFL told you how much they value tight ends
[16:38] Speaker 1: because they keep forcing these second round picks on them.
[16:40] Speaker 1: The best case scenario, one of those guys turns into
[16:43] Speaker 1: a Darnel Washington and they have him locked up. I
[16:46] Speaker 1: really like what they did with the Herbig and the
[16:48] Speaker 1: Darnel Washington signings over the last few weeks. Let's talk
[16:52] Speaker 1: about the Vikings quarterback battle, which we never really believed
[16:56] Speaker 1: was going to be a battle, and we have more
[16:59] Speaker 1: reason and to believe that. I know it's a quiet
[17:02] Speaker 1: time of year, but podcasts I listened to Purple Daily
[17:05] Speaker 1: made a big deal of this. And then like with
[17:07] Speaker 1: the headline, is the Vikings quarterback battle already over? And
[17:10] Speaker 1: it was partly off of a conversation Tom pelisera from
[17:14] Speaker 1: the NFL network, had on Kfan. But Tom, you know,
[17:17] Speaker 1: has lived in the area, has covered that team forever.
[17:20] Speaker 1: When he talks Vikings, it matters a little more to him.
[17:22] Speaker 1: And to summarize what he said, he said, look, they've
[17:25] Speaker 1: started out with the snaps fifty to fifty. He would
[17:28] Speaker 1: not be surprised if that changed starting now, you know,
[17:33] Speaker 1: starting soon, if it will no longer be fifty to fifty,
[17:36] Speaker 1: they will want to have a winner and get that
[17:39] Speaker 1: winner more snaps.
[17:41] Speaker 3: And he was not.
[17:42] Speaker 1: Saying who won necessarily or who is winning, but if
[17:46] Speaker 1: it was Kyler Murray, would there be a situation with
[17:50] Speaker 1: Carson Wentz in the building, And every time that Kevin
[17:53] Speaker 1: O'Connell can give Carson Wentz some love in front of
[17:56] Speaker 1: a podium, he does it. He just loves Carson Wentz
[17:59] Speaker 1: as his like veteran back. With Carson Wentz also in
[18:01] Speaker 1: the building, would it make sense for them to see
[18:04] Speaker 1: if they could possibly trade JJ McCarthy in the meantime
[18:09] Speaker 1: that would indicate who is winning this battle?
[18:11] Speaker 3: Could it be over before it started?
[18:13] Speaker 1: And do you think JJ McCarthy is on the Vikings
[18:16] Speaker 1: roster in week one?
[18:18] Speaker 2: M okay? So a few things have to be true
[18:23] Speaker 2: this For him to not be on the Vikings roster
[18:25] Speaker 2: of one, there has to be a significant injury elsewhere,
[18:28] Speaker 2: or there has to be such increased intrigue in JJ
[18:31] Speaker 2: McCarthy's future from one team that doesn't have an answer
[18:33] Speaker 2: right now. I'm looking at the Browns for somebody to
[18:37] Speaker 2: pick up the phone and make that phone call. But
[18:39] Speaker 2: there also has to be clear separation in camp and
[18:42] Speaker 2: preference toward Kyler Murray, which I think loses some of
[18:46] Speaker 2: the Vikings leverage, but that kind of signals that, hey,
[18:48] Speaker 2: maybe JJ is available. I think that that's the direction
[18:50] Speaker 2: we're headed in in that it's going to be Kyler's job.
[18:53] Speaker 2: We talked about this already that we believe it's already
[18:55] Speaker 2: Kyler's job. And when you listen to Tom talk about
[18:58] Speaker 2: the Vikings, like you said, it means more. It matters
[19:00] Speaker 2: more because he's extremely well connected to that building. It's
[19:03] Speaker 2: not just throwing out there, you know, brought prognostications. He
[19:06] Speaker 2: knows like he knows what's going on there, and I
[19:09] Speaker 2: think we all kind of know that this is other's
[19:11] Speaker 2: job to lose as long as the Vikings can determine
[19:14] Speaker 2: that he can play within the structure of Kevin O'Connell's offense.
[19:16] Speaker 2: And I think he's going to prove that over the
[19:17] Speaker 2: next few months. But to get a change like he's
[19:21] Speaker 2: Cayler's twenty eight years old. If that's your long term answer,
[19:23] Speaker 2: then you don't need JJ anymore. If might not capitalize
[19:26] Speaker 2: on the value associated with him while you still can.
[19:28] Speaker 1: It's just funny the competition, like when is he going
[19:31] Speaker 1: to prove it?
[19:32] Speaker 3: He doesn't.
[19:32] Speaker 4: Really.
[19:33] Speaker 1: They got to see him on the grass and get
[19:34] Speaker 1: to know him in the meetings and maybe that confirmed
[19:36] Speaker 1: what they hoped and expected. But Tom indicated, Look, they
[19:41] Speaker 1: don't want to take this thing deep into the training camp,
[19:43] Speaker 1: maybe not into training camp at all. He said this
[19:45] Speaker 1: could be determined in the spring, and then if that
[19:49] Speaker 1: was determined, and it was determined in favor of Kyler,
[19:51] Speaker 1: then JJ McCarthy could be elsewhere. I get the feeling,
[19:54] Speaker 1: and this is also listening to to this Purple Daily
[19:57] Speaker 1: Guys in just the coverage in general.
[20:01] Speaker 3: Feels a little personal.
[20:02] Speaker 1: It feels like this relationship, this marriage between Kevin O'Connell
[20:08] Speaker 1: and a high draft pick, was going to be the
[20:10] Speaker 1: franchise has gone pretty poorly and it's crazy to think,
[20:14] Speaker 1: but they could be trading a top ten pick, you know,
[20:20] Speaker 1: before it even gets to the third year for pennies
[20:24] Speaker 1: on the dollar, because what are you going to get
[20:25] Speaker 1: for Jaia McCarthy.
[20:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, trade, well, it could be worse. You know, who
[20:28] Speaker 2: would like to trade their former top five pick for
[20:31] Speaker 2: pennies on the dollar if they could? The Indianapolis Colts.
[20:34] Speaker 1: Okay, sure, I was like the forty nine ers back
[20:37] Speaker 1: in the Tree Lance days.
[20:38] Speaker 3: But no, they just told.
