# Naming Some Dudes

An episode of [NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/680904259), 31 Jul 2026, 25 min.

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Gregg Rosenthal, Jourdan Rodrigue and Patrick Claybon name some dudes. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: I'm going to throw this out there, guys, Trunk candidate.
[0:05] Speaker 2: In general, Saint Louis Rams, I feel like are gonna
[0:07] Speaker 2: feel even older than they really are. Mark Bulger, Mark
[0:14] Speaker 2: Bulger like in terms of how good he was, to
[0:19] Speaker 2: how he's remembered to crime.
[0:21] Speaker 3: A lot of lost players from from that time even
[0:25] Speaker 3: on like some of the Super teams, Ricky Poll. People
[0:28] Speaker 3: don't think about Ricky Prol.
[0:30] Speaker 2: No, Ricky Prowl's I think remembered mostly for talking too
[0:34] Speaker 2: much that he was going to come back and beat
[0:35] Speaker 2: the Patriots.
[0:36] Speaker 4: Really, that's the NFL film that I'm wrong.
[0:39] Speaker 1: That's a certain point of it. That's the Patriots point
[0:42] Speaker 1: of I think of Ricky Prol the catch right against
[0:45] Speaker 1: the bucket.
[0:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's just editing, Greg, That's just me and editing.
[0:48] Speaker 3: You know, Bill Belichick was probably in there at the
[0:51] Speaker 3: time with NFL films.
[0:53] Speaker 4: Greg Zerline back in the day there.
[0:55] Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys, remember, this is a player I was
[0:58] Speaker 3: so fascinated by when I was in high school and
[1:03] Speaker 3: then like coming into my actual football watching in college,
[1:06] Speaker 3: John Smokey Brown. Yes, oh that fifteen season, Come on,
[1:12] Speaker 3: we'll smoke that brought Maybe I thought, maybe I'll be
[1:15] Speaker 3: a Cardinals fan, and then quickly it was beaten out
[1:17] Speaker 3: of me.
[1:17] Speaker 1: So in twenty fifteen, there were six or seven weeks
[1:21] Speaker 1: where you could have been convinced that Gary Barnage was
[1:23] Speaker 1: the future.
[1:24] Speaker 5: Oh Gary Barnage, the catch, the leg catch, I mean
[1:28] Speaker 5: he was incredible Cleveland Brown's touchdown.
[1:31] Speaker 1: And he only played one more year after that. We
[1:35] Speaker 1: could add so much more. Shout out to Gary Barnage.
[1:37] Speaker 4: Both very prominent around the NFL. Characters.
[1:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, and Wes loved him some, John Brown and uh yeah,
[1:48] Speaker 2: Gary Barnage a legend. D'Angelo Hall yep, says a player. Yeah,
[1:54] Speaker 2: I don't want to think about him as a now
[1:56] Speaker 2: like d Angel Hall as a player was a was
[1:58] Speaker 2: a thing. He to me, the he's like up and down,
[2:01] Speaker 2: like the ultimate like streaky cornerback.
[2:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, love d Halt un Like impossible to separate him
[2:09] Speaker 1: from the I fear God Homie training camp moment, like
[2:13] Speaker 1: one of the premier training camp moments in history with
[2:16] Speaker 1: and with uh, you know, DeAndre Hopkins maybe trying to
[2:19] Speaker 1: get on the coaching circuit. Like maybe we'll probably hear
[2:23] Speaker 1: I fear got Homie a few more times.
[2:26] Speaker 3: I like thinking about other lost Saint Louis Rams too,
[2:30] Speaker 3: Austin Davis, Davis deep pull for the wrong reasons. What
[2:36] Speaker 3: was it eight games but he tied for the lead
[2:39] Speaker 3: and pick.
[2:39] Speaker 2: Sixes that year on a short list of like the
[2:42] Speaker 2: worst starting quarterback stats. But I'm sure, I'm sure it
[2:45] Speaker 2: was a nice man. How about at a walle agunla.
[2:52] Speaker 4: Oh gun.
[2:54] Speaker 1: There's there's so many like when when you go through
[2:58] Speaker 1: and it's just like the names themselves when this happens,
[3:06] Speaker 1: like Chris Fu Matu malfalla mm hmmmm hm. It's just
[3:10] Speaker 1: like something premiere about a name and a moment that
[3:15] Speaker 1: that stand out for a lot of guys.
