# Cutdown Day Takeaways from Every Team: Aaron Donald is BACK, Odell Makes the Cut and the 4 QB Trend

An episode of [NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/680904259), 31 Aug 2026, 1 h 00 min.

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Gregg Rosenthal and Jourdan Rodrigue react to Aaron Donald coming out of retirement to play for the Rams in 2026. Plus, they get you caught up on all the news from around the NFL on roster cutdown day including Odell Beckham Jr. making the Giants roster, J.J. McCarthy and Anthony Richardson both not being released, the Jaguars trading for Quinn Ewers, a new quarterback trend around the NFL and more! NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:04] Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're going to be watching
[0:07] Speaker 1: Aaron Donald play football in Australia.
[0:10] Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm in my garage.
[0:12] Speaker 1: I'm joined across town by my friend Jordan Rodrigue. It
[0:16] Speaker 1: is cut down day, a day of complicated feelings.
[0:19] Speaker 2: Jordan, as many players experience. get cut.
[0:24] Speaker 1: Their dream ends for now, but maybe they end up
[0:26] Speaker 1: on a practice squad. And yet the Rams, as they've
[0:28] Speaker 1: been doing all offseason, stole the show by finding out
[0:32] Speaker 1: today is the day that Aaron Donald decided to return
[0:35] Speaker 1: to the team. So we will get to all 32
[0:38] Speaker 1: teams and the takeaways from their cuts and some suspensions
[0:43] Speaker 1: and commissioners exempt list announcements. But we have to start
[0:47] Speaker 1: with the team that you were broadcasting on Thursday night.
[0:50] Speaker 2: Great job.
[0:50] Speaker 1: Again, it would have been nice if Aaron Donald came
[0:52] Speaker 1: back during that broadcast for you, but he did it
[0:55] Speaker 1: nicely for this podcast. Not a shock to us, but
[0:59] Speaker 1: what do you think about the timing, about the usage?
[1:02] Speaker 1: We've kind of waited to analyze the actual football impact
[1:06] Speaker 1: of it all until it actually happens, and now it's
[1:09] Speaker 1: actually happened.
[1:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to think of even where to start.
[1:12] Speaker 4: Cause there's so much great stuff to dig into with this,
[1:15] Speaker 4: but let's, I guess, start with the timing. I don't
[1:18] Speaker 4: think it should be a surprise to anybody that after
[1:20] Speaker 4: training camp is the timing here. This is something where
[1:24] Speaker 4: it could have been at this point into the season.
[1:27] Speaker 4: It's really clear to me that Aaron Donald really wanted.
[1:30] Speaker 3: To be a part of.
[1:31] Speaker 4: The speciality that this team is trying to build and
[1:34] Speaker 4: also reinvest into his teammates the whole way through. I've
[1:38] Speaker 4: been working up a column today for the athletic that'll
[1:41] Speaker 4: run tomorrow. Please go check it out about how. Back
[1:46] Speaker 4: when the Rams went on their Superbowl run last time
[1:48] Speaker 4: in 2021, he was paired with a different future hall
[1:51] Speaker 4: of fame, potentially, probably a edge rusher in, in Von
[1:55] Speaker 4: Miller and Von Miller used to sit next to Aaron
[1:57] Speaker 4: Donald on the planes to, and from these games, especially
[2:00] Speaker 4: late in the season and into the post season. and
[2:03] Speaker 4: just tell him stories about what playing in the Super
[2:05] Speaker 4: Bowl was like and winning it, because obviously Aaron Donald
[2:08] Speaker 4: had played in one previously, and what it felt like
[2:11] Speaker 4: to hold the Lombardi Trophy and even brought his Lombardi
[2:13] Speaker 4: Trophy in so that it would just sort of stand
[2:15] Speaker 4: in the equipment room as a reminder to everybody what
[2:17] Speaker 4: they were chasing. And Aaron Donald is going to be
[2:20] Speaker 4: that person for other players. There's not a lot of
[2:23] Speaker 4: Rams players on this roster now. who know what that
[2:26] Speaker 4: was like or had felt that. And Miles Garrett has
[2:28] Speaker 4: not felt what that is like. Like this is the
[2:30] Speaker 4: most intrinsically motivated guy ever. There's no question about that.
[2:33] Speaker 4: But when the season gets hard and when the goals
[2:36] Speaker 4: seem to be very, very small, very, very large, and
[2:39] Speaker 4: the chances of attaining them seem to be very, very small.
[2:42] Speaker 4: This is when having a player like this and somebody
[2:45] Speaker 4: who shows up when the best is required.
[2:47] Speaker 3: This is when it will matter.
[2:49] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[2:50] Speaker 1: I loved seeing the, practice videos out there today of
[2:54] Speaker 1: him going through just the positional drills. I believe he's
[2:56] Speaker 1: going to speak actually later on Sunday evening. Thank you
[3:01] Speaker 1: to everyone joining us live, you know, give us questions.
[3:04] Speaker 1: But yeah, we're taping this for everyone listening on the
[3:07] Speaker 1: podcast side on Sunday evening as about 27, 26 teams
[3:12] Speaker 1: have announced their cuts. We're watching you other five team jets.
[3:15] Speaker 1: Just give us your cuts. So the contract is, Is
[3:20] Speaker 1: interesting to me. I don't want to linger too much
[3:22] Speaker 1: on it, but a $ 10 million base salary, $ 10 million
[3:25] Speaker 1: in per game roster bonuses that he has to be
[3:27] Speaker 1: active for. So a lot is really tied to him
[3:30] Speaker 1: being on the team. And then fascinatingly, $ 10 million more
[3:33] Speaker 1: on playoff bonuses where he has to be active. They
[3:36] Speaker 1: have to make the playoffs. So if the team just
[3:38] Speaker 1: stinks for whatever reason, he can't make any of those
[3:41] Speaker 1: $ 10 million. He has to be active for the first round,
[3:44] Speaker 1: and then you make a couple million dollars more. You
[3:46] Speaker 1: have to be active for the second round. You have
[3:47] Speaker 1: to make a couple million dollars more, and he maxes
[3:51] Speaker 1: out if they win the actual Super Bowl at $ 10 million.
[3:54] Speaker 1: So to me, the expectations are the thing that I'm
[3:59] Speaker 1: more interested in from your perspective, Jordan, because when we
[4:02] Speaker 1: last saw him, extremely effective player, one of the leaders
[4:07] Speaker 1: in pass rush win rate, one of the best players
[4:10] Speaker 1: at his position, hasn't won a defensive player of the
[4:13] Speaker 1: year since 2020. Those three now are six-plus years old.
[4:19] Speaker 1: What do you think about how they're going to use
[4:21] Speaker 1: him role-wise and what's a reasonable expectation after being two
[4:26] Speaker 1: years away and he's, what, 35 years old now?
[4:28] Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's going to be situational and game-by-game,
[4:31] Speaker 4: which is a double-sided... Meaning, because first of all, that
[4:36] Speaker 4: should be very worrisome for opponents because you're already having
[4:40] Speaker 4: to try to game plan for one of the most
[4:43] Speaker 4: difficult players on the planet to game plan for in
[4:45] Speaker 4: miles Garrett. And now you're not quite sure that I
[4:48] Speaker 4: think what the Rams are really wanting to do with
[4:50] Speaker 4: this is making it sure, making sure to, um, not
[4:54] Speaker 4: show any tendencies and having a player who is at
[4:57] Speaker 4: Aaron Donald's age, which is what 35 right now. And
[5:01] Speaker 4: to and also the fact that they're so deep along
[5:04] Speaker 4: their defensive line. You know, I've been saying for weeks
[5:06] Speaker 4: that I think this defense is going to really surprise
[5:09] Speaker 4: people with how multiple it is and how much it
[5:11] Speaker 4: can rotate even on the field without subbing players out.
[5:15] Speaker 4: There's so many players in the front and the back
[5:17] Speaker 4: that can play multiple positions and can rotate all around
[5:21] Speaker 4: each other and really activate against a bunch of different
[5:24] Speaker 4: types of personnel's.
[5:25] Speaker 3: Without needing to come off the field.
[5:27] Speaker 4: So if teams, which we think they will try to
[5:29] Speaker 4: go quick game on them or tempo in order to
[5:31] Speaker 4: try to mitigate some of this pass rush that they'll
[5:33] Speaker 4: see from miles Garrett, et cetera, You are, you now
[5:36] Speaker 4: have a counter punch for that. And that that's pretty worrisome.
[5:40] Speaker 4: I think when you factor in, you're not going to really,
[5:42] Speaker 4: really know what Aaron Donald's going to do week to week.
[5:45] Speaker 4: I was thinking about this today, you know, you mentioned
[5:46] Speaker 4: at the top and we'll hear from him later today.
[5:48] Speaker 4: So this might be wrong already that I'm saying this,
[5:51] Speaker 4: but I actually don't know if he's playing or not
[5:53] Speaker 4: in Australia. And there's precedent to where he has missed
[5:57] Speaker 4: the first couple of games of the season or the
[5:59] Speaker 4: first game, at least out of a thing like a holdout,
[6:02] Speaker 4: for example, which he had in the past. and still
[6:05] Speaker 4: went on obviously to win defensive player of the year
[6:07] Speaker 4: that season. But this is the long game for, for
[6:10] Speaker 4: the Rams. And certainly it's a mind game for everybody
[6:13] Speaker 4: else because we are so, we got so used to,
[6:17] Speaker 4: and we never really got used to, but we kind
[6:19] Speaker 4: of got used to all the stories of these opposing
[6:20] Speaker 4: coaches talking about how, when you play Aaron Donald, that's
[6:24] Speaker 4: actually the only player you're game planning around on defense
[6:27] Speaker 4: for the Rams. That's how much of the week that
[6:29] Speaker 4: it takes up in their meetings and how much of
[6:31] Speaker 4: the the reinstallation of offensive line protections and blocks and
[6:35] Speaker 4: slides and all these different things that you have to
[6:37] Speaker 4: focus on. And so now the fact that he is
[6:39] Speaker 4: going to be used situationally and you don't, you won't
[6:42] Speaker 4: be able to tendency predict week over week. That's a
[6:45] Speaker 4: real problem, I think. And I think it, it plays
[6:47] Speaker 4: to the Rams benefit. And I think they know that,
[6:49] Speaker 4: which again is one of the reasons why among all
[6:52] Speaker 4: of this other super team building thing, just the way
[6:55] Speaker 4: that they're doing it is also the reason why the
[6:57] Speaker 4: Rams have such a big target on their back this year.
[6:59] Speaker 1: It, It's wild because, you know, Von Miller was great
[7:03] Speaker 1: in that run. He was not 2025 Miles Garrett. We'll
[7:07] Speaker 1: see if 2026 Miles Garrett is that good. But assuming
[7:10] Speaker 1: he is having those two guys in the field, it's
[7:12] Speaker 1: just special. It's the first team ever to have two
[7:15] Speaker 1: defensive players of the year on the same roster, which
[7:17] Speaker 1: kind of surprised me, I believe, at the same coming
[7:20] Speaker 1: into the season.