[20:42] Speaker 1: That just ended these things happen, speaking of the forty
[20:45] Speaker 1: nine ers and wanting to get some trade value that
[20:48] Speaker 1: they can't. Brandon Ayuk is still on the forty nine
[20:52] Speaker 1: ers roster. He had some Instagram content over the weekend.
[20:58] Speaker 1: Did you watch this shook? I wouldn't blame you if.
[21:01] Speaker 2: You'day I got a glimpse, but what I saw more
[21:02] Speaker 2: than anything was his shirtless selfie on his story.
[21:06] Speaker 1: He also had a commanders at at one point on
[21:09] Speaker 1: while shirtless too. It's a difficult situation to talk about,
[21:15] Speaker 1: but basically he was talking for a minute a couple
[21:20] Speaker 1: of minutes, almost threatening obscurely the forty nine ers. He
[21:26] Speaker 1: kept using the freight stop, running from the belt, like
[21:29] Speaker 1: you know what's gonna come? I'm you know what type
[21:31] Speaker 1: of player I am? He didn't sound well, and that's
[21:36] Speaker 1: why I think it's it's a tricky situation. I think
[21:38] Speaker 1: it's a tricky situation for the Commanders to dive into
[21:41] Speaker 1: if they're going to I have always believed that the
[21:44] Speaker 1: forty nine ers are not going to get anything for
[21:46] Speaker 1: Brandon Nayuk, and I don't think these Instagram stories are
[21:49] Speaker 1: going to help. But it's just a reminder as he
[21:53] Speaker 1: like publicly sort of challenges the forty nine ers as
[21:57] Speaker 1: he's dealing with these traffic, you know, citation and all
[22:00] Speaker 1: this other stuff that It's still a situation that is happening,
[22:04] Speaker 1: and I don't know why the forty nine ers are
[22:06] Speaker 1: continuing to hold on to him. Let's go to Denver,
[22:08] Speaker 1: where Jonathan Cooper, the edge rusher, was arrested for domestic
[22:13] Speaker 1: violence in criminal mischief charges over the weekend. It was
[22:17] Speaker 1: related to an incident with his girlfriend. Obviously, any domestic
[22:22] Speaker 1: violence charges are going to be treated very seriously by.
[22:25] Speaker 3: The team and the league.
[22:26] Speaker 1: He, unlike a lot of players who are in similar situations,
[22:30] Speaker 1: almost immediately apologized on social media to his family, community
[22:36] Speaker 1: and friends. That was on an Instagram story post, and
[22:40] Speaker 1: so we will be tracking that. The league and the
[22:42] Speaker 1: Broncos confirmed they are aware and they are monitoring the situation.
[22:46] Speaker 1: All right, that's kind of our hard news portion of
[22:48] Speaker 1: the show, Chuck. We're going to take a quick break
[22:50] Speaker 1: and we're going to come back with a lot of
[22:52] Speaker 1: sound with Ben Jonson, who we talked about before, with
[22:54] Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, Trent Williams, some fallout from the Big trades
[22:57] Speaker 1: last week, and yes, as I mentioned, little takeaways from Madden.
[23:02] Speaker 3: Let's take a break. We'll be back in a minute.
[23:12] Speaker 3: Back on NFL Daily.
[23:13] Speaker 1: While Shook was hob nobbing with all the gamers influencers
[23:21] Speaker 1: covering the release of the new Madden I was out
[23:25] Speaker 1: here grinding tape on social media and nothing was getting
[23:29] Speaker 1: more reactions shook than Ben Johnson getting very upset. This
[23:33] Speaker 1: actually happened like the second we last taped. Our taped
[23:36] Speaker 1: our last show, and it cracked me up so much
[23:38] Speaker 1: that we had to play it on our news recap.
[23:41] Speaker 1: Let's listen to Ben Johnson getting interrupted at the podium.
[23:45] Speaker 7: I'm really pleased with the teaching progression. I've been able
[23:47] Speaker 7: to sit in some meetings and I love how the
[23:49] Speaker 7: coaches are going about their business. I like how the
[23:52] Speaker 7: players are responding to it. Right now, we're all on
[23:54] Speaker 7: the same page. We're speaking the same language, and that's
[23:57] Speaker 7: always a good starting point.
[23:59] Speaker 5: Oh, now that you've got a year under your belt,
[24:04] Speaker 5: how does it feel?
[24:05] Speaker 3: How do you feel about your position, what you're doing?
[24:09] Speaker 7: Somebody want to take their phone so I'm not interrupted again? Thanks?
[24:19] Speaker 2: Okay, I can I defend him please? When Well, First off,
[24:25] Speaker 2: it's funny because when we were talking earlier in the show,
[24:28] Speaker 2: I got a phone call too, but my phone didn't
[24:30] Speaker 2: ring when I am in public and I'm in his
[24:34] Speaker 2: setting in which somebody is speaking and something like this
[24:37] Speaker 2: is happening, wedding reception, anything, and I hear a phone
[24:41] Speaker 2: start ringing. I get extremely anxious because I'm like, oh
[24:44] Speaker 2: my god, how did you leave that on? Oh my god,
[24:46] Speaker 2: that's interrupting everything. However, never have I thought I'm going
[24:50] Speaker 2: to get so angry that I'm just going to direct
[24:52] Speaker 2: I mean, I felt like he was. You were getting
[24:54] Speaker 2: yelled at in high school class by your teacher.
[24:57] Speaker 3: It's why it helps to watch the video.
[24:59] Speaker 1: We thank everyone that's checking out NFL daily on YouTube,
[25:02] Speaker 1: like subscribe. Uh, we're putting these shows up after after
[25:07] Speaker 1: the audio and sometimes just with the audio and his face.
[25:12] Speaker 3: He was furious.
[25:14] Speaker 1: It almost gave me a little bit of a takeaway,
[25:18] Speaker 1: which was why is Ben Jonson this tight and amped
[25:24] Speaker 1: up and nervous in the middle of May or at
[25:29] Speaker 1: the end of May they started June, We're at ots.
[25:32] Speaker 1: It's it's a huge faux pad. The reporter apologized publicly.
[25:35] Speaker 1: Terrible job by the reporter. I'm not I'm not saying
[25:38] Speaker 1: it's not, but just for him to just completely lose
[25:41] Speaker 1: his temper in that moment was just like he didn't
[25:45] Speaker 1: completely maybe not completely.