[3:19] Speaker 2: A lot of those bears for some reason stand out
[3:21] Speaker 2: to me, like Lance Briggs is maybe that's a good Yeah?
[3:25] Speaker 1: Good?
[3:26] Speaker 4: Are you allowed to say good ones and just naming guys?
[3:28] Speaker 5: Oh?
[3:28] Speaker 6: I think like I think you can name good guys.
[3:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, you can name good guys, keep the process going.
[3:33] Speaker 1: But it doesn't it doesn't give that spark that like
[3:37] Speaker 1: an Aurelius Ben does. Oh.
[3:42] Speaker 3: I think I remember thinking, you know, when I first
[3:45] Speaker 3: started being a fan of football, and you know, I
[3:47] Speaker 3: was like, what thirteen years old, and you you try
[3:49] Speaker 3: to look and see what you want the best last name.
[3:53] Speaker 6: You don't really care.
[3:53] Speaker 3: When you're a kid, like what the what the team is,
[3:56] Speaker 3: especially when you grow up being you know, in a
[3:58] Speaker 3: cardinal's household as I did, You really don't care about
[4:01] Speaker 3: the team. Uh Ben Ben would have been a good one. Yeah.
[4:06] Speaker 3: Ed Dixon recently okay, mind like just like really always
[4:13] Speaker 3: just did his job kind of guy.
[4:15] Speaker 1: You know, the Ed Dixon, the tight end.
[4:18] Speaker 6: The tight end. Well, you might have different memories of
[4:22] Speaker 6: Ed Dixon than I do.
[4:23] Speaker 1: Well, it's because so many like so many things around
[4:26] Speaker 1: that team, and you're and you're like, what are the
[4:29] Speaker 1: primary options here? And it's Ed Dixon, some Ted.
[4:34] Speaker 6: Ginn Yeah, and you think kyl Clay. It's like, uh,
[4:38] Speaker 6: can I interest you in some Kalen? Always little von
[4:41] Speaker 6: Seymour action.
[4:42] Speaker 1: Not sure how much how much there was around.
[4:46] Speaker 6: One time.
[4:46] Speaker 3: One time I was in the publics in South End
[4:49] Speaker 3: and I ran into Keevan Seymour. Poor guy in the summer.
[4:52] Speaker 3: He was recovering from double shoulder surgery and his wife
[4:55] Speaker 3: had just given birth, and so he was getting the
[4:57] Speaker 3: groceries instead of you know, and being a hell full partner,
[5:01] Speaker 3: and he was pulling a little cart and he couldn't
[5:03] Speaker 3: reach up to the top to the top of the
[5:06] Speaker 3: aisle with the shelves in the aisle. And I saw
[5:09] Speaker 3: him and I was like, hey, can I He was
[5:12] Speaker 3: in a double sling, you know, And I was like,
[5:14] Speaker 3: what a guy.
[5:15] Speaker 2: Just trying to help out the fam. Did he feel
[5:17] Speaker 2: emasculated in that moment?
[5:19] Speaker 6: No, We bonded over it. Yeah, Always rooting for that guy.
[5:22] Speaker 2: There's something about tight ends that, just like bow scafe.
[5:27] Speaker 4: A lot of it is about the name.
[5:28] Speaker 6: Likes a really good tight end, name Jermaine Wiggins.
[5:32] Speaker 2: It's an old Super Bowl champion for the Patriots. I
[5:34] Speaker 2: don't want to lean too hard on that, but just
[5:36] Speaker 2: just give me, like a four hundred and thirty yard
[5:38] Speaker 2: as your peak career year tight end, and I'm like,
[5:43] Speaker 2: feeling good.
[5:44] Speaker 1: You're mentioning mid mid four hundreds, high four hundreds. It's
[5:48] Speaker 1: impossible for me. And I know I say his name
[5:50] Speaker 1: all the time because I think about this moment in
[5:52] Speaker 1: history in two thousand and four, But Billy Volock needs
[5:55] Speaker 1: to be mentioned in every single one of these discussions.
[5:58] Speaker 1: In two weeks, he had none hundred and twenty passing yards,
[6:02] Speaker 1: eight touchdowns, and the Titans were zero and two, but
[6:05] Speaker 1: I will never forget it. He only started two more
[6:07] Speaker 1: games in his career after that. Shout out to Billy.