[7:21] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[7:22] Speaker 1: You add Braden Fisk, who's a good depth piece. You
[7:25] Speaker 1: add Puna Ford, who is a great run stopper. You
[7:28] Speaker 1: have Byron Young, who's a great edge rusher in a
[7:32] Speaker 1: contract year for him. You have a young player in
[7:34] Speaker 1: Josiah Stewart. It's a very deep front. Kobe Turner, of course,
[7:39] Speaker 1: is the guy who's also in a contract push. It
[7:44] Speaker 1: really stood out to me how... many free agents are
[7:47] Speaker 1: on this team. I'm putting together my list and man,
[7:50] Speaker 1: now Aaron Donald is another one of them. I mean,
[7:52] Speaker 1: the amount of players on this team that are in
[7:55] Speaker 1: the final years of their contracts, I know it's not
[7:58] Speaker 1: Superbowl or bus, but like for, for like a long-term vision,
[8:03] Speaker 1: but for this particular team, it is pretty crazy that
[8:07] Speaker 1: Kobe Turner is, Puka Nakua, both their guards, Kevin Dotson,
[8:11] Speaker 1: Steve Avila, Aaron Donald, Byron Young. I'm missing a few
[8:16] Speaker 1: more like Coleman Shelton, their center, like are all free
[8:18] Speaker 1: agents this year. And it's really exciting. If I had
[8:21] Speaker 1: to guess, yeah, you're right. It's possible he might not
[8:23] Speaker 1: even play that week. He's getting those bonuses each week.
[8:27] Speaker 1: He'll want to play, you know, but that will not
[8:29] Speaker 1: make the decision for them. And Ian Rappaport spoke on
[8:32] Speaker 1: NFL Network just like, look, they might. start him out
[8:35] Speaker 1: 10 to 15 snaps or something, but he just can't
[8:38] Speaker 1: imagine that that's going to last particularly long.
[8:40] Speaker 4: Well, I did see Albert Breer talking about the contract,
[8:43] Speaker 4: and I thought it said up to 15 games were
[8:46] Speaker 4: eligible for these bonuses, which made my wheels start ticking.
[8:51] Speaker 4: So maybe if he's not there right away, they still.
[8:55] Speaker 4: But the thing is, is I'm curious. Wolf, again, this
[8:58] Speaker 4: could be all us having fun right before they come
[9:01] Speaker 4: out and say, yes, he is or isn't playing in Australia.
[9:04] Speaker 4: I think that it would be so because especially because
[9:07] Speaker 4: they're playing the 49ers. I mean, they won't even talk
[9:10] Speaker 4: about what their travel plans are publicly. Like this, I
[9:15] Speaker 4: would not be surprised. Well, again, I might be wrong
[9:18] Speaker 4: at about 15 minutes, but I would not be surprised
[9:20] Speaker 4: at all.
[9:20] Speaker 3: If they're just like, Hmm, he might play. He might not.
[9:23] Speaker 2: We'll see.
[9:24] Speaker 3: It's going to be a game time decision. We don't
[9:26] Speaker 3: know if he's going to travel.
[9:27] Speaker 4: And then it's like a bunch of really interesting social
[9:30] Speaker 4: media shots where you see everybody boarding the plane, but
[9:32] Speaker 4: not him. And is he on the plane or is
[9:34] Speaker 4: he not on the plane? And, Yeah, it's a whole thing. Again,
[9:37] Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. The Rams already have a target
[9:39] Speaker 4: on their back, but the way that they are doing
[9:41] Speaker 4: this also would create an even bigger one. And because
[9:45] Speaker 4: it's Kyle Shanahan, because it's the 49ers, I wouldn't be
[9:47] Speaker 4: surprised if they try to gamesmanship this one a little
[9:50] Speaker 4: bit too.
[9:51] Speaker 1: Kobe Turner and Aaron Donald next to each other because
[9:53] Speaker 1: they're very different styles of players is pretty exciting to
[9:58] Speaker 1: think about.
[9:59] Speaker 2: And for.
[10:00] Speaker 1: just when I saw the money, even before I knew
[10:02] Speaker 1: it was only $ 10 million base salary, I was just like,
[10:05] Speaker 1: this guy, it is still Aaron Donald. And I know
[10:08] Speaker 1: you can't expect him to be exactly the same, but
[10:09] Speaker 1: he's making less money than Kenny Clark. And Deron Payne
[10:14] Speaker 1: and Zach Seeler, like he essentially took a discount and
[10:19] Speaker 1: helped them out because he wants to be part of this.
[10:21] Speaker 1: And I know they had a previous contract, but exciting.
[10:25] Speaker 1: And we have a listener watching us right now from Melbourne. And,
[10:28] Speaker 1: you know, I hope Aaron Donald, just for the excitement
[10:30] Speaker 1: of that game, goes over there. But if not, we
[10:32] Speaker 1: will see him soon enough. We will presumably see Puka
[10:35] Speaker 1: Nakua week one. He was not placed on the commissioner's
[10:38] Speaker 1: exempt list like some other players around the league, although
[10:41] Speaker 1: the NFL still could suspend him potentially.
[10:44] Speaker 2: We'll find out.
[10:45] Speaker 1: He was at practice, though, so he's back on the field.
[10:47] Speaker 1: All expectations, he's ready to go week one. Miles Garrett,
[10:50] Speaker 1: it's not believed it's anything serious as far as we know,
[10:53] Speaker 1: but he was not back at practice on Sunday. Tutu
[10:55] Speaker 1: Atwell is now part of this team, so it really
[10:58] Speaker 1: is a super team.
[11:00] Speaker 2: In Los Angeles. Let's go to the rest of the
[11:02] Speaker 2: cut down. Two back, two, two.
[11:05] Speaker 4: Right.
[11:05] Speaker 2: Oh, there we go.
[11:06] Speaker 3: Two back, two furious.
[11:07] Speaker 2: I don't know.
[11:08] Speaker 1: I wasn't sure two, two would make the team, but
[11:11] Speaker 1: he's definitely going to be on that team.
[11:12] Speaker 2: Why would he trade for him? I guess if he's
[11:13] Speaker 2: not going to make the team.
[11:15] Speaker 1: So unfortunately, the other biggest items of news before we
[11:18] Speaker 1: get to kind of who made the team, some nice
[11:20] Speaker 1: stories and some surprising cuts. were a couple decisions by
[11:24] Speaker 1: the NFL related to domestic violence cases. Number one, Josh
[11:29] Speaker 1: Jacobs was placed on the commissioner's exempt list. And Jonathan Cooper,
[11:34] Speaker 1: who is an edge rusher for the Broncos, very good player,
[11:37] Speaker 1: also was placed on the commissioner's exempt list. We'll get
[11:40] Speaker 1: back to the Cooper news in a second. What the
[11:43] Speaker 1: commissioner's exempt list means for everyone watching and listening is
[11:48] Speaker 1: that the player actually remains paid. And it's a way
[11:53] Speaker 1: for the NFL to step in and not let the
[11:56] Speaker 1: legal process play out and kind of put this guy
[11:59] Speaker 1: on the shelf in the meantime while they figure out
[12:02] Speaker 1: what the punishment is going to be. Josh Jacobs, since
[12:06] Speaker 1: we last taped, learned he faces two misdemeanor charges. one
[12:10] Speaker 1: of battery and one of criminal damage to property. Matt LaFleur,
[12:13] Speaker 1: his coach, said he will be on the team. Those
[12:17] Speaker 1: were actually lesser charges than the original charges that he faced.
[12:20] Speaker 1: So a lot of people saw that news and thought it's,
[12:22] Speaker 1: quote unquote, good news for Josh Jacobs and the Packers.
[12:28] Speaker 1: But as part of the police report and everything that
[12:31] Speaker 1: came out, they say there is a video where Josh Jacobs, quote,
[12:36] Speaker 1: grabs the victim and throws her to the ground and
[12:38] Speaker 1: and she struck her head, suffering an injury. Jacobs then
[12:41] Speaker 1: took her phone from her while she was on the ground.
[12:43] Speaker 1: She laid on the ground and struggled to walk back
[12:45] Speaker 1: to the house. That is on video. The NFL obviously
[12:47] Speaker 1: knows about all of this, Jordan. The punishment for anything
[12:52] Speaker 1: domestic related is supposed to be a baseline of minimum
[12:55] Speaker 1: six games. I know I'm doing a lot of explaining here,
[12:57] Speaker 1: but I had to go back and even check. This
[12:59] Speaker 1: was a past precedent. Jabril Peppers had a very similar case.
[13:05] Speaker 1: where he was placed on the exempt list while they
[13:07] Speaker 1: figured out his punishment. Eventually, they suspended him seven games
[13:12] Speaker 1: at the point that they announced that he had already
[13:13] Speaker 1: been out for seven weeks, and they essentially considered that
[13:16] Speaker 1: time served. He then lost that money that he had
[13:20] Speaker 1: been making in the meantime, and that's, I guess, how
[13:23] Speaker 1: we're going to do this.
[13:24] Speaker 2: We won't know the timeline.
[13:25] Speaker 1: No one's going to know the timeline exactly, but I
[13:27] Speaker 1: think it's fair knowing the NFL's precedent that it's a
[13:30] Speaker 1: minimum six games for Josh Jacobs. Yeah.
[13:33] Speaker 3: And I would just add to that too.
[13:34] Speaker 4: We're on a hashtag noticing watch for Matt LaFleur too,
[13:38] Speaker 4: in his response to this and his continued response to this.
[13:42] Speaker 4: So that's what I would make sure to add to
[13:44] Speaker 4: this too, because it is not a secret how unstable
[13:50] Speaker 4: the depth at running back is there on their roster.
[13:53] Speaker 4: And you don't ever want to think that that factors
[13:55] Speaker 4: into some of the things that you say to reporters
[13:57] Speaker 4: and some of the decisions you make as a head coach,
[14:00] Speaker 4: But maybe it is.
[14:02] Speaker 3: And, you know, hashtag noticing.
[14:05] Speaker 1: We literally talked about on this podcast, can't remember if
[14:09] Speaker 1: it was you or Shook, that like, I don't want
[14:11] Speaker 1: this to be a Ray Rice thing where this has
[14:12] Speaker 1: been quiet for a while and that, well, then the
[14:15] Speaker 1: video falls, comes out and then everyone says, oh, he
[14:17] Speaker 1: can't play in the NFL again. So the video still
[14:20] Speaker 1: could come out in theory. We know there is a video,
[14:23] Speaker 1: but maybe that at least forced the NFL to act.
[14:28] Speaker 2: Who knows?
[14:29] Speaker 1: The Packers did make a move at running back. They
[14:30] Speaker 1: traded for Caleb Johnson, who was a day two pick
[14:34] Speaker 1: by the Steelers just last year, who was not going
[14:36] Speaker 1: to make that team. And I saw the Steelers fans
[14:40] Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, we got something for Caleb Johnson.
[14:43] Speaker 2: The terms aren't out.
[14:45] Speaker 1: It's very likely like a late round pick swap, like
[14:47] Speaker 1: a sixth or a seventh if he does something. So
[14:50] Speaker 1: I assume it's for almost nothing. Marshawn Lloyd is presumably
[14:54] Speaker 1: is going to be the starter there. The Packers also,
[14:56] Speaker 1: while we're on the Packers, signed Johnnie Smith at tight end,
[14:59] Speaker 1: traded for a Rams tight end rookie. So they added
[15:03] Speaker 1: a couple of tight ends. They got a sixth round
[15:05] Speaker 1: pick by trading away Kyle McCord. We'll hit that later
[15:07] Speaker 1: with the Dolphins. And then Micah Parsons was placed on
[15:10] Speaker 1: the PUP list. That means he's out at least four weeks.