[25:46] Speaker 2: He was very controlled, but that the sign was when
[25:48] Speaker 2: he put his head down. That's fair, That's fair because
[25:50] Speaker 2: that was him seething like I cannot believe somebody left
[25:53] Speaker 2: their ring or on right now, you know what, I understand.
[25:55] Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I'm just saying it's June.
[25:58] Speaker 1: I'm worried about his his stress level because good point,
[26:02] Speaker 1: he didn't lose his temper. But I'm worried about the
[26:04] Speaker 1: stress level of him holding in what was a joke,
[26:09] Speaker 1: intense rage.
[26:10] Speaker 3: He wanted to kill someone.
[26:12] Speaker 1: But maybe that that's why he gets the great performances
[26:15] Speaker 1: out of his bears that he does. They're all afraid
[26:17] Speaker 1: of him. Dan Campbell, I think has a softer touch.
[26:20] Speaker 1: Let's listen to him talk about one of his favorite players,
[26:24] Speaker 1: Jimmy or Games.
[26:25] Speaker 6: Well, Gibbs is, I mean he is. He's going to
[26:27] Speaker 6: be our bell count now. You know, he really became
[26:30] Speaker 6: more of that last year. And uh, but we're you know,
[26:34] Speaker 6: we're gonna hang our hat on him quite a bit.
[26:35] Speaker 6: You know, we're gonna we're gonna do a lot of
[26:37] Speaker 6: things we feel like he does.
[26:38] Speaker 4: Well.
[26:38] Speaker 6: Now I've mentioned this before. He can he can run
[26:41] Speaker 6: everything that we've got. He can run every scheme that
[26:43] Speaker 6: anybody's ever run. You know, he's not just an outside runner.
[26:47] Speaker 6: He's not just a space runner. He can create his
[26:49] Speaker 6: own space in the middle. And some of his biggest
[26:51] Speaker 6: runs have been gap scheme right down the pipe, you know,
[26:54] Speaker 6: where he's had patience and found it and Guy's blocked
[26:56] Speaker 6: it up. Well, so we're going to ask a lot
[26:59] Speaker 6: of him.
[26:59] Speaker 3: So this is the portion of the show.
[27:01] Speaker 1: If you didn't notice it that we're playing a lot
[27:03] Speaker 1: of sound, we'll call it the Sound Garden portion of
[27:07] Speaker 1: the show. My son Walker said it's his favorite part
[27:12] Speaker 1: of the show when we play some sound, and I
[27:14] Speaker 1: know our producer Eric Roberts agrees with that. Do you
[27:17] Speaker 1: think this clip was worth it? And what did you
[27:20] Speaker 1: learn from this clip?
[27:21] Speaker 2: Yes, it was worth it because today is June eighth
[27:25] Speaker 2: and it's that time of year. What did I think
[27:29] Speaker 2: of that? I felt like he was just confirming what
[27:31] Speaker 2: we already saw last year with the way that their
[27:33] Speaker 2: backfield kind of evolved and why they moved on from
[27:35] Speaker 2: David Montgomery when they did. I'm honestly, this is very
[27:39] Speaker 2: like low Hanging Fruit here. I just want to know
[27:41] Speaker 2: what Soundgarden song would fit that clip? Because I'm thinking
[27:44] Speaker 2: like spoon Man, black Hole Sun, like, which one are
[27:46] Speaker 2: we going with here?
[27:47] Speaker 1: I mean I only know a handful, I have to admit,
[27:50] Speaker 1: but black Hole Sun Sneaky High on the played the
[27:55] Speaker 1: most on MTV during my youth rankings. I mean, I
[28:00] Speaker 1: can't remember a song that was played more than black Holes,
[28:02] Speaker 1: and to the point where I started to hate Sound
[28:04] Speaker 1: Garden just because I was just sick of that video
[28:06] Speaker 1: and song.
[28:08] Speaker 2: But a great band, great band and a good quote,
[28:11] Speaker 2: and I.
[28:12] Speaker 1: Bet Dan Campbell is a fan of it. I mean
[28:14] Speaker 1: he still makes that podium look small. I'm still I'm
[28:16] Speaker 1: still more afraid of Dan Campbell than I am of
[28:19] Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. And yes, Jamier Gibbs RB one or RB
[28:22] Speaker 1: two in your fantasy drafts this season.
[28:25] Speaker 3: I think it's pretty obvious.
[28:26] Speaker 1: Let's talk about Trent Williams, who spoke with the media
[28:30] Speaker 1: last week. He is back with the forty nine ers.
[28:33] Speaker 1: He was not excited about the Miles Garrett trade, said
[28:37] Speaker 1: that sucked.
[28:38] Speaker 3: I wasn't looking forward to playing him.
[28:40] Speaker 1: Was joking around but saying, yeah, that's gonna make his
[28:43] Speaker 1: life a little harder. He signed a new contract that
[28:45] Speaker 1: signs it, that gets him extended through the next two
[28:49] Speaker 1: years now and kind of spoke about where he is
[28:52] Speaker 1: at this point of his career.
[28:54] Speaker 4: Got a form of this question a lot.
[28:55] Speaker 8: But having just said what you said about playing the
[28:57] Speaker 8: next two years, did did.
[28:59] Speaker 2: It cross your mind that this would be the last
[29:00] Speaker 2: contract you signed?
[29:01] Speaker 4: Or are you still yeah?
[29:03] Speaker 9: Yeah, so where did you envision this being in or
[29:05] Speaker 9: probably yeah?
[29:07] Speaker 4: What's what's that thought like?
[29:08] Speaker 1: Then?
[29:08] Speaker 6: When you scary scary?
[29:12] Speaker 9: You know, I'm toying in between ideas going to I
[29:15] Speaker 9: can no more and just you know, even while still
[29:19] Speaker 9: got some good product lefts, you know, and not getting
[29:22] Speaker 9: ran out the league.
[29:23] Speaker 1: It's funny to think of even a Trent Williams saying
[29:26] Speaker 1: that it is also funny to think about his reputation,
[29:28] Speaker 1: which was totally unfair when he was in Washington, and
[29:31] Speaker 1: now he's turned into to me, a first ballot Hall
[29:33] Speaker 1: of Famer that we get to see up against Miles
[29:35] Speaker 1: Garrett for a couple more years. And what we've seen
[29:37] Speaker 1: with these guys like a Jason peters Stipe, where if
[29:39] Speaker 1: he's still playing well and after the next two years,
[29:42] Speaker 1: like hey, why not why not have him keep played?