[6:09] Speaker 2: Bolick Andrew Bennett who did it along with him, And
[6:13] Speaker 2: I've probably even said it on NFL Daily, but those
[6:16] Speaker 2: two men indirectly, almost directly responsible for my children's lives
[6:22] Speaker 2: because my old friend and boss Rick Wolf staked us
[6:28] Speaker 2: to a high stakes fantasy league.
[6:30] Speaker 4: This was allowed, you know, because I wasn't working for
[6:32] Speaker 4: the NFL.
[6:33] Speaker 2: Shield protected everybody and my co owner and I Rick Cordella,
[6:37] Speaker 2: who now runs all of NBC Universal Sports, which is insane.
[6:43] Speaker 2: We hit that lick, you know on uh Billy Bollock,
[6:47] Speaker 2: Drew Bennett.
[6:48] Speaker 4: We made thousands.
[6:49] Speaker 2: I spent that money and ellis that's how, Yeah, I
[6:52] Speaker 2: spend that money to go visit my best friend Dave Bennett,
[6:56] Speaker 2: who I just climbed Mount Fuji with, who was living
[6:58] Speaker 2: in Japan at the time and working in one of
[6:59] Speaker 2: his best friends in the world in his friend group,
[7:04] Speaker 2: turned out to be my future wife.
[7:06] Speaker 4: But if Billy Volck and Drew Bennett.
[7:08] Speaker 1: Didn't didn't go on that run, and that's why that itch. Yeah,
[7:13] Speaker 1: you know, Greg works hard to not screw the shield
[7:15] Speaker 1: is safe.
[7:16] Speaker 4: Everybody was Courtland Finnigan on those teams.
[7:19] Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I was just thinking if the years
[7:22] Speaker 2: matched up, Courtland Finigan is is.
[7:24] Speaker 3: It's a It's one of the coolest NFL names ever
[7:26] Speaker 3: in my opinion, and a great and.
[7:29] Speaker 2: A great player who is mostly remembered for getting his
[7:31] Speaker 2: ass beat, but a great player at his peak. He
[7:34] Speaker 2: was sort of Richard Sherman before Richard Sherman and just
[7:37] Speaker 2: not on as good a team.
[7:38] Speaker 1: A d one instigator.
[7:41] Speaker 4: He was like a mix between Richard Sherman and Johnson
[7:43] Speaker 4: Gardner Johnson.
[7:44] Speaker 3: Sorry, cool names always spark for me. Fozzy Whittaker m
[7:50] Speaker 3: one of the all time one of the micro fullbacks.
[7:53] Speaker 4: I guess I would say Beanie Wells. That's a good name, yep.
[7:57] Speaker 6: But you know what could have been.
[8:00] Speaker 1: Lega donn A. Like any time a guy's running fast,
[8:04] Speaker 1: has long legs, his name is Lega Doo.
[8:06] Speaker 2: It's like, all right, I always said he'd be bad.
[8:08] Speaker 2: Hartley Dykes M. It was a first round pick, right.
[8:12] Speaker 4: I don't know why.
[8:12] Speaker 2: I just remember the upper deck card from that year,
[8:14] Speaker 2: so I thought he was gonna be good.
[8:17] Speaker 1: We were just talking about that four Titans team and
[8:19] Speaker 1: fun names and tight ends. Ben Troup.
[8:22] Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, that's I mean, come on, as in
[8:26] Speaker 6: support the you don't get, You don't get any more
[8:30] Speaker 6: tight end than that, Ben.
[8:31] Speaker 4: Troop, Ben Coates.
[8:32] Speaker 2: Ben Troup was kind of the original John hu Smith too,
[8:35] Speaker 2: if it just has a player like look at looks
[8:38] Speaker 2: good going off of bus. I don't know why we're
[8:39] Speaker 2: going so hard Titans, but Kyle Vandenbosch feels like he
[8:43] Speaker 2: belonged to the show.
[8:45] Speaker 4: Just what a juicy name right there? Juicy player too.
[8:50] Speaker 1: In the in the name genre, you run across some
[8:52] Speaker 1: repeats with the same franchise. What about uh Falcons defensive
[8:56] Speaker 1: end Jamal Anderson?
[8:58] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think it was one. Was there a
[9:02] Speaker 2: guy with double a's at the end of the name though, Yeah, yeah,
[9:05] Speaker 2: two was confusing two.
[9:06] Speaker 1: A's for the not Jamal Anderson that we all familiarized with.