[15:13] Speaker 1: None of that particularly surprising, but we'll see how much
[15:17] Speaker 1: their running backs hurt that running game. Cause it's a,
[15:20] Speaker 1: it's a lot of questions in terms of the, offensive.
[15:23] Speaker 2: Line and the running backs.
[15:25] Speaker 1: I mentioned Jonathan Cooper, and I kind of just want
[15:27] Speaker 1: to get these two out of the way here. He
[15:29] Speaker 1: is also placed in the commissioner's exempt list. He had
[15:32] Speaker 1: a couple incidents where he was arrested this offseason. And again,
[15:35] Speaker 1: we don't know how the legal process is going to
[15:37] Speaker 1: play out, but he has been kind of a core
[15:40] Speaker 1: edge rusher for them opposite Nick Benito. I think the
[15:43] Speaker 1: Broncos probably expected this to happen if you watch what
[15:46] Speaker 1: they were doing throughout the preseason and listen to them.
[15:49] Speaker 1: So not a huge surprise, but an important player for
[15:52] Speaker 1: them that they also are choosing not to cut.
[15:54] Speaker 2: So the point you made.
[15:55] Speaker 1: About LeFleur, the Broncos organization. Yeah, making the same decision.
[16:00] Speaker 4: We are on noticing duties, Greg. That's unfortunately the case.
[16:05] Speaker 4: A lot of players on that commissioner exempt list right now.
[16:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, Terryon Arnold is the third who we'll get to.
[16:12] Speaker 1: He has a different situation. He is now a member
[16:14] Speaker 1: of the Seattle Broncos.
[16:16] Speaker 2: Seahawks.
[16:18] Speaker 1: That's the Broncos. That's the pass rushers. We still don't
[16:21] Speaker 1: know everything. Alaric Jackson of the Rams, I expected to
[16:25] Speaker 1: get a suspension. That still has not happened. I still
[16:28] Speaker 1: would not be surprised if it does happen before the season.
[16:32] Speaker 1: So just the fact that he wasn't suspended or placed
[16:35] Speaker 1: on a commissioner's exemplar list today does not mean the
[16:37] Speaker 1: NFL can't do it in the upcoming days.
[16:38] Speaker 2: We will see.
[16:39] Speaker 1: Let's get to some happy news. Odell Beckham is on
[16:42] Speaker 1: the New York Giants. He's going to be on the
[16:45] Speaker 1: week one roster. That means like he's making his salary.
[16:49] Speaker 1: It's not compared to the money he used to make, Jordan.
[16:51] Speaker 1: It's not a ton of money, but it's guaranteed throughout
[16:54] Speaker 1: the season. It is one of my favorite things. like
[16:57] Speaker 1: cut down day stories that Odell Beckham is on the
[17:00] Speaker 1: Giants active roster heading into the season.
[17:03] Speaker 4: Yeah. And he actually I mean, he had to sort
[17:07] Speaker 4: of like nerve this one out, too, because we weren't
[17:10] Speaker 4: really sure if he was going to make it or not.
[17:12] Speaker 4: And so obviously a very, very different circumstance than he
[17:16] Speaker 4: was used to when he played. actually trying to figure
[17:19] Speaker 4: out and then, and then the discussions about whether, you know,
[17:21] Speaker 4: is he going to contribute on special teams and what,
[17:24] Speaker 4: what kinds of things will he be asked to do
[17:26] Speaker 4: for this football team? Um, you know, it's, I think
[17:31] Speaker 4: you love a story like this because it's just a
[17:33] Speaker 4: testament to something that I think went really, really underrated
[17:37] Speaker 4: and under talked about or under discussed about Odell when
[17:41] Speaker 4: he was playing is how much he loves football. I mean,
[17:44] Speaker 4: that was, I got to cover him when he was
[17:46] Speaker 4: trying to make, you know, help the Rams win a
[17:48] Speaker 4: Super Bowl. And everyone said all these things before he
[17:53] Speaker 4: came in and there was all these headlines about him
[17:55] Speaker 4: and all of these things. But man, his teammates absolutely
[17:58] Speaker 4: loved him and that dude loves football. And so I
[18:01] Speaker 4: just thought, you know, this is cool to see because
[18:04] Speaker 4: go have fun out there and go give it your
[18:06] Speaker 4: best and see what's going to happen and.
[18:09] Speaker 2: Let it rip.
[18:11] Speaker 1: All that needs to happen for me And I'm sure
[18:14] Speaker 1: he has different thoughts and the Giants have different thoughts.
[18:16] Speaker 1: It's just like one big Odell play to whether it's
[18:19] Speaker 1: a touchdown or a monster first down in a primetime
[18:22] Speaker 1: game and the crowd is just going crazy. Just that
[18:25] Speaker 1: happening again is a really cool full circle story. And
[18:29] Speaker 1: to your point, yeah, we didn't know if he'd make it.
[18:30] Speaker 1: Calvin Austin is their slot receiver who is out for
[18:32] Speaker 1: the season. That might have had a knockdown effect. Although
[18:36] Speaker 1: right now, Darius Slayton is still on the roster. Darnell
[18:39] Speaker 1: Mooney is still on the roster. Mooney, I believe, will
[18:42] Speaker 1: be staying there. Braxton Berrios is not on the roster,
[18:44] Speaker 1: but it's already been reported that it's a procedural move
[18:47] Speaker 1: where they cut him and they're going to bring him
[18:49] Speaker 1: back before week one. But they're doing the thing where
[18:51] Speaker 1: like his contract won't be guaranteed, which is like shady
[18:54] Speaker 1: business NFL teams. But Darius Slayton might be the guy
[18:57] Speaker 1: who still gets traded. I did notice like hashtag noticing
[19:02] Speaker 1: this doesn't really qualify, but that this is the longest
[19:04] Speaker 1: between cut down day and the start of the season.
[19:08] Speaker 2: I believe ever.
[19:09] Speaker 1: And they did it because of the teams going to
[19:12] Speaker 1: Australia and the season starting on Wednesday. It's only by
[19:14] Speaker 1: a couple of days, but at this time of year,
[19:16] Speaker 1: you have an entire week for these teams. Now you
[19:19] Speaker 1: have a couple extra days to possibly still be making trades.
[19:22] Speaker 1: So with all these announcements, it's all kind of written
[19:25] Speaker 1: in pencil. Like Darius Slayton is on the team now.
[19:27] Speaker 1: If he lands on another team in a few days,
[19:31] Speaker 1: that wouldn't shock me. But most of the players that
[19:33] Speaker 1: were traded today and will be traded in the next
[19:35] Speaker 1: couple of weeks, even though I find it very interesting, Jordan,
[19:38] Speaker 1: I know it's not like rocking everyone's world in just
[19:41] Speaker 1: the same way. Maybe not your world either. You're not
[19:43] Speaker 1: as into spots 48 to 53 on the roster.
[19:47] Speaker 4: I would say, though, I'm really actually quite liking this
[19:50] Speaker 4: adjusted schedule. I know that you can ask me again
[19:53] Speaker 4: in February when the Super Bowl's like a little bit
[19:55] Speaker 4: later than normal, but I am quite enjoying this. I
[20:00] Speaker 4: like the fact that we have an entire week to
[20:02] Speaker 4: sort of gather ourselves into this. It's a great content
[20:05] Speaker 4: week for NFL Daily. Got some really fun shows planned
[20:08] Speaker 4: this week.
[20:09] Speaker 2: QB Island. We're not going to hide it. QB Island's coming.
[20:11] Speaker 3: We got our over-unders.
[20:13] Speaker 2: It's prediction week. Exactly.
[20:15] Speaker 3: I love it. I think it's going to be fun.
[20:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[20:17] Speaker 1: And to be clear, I went and checked. It's just
[20:19] Speaker 1: a couple extra days. Usually it would have been Tuesday night.
[20:22] Speaker 1: Here it's on a Sunday. So nothing too crazy. But
[20:25] Speaker 1: the news is fast and furious. And one of the trends...
[20:30] Speaker 1: that I noticed on Sunday, and we were texting about
[20:33] Speaker 1: it earlier, when we thought the Browns were going to
[20:35] Speaker 1: keep four quarterbacks, they got out of it by putting
[20:38] Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel on one of the most conveniently timed injuries
[20:42] Speaker 1: that no one saw when he was put on injured reserve. Like, wait,
[20:45] Speaker 1: didn't he just finish that game and was totally healthy?
[20:47] Speaker 2: He's on injured reserve.
[20:48] Speaker 1: So the Browns did not carry four quarterbacks, but at
[20:53] Speaker 1: least four teams did. And I might be missing someone.
[20:56] Speaker 1: The Vikings kept four, including J.J.
[20:59] Speaker 2: McCarthy.
[21:00] Speaker 1: The Steelers kept four, including Will Howard and Drew Aller,
[21:04] Speaker 1: plus Mason Rudolph and Aaron Rodgers. The Falcons kept four,
[21:09] Speaker 1: including Jack Strand. Jack Strand! And the Eagles kept four, including...
[21:17] Speaker 1: Who's their guy? Cole Payton, Tanner McKee, and Andy Dalton.
[21:21] Speaker 1: I don't expect all these teams to keep four going
[21:24] Speaker 1: into the season.
[21:24] Speaker 2: That speaks.
[21:26] Speaker 1: to the point I just made that more moves could
[21:29] Speaker 1: be happening. If I had to power rank the most
[21:31] Speaker 1: likely QB move of these four packs, I'm still thinking
[21:36] Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy is an ex-Viking by next week.
[21:39] Speaker 2: But I could be wrong. I could be wrong. What
[21:40] Speaker 2: do you think?
[21:41] Speaker 4: I think that you're hating on Jack Strand unnecessarily because
[21:45] Speaker 4: the young man played well in the preseason.
[21:47] Speaker 2: He really did.
[21:48] Speaker 4: Yeah, he threw the ball well. By the way, I
[21:51] Speaker 4: just showed my phone to you. I was getting notifications earlier.
[21:55] Speaker 4: As predicted, we're going to, quote unquote, we're going to
[21:58] Speaker 4: take it one day at a time, ramping up Aaron Donald.
[22:01] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[22:02] Speaker 4: Per Sean McVay, which we could have all seen that
[22:06] Speaker 4: one coming. And also the Chiefs finally did release their.
[22:09] Speaker 2: Congratulations to the Chiefs.
[22:11] Speaker 3: So I know you're on noticing duty for that as well.
[22:14] Speaker 3: So I wanted to let you know.
[22:14] Speaker 2: But yeah, this.
[22:16] Speaker 4: you have a saying that I say a lot now, Greg,
[22:18] Speaker 4: where if you have four quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks.
[22:20] Speaker 4: I think that the, actually the, the team that I
[22:22] Speaker 4: trust here, two teams that I trust here in this
[22:25] Speaker 4: entire process are the Steelers and the Eagles. I think
[22:28] Speaker 4: the Eagles have been stockpiling as resort quarterbacks as resources
[22:33] Speaker 4: for a while. I don't, I don't wouldn't be surprised
[22:36] Speaker 4: at all to see them be active. And then over
[22:39] Speaker 4: the next week and then the Steelers, I will say
[22:41] Speaker 4: this again. I think Mike McCarthy so underrated over his
[22:44] Speaker 4: history as a coach and, whether a head coach or
[22:47] Speaker 4: an assistant coach, of his work that he's done with quarterbacks.