[29:44] Speaker 3: You're you're making eyes. He's thirty seven years old that year.
[29:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, because Trent is also thinking about the way Jason
[29:50] Speaker 2: Peter's career ended, which wasn't great. He took a noticeable
[29:55] Speaker 2: step back, three steps back. By the time he was
[29:57] Speaker 2: finishing his career. He was a great tackle for the
[29:59] Speaker 2: majority of career and his story was great. But you're right,
[30:01] Speaker 2: it's also I think an examination or just a good
[30:03] Speaker 2: example of how being with a bad team can ruin
[30:06] Speaker 2: your reputation and then being with a stable franchise that
[30:09] Speaker 2: has a good place for you can elevate your reputation
[30:12] Speaker 2: that mirrors your play and then gets you the recognition
[30:14] Speaker 2: you deserve. But I agree, And it's funny because I
[30:15] Speaker 2: think he when he talks about getting right out of
[30:17] Speaker 2: the league, I think he's just thinking about oh man,
[30:20] Speaker 2: like he turns thirty eight next month. Oh god, I'm
[30:23] Speaker 2: forty years old. I'm facing like thirty two year old
[30:25] Speaker 2: Miles Garrett just getting toasted. That's not going to be
[30:28] Speaker 2: a good look for me. I understand that definitely.
[30:31] Speaker 1: And he is coming off what I would say was
[30:33] Speaker 1: his worst season in San Francisco, where he had some
[30:37] Speaker 1: ups and downs, which usually you don't see with him.
[30:39] Speaker 1: I still think in the end he was probably a
[30:42] Speaker 1: top five six' eight tackle whatever the number. Is but
[30:46] Speaker 1: it started off. Poor the playoff game was just like not.
[30:49] Speaker 1: Great he wasn't at that totally elite level as. Before
[30:54] Speaker 1: and you, mentioned, yeah playing for a bad franchise In
[30:57] Speaker 1: washington before in The Dan snyder.
[30:59] Speaker 3: ERA i, mean that was the worst. Franchise you.
[31:01] Speaker 1: Know it's like everyone's just bickering and there's contract. Dispeak
[31:04] Speaker 1: they didn't want to play him what he was. Worth
[31:06] Speaker 1: speaking of, That Miles garrett, Trade Denzel ward said On
[31:10] Speaker 1: Your browns at his softball event that he definitely wants
[31:12] Speaker 1: to stay with The, browns and the indications from The
[31:14] Speaker 1: browns are that they want to keep Denziel. Ward no
[31:17] Speaker 1: trade sign On Denzel. Ward that, said if we get
[31:19] Speaker 1: into the middle of the season and The browns are
[31:21] Speaker 1: losing a lot of games and teams start, calling it
[31:23] Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me personally If Denzel ward got. Traded some
[31:26] Speaker 1: more contexts on the trades that went down last. WEEK
[31:28] Speaker 1: i thought it was. Interesting Albert breer said that The,
[31:31] Speaker 1: rams you, know got pretty far along WITH Aj, brown
[31:35] Speaker 1: but they had concerns about his. Knee he has a
[31:38] Speaker 1: degenerative quote unquote knee. Condition that is part of the
[31:42] Speaker 1: reason why The titans traded him in the first, place
[31:44] Speaker 1: according To, breer but he's played.
[31:46] Speaker 3: Well through it.
[31:47] Speaker 1: Clearly also thought it was interesting That brown listed four
[31:51] Speaker 1: teams in THE afc that he would have liked to go.
[31:53] Speaker 1: To those four teams The Buffalo, bills The Kansas City,
[31:56] Speaker 1: chiefs The Los Angeles, chargers and The Patriot it's all
[32:00] Speaker 1: of them have great, quarterbacks and apparently only The bills
[32:05] Speaker 1: showed even the scant amount of. Interest but then they
[32:08] Speaker 1: did THE Dj moore trade, anyways and that just left
[32:10] Speaker 1: The patriots bitting against The. Rams and one of the
[32:13] Speaker 1: interesting parts of briers story was The patriots told The, rams,
[32:19] Speaker 1: look if you can get a first and second godspeed,
[32:21] Speaker 1: this you can trade him somewhere.
[32:23] Speaker 3: Else we're just gonna hang.
[32:24] Speaker 1: Tight and so when The rams deal fell, apart which
[32:27] Speaker 1: sounded like it was more that they couldn't find a
[32:29] Speaker 1: taker For DeVante adams Than brown was just sitting out,
[32:32] Speaker 1: THERE i just threw a lot at, You BUT i
[32:34] Speaker 1: thought it was just interesting context in a lot of,
[32:36] Speaker 1: ways including the fact that if you have a great franchise,
[32:39] Speaker 1: quarterback a guy like Aj brown would be happy to
[32:41] Speaker 1: go to your.
[32:42] Speaker 3: G what a.
[32:43] Speaker 2: Concept great receiver wants to play with great. Quarterback amazing.
[32:47] Speaker 2: Revelatory WHEN i hear degenitive, KNEES i always think about
[32:51] Speaker 2: the NBA's Brandon, roy one of my favorite players of
[32:54] Speaker 2: that generation to played with The, trailblazers and his career
[32:57] Speaker 2: ended too soon because of those knee. Issues AND i
[32:59] Speaker 2: always fear a similar demise for other players in other.
[33:02] Speaker 2: Sports but so far we haven't really seen any signs of.
[33:04] Speaker 2: It it's been more about the dysfunction that he dealt
[33:06] Speaker 2: with with The. Eagles you, know some of it brought
[33:08] Speaker 2: brought about by, himself with leaking information and everything. Else
[33:12] Speaker 2: i'm fine with. IT i think, that you, know you
[33:15] Speaker 2: ride this out and see how far you can take
[33:17] Speaker 2: it for the remainder of his, career because at this, point,
[33:19] Speaker 2: he's you, know already twenty, eight turns twenty nine In.