[9:10] Speaker 3: Well, yeah, how about the other Kurt Warner. I mean,
[9:13] Speaker 3: come on, I mean listen, I say the other Kurt Warner.
[9:17] Speaker 3: But depending on your perspective, Kurt with a C, the
[9:19] Speaker 3: Kurt Warner like that is the original Kurt Warner. You know,
[9:23] Speaker 3: depending on your perspective on all of how.
[9:25] Speaker 2: About the poor I think he was a jet center.
[9:27] Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson bound around the lake the last couple of years.
[9:30] Speaker 1: There was a corner of Lamar Jackson bo Wolf.
[9:33] Speaker 2: Our friend was saying, he really wants to ask Jalen
[9:37] Speaker 2: Hurts what it's like to be on the same team
[9:40] Speaker 2: with Michael Jordan at training camp this year, to see
[9:44] Speaker 2: if he can get Jalen Hurts to like half smile.
[9:47] Speaker 6: See if he says I took it personal.
[9:51] Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts notably made a point to not call Lebron
[9:55] Speaker 2: James the greatest basketball player ever when asked about him.
[9:58] Speaker 4: It is prest guns because we.
[10:00] Speaker 2: Jordan Brim Yeah, he's that guy.
[10:04] Speaker 3: You guys remember, well, how could you forget Vontae Perfect?
[10:08] Speaker 3: M Arizona State Sun Devil. Let me tell you when
[10:11] Speaker 3: you're a kid growing up in the valley that Sun
[10:15] Speaker 3: Devil's team is larger than life. A lot of those
[10:17] Speaker 3: famous you know from the You know, Jake Plumber obviously
[10:20] Speaker 3: one of my favorites of all time, Pat Tillman, Jake Plumber,
[10:23] Speaker 3: Jake Plummer, good for him man living his best mushroom life.
[10:27] Speaker 2: Now you know you're a special kind of NFL character
[10:32] Speaker 2: When you make Adam Pacman Jones kind of like the
[10:36] Speaker 2: secondary figure of who's getting too much headlines and kick
[10:40] Speaker 2: that of games on that Bengals team.
[10:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, the answer to how could you forget? Is Vonte's
[10:47] Speaker 1: perfect for a lot of m m because he's he's
[10:50] Speaker 1: made people.
[10:50] Speaker 4: I don't know why.
[10:51] Speaker 2: But like the first name that came to my mind,
[10:53] Speaker 2: I don't know why, wait waited so long. Here was
[10:56] Speaker 2: Bernardrick McKenney. It's an old Texans linebacker. Just that's just
[11:02] Speaker 2: a that's just an NFL named Bernardic McKenney.
[11:05] Speaker 3: My mom and I were guys out my training camp
[11:08] Speaker 3: schedule coming up, and I'm going to go see the Texans.
[11:10] Speaker 3: At some point she was writing it down and then
[11:13] Speaker 3: reciting it back to me, and she goes, okay, and
[11:14] Speaker 3: then you're going to go see the Titans. And I go, no, Mom,
[11:17] Speaker 3: the Texans And she was quiet, and I go, I
[11:20] Speaker 3: could see where you're coming from.
[11:21] Speaker 6: Yeah, you know her era, her era.
[11:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, some players based on name alone feels like they
[11:28] Speaker 1: had no choice with their position. Like Jasper Brinkley was
[11:32] Speaker 1: destined to be a linebacker.
[11:34] Speaker 4: That's a good call.
[11:35] Speaker 2: Now, I want to come up with people that are
[11:36] Speaker 2: that category. Alja Crumpler had to be a tight end.
[11:42] Speaker 2: Michael the Berner Turner probably had to be a running back.
[11:45] Speaker 2: I guess you could have you could have been you
[11:48] Speaker 2: could have been a receiver, but then you might have
[11:49] Speaker 2: been confused with Michael the beer Man Lewis.
[11:53] Speaker 3: Oh and and honestly, how could you not be anything
[11:57] Speaker 3: but one of the largest defensive linemen we've ever were seeing.
[12:00] Speaker 6: If your name is not Vince Wilfork, Yeah, you know.
[12:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, parlayed into a tremendous barbecue post career.
[12:08] Speaker 3: And also, yes, I just saw an Instagram video of
[12:11] Speaker 3: him salmon fishing. He said it was the first time
[12:14] Speaker 3: he's ever done a salmon run.