[22:50] Speaker 4: And so I really think they're sort of extending this
[22:53] Speaker 4: particular assessment to see. And one of them I would
[22:56] Speaker 4: believe is tradable, but it wouldn't surprise me if that
[22:58] Speaker 4: guy's like Mason Rudolph or something.
[23:01] Speaker 2: Right.
[23:01] Speaker 1: I think the Steelers actually will keep their four, and
[23:04] Speaker 1: maybe they cut Mason Rudolph at the last second and
[23:06] Speaker 1: put him back on the practice squad, but probably they
[23:08] Speaker 1: keep their four unless someone comes calling.
[23:10] Speaker 2: I think J.J.
[23:10] Speaker 1: McCarthy would be available, but maybe there's not going to
[23:13] Speaker 1: be enough interest in him We'll see. The Chargers, you know,
[23:17] Speaker 1: with Jim Harbaugh, who could use a backup quarterback, are
[23:20] Speaker 1: certainly a logical landing spot. But you could also just
[23:24] Speaker 1: cut Max Brosner closer to the season and hope he
[23:28] Speaker 1: slides through and put him on the practice squad. The
[23:30] Speaker 1: fact that they're worried someone's going to claim Max Brosner,
[23:33] Speaker 1: I think shows how thin it is out there for
[23:35] Speaker 1: a lot of teams at quarterback.
[23:38] Speaker 2: The Eagles are.
[23:38] Speaker 1: Probably trying to get something, anything for Andy Dalton would
[23:43] Speaker 1: be my guess. Because he played behind Tanner McKee and
[23:46] Speaker 1: didn't look as good as Tanner McKee at the end
[23:48] Speaker 1: of the preseason. So can we get like a 6-7
[23:50] Speaker 1: swap for Andy Dalton from one of these desperate teams?
[23:54] Speaker 1: Which could include the Falcons. Because I wasn't sure going
[23:56] Speaker 1: into their preseason finale, Jordan, that Tua Tungavailoa was even
[24:00] Speaker 1: going to make the team. The reporting starting to come
[24:02] Speaker 1: out there was like pretty crazy. And then Michael Penix
[24:06] Speaker 1: didn't play in their final game. Tua's numbers looked okay,
[24:09] Speaker 1: but I went back and watched. He fumbled a snap.
[24:11] Speaker 2: It was a little....
[24:13] Speaker 1: They did play starters there, but he was out there
[24:16] Speaker 1: with the starters. It would be weird to me if
[24:18] Speaker 1: they cut him, but maybe he could be available.
[24:22] Speaker 2: I don't even know.
[24:24] Speaker 1: We're 10 days out and no one knows who their
[24:26] Speaker 1: starting quarterback is going to be in Atlanta. I feel
[24:29] Speaker 1: like this offseason has gone about as bad as it
[24:31] Speaker 1: could for the Atlanta quarterback situation.
[24:34] Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's a tough look for the franchise
[24:37] Speaker 4: overall to come in and try to be establishing this
[24:41] Speaker 4: new coaching staff and this new front office and like
[24:43] Speaker 4: this new team president situation and to not have real
[24:47] Speaker 4: clarity of a plan quite yet. Your best player in
[24:50] Speaker 4: the preseason was Jack Strand. It's a huge issue.
[24:54] Speaker 2: Wait, who is their fourth quarterback? I should know this.
[24:57] Speaker 3: Now I accidentally shaded Jack Strand.
[24:58] Speaker 2: Sorry, Jack. That's rude. That's rude. No, he actually really
[25:01] Speaker 2: did look good.
[25:02] Speaker 1: We just weren't familiar with him before him, and he
[25:05] Speaker 1: hasn't played football at a high level. He was at
[25:07] Speaker 1: Minnesota State Moorhead, but who knows? He might be the
[25:11] Speaker 1: most exciting long-term quarterback on that roster. They kept Cooper Rush, too,
[25:14] Speaker 1: for now. That was like, you couldn't cut Cooper Rush,
[25:16] Speaker 1: but that maybe indicates to me maybe there's something else
[25:20] Speaker 1: going on eventually.
[25:21] Speaker 4: Do you ever think it's funny how some of these
[25:23] Speaker 4: backup quarterbacks have just an iron grip on... the roster
[25:29] Speaker 4: churn of their respective franchises, like Tanner McKee, the power
[25:33] Speaker 4: that that guy has within the, within the roster planning
[25:37] Speaker 4: part of it when it's like, he's like a hinge
[25:40] Speaker 4: between the rest of the roster. And then all the
[25:42] Speaker 4: guys on the roster that are sort of churned in
[25:44] Speaker 4: and out practice squad and regular transactions over the course
[25:47] Speaker 4: of the year and standing in the middle, like Spider-Man
[25:50] Speaker 4: holding the bus together is Tanner McKee.
[25:53] Speaker 2: I mean, he's, he's what matters the most. Um, Who knows?
[25:57] Speaker 1: He could be playing big time snaps. Jalen Hurts is,
[26:00] Speaker 1: among other things, you know, very durable, handsome, durable. You know,
[26:04] Speaker 1: he gets a lot of knocks. And yet he finished
[26:07] Speaker 1: first on the Ringer Fantasy Show's hottest quarterbacks draft. And
[26:12] Speaker 1: that's worth something. I don't know how we got here,
[26:14] Speaker 1: but we're going to get out. The Falcons, by the way,
[26:16] Speaker 1: I mentioned the bad offseason. Matt Ryan traded like a
[26:19] Speaker 1: pick swap for Wanya Morris, who was a tackle from
[26:21] Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and then they cut him today. I always
[26:22] Speaker 1: notice when those things happen. You You trade for someone
[26:25] Speaker 1: and then you cut them. Like the Packers traded for
[26:29] Speaker 1: Zaire Franklin from the Colts, but the guy they traded
[26:32] Speaker 1: away to the Colts, today, Colby Wooden got cut. So
[26:36] Speaker 1: I know Zaire Franklin was maybe not long for the
[26:38] Speaker 1: Colts anyways, but that just looks bad. Like the guy
[26:41] Speaker 1: you traded him away for didn't even make your team.
[26:44] Speaker 1: Let's stay with the Steelers. They traded their first round
[26:46] Speaker 1: pick from a couple of years ago, Broderick Jones, who
[26:49] Speaker 1: played both left and right tackle for them. and a
[26:52] Speaker 1: fourth-round pick to the Cowboys for a third and a sixth.
[26:56] Speaker 1: That sounds good until you kind of add it up,
[26:58] Speaker 1: and then you're like, that's really just fifth-round-type value because
[27:01] Speaker 1: you sent the fourth back. So they give up on
[27:04] Speaker 1: Broderick Jones, who's been hurt. The Cowboys need a swing tackle.
[27:08] Speaker 1: They traded away Nate Thomas to the Texans. It was
[27:11] Speaker 1: kind of a trade-a-palooza. We don't like this guy, but
[27:14] Speaker 1: you can have him around the entire NFL. The Patriots
[27:17] Speaker 1: got one from the Vikings, the Texans. traded one to
[27:21] Speaker 1: the 49ers, but these are guys that they ultimately didn't
[27:24] Speaker 1: believe in. I did notice our guy Omar Khan, who
[27:26] Speaker 1: we had on the show, all his draft picks are
[27:30] Speaker 1: either great or they don't last on the team at all.
[27:34] Speaker 1: He has a lot of big swings and misses, and
[27:36] Speaker 1: having to trade a first-round pick a couple years after
[27:38] Speaker 1: you have him for a fifth-round value is a big
[27:40] Speaker 1: loss for him, and we'll see if the Cowboys can
[27:43] Speaker 1: rehabilitate Project Jones' career.
[27:46] Speaker 4: It's interesting because they do need swing tackle depth, but
[27:48] Speaker 4: their offensive line is pretty established as what it's going
[27:50] Speaker 4: to be. And I wouldn't be surprised if some of
[27:53] Speaker 4: their plan for Broderick Jones is using him as like
[27:55] Speaker 4: an extra tackle in some of these jumbo personnel, because
[27:59] Speaker 4: their tight end depth isn't, you know, they have a great,
[28:01] Speaker 4: like a one, you have a great one and they've
[28:03] Speaker 4: got a one too, even, but you know, the, the
[28:06] Speaker 4: tackle depth sometimes can reinforce the fact that you want
[28:10] Speaker 4: to get into some of these heavier personnels, but you
[28:12] Speaker 4: don't necessarily have the tight end depth to do it.
[28:14] Speaker 1: That's why Jordan Roderig makes the big bucks from all
[28:18] Speaker 1: three of the jobs she has. That's a great call
[28:20] Speaker 1: with Clayton Adams, you know, who you profiled there. And
[28:26] Speaker 1: if you think about what Broderick Jones, there was a
[28:27] Speaker 1: minute where he looked like he kind of figured out
[28:29] Speaker 1: that's the thing he does well. He's a big mauler
[28:32] Speaker 1: on the move. So that would absolutely make sense. And yeah,
[28:34] Speaker 1: the way their roster looks, he'll be their third tackle.
[28:37] Speaker 1: The Steelers also caught Landon Roberts, which surprised me. They
[28:39] Speaker 1: caught Malik Harrison, who was kind of a free agent
[28:41] Speaker 1: bust for them. They gave a lot of money to
[28:43] Speaker 1: him last year. from the Ravens, and they also activated
[28:46] Speaker 1: Joey Porter Jr. off their PUP list. Let's go to
[28:51] Speaker 1: the Colts, where I thought they might be in the
[28:53] Speaker 1: quarterback market, but instead they're keeping Anthony Richardson. It appears
[28:56] Speaker 1: that he is the QB, too, because he started the
[28:59] Speaker 1: final preseason game, and he was their best backup quarterback
[29:04] Speaker 1: throughout the preseason, although reportedly at practice, it was a
[29:08] Speaker 1: little tough to... You know, choose who is the best,
[29:11] Speaker 1: but I think Anthony Richardson played the best in the preseason,
[29:13] Speaker 1: so he's probably the backup. They also cut Nick Westbrook-Akina
[29:17] Speaker 1: because they brought in Keenan Allen, who was arrested for
[29:21] Speaker 1: DUI just hours after his preseason appearance for the Colts. Literally,
[29:27] Speaker 1: I think it was that night. They played the game,
[29:29] Speaker 1: and then he got arrested for DWI like hours later
[29:35] Speaker 1: in downtown Indianapolis. So that's very disappointing, but... It does
[29:40] Speaker 1: not mean he's not going to be on the roster.
[29:42] Speaker 1: In fact, he is on the roster right now. And
[29:44] Speaker 1: in general, DUIs take a while to adjudicate and NFL
[29:48] Speaker 1: suspensions don't happen until they do. So just based on
[29:51] Speaker 1: past precedent, unless the Colts want to do something about it,
[29:55] Speaker 1: he probably is just going to be on their roster
[29:56] Speaker 1: this year and face a suspension at some later time.