[33:21] Speaker 2: June it's not like he's got a ton of prime
[33:23] Speaker 2: years left ahead of, him so it works. Out it's
[33:26] Speaker 2: just something to, MONITOR i, think as he makes the
[33:28] Speaker 2: transition to become A. Patriot it's funny that The chiefs were,
[33:30] Speaker 2: listed not because you, know it's it's a, surprise but
[33:33] Speaker 2: just because we sat back and we're, like could The
[33:35] Speaker 2: chiefs be? Involved and apparently sounds like they.
[33:38] Speaker 1: Weren't, yeah they didn't according to the, reporting make any
[33:42] Speaker 1: interest known About. BRIER i, MEAN i love these like
[33:47] Speaker 1: late later like reporting on these, contracts and it'll be.
[33:50] Speaker 3: Interesting you.
[33:50] Speaker 1: Know brown did show a little bit of slowness last,
[33:53] Speaker 1: year missed sometimes because of the knee.
[33:55] Speaker 3: Injury so that's the big risk.
[33:56] Speaker 1: That on the other, hand he sounds Like Randy moss
[33:59] Speaker 1: sounds when he got to The patriots at an older,
[34:01] Speaker 1: age you, know back in two thousand and. SEVEN i
[34:04] Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna produce like, that BUT i think
[34:06] Speaker 1: he could have a great honeymoon. Year last item In
[34:10] Speaker 1: soundgarden is From New york The giants And Odell. Beckham
[34:15] Speaker 1: he is back With New, york And i've seen a
[34:18] Speaker 1: lot of the reporters being, like why would they sign
[34:20] Speaker 1: him when he's not you, know and then you also
[34:23] Speaker 1: Signed juju And braxton, various all these guys like they're
[34:27] Speaker 1: on minimum, contracts And odell knows where he stands right
[34:31] Speaker 1: now in the football pecking.
[34:32] Speaker 4: ORDER i like it this. WAY i feel like.
[34:36] Speaker 8: It's gonna bring it's gonna elevate, me it's gonna bring
[34:38] Speaker 8: me up to have to earn.
[34:40] Speaker 4: It you.
[34:41] Speaker 8: Know coach AND i talked about. THAT i think that
[34:43] Speaker 8: was one of his. Fears he was, LIKE i love
[34:44] Speaker 8: you so much AND i got so much respect for,
[34:46] Speaker 8: You LIKE i don't want to bring you here and
[34:48] Speaker 8: then have to cut you or. Whatever And i'm, like,
[34:51] Speaker 8: Listen i'm going out on my sword either way it.
[34:53] Speaker 8: Goes so if that's what you got to, do when
[34:56] Speaker 8: you see That i'm not best or, fit then you
[34:59] Speaker 8: know about all.
[35:00] Speaker 4: Means i'm good with, it AND i could live with.
[35:01] Speaker 8: IT i can't live with sitting at home like not
[35:06] Speaker 8: doing not doing. It you, KNOW i just couldn't do.
[35:09] Speaker 3: It good that he's. Realistic do you think that he
[35:11] Speaker 3: makes The giants?
[35:12] Speaker 9: Roster.
[35:13] Speaker 2: Hmmm they have a lot of options by making these.
[35:16] Speaker 2: Additions they have a ton of, options like their top
[35:18] Speaker 2: three of Neighbors slayton And. Mooney but then you continue
[35:20] Speaker 2: to go down the, list you Get Malachai, Fields Calvin
[35:22] Speaker 2: austin comes. OVER i think he'll be an ideal fit
[35:24] Speaker 2: in this offense as. Well then you get down to
[35:26] Speaker 2: Where Jalen hyatt, is who is a youngster that they're
[35:29] Speaker 2: not going to move on. From and then you get
[35:30] Speaker 2: To odell And juju And Braxton, Barrius like there's just
[35:33] Speaker 2: not enough seats at the table for all of these.
[35:35] Speaker 2: Guys AND i don't know what type of situation he's
[35:38] Speaker 2: in physically at this, point because he's dealt with so
[35:40] Speaker 2: much over the last few years health, Wise but if
[35:42] Speaker 2: he can come anything close to even where he, was
[35:45] Speaker 2: IF i would, say like maybe end of, rams LIKE
[35:48] Speaker 2: i wouldn't go further back than, that BUT i think
[35:50] Speaker 2: he's got a. Shot more than. Anything it really warms
[35:54] Speaker 2: my heart if somebody who got to know him when
[35:56] Speaker 2: he was In cleveland to see the Mature odell, who,
[35:58] Speaker 2: like you, know he's not worried about the fame and
[36:00] Speaker 2: how this might be perceived this way or that way
[36:02] Speaker 2: or the. Other like he's just speaking honestly and he's, like, look,
[36:05] Speaker 2: man this is probably my last, shot AND i still
[36:07] Speaker 2: want to play, football so however it, goes however it,
[36:10] Speaker 2: GOES i love. THAT i love that for a guy
[36:12] Speaker 2: who has spent so much of his career in a
[36:14] Speaker 2: spotlight that he didn't necessarily ever really want for him
[36:17] Speaker 2: to go out at LEAST i think that's kind of
[36:18] Speaker 2: on his own terms at this. Point good for.
[36:20] Speaker 1: Him you figure neighbors might not be ready for the
[36:24] Speaker 1: start of the. Season whether he starts on pup or
[36:26] Speaker 1: pup blist something you know or ir maybe that opens
[36:31] Speaker 1: up a. Spot, slayton you would think is close to a,
[36:35] Speaker 1: lock but you never. Know they might look to trade it.
[36:37] Speaker 1: Him mooney is a, Lock fields is a. Lock after,
[36:41] Speaker 1: that it's pretty wide. Open if everyone's. Healthy It's odell
[36:45] Speaker 1: And Calvin austen And Isaiah hodgens And. JUJU i don't
[36:48] Speaker 1: Think Jalen hyatts necessarily making this, team so they're all
[36:51] Speaker 1: battling for one or two. Spots we're talking about a
[36:53] Speaker 1: guy who will Be it would be a great, story
[36:55] Speaker 1: but is, probably you, know a third or fourth receiver at.
[36:58] Speaker 1: Best if everything goes well and he seems to understand,
[37:01] Speaker 1: that let's do just a couple of. NUGGETS i want
[37:04] Speaker 1: to MENTION Aj, barner the Great Seahawks. Titan i'm calling him.
[37:08] Speaker 1: Great i'm putting him in the top. Ten is coming
[37:10] Speaker 1: out two surgeries from last, offseason but he is expected
[37:13] Speaker 1: to be ready for training, camp so we didn't know
[37:15] Speaker 1: that he had multiple.
[37:17] Speaker 3: Surgeries it's a little.
[37:18] Speaker 1: Concerning Deron, bland who had a foot, surgery And Donovan
[37:22] Speaker 1: azeraku of The, cowboys who had a hit. Problem both
[37:27] Speaker 1: say they're going to be ready for the start of
[37:29] Speaker 1: camp full. Go Russell wilson has. Retired we think he
[37:36] Speaker 1: released a video that said goodbye to. FOOTBALL i feel
[37:39] Speaker 1: like there's a ten percent chance some team will come
[37:42] Speaker 1: calling in the middle of the season and he could
[37:44] Speaker 1: be back as a. Backup it didn't exactly say, retire
[37:46] Speaker 1: but he just he SAID i love you, football BUT
[37:50] Speaker 1: i did want to kind of go over His hall
[37:52] Speaker 1: Of fame.
[37:52] Speaker 3: CASE i feel like this is as good a time
[37:54] Speaker 3: as any.
[37:55] Speaker 1: You, have like a gut reaction of Where russ just
[38:00] Speaker 1: an incredible, career an incredible. PLAYER i don't want him
[38:05] Speaker 1: falling off a cliff From denver onward to be what
[38:09] Speaker 1: we remember.
[38:10] Speaker 3: Because he had ten seasons In.
[38:12] Speaker 1: Seattle that's his career right, there and ten seasons to
[38:14] Speaker 1: me is enough to make A hall Of fame case,
[38:17] Speaker 1: plenty AND i think he has. One BUT i Guess
[38:21] Speaker 1: i'm curious of where you see him in kind of
[38:23] Speaker 1: the big picture career arc pecking.
[38:26] Speaker 2: Order ten Time pro bowler obviously a one Time Super bowl,
[38:30] Speaker 2: champion got there in back to back years with The,
[38:32] Speaker 2: seahawks and while if they would have handled the ball To,
[38:35] Speaker 2: marshawn he could be a two Time Super bowl. Champion but,
[38:37] Speaker 2: well we won't spend time rehashing. That there were multiple
[38:40] Speaker 2: seasons when he was at his peak where he was
[38:42] Speaker 2: a LEGITIMATE mvp candidate for at least a portion of that.
[38:46] Speaker 2: Campaign AND i WHEN i think about if we could
[38:50] Speaker 2: strip out The denver experience the last four years from his,
[38:53] Speaker 2: career if he ended after the twenty twenty one season In,
[38:56] Speaker 2: seattle he's going to The hall Of. Fame so but
[38:59] Speaker 2: that's all that should.
[38:59] Speaker 3: MEANT i don't think you should ever.
[39:01] Speaker 2: Hear her saying, like where are you at your? Peak
[39:02] Speaker 2: when he was at his, peak he was a bona fide,
[39:04] Speaker 2: superstar one of the best quarterbacks in THE nfl for
[39:07] Speaker 2: five six. Years so, okay, yeah he gets in. Eventually
[39:09] Speaker 2: he's not first, ballot BUT i think he gets in.
[39:11] Speaker 2: Eventually so IF.
[39:12] Speaker 1: I was a, VOTER i would not hold the end
[39:14] Speaker 1: of the year the latter years against. Him now for
[39:17] Speaker 1: other people like A Matt ryan Or Matthew, stafford the
[39:20] Speaker 1: fact that they had cumulative great years in years, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen.
[39:26] Speaker 1: Whatever it is obviously works in their favor if you're
[39:29] Speaker 1: comparing them apples to apples Versus Russell. Wilson so it
[39:33] Speaker 1: does hurt him in that way when you're comparing into other,
[39:35] Speaker 1: quarterbacks and that is how this goes. Sometimes BUT i
[39:37] Speaker 1: think ten years is long enough to potentially have A
[39:39] Speaker 1: hall Of fame.
[39:39] Speaker 3: Career now was? It he had an incredible rookie.
[39:43] Speaker 1: SEASON i went back and looked at WHAT i wrote
[39:45] Speaker 1: at the time BECAUSE i watched every single play FOR
[39:48] Speaker 1: qb index basically of his entire, prime including his rookie
[39:50] Speaker 1: season that was the year we. Started he would have
[39:53] Speaker 1: Won rookie of The year almost every SEASON i wrote
[39:56] Speaker 1: at the. Time he would have won it every year,
[39:58] Speaker 1: since like The Adrian peterson two thousand and seven. Year
[40:02] Speaker 1: he just happened to be in a year WITH rg
[40:03] Speaker 1: three And Andrew. Luck but like you PUT rg, three
[40:06] Speaker 1: Like Russell wilson finished that season awesome and then into the.
[40:09] Speaker 1: Playoffs so incredible rookie. Year here is his end of
[40:13] Speaker 1: the SEASON Qb index. Ranks okay. Shook this is the
[40:17] Speaker 1: end of the regular, Season so you're not giving him
[40:19] Speaker 1: extra points for, postseason which you would obviously With hall Of.
[40:21] Speaker 3: Fame maybe the most.
[40:24] Speaker 1: Consistent quarterback other than Like breeze of in terms of
[40:27] Speaker 1: where he was ranked In brady maybe in the in
[40:32] Speaker 1: the decade, sixth, eighth, fourth, ninth, fifth, sixth, third, sixth
[40:41] Speaker 1: and then his final season In, seattle we had him.
[40:44] Speaker 1: Twelfth he gets the boot and then it totally falls
[40:48] Speaker 1: off a. Cliff that is. Awesome it is really hard
[40:52] Speaker 1: to be a top six ish, quarterback you, know anywhere
[40:55] Speaker 1: from three to eight or so in the consistency is,
[40:58] Speaker 1: Awesome but to me that's like borderline at. Best but
[41:02] Speaker 1: the postseason, stuff the rookie, stuff what he meant for the,
[41:05] Speaker 1: game you, know gives him a little extra. Juice IF
[41:08] Speaker 1: i am comparing, GUYS i put him Behind rivers for,
[41:10] Speaker 1: Sure BUT i THINK i would put him ahead Of
[41:13] Speaker 1: Matt ryan And Eli. Manning in, FACT i KNOW i
[41:15] Speaker 1: would BECAUSE i think that sustained peak was better by
[41:20] Speaker 1: a good margin than their sustained.