[30:00] Speaker 1: disappointing you know you bring in keenan allen i'm just
[30:04] Speaker 1: saying like i saw keenan allen you know the leaving
[30:08] Speaker 1: the jail and someone got him on camera and whoever
[30:10] Speaker 1: was driving the car with keenan allen like kind of
[30:12] Speaker 1: yelled at the person who was taking the picture from
[30:15] Speaker 1: a local news site like really bro really you're gonna
[30:17] Speaker 1: do that and i'm thinking like well yeah don't drink
[30:21] Speaker 1: and like don't get arrested for.
[30:22] Speaker 3: Dui Never drink and drive.
[30:26] Speaker 4: Right.
[30:27] Speaker 1: Just like it's not a hot take. Don't be mad
[30:29] Speaker 1: at someone doing.
[30:32] Speaker 4: That.
[30:32] Speaker 1: That's the Colts situation. We'll see if Alec Pierce is
[30:35] Speaker 1: healthy for week one. More QB news. Quinn Ewers is
[30:40] Speaker 1: a Jacksonville Jaguar. The Jaguars swapped 2028 day three picks.
[30:47] Speaker 1: It was like a sixth and a seventh round pick.
[30:48] Speaker 1: Like barely anything to get Quinn Ewers from the Dolphins.
[30:54] Speaker 2: They traded... They gave up so little, Jordan.
[30:57] Speaker 1: You would think this is for their third quarterback spot,
[31:01] Speaker 1: but they released Nick Mullins, and no one else is
[31:04] Speaker 1: on the roster other than Trevor Lawrence, so presumably Quinn Ewers.
[31:08] Speaker 2: Is there backup quarterback?
[31:10] Speaker 1: What are we doing here that backup quarterbacks are so
[31:13] Speaker 1: little valued that all you're doing is trading like late
[31:17] Speaker 1: round pick swaps? There's something about the backup quarterback market
[31:20] Speaker 1: that's completely effed that even the smart teams have not
[31:24] Speaker 1: quite figured out, at least most of them.
[31:26] Speaker 3: I mean, this screams Liam Cohen, honestly.
[31:29] Speaker 4: Like Quinn Ewers is somebody who a couple of people
[31:32] Speaker 4: in the quote unquote, the tree had one eye on.
[31:35] Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel went and pursued him. in part because of, quote-unquote,
[31:40] Speaker 4: being of, quote-unquote, the tree. He just seemed like a fit.
[31:45] Speaker 4: You know, I was on Quinn Ewer's duty last year.
[31:47] Speaker 3: Famously. Not the most fun time.
[31:50] Speaker 4: Of my career.
[31:50] Speaker 2: Haven't stopped complaining about it since.
[31:52] Speaker 1: You know, you should have relished a chance to learn
[31:56] Speaker 1: about a college superstar in his day, you know?
[31:59] Speaker 4: Yeah, so I just, but to me, this is like
[32:02] Speaker 4: a total I can fix him, this is total get
[32:05] Speaker 4: him in my system type of move here. Um, the
[32:08] Speaker 4: Hunter long trade to the Cardinals is interesting because the
[32:11] Speaker 4: Cardinals are going to want to play 13 personnel, but
[32:13] Speaker 4: tip Ryman's on PUP.
[32:15] Speaker 3: So, and he was their third.
[32:17] Speaker 4: So now Hunter long, we'll sort of fast track into
[32:19] Speaker 4: the third spot and Mike LaFleur we'll get to the
[32:22] Speaker 4: Cardinals in a minute, but Michael floor has a lot
[32:23] Speaker 4: of familiarity with him. Obviously the Jaguars went out and
[32:27] Speaker 4: were active in the draft at tight end. So they've
[32:29] Speaker 4: sort of replaced him anyway. That's sort of one of
[32:30] Speaker 4: those rare win-win trades, although not as rare this time
[32:33] Speaker 4: of year, when you have these sort of late, late
[32:36] Speaker 4: depth chart guys swapping for each other.
[32:38] Speaker 1: Okay, I guess what I'm thinking about this depth chart
[32:41] Speaker 1: thing is, you could have invested more in a better
[32:47] Speaker 1: veteran in the offseason. Why is Jameis Winston only making
[32:51] Speaker 1: $ 4 million a year if half the league is trading
[32:55] Speaker 1: a 6th, 7th pick swap to get their quarterback to.
[32:59] Speaker 2: late. You know what I mean?
[33:00] Speaker 1: It's just worth the money. I think like Joe Flacco
[33:03] Speaker 1: only got $ 6 million. That would be worth the money
[33:06] Speaker 1: because basically you're saying if Trevor Lawrence is hurt, the
[33:08] Speaker 1: season's completely over, which maybe that's just a realistic way
[33:13] Speaker 1: to look that you'd be done with Jameis Winston and
[33:15] Speaker 1: whoever too, but I don't know.
[33:18] Speaker 4: Also, one thing that you fail to factor into this
[33:21] Speaker 4: equation is the idea that Somebody can build him and
[33:26] Speaker 4: make him do all of the things that I want
[33:29] Speaker 4: you to do and point and shoot at where I
[33:31] Speaker 4: tell you. And you're not factoring in the little bit
[33:34] Speaker 4: of that, like in the back, maybe subconscious, maybe in
[33:37] Speaker 4: the forefront of some people's minds that, hey, if I
[33:39] Speaker 4: get this guy, I can really make something happen with him.
[33:42] Speaker 1: Like Drew Locke's making $ 2. 5 million a year. I just
[33:45] Speaker 1: feel like that's actually quite a bargain compared to what
[33:48] Speaker 1: these good teams are having to be stuck doing just
[33:51] Speaker 1: to have someone that's played and knows how to play quarterback.
[33:53] Speaker 2: All right. I'm lingering way too long on these quarterbacks.
[33:56] Speaker 2: I apologize.
[33:56] Speaker 1: Yes.
[33:57] Speaker 2: But you know what?
[33:57] Speaker 4: You've opened the door and now I'm walking through it.
[33:59] Speaker 4: So I, I really think though that you see where,
[34:04] Speaker 4: where the league sees guys that really are high value backups.
[34:07] Speaker 4: Like that clearly the Rams, when they paid Jimmy Garoppolo,
[34:11] Speaker 4: they thought he was, he was making something like five
[34:13] Speaker 4: or 6 million a year. Marcus Mariota, uh, unfortunately is hurt,
[34:17] Speaker 4: but one of the best backup quarterbacks in the NFL,
[34:20] Speaker 4: you saw, you saw the team really. So it's like,
[34:23] Speaker 4: it's not that they're not going to pay these guys.
[34:25] Speaker 4: It's that there's a huge drop off between the backup
[34:28] Speaker 4: quarterbacks that the league thinks are very good and can
[34:31] Speaker 4: help them win some games. Davis Mills can help them
[34:34] Speaker 4: win some games or, and the ones that they just don't,
[34:36] Speaker 4: that they don't regard that way.
[34:38] Speaker 2: Fair.
[34:38] Speaker 1: It's still the toughest position in sport. There's just not
[34:41] Speaker 1: enough great ones around. Speaking of which the Titans had a, uh,
[34:45] Speaker 1: former future franchise quarterback in Will Levis. He is now
[34:49] Speaker 1: on waivers. Any team could claim Will Levis. I mean,
[34:52] Speaker 1: I assume he's going to get a job because someone
[34:55] Speaker 1: will try to turn his career around, but they couldn't
[34:58] Speaker 1: find a trade partner for him. I mentioned Kyle McCord earlier.
[35:01] Speaker 1: He is the guy replacing Quinn Ewers. Quinn Ewers was
[35:05] Speaker 1: traded for a pick swap. The Dolphins traded a clean
[35:09] Speaker 1: 2028 sixth to get Kyle McCord. I'm actually surprised the
[35:14] Speaker 1: Packers gave him up just because he had such an
[35:17] Speaker 1: awesome preseason that I thought Matt LaFleur would look at
[35:20] Speaker 1: it like, hey, here's a guy maybe we could have
[35:22] Speaker 1: as our two slash three for a couple of years
[35:25] Speaker 1: at very cheap price that I'm developing.
[35:28] Speaker 2: I mean, he looked gangbuster.
[35:29] Speaker 1: He's kind of a feather in Matt LaFleur's cap that
[35:32] Speaker 1: he looked so bad in Philadelphia last year. And you
[35:34] Speaker 1: have him like he was one of the preseason MVPs,
[35:37] Speaker 1: but it shows you how little they valued that because
[35:39] Speaker 1: they just they still just gave him up for a
[35:41] Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. And he presumably is the the Dolphins
[35:46] Speaker 1: backup and Dolphins like you can do something other than
[35:49] Speaker 1: just go get old Packers backup quarterbacks. Jeff Halfley, you know,
[35:53] Speaker 1: you're allowed to do that.
[35:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[35:55] Speaker 3: And they have Tyrod Taylor there, too.
[35:58] Speaker 4: And I think part of it probably is who's going
[36:01] Speaker 4: to run the scout team better because you need a
[36:04] Speaker 4: player who's going to be able to do that. And
[36:06] Speaker 4: you're not necessarily thinking about his development long term. Um,
[36:10] Speaker 4: you are instead thinking about who's going to run your
[36:13] Speaker 4: scout team. And it's one of those teams where it's like,
[36:16] Speaker 4: I think Tyrod is a great backup. And I think
[36:18] Speaker 4: that he does a lot of the things that Matt
[36:20] Speaker 4: LaFleur wants his backup quarterbacks to do. But I don't
[36:24] Speaker 4: think that Matt LaFleur is, is wanting to get back
[36:26] Speaker 4: in the quarterback development business and then have someone else
[36:29] Speaker 4: pay the guy that you just developed for a few years,
[36:31] Speaker 4: you know? Yeah.
[36:32] Speaker 2: That's that I get. That's fair. Um, you're right.
[36:36] Speaker 1: I just thought they'd keep three quarterbacks because quarterbacks is
[36:38] Speaker 1: so important, but To me, when you make a trade
[36:40] Speaker 1: like that, it's because you don't believe in your heart
[36:43] Speaker 1: Kyle McCord could be your long-term backup. And so they
[36:46] Speaker 1: essentially disagreed with Miami's assessment. Jeff Halfley had some interesting
[36:50] Speaker 1: quotes after their preseason game, which I wanted to throw
[36:53] Speaker 1: to you as.
[36:55] Speaker 3: Ms.
[36:55] Speaker 2: Dolphins on this podcast. Okay.
[36:58] Speaker 1: He said, no, I appreciated these comments, by the way.
[37:02] Speaker 1: In other news, by the way, for the Dolphins before
[37:04] Speaker 1: we get to half of these comments, they put Kenneth
[37:06] Speaker 1: Grant on injured reserve designated to return. So that's a
[37:09] Speaker 1: serious injury for their defensive tackle.
[37:11] Speaker 2: First round pick.
[37:12] Speaker 1: They had one of the most surprising cuts to me
[37:15] Speaker 1: of the day with Tyrell Dodson, who is a longtime
[37:18] Speaker 1: starter for them. Jacob Rodriguez will be the starter there.
[37:21] Speaker 1: as a rookie, which isn't a shock, but Dodson is
[37:24] Speaker 1: a good player. He'll get picked up somewhere. Hefley said
[37:27] Speaker 1: after the preseason game that success this year will not
[37:30] Speaker 1: be measured in wins and losses. And he went on
[37:34] Speaker 1: from there talking about what was going to be important
[37:37] Speaker 1: was seeing how much they could develop their players, especially
[37:40] Speaker 1: their young players. Not a surprise that that's how they're thinking, Jordan.
[37:46] Speaker 1: Rare to hear an organization and a coach say, be
[37:50] Speaker 1: so straightforward with this year is not about wins and losses.
[37:55] Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Yeah.
[37:57] Speaker 4: He's telling the truth because how could you look at
[37:59] Speaker 4: this roster and think anything else? Honestly, what really annoyed
[38:03] Speaker 4: me actually was watching some of the takes on this
[38:08] Speaker 4: or the social media on this, which was, oh, wow,
[38:11] Speaker 4: they're admitting they're tanking or whatever.
[38:13] Speaker 3: Like, No, this is the, this is.
[38:15] Speaker 4: The phase of the rebuild where you don't set expectations
[38:19] Speaker 4: on the roster that you have. And everybody is very,
[38:22] Speaker 4: very clear on what this team is and what their
[38:26] Speaker 4: goal is to get better over the course of a season.
[38:29] Speaker 2: That's it.
[38:30] Speaker 4: Do you know, it's for these young players too. And
[38:32] Speaker 4: some of them who I thought really flashed positively in the,
[38:35] Speaker 4: in the preseason for these young players, that's maybe the
[38:38] Speaker 4: best thing you can do for them as a head
[38:40] Speaker 4: coach is to just totally remove Any pressure, any expectations
[38:44] Speaker 4: and say, go out there and get better every single week.
[38:48] Speaker 4: And that is how we will grade your time here.
[38:51] Speaker 4: Like that's that's one of the it's a gift you
[38:54] Speaker 4: do not get in the NFL.
[38:55] Speaker 3: You just don't.
[38:57] Speaker 2: I like it. And I hope those quotes aren't thrown
[38:59] Speaker 2: back at them. They won't be.
[39:00] Speaker 1: And I think everyone there understands them. Even the veterans
[39:03] Speaker 1: that they got on board to sign long term contracts
[39:06] Speaker 1: like Jordan Brooks, like Devani Chan.
[39:08] Speaker 2: I think, understand that. And I think they've been sweet
[39:10] Speaker 2: with everything. So I'm with you.
[39:12] Speaker 1: I think they've approached it the right way, whether it
[39:14] Speaker 1: all works out like that comes down to how good
[39:17] Speaker 1: their player evaluation and development is in terms of the draft.
[39:20] Speaker 1: And we'll find out about that as we go.
[39:22] Speaker 2: All right.
[39:22] Speaker 1: The rest of the news, there's just like a firestorm
[39:26] Speaker 1: of transactions.
[39:26] Speaker 2: And you're right.
[39:27] Speaker 1: Some are happening now. Cater Kohu was cut by the Chiefs.
[39:30] Speaker 1: So while you were talking before you told me about
[39:32] Speaker 1: the Chiefs, that was surprising news to me. And these
[39:34] Speaker 1: are just like the little veteran news. Kier Elam, who's
[39:37] Speaker 1: a first round pick from just three years ago, might
[39:39] Speaker 1: be out of the league now. That's less surprising. He
[39:41] Speaker 1: got cut by the Chiefs. So did Emmanuel Agba, familiar name.
[39:44] Speaker 1: But Cater Kohu was a guy that just hasn't been
[39:48] Speaker 1: able to get over injuries and was a guy I
[39:50] Speaker 1: thought would have a big role for the Chiefs when
[39:52] Speaker 1: they first signed him, and now he does not even
[39:54] Speaker 1: make the team. Speaking of fun slot corners, Kyler Gordon
[39:58] Speaker 1: for the Bears, placed on the PUP list. Jalen Jones,
[40:02] Speaker 1: one of two Jalen Joneses in the NFL, don't know
[40:04] Speaker 1: if you're tracking that situation because it confused me today,
[40:09] Speaker 1: was placed on injured reserve.
[40:10] Speaker 2: He was a key reserve.
[40:12] Speaker 1: We've been talking about their secondary is really banged up
[40:15] Speaker 1: in the Kyler Gordon news continues to get worse. PUP
[40:18] Speaker 1: into the season means you miss at least the first,
[40:22] Speaker 1: what is it, four to five games of the season.
[40:24] Speaker 1: I think then you can start practicing and possibly return.
[40:27] Speaker 1: So Gordon's going to be out for a while. They
[40:30] Speaker 1: also traded Gervon Dexter, who was a high pick a
[40:34] Speaker 1: couple years ago. One of Ryan Poles' misses, and he's
[40:38] Speaker 1: had some pretty big misses with guys up front. um
[40:42] Speaker 1: and but he started 19 games uh a year ago
[40:45] Speaker 1: every single game they played he started uh they traded
[40:47] Speaker 1: him to the falcons for a fifth rounder and clark
[40:51] Speaker 1: phillips so i look at their front and the names
[40:56] Speaker 1: don't inspire you i just hope they they know what
[40:59] Speaker 1: they're doing i i trust their evaluation of gravon dexter
[41:02] Speaker 1: that it wasn't going to work out they've had him
[41:03] Speaker 1: for a number of years but the names behind them,
[41:07] Speaker 1: including Grady Jarrett, you know, don't make you think that's
[41:09] Speaker 1: a plus position.
[41:11] Speaker 2: And then on the edge, it's similar to that.
[41:13] Speaker 4: Galaxy brain thinking other teams score as fast as possible
[41:17] Speaker 4: so that we get the ball in our hands as
[41:18] Speaker 4: many times as possible. No, I mean, I, one of
[41:22] Speaker 4: the best posts that I saw about this Gervon Dexter
[41:25] Speaker 4: situation was, I believe it was my colleague, Ted Wynn,
[41:29] Speaker 4: who said, do the bears know something about their defensive tackle.
[41:32] Speaker 3: Depth that we don't know?
[41:33] Speaker 4: And I, this certainly seems like they think they do.
[41:38] Speaker 3: I'm not saying they do, but that they think they do.
[41:41] Speaker 4: And I would say I do think that the, I mean,
[41:44] Speaker 4: I always will love Grady Jarrett.
[41:46] Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite players of all time. I
[41:49] Speaker 3: don't know if you knew that.
[41:50] Speaker 4: And also Neville Gallimore, not a bad like rotational D line. Again,
[41:55] Speaker 4: these are all guys who you're like, ooh, in a rotation,
[41:58] Speaker 4: I could really see that working out.
[41:59] Speaker 3: But the problem is, is it's not really that.
[42:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, Contavious Street is probably DT3 there. James Lynch is there.
[42:07] Speaker 2: We'll see.
[42:08] Speaker 1: It's because they're surrounded by an edge group that you're
[42:10] Speaker 1: not sure about. Their defense is a huge question mark
[42:12] Speaker 1: coming into the season. They cut Jedrick Wills, by the way.
[42:15] Speaker 1: the former first-round pick of the Browns who was trying
[42:17] Speaker 1: to make a comeback after missing all of last year.
[42:20] Speaker 1: He is the odd man out in that four-way tackle
[42:22] Speaker 1: battle that they have. Marcus Davenport, the former Saint, was
[42:26] Speaker 1: also cut by that team. Also getting cut, the Bucs
[42:29] Speaker 1: cut Jake Browning, who then told them, I am not
[42:33] Speaker 1: going to your practice squad. He presumably has an option elsewhere.
[42:37] Speaker 1: either someone else's practice squad or someone else's active roster.
[42:40] Speaker 1: He probably wasn't thrilled about getting cut. But one of
[42:43] Speaker 1: my favorite stories of a guy making the team, UDFA,
[42:47] Speaker 1: Jalen Daniels, the prospect from Kansas is their QB too
[42:51] Speaker 1: behind Baker Mayfield. He had an awesome preseason. He was
[42:55] Speaker 1: fun to watch. I mean, again, it's you're put, you're
[42:58] Speaker 1: just hoping Baker stays healthy. If not, they'll at least
[43:01] Speaker 1: be like, wow, Jalen Daniels is starting an NFL game
[43:04] Speaker 1: in 2026. And unless they bring in some sort of
[43:06] Speaker 1: veteran and, And they could be a team where, like,
[43:08] Speaker 1: if you told me they got Andy Dalton for basically
[43:11] Speaker 1: nothing tomorrow, that would kind of make sense.
[43:14] Speaker 4: I'm on vibes watch for the Bucks quarterback room, too,
[43:16] Speaker 4: which I think this is a part of it, is, like,
[43:20] Speaker 4: make everybody feel as good as possible. And then as
[43:25] Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield continues to want to get paid, just, you know,
[43:29] Speaker 4: I guess we're on notice watch for a lot of
[43:30] Speaker 4: different things with a lot of connotations of the word notice.
[43:33] Speaker 1: We are also noticing... A viewer who is right to
[43:37] Speaker 1: point out Jordan Vanderberg is what the Bears know. Yes,
[43:41] Speaker 1: a young player that Brian Baldinger shouted out on their
[43:44] Speaker 1: defensive line. So sometimes it's these young players that you
[43:48] Speaker 1: never heard of that they're developing, and maybe it's Vanderberg.
[43:51] Speaker 1: That's a Bears name if I ever heard one. Let's
[43:54] Speaker 1: go to the Cardinals who put James Conner on injured reserve,
[43:57] Speaker 1: designated to return not surprising news. We'll see if he
[44:02] Speaker 1: plays for them or not. It's just been a really
[44:05] Speaker 1: serious injury he's trying to come back from. They also
[44:07] Speaker 1: cut Trey Benson. So as I mentioned last week, they
[44:10] Speaker 1: are quite thin at running back, even though going into
[44:13] Speaker 1: the offseason, they had so many guys. They cut B.J. Ojolari,
[44:15] Speaker 1: who was a high day two pick a few years ago.
[44:18] Speaker 1: Tip Ryman, who is a tight end. I know you
[44:21] Speaker 1: like a lot. You mentioned that earlier that created. a
[44:24] Speaker 1: tight end shortage for them. He is going to the
[44:26] Speaker 1: PUP list. Christian Gonzalez, hashtag noticing that him and the
[44:29] Speaker 1: Patriots don't seem close on a contract. And Gonzalez, who's
[44:33] Speaker 1: very soft-spoken and very diplomatic, the most out-of-bounds thing said
[44:38] Speaker 1: in this entire contract standoff was actually by Patriots ownership,
[44:42] Speaker 1: who kind of called out Gonzalez for not taking a
[44:45] Speaker 1: contract that would make him the highest paid cornerback in
[44:47] Speaker 1: the league, even though we know they're probably fudging the numbers.
[44:50] Speaker 1: And Gonzalez just seems a little less... happy about the
[44:54] Speaker 1: situation now and just something to watch as they enter
[44:57] Speaker 1: the season. I don't buy the Patriots kind of blogosphere
[45:02] Speaker 1: panicking of like, could Christian Gonzalez be on the trade block?
[45:05] Speaker 2: I really, really doubt it.