[41:23] Speaker 2: Peak, YEAH i agree with, That and, sometimes even like
[41:26] Speaker 2: the most simplistic, APPROACH i think, about like how DID
[41:30] Speaker 2: i regard them when they were at their? Best and
[41:32] Speaker 2: then how long was their? Best and he was held
[41:35] Speaker 2: in higher regard Than eli And Matt ryan, Were Like
[41:38] Speaker 2: Matt ryan had THAT mvp season with The falcons that
[41:40] Speaker 2: we super and everything question annually.
[41:42] Speaker 3: People are funny About Matt.
[41:43] Speaker 1: Ryan, NOW i Thought Matt ryan was great at the,
[41:45] Speaker 1: time and WHEN i thought he was great and that
[41:48] Speaker 1: he was, UNDERRATED i was always thinking he was like
[41:50] Speaker 1: the seventh best quarterback in the, League like he wasn't
[41:52] Speaker 1: Quite Russell wilson at his peak.
[41:53] Speaker 2: Exactly so, Yeah i'm with you on. THAT i like
[41:56] Speaker 2: that placement, there AND i think that THOSE Qb index
[41:58] Speaker 2: final placements really kind of speak to what we often,
[42:01] Speaker 2: miss which is that like third In Offensive rookie of The,
[42:05] Speaker 2: year fourth And Offensive player of The, year third and
[42:06] Speaker 2: offensive player, there fourth And offensive player. Year that's like
[42:08] Speaker 2: in a seven year, span, Right like we always point
[42:11] Speaker 2: to that and it's, like, well how Many all pros
[42:13] Speaker 2: did he? Make how many times was he a finalist
[42:15] Speaker 2: For Offensive player of The? Year how about where was
[42:16] Speaker 2: he every year at the end of THE Qb. Index
[42:18] Speaker 2: it's a good good, METRICS i.
[42:19] Speaker 1: Think, so because quarterbacks you get extra like a top
[42:23] Speaker 1: if that was your position ranking at tight, End, yeah
[42:26] Speaker 1: you're not making The hall Of. Fame but it's a
[42:28] Speaker 1: little different when you're the most important. Position if we're
[42:31] Speaker 1: saying he's a top five quarterback for the twenty, tens
[42:35] Speaker 1: you Have rogers in there And breeze In, manning and you,
[42:38] Speaker 1: know it gets. Complicated LIKE i think that it's on the.
[42:43] Speaker 1: BORDER i actually don't have like a final, Say i'd
[42:45] Speaker 1: have to see who he's up.
[42:46] Speaker 3: Against he gets.
[42:47] Speaker 1: Eventually he is sort of the definition to, me a
[42:50] Speaker 1: borderline where he probably does get in after seven to ten,
[42:54] Speaker 1: years depending on like who he's. Against BUT i definitely
[42:57] Speaker 1: have him ahead Of, RIVERS i mean ahead Of ryan
[43:00] Speaker 1: And eli and definitely Behind. Rivers but that's my own,
[43:03] Speaker 1: personal you, know. EVALUATION i know some people. Disagree let's
[43:07] Speaker 1: wrap up with Your madden takeaways before we get out of.
[43:11] Speaker 1: Here what is it that you? Do you go and
[43:13] Speaker 1: you guys just all Play madden together in a.
[43:15] Speaker 2: Room so in the, past it would be it's the
[43:18] Speaker 2: preview event and we would you sit through a presentation
[43:20] Speaker 2: three four hours long where they would you, know they
[43:22] Speaker 2: broke it up into two days in the, past where
[43:23] Speaker 2: it would be day one would be madd and they
[43:25] Speaker 2: would tell us about all the new features and everything
[43:26] Speaker 2: coming to the, game and then we get our hands
[43:27] Speaker 2: on it for like three four. Hours i'd sit down
[43:29] Speaker 2: with the, developers talk to them about the, game do an,
[43:31] Speaker 2: interview write a story about, it and we'd do the
[43:32] Speaker 2: same thing for college. Football, well this year they decided
[43:34] Speaker 2: to put it all into one big primetime nighttime event
[43:37] Speaker 2: that's live streamed across the world because they're very excited
[43:40] Speaker 2: about what they're producing on the virtual football field across both.
[43:44] Speaker 2: Games But madden was especially, important it felt this year
[43:47] Speaker 2: because of where it, was which Was, chicago home of
[43:50] Speaker 2: cover Athlete Caleb. Williams it was just dialed up a.
[43:53] Speaker 2: Lot there were more people, there there were more cameras,
[43:55] Speaker 2: there the production value which was much, higher and let
[43:59] Speaker 2: me tell, you it was a blast what they've done
[44:02] Speaker 2: in creating this. Game and it's really a multi year
[44:05] Speaker 2: initiative where they try to fix one element of football
[44:07] Speaker 2: and the other. One tackling was one, year blocking was another,
[44:09] Speaker 2: year and they iterate on a year by. Year they
[44:11] Speaker 2: have tried to bring the virtual football video games closer
[44:14] Speaker 2: to real life football at a level that allows it
[44:17] Speaker 2: to become a teaching tool and also an experimentation tool
[44:20] Speaker 2: and it's taken multiple years to get to that. Point
[44:22] Speaker 2: but in speaking with the people who are so dedicated
[44:24] Speaker 2: to doing, THIS i think about the gameplay Lead SCOTT.
[44:27] Speaker 2: O gallagher like he's an X is And o's, guy
[44:30] Speaker 2: and we'll stand there and we'll just be chatting about
[44:32] Speaker 2: the intricacies of the game and how he's bringing that
[44:35] Speaker 2: to the football field in both college and THE. Nfl
[44:37] Speaker 2: it's to the point now where we're getting plaster logic
[44:40] Speaker 2: and defensive. Coverage and you know what plaster. Is you'll
[44:42] Speaker 2: Hear Charles davis talk about it on a RANDOM nfl
[44:44] Speaker 2: broadcast on A sunday ON cbs that quarterback breaks the.
[44:47] Speaker 2: Pocket what's the first thing defensive backs are. Doing they're
[44:49] Speaker 2: plaster into the nearest, guy find a, guy stick to.