[45:06] Speaker 1: But there's a chance he just plays under his current
[45:07] Speaker 1: contract and isn't happy about it. They also put their
[45:11] Speaker 1: swing tackle Marcus Bryant to injured reserve, which means their
[45:14] Speaker 1: first round pick Caleb Lomu will have to step up
[45:16] Speaker 1: Harold Landry, who's a starting edge for them. is on PUP,
[45:19] Speaker 1: so he's out for at least the first month of
[45:21] Speaker 1: the season. And they showed you where they're not feeling
[45:24] Speaker 1: comfortable about their roster by trading for a running back
[45:27] Speaker 1: from Arizona, trading for a tackle from Minnesota. I'm not
[45:31] Speaker 1: going to pretend I have takes on these guys, but
[45:33] Speaker 1: it just shows they do not feel good about those
[45:35] Speaker 1: positions right now.
[45:36] Speaker 2: What did Mike Rabel call their depth? I forget.
[45:40] Speaker 3: Not good.
[45:42] Speaker 1: Yes. I think it was dog poop. I think it
[45:44] Speaker 1: was dog poop. Yeah, and just we're not very good
[45:48] Speaker 1: right now. And their third preseason game supported. It was
[45:51] Speaker 1: funny because after he said that, you know, they don't
[45:54] Speaker 1: send out any starters for their third preseason game. And
[45:56] Speaker 1: they get boat raced by the Browns and Dylan Gabriel.
[45:59] Speaker 3: He's like standing there like, see?
[46:02] Speaker 2: That's right. A little worried about that week one game
[46:05] Speaker 2: in Seattle.
[46:07] Speaker 1: You just want a close game, even if you're not
[46:09] Speaker 1: a Patriots fan in week one for the kickoff game.
[46:12] Speaker 1: One thing I noticed was a fun story for the Bengals.
[46:16] Speaker 1: Dante Myers made the team. And so they kind of
[46:18] Speaker 1: swapped out some of their depth wide receivers. I think
[46:21] Speaker 1: this might be the best wide receiver room top to
[46:23] Speaker 1: bottom in the entire league. Colby Young and Dante Myers
[46:26] Speaker 1: both look great in preseason. And so they got rid
[46:28] Speaker 1: of some of their old guys. Charlie Jones has been
[46:30] Speaker 1: a returner for them for a while. Mitchell Tinsley was
[46:32] Speaker 1: a fun camp story in the past. But Dante Myers
[46:35] Speaker 1: was the guy we talked about in one of our
[46:37] Speaker 1: Sunday shows who had no D1 offers. who was just
[46:42] Speaker 1: working a regular job, who paid out of his own
[46:46] Speaker 1: money $ 100 to try out for the CFL. And from
[46:51] Speaker 1: that tryout, made a CFL team and then balled out.
[46:55] Speaker 1: Very undersized. He's like 5'7, something like that, receiver. And
[47:00] Speaker 1: he makes this team. And they're pretty excited about him.
[47:03] Speaker 1: And it has a lot of similarities to me to
[47:05] Speaker 1: the Andrew Hawkins story with Cincinnati, who had kind of a,
[47:10] Speaker 1: Some details were a little different, but the undersized and
[47:13] Speaker 1: coming through the other leagues and being out of football.
[47:15] Speaker 1: I love the short Kings, Jordan, and Dante Myers.
[47:19] Speaker 4: I know you do, Greg.
[47:19] Speaker 2: He's my new guy.
[47:20] Speaker 3: He's my new guy.
[47:21] Speaker 4: I remember when I told you a couple weeks ago
[47:23] Speaker 4: about how you're going to start to see the Bengals
[47:26] Speaker 4: front office flex a lot of what their abilities are
[47:30] Speaker 4: and what they can do and basically leave the entire
[47:32] Speaker 4: onus on the coaching staff to make all of this
[47:34] Speaker 4: work finally with this roster.
[47:36] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[47:38] Speaker 4: Um, this is one of those things also like a very,
[47:41] Speaker 4: very small scouting and front office executive staff famously. So
[47:45] Speaker 4: are infamously. So I guess in Cincinnati and they're like, look,
[47:49] Speaker 4: look who we can find. This guy is gold. Like, look,
[47:52] Speaker 4: you know, among all of our other things we did look.
[47:55] Speaker 4: And so I just, I told you, I said that
[47:57] Speaker 4: they're going to start flexing left and right here just
[47:59] Speaker 4: to make it extremely clear who's on the line here.
[48:03] Speaker 1: He's really not that small. I was just wish casting.
[48:06] Speaker 1: He's listed five, 11, one 86. That's pretty normal.
[48:08] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[48:08] Speaker 2: What did you say?
[48:09] Speaker 3: He was five, seven. No, you're five, seven. No, you're
[48:12] Speaker 3: not five, seven.
[48:13] Speaker 2: You're five, four, five, seven, five, six, five, six.
[48:15] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[48:16] Speaker 1: Um, yeah, I guess, I guess he's no baby Hawk,
[48:19] Speaker 1: but the, the, he had the, the conversation with the
[48:22] Speaker 1: media afterwards where he had the tearful call with his
[48:26] Speaker 1: entire family and they were on and he starts crying
[48:29] Speaker 1: immediately and, He said then once he cries, they cry.
[48:32] Speaker 2: And that stuff is great.
[48:34] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[48:34] Speaker 2: He's on the team.
[48:35] Speaker 1: Joe Fanano from the Ravens, the UConn undrafted quarterback, made
[48:39] Speaker 1: their team. That intrigued me. The Seahawks, as I mentioned,
[48:43] Speaker 1: finally signed Terryon Arnold. He's immediately placed on the commissioner's exemplars.
[48:47] Speaker 1: John Schneider spoke about the long-term aspects of this signing.
[48:51] Speaker 1: 2027 could really be the vision, I think, for Terryon Arnold.
[48:57] Speaker 1: He's not going to be a part of this year's
[48:58] Speaker 1: team anytime soon, maybe not at all. They traded a
[49:02] Speaker 1: sixth-round pick from a guy who was getting some buzz
[49:05] Speaker 1: when we were at Chargers camp, an undrafted rookie named
[49:07] Speaker 1: Avery Smith. I know Joe Hortiz is great, but wouldn't
[49:11] Speaker 1: you be a little worried about trading a cornerback to
[49:13] Speaker 1: the Seahawks?
[49:15] Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to do it.
[49:16] Speaker 4: Well, and his college tape is great.
[49:20] Speaker 3: He is sticky.
[49:21] Speaker 4: He, he makes plays. The fact that a guy like
[49:24] Speaker 4: that is going to Mike McDonald. Okay.
[49:28] Speaker 3: Let's, let's see how that works out for the chargers.
[49:30] Speaker 4: I guess.
[49:31] Speaker 1: I think they got a sixth with, you know, if
[49:33] Speaker 1: you're just looking brass tacks, they felt like their secondary
[49:36] Speaker 1: room was deep. You know, you have an undrafted guy
[49:39] Speaker 1: and you pick up a sixth round pick. I guess
[49:41] Speaker 1: that's a win. But the much bigger win is if
[49:43] Speaker 1: you find an undrafted guy that can contribute to you.
[49:46] Speaker 1: So I'm surprised they didn't do that. Tony Jefferson was
[49:49] Speaker 1: going to be part of that crowded secondary. We heard
[49:52] Speaker 1: early in the day that they were going to cut
[49:53] Speaker 1: him from Adam Schefter. Then later in the day, they
[49:55] Speaker 1: made a couple of trades and that opened up room
[49:57] Speaker 1: for Tony Jefferson. So our favorite 34-year-old.
[50:00] Speaker 2: Unk is on the team.
[50:02] Speaker 1: 34. Just the prime of athletic life, right?
[50:07] Speaker 2: Jordan Rodrigue. Famous 34 year old.
[50:09] Speaker 3: For some.
[50:11] Speaker 1: I mean, you're maybe not athletic like playing, but how
[50:14] Speaker 1: about working for the athletic and doing three jobs right now?
[50:18] Speaker 1: You're just you're just entering your prime. You're like, I'm
[50:21] Speaker 1: trying to think of a comp. You're three Drake May
[50:24] Speaker 1: right now, you know?
[50:25] Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That's the nicest thing I've ever said
[50:29] Speaker 2: to you.
[50:29] Speaker 3: That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.
[50:32] Speaker 1: The Seahawks also cut Trevon Diggs, by the way. I
[50:34] Speaker 1: don't want to linger too much on this compliment and,
[50:37] Speaker 1: you know, get a big head there.
[50:39] Speaker 2: Monterey Foster.
[50:41] Speaker 1: Everyone, like literally my son, who's into cut down day
[50:45] Speaker 1: and stuff, did not want any Seahawks hard knock spoilers.
[50:48] Speaker 1: But Monterey Foster, who's probably the most likable kind of
[50:52] Speaker 1: under the radar Seahawks guy in hard knocks, has made
[50:56] Speaker 1: the initial roster. So I'm looking forward to that being shown.
[50:58] Speaker 1: And hopefully he, Continues to make the roster because, as
[51:01] Speaker 1: we say, these things are written in pencil right now.
[51:04] Speaker 1: The Cowboys cut the player from the Navajo Nation, Shaz Pete,
[51:10] Speaker 1: who had that great locker room speech.
[51:12] Speaker 4: Amazing speech.
[51:13] Speaker 2: I hope he lands on their practice. Oh, my gosh.
[51:15] Speaker 2: I hope he lands on that practice squad.
[51:16] Speaker 1: More surprising was Jaden Blue, their fifth-round pick from a
[51:20] Speaker 1: year ago at running back being cut. I mentioned Nate
[51:22] Speaker 1: Thomas got traded to the Texans. Camden Brown was an
[51:25] Speaker 1: undrafted rookie at receiver who made a bunch of big
[51:27] Speaker 1: catches in the preseason. He made the team. Sam Williams
[51:30] Speaker 1: was a high pick a few years ago. He got
[51:33] Speaker 1: cut in a pretty crowded edge room. The Raiders had
[51:36] Speaker 1: some disappointing edge news. Kieran Crawford was one of the
[51:40] Speaker 1: first picks of the third round. Maybe the first is
[51:43] Speaker 1: out for the season. They put him on injured reserve.
[51:46] Speaker 1: That was disappointing. I had no clue that that was
[51:48] Speaker 1: a serious injury. I thought he was going to be
[51:50] Speaker 1: a factor for them this year. They also only kept
[51:53] Speaker 1: three running backs right now. So that's if you're If
[51:56] Speaker 1: you're in fantasy leagues with Ashton Gentry, that might be
[51:58] Speaker 1: a good sign, although they could always look to see
[52:00] Speaker 1: who got cut over the last few days. But good
[52:03] Speaker 1: news for Gentry.
[52:04] Speaker 4: It's also a huge sign of what they think of
[52:06] Speaker 4: Mike Washington, too. And they think very, very, very highly
[52:11] Speaker 4: of him, as you would hope, based on the potential
[52:14] Speaker 4: that he's shown.
[52:15] Speaker 3: Been doing some digging around on that one. They love
[52:18] Speaker 3: that guy.
[52:19] Speaker 1: Another couple big runs in that preseason game. I.
[52:24] Speaker 2: Got a little overexcited.
[52:25] Speaker 1: And said, like, I'm not sure that Dash and Denty
[52:32] Speaker 1: is better than him.
[52:33] Speaker 2: Just like, period.
[52:33] Speaker 3: Oh, Greg.
[52:37] Speaker 2: I mean.
[52:37] Speaker 4: You do.
[52:37] Speaker 3: This is. I do.