[44:52] Speaker 2: Them that's now in the. Game there are other coverage,
[44:54] Speaker 2: improvements like this thing they call look for work where
[44:56] Speaker 2: you're playing in his own coverage and there's nobody, there
[44:58] Speaker 2: but you're looking for the nearest, defender trying to eliminate
[45:01] Speaker 2: the soft. Spots they're making football more, realistic and that's
[45:04] Speaker 2: what's excites me about the game is that If madden
[45:08] Speaker 2: and college football can become a teaching. Tool it can
[45:10] Speaker 2: onboard the next generation of football fans and expand you,
[45:13] Speaker 2: know the audience for football beyond what it already. IS
[45:16] Speaker 2: i MEAN i think about, LIKE i don't know anything about,
[45:18] Speaker 2: soccer BUT i PLAY FIFA, eafc and NOW i know
[45:20] Speaker 2: a little bit about. Soccer if you can do the
[45:22] Speaker 2: same thing with, football the fan base only grows and
[45:24] Speaker 2: it becomes a better experience for, everybody especially somebody like,
[45:26] Speaker 2: me because you, KNOW i run those college football On
[45:28] Speaker 2: madden leagues AND i hate having to separate my brain
[45:31] Speaker 2: between real football logic and video game football. Logic so
[45:34] Speaker 2: they're trying to close that, gap AND i think they're
[45:36] Speaker 2: getting a lot. Closer and it was fun to talk
[45:37] Speaker 2: with those. People you get my hands on the game
[45:39] Speaker 2: and test it out as.
[45:40] Speaker 1: Well, yeah it's a great way to learn next as
[45:43] Speaker 1: and o's for, kids but for adults.
[45:47] Speaker 3: Too it really is next.
[45:49] Speaker 1: LEVEL i know they added some, features you know now
[45:51] Speaker 1: when you're in Like superstar, mode like you could do
[45:54] Speaker 1: tight ends or a safety was there? Anything was there
[45:56] Speaker 1: anything flashy? Though that caught your eye for The madden
[46:00] Speaker 1: people out, THERE.
[46:01] Speaker 2: I mean flashy both defense is, back like like it's
[46:05] Speaker 2: no longer going to be complete shootouts and those who like,
[46:07] Speaker 2: to you, know get in to real x's and o's
[46:09] Speaker 2: and be able to counter. Defensively it's definitely back in
[46:11] Speaker 2: a number of different. Ways The superstar experience is fun
[46:14] Speaker 2: as a tight end, because as you, know former blocker,
[46:17] Speaker 2: MYSELF i love the idea of controlling a tight, end pancaking.
[46:21] Speaker 2: Somebody for, example playing with The jets clearing a lane
[46:24] Speaker 2: For Brise hall for a touchdown and then also running
[46:26] Speaker 2: a corner rout in the red zone and catching the
[46:28] Speaker 2: game winning. Touchdown that's a lot of fun. Too and
[46:30] Speaker 2: that's something that used to be In madden back in like.
[46:32] Speaker 2: Seven that's back. Now WHO i love laying.
[46:34] Speaker 1: Somebody i'm gonna make my Own Darnel, washington you, Know,
[46:38] Speaker 1: yes The, Sun Darnel, Washington.
[46:40] Speaker 2: Darnell, washington the Third, yeah junior.
[46:44] Speaker 1: Juniors as we say, GOODBYE i just wanted to send
[46:48] Speaker 1: a congratulations to AN Nfl daily regular and co, host
[46:52] Speaker 1: and we're going to get him on to talk about,
[46:55] Speaker 1: this but just a shout out To Steve weiss and
[46:57] Speaker 1: congratulations for his and duct over the weekend to The
[47:02] Speaker 1: Black College Football hall Of, fame part of The class
[47:05] Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six for his contributions in elevating the
[47:09] Speaker 1: game as a, broadcaster as a host of the induction
[47:12] Speaker 1: ceremony for previous, years and now he's the one getting,
[47:15] Speaker 1: inducted and he works so hard to elevate these HBCUs
[47:19] Speaker 1: and it's really cool that he got the black. Jacket
[47:22] Speaker 1: it's not a gold. JACKET i don't know if you
[47:24] Speaker 1: saw the, pictures but it was. Him It's Tyrone, Poole Nick,
[47:27] Speaker 1: Collins Eddie Robinson, Junior Jimmy, smith The Great, jaguar And
[47:31] Speaker 1: Rudy hubbard was the nominees and they're looking great in
[47:35] Speaker 1: their blackjackets after they got.
[47:36] Speaker 2: Nominated what a great group to be a part of
[47:38] Speaker 2: and completely totally. Deserving steve is look. Nobody and it's
[47:44] Speaker 2: not often you're gonna meet people in the world who
[47:46] Speaker 2: are just as good of a person As Steve. Wisch's
[47:49] Speaker 2: not only is he fantastic at his, job one of
[47:50] Speaker 2: the best on, camera he's an even better person off of.
[47:54] Speaker 2: It AND i say that as somebody who came into
[47:56] Speaker 2: this organization as a, producer entry level, producer got to know.
[48:00] Speaker 2: Him he's always been one of the most welcoming, honest,
[48:03] Speaker 2: genuine authentic people who's also fantastic at his. Job so
[48:06] Speaker 2: congratulations You, steve super. Proud are you happy for?
[48:09] Speaker 8: You?
[48:09] Speaker 1: YEAH i always always call him the unofficial team captain
[48:12] Speaker 1: OF Nfl, MEDIA Nfl network now the. Best, yeah we're
[48:15] Speaker 1: lucky to have. Him let's, uh let's get out of.
[48:17] Speaker 1: Here we're still going four shows a.
[48:19] Speaker 3: Week shooky.
[48:22] Speaker 2: Crank who cares in a? Vacation who cares if teens
[48:24] Speaker 2: are going to Kant kun or whatever soon they're going on.
[48:26] Speaker 2: Vacation we're.
[48:27] Speaker 1: Not, yeah you might not hear From shuki in in
[48:31] Speaker 1: a minute because he's he's going to get out of,
[48:33] Speaker 1: here but we'll be we'll be right. Here next show
[48:35] Speaker 1: is going to be myself And Jordan rodrigue talking about
[48:38] Speaker 1: why are all these trades happening right? Now we'll see
[48:41] Speaker 1: them

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