[52:39] Speaker 4: Sometimes when you do, you do get excited. And then,
[52:42] Speaker 4: you know, sometimes things like that come out. Sometimes compliments
[52:44] Speaker 4: come out.
[52:45] Speaker 3: So I just sort of like sit back and let
[52:47] Speaker 3: you cook a little bit.
[52:48] Speaker 1: I'm going to stand on it. Everyone was like, well,
[52:51] Speaker 1: let's see how he does it. You know, it's not
[52:53] Speaker 1: against third stringers. If you're watching the game, it's about
[52:57] Speaker 1: the traits. Like, when you're watching the preseason, the juice
[53:00] Speaker 1: is the juice. You can see it. And the thing
[53:03] Speaker 1: I didn't like about Jenty last year sometimes, and I
[53:06] Speaker 1: know he broke a lot of tackles, I think he's
[53:07] Speaker 1: going to be a really good pro. My overarching point was,
[53:11] Speaker 1: if you told me they're in the same bucket of, like,
[53:14] Speaker 1: good running backs in the NFL... That's around the same bucket.
[53:18] Speaker 1: That is the expected outcome I have now. That's how
[53:21] Speaker 1: highly I think of Mike Washington.
[53:22] Speaker 2: But maybe I'll be wrong. They're going to use him, though.
[53:26] Speaker 2: You're the one. You should be patting yourself on the back.
[53:28] Speaker 1: You said he had some stuff to him, you know,
[53:30] Speaker 1: right off the bat.
[53:31] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[53:32] Speaker 2: And he does.
[53:33] Speaker 4: I saw him play against the Texans' defense. I'm a believer. Now,
[53:37] Speaker 4: I'm not going to get as carried away as you are,
[53:39] Speaker 4: but that's the old Roderick Hedge right there.
[53:42] Speaker 3: Never have a take.
[53:44] Speaker 2: Our friend... That's the bad podcasting. You've got to have takes.
[53:47] Speaker 1: Our friend Chris Wesseling, our old friend, would always say
[53:51] Speaker 1: that the one position in the preseason you can scout
[53:54] Speaker 1: easier than others is running back.
[53:55] Speaker 2: It's true.
[53:55] Speaker 1: Because it's the only time when it actually matters, actual gameplay.
[53:58] Speaker 1: And you can see it with your eyes, the ones
[54:00] Speaker 1: that are going to stick.
[54:01] Speaker 4: That's why I will be really surprised if the Cowboys,
[54:05] Speaker 4: among other teams, are not a team that's keeping an
[54:07] Speaker 4: eye on the fact that the Rams just had to
[54:10] Speaker 4: cut Dean Connors, the back out of Houston.
[54:13] Speaker 2: Good call.
[54:14] Speaker 4: I'm on noticing watch on that one, too.
[54:16] Speaker 1: I think there's going to be a lot of quarterbacks
[54:19] Speaker 1: and running backs changing position and changing rosters over the
[54:24] Speaker 1: next few days.
[54:24] Speaker 2: Some claims at those positions. I have a comment here.
[54:28] Speaker 1: That Washington's upright running style reminds him of Matt Forte. Now,
[54:32] Speaker 1: Matt Forte, you know, one of the greatest receiving backs
[54:36] Speaker 1: of all time, I think, like of my lifetime covering
[54:39] Speaker 1: the league, like so good in pass pro and catching
[54:42] Speaker 1: the ball. But if Washington can run like Matt Forte,
[54:45] Speaker 1: one of my absolute favorites, I see it. I do
[54:48] Speaker 1: see the vision as just like a tougher than you
[54:51] Speaker 1: think upright runner. The Commanders, and we're wrapping up here,
[54:55] Speaker 1: just a few more teams to get to. Cut Julian Good-Jones.
[54:59] Speaker 1: Hashtag noticing the guy they had snapping the ball to
[55:01] Speaker 1: Jane Daniels as the starter in that preseason game. Didn't
[55:05] Speaker 1: even make the team. That's a bad sign for the team.
[55:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
[55:09] Speaker 1: That they just don't know what they're doing at center.
[55:11] Speaker 1: I know they hope Nick Allegretti gets healthy, but I
[55:13] Speaker 1: think they might be looking for a center on the
[55:15] Speaker 1: waiver wire.
[55:16] Speaker 2: It's like, good luck. Everybody is.
[55:18] Speaker 4: Right.
[55:18] Speaker 2: Everybody is.
[55:20] Speaker 3: There's so many teams that need a center or a
[55:22] Speaker 3: backup center right now. It's crazy.
[55:24] Speaker 1: And they're looking for like a starting center. And I
[55:26] Speaker 1: know Nick Allegretti might get healthy, but he hasn't been.
[55:29] Speaker 1: So we'll see. And even he hasn't played much. Trey
[55:31] Speaker 1: Amos was their top cornerback coming into the offseason. He's
[55:34] Speaker 1: on injured reserve designated to return. That's really disappointing for them.
[55:37] Speaker 1: Tank Dell is on injured reserve designated to return. Less
[55:40] Speaker 1: disappointing for him. I think it was always going to
[55:43] Speaker 1: be a long process, him coming back. You know, the
[55:45] Speaker 1: fact that it is designated to return. makes you believe
[55:49] Speaker 1: that they think Tank Dell will get there eventually this season.
[55:52] Speaker 1: There's only a few of those slots available throughout the season,
[55:55] Speaker 1: so they wouldn't use one on him unless they thought
[55:57] Speaker 1: he was coming back, but he won't be available early
[55:59] Speaker 1: in the season.
[56:00] Speaker 2: Jared Wayne made that team.
[56:02] Speaker 1: He's bounced off their practice squad for a number of years,
[56:05] Speaker 1: but he had a good camp.
[56:05] Speaker 2: He made the team at wide receiver.
[56:07] Speaker 1: The Panthers kept Haynes Kang on the roster, our Hall
[56:12] Speaker 1: of Fame game hero, Haynes Kang. The Hall of Fame
[56:14] Speaker 1: game matters, Jordan. Carson Beck, I mean, he was always
[56:17] Speaker 1: going to make the team.
[56:18] Speaker 2: Never forget.
[56:19] Speaker 1: Haynes King, I think, made the team basically off that
[56:21] Speaker 1: day because he's been barely healthy since. I think he's
[56:24] Speaker 1: back out on the field now, but he made the
[56:27] Speaker 1: Panthers team. Are you excited for the Haynes King era
[56:29] Speaker 1: in Carolina?
[56:31] Speaker 4: Sure.
[56:32] Speaker 2: I'm feeling bad.
[56:32] Speaker 1: Eric, this is where Eric is like, this is the
[56:34] Speaker 1: last time a lot of these guys are going to
[56:35] Speaker 1: get mentioned on the show.
[56:36] Speaker 2: You know what?
[56:37] Speaker 1: But they're people too. They had some injury news in
[56:39] Speaker 1: Carolina too. Tershawn Wharton and Ikim Kanwu to the PUP list.
[56:46] Speaker 1: Not a surprise for either of them, especially Wharton, though
[56:49] Speaker 1: I was keeping an eye on who hasn't been healthy
[56:50] Speaker 1: at all. Taylor Moten to the non-football injury list. He's
[56:53] Speaker 1: expected to miss at least half the season. The Browns
[56:55] Speaker 1: I mentioned kept four quarterbacks for a second, and then
[56:59] Speaker 1: they put Dylan Gabriel on injured reserve. Talon Green, the
[57:03] Speaker 1: dual threat Arkansas quarterback, keep an eye on him. If
[57:10] Speaker 1: we were still doing sandwiches, Jordan, or maybe if we
[57:15] Speaker 1: stand on the tiny table.
[57:16] Speaker 2: To make predictions like we did once, I would.
[57:19] Speaker 1: Stand on the tiny table and say, Talon Green is
[57:23] Speaker 1: the quarterback that the least amount of people know about
[57:27] Speaker 1: that will start a game in the NFL in the
[57:29] Speaker 1: year 2026. Like, Talon Green, week 18 starter for the
[57:34] Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns.
[57:34] Speaker 2: Book it. It's happening.
[57:36] Speaker 3: Okay, I'll write it down.
[57:37] Speaker 1: It's like, by the end, it's like, they've seen enough
[57:40] Speaker 1: of the other guys. Let's just roll with Talon Green
[57:43] Speaker 1: for the last couple of games.
[57:44] Speaker 2: Of the season.
[57:45] Speaker 3: I will write this down. Do you have a pen
[57:47] Speaker 3: I could borrow?
[57:49] Speaker 1: No, you've taken all my pens. You haven't, you know,
[57:53] Speaker 1: paid customs for them, and then you've lost them.
[57:57] Speaker 2: Final news.
[57:58] Speaker 1: Christian Kirk of the 49ers going to PUP list. Michael Williams,
[58:02] Speaker 1: their first round pick from a year ago. And Isaac
[58:04] Speaker 1: Garendo to injured reserve designated to return. And then they
[58:10] Speaker 1: did cut Dijon Love from their roster.
[58:14] Speaker 2: I thought he could make it.
[58:15] Speaker 1: If you haven't been following the story, he runs some
[58:20] Speaker 1: great routes for the ladies on the beach.
[58:24] Speaker 2: But yeah, didn't make the team.
[58:25] Speaker 4: It's that grapevine, you know, that really must have got
[58:29] Speaker 4: some ladies going.
[58:30] Speaker 3: You know, that just was, what a game changer.
[58:33] Speaker 1: My favorite thing about Dijon Love, who's had one of
[58:36] Speaker 1: the most underrated careers of anyone over the last handful
[58:39] Speaker 1: of years, is that he gives back to the community too.
[58:41] Speaker 1: He had a turkey giveaway last year. I don't know
[58:43] Speaker 1: if you saw that Instagram post, but he had a
[58:45] Speaker 1: turkey giveaway. So I hope that's not the end of
[58:48] Speaker 1: Dijon Love's career, as we hope all these guys who
[58:51] Speaker 1: got cut today have jobs. A few teams still haven't posted. rosters,
[58:54] Speaker 1: but we got to get out of here, Jordan. This
[58:56] Speaker 1: was a lot of fun.
[58:57] Speaker 2: We got to get ready for our next show.
[58:59] Speaker 3: Quarterback Island is back.
[59:01] Speaker 2: Quarterback Island is returning.
[59:03] Speaker 1: Not only that, it is the return of Colleen Wolfe
[59:07] Speaker 1: to the studio.
[59:08] Speaker 2: Let's go. Yay.
[59:10] Speaker 3: I can't wait to see her. Summer of Connie is over.
[59:13] Speaker 2: And let's be real.
[59:14] Speaker 1: We don't have Weisha on the show as often as
[59:17] Speaker 1: we would like anymore either. Big ESPN employee Weisha in
[59:21] Speaker 1: the mix too. So that'll be our show. On Monday,
[59:23] Speaker 1: let's hit the music. Let's get out of here.
[59:26] Speaker 2: Big week. We have QB Island.
[59:29] Speaker 1: We have our win totals where we draft the teams
[59:32] Speaker 1: basically predicting our record. And then Patrick Claibon returning to
[59:35] Speaker 1: the studio as well with Jordan. And that's where we
[59:38] Speaker 1: get her to actually make takes. Pick a Super Bowl winner.
[59:42] Speaker 1: Pick an MVP. All coming up during Predictions Week.
[59:45] Speaker 2: We'll see you then.

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