[12:15] Speaker 2: Before Patrick's reaction to me saying Michael the beer Man
[12:19] Speaker 2: Lewis was all I wanted out of this exercise.
[12:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, because it's it's such a great pull. And
[12:24] Speaker 1: and one of like, like, why why a character? Why
[12:27] Speaker 1: don't we have a beer Man movie anywhere?
[12:28] Speaker 4: Beer Man? Yeah?
[12:31] Speaker 2: How about old Kickers? Oh, Olindo mare.
[12:37] Speaker 4: That one?
[12:37] Speaker 2: I always always like that one. Rob baronas why it's
[12:41] Speaker 2: all Titans today?
[12:44] Speaker 6: I have a Stephen Goskowski.
[12:46] Speaker 4: Yeah, he was good like that. I was always.
[12:51] Speaker 1: I think old kickers that Mike vander Jet where again
[12:54] Speaker 1: it's another player calling him out. It was like the
[12:57] Speaker 1: premiere moment of the of the league is when Peyton
[13:00] Speaker 1: said their idiot kicker got liquored up in Randon's mouth.
[13:03] Speaker 6: It's like, what about all time?
[13:05] Speaker 2: That's like, wow, it's heat Neil Rackers. If we're sticking
[13:08] Speaker 2: with old car oh little Josh Scoby.
[13:11] Speaker 3: Okay, Rackers is such a cool kicker name though, Like
[13:14] Speaker 3: I mean, if.
[13:14] Speaker 2: It how about Tank Johnson for a name and we're
[13:19] Speaker 2: off kickers here, but just Tank Johnson.
[13:21] Speaker 6: One more kicker.
[13:22] Speaker 4: You're a nose tackle in You're Tank Johnson.
[13:24] Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, getting the way staying the way, uh tanakowskis
[13:28] Speaker 3: is when whenever you say kickers and then you talk
[13:31] Speaker 3: about clips anything slow mo sea bass moving in slow
[13:34] Speaker 3: mo toward the tee.
[13:35] Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I want to go tee. Well, Tim
[13:40] Speaker 1: rote the La tete guy who was getting buckets didn't
[13:46] Speaker 1: necessarily work out.
[13:46] Speaker 2: That was at a point in time where it was
[13:48] Speaker 2: like is every forty nine ers quarterback always going to
[13:51] Speaker 2: be good? Like he was the one who kind of
[13:53] Speaker 2: stretched it to the end point. Te Well, what about
[13:56] Speaker 2: uh te Martin. He's now a coach.
[14:00] Speaker 4: T Martin as a player more more of a college guy.
[14:02] Speaker 3: Modern throwback Tory Smith go Maal King draw that drew
[14:06] Speaker 3: the p I like nobody else could and probably still can't.
[14:10] Speaker 1: Not a receiver. But there's Dj Moore of the Chicago Bears,
[14:15] Speaker 1: the defensive.
[14:15] Speaker 4: Back, so they still I don't remember him, Dj.
[14:21] Speaker 6: Not even one that I know.
[14:22] Speaker 4: I don't know that one.
[14:24] Speaker 2: How about both Tatupu's, Lofa and Mossy mostly is the
[14:29] Speaker 2: one that gets uh mostly was a good player. This
[14:32] Speaker 2: is you know, I know you were worried that we're
[14:34] Speaker 2: going to bring up players before your time, and.
[14:36] Speaker 6: That's that's why I encourage it.
[14:37] Speaker 4: Patrick's time, I encourage it.
[14:39] Speaker 2: Mostly Totupa was getting it done in the Patriots throwbacks
[14:42] Speaker 2: before they were throwbacks, and then Lofa Tatupa kind of
[14:47] Speaker 2: there's not a lot of players like that anymore. They've
[14:50] Speaker 2: kind of taken them out of the game. Bernardic McKenny
[14:54] Speaker 2: was one of those players, just like a walking.
[14:58] Speaker 4: Concussion.
[14:59] Speaker 2: Either he got one or he gave one to someone
[15:01] Speaker 2: not to get dark, but it was true.
[15:03] Speaker 1: Ruben Foster, Yeah, yeah, how.
[15:06] Speaker 2: About Ruben Drones. I just like going off the names
[15:11] Speaker 2: Ruben Drones.
[15:13] Speaker 1: Ruben Drones makes to think of a got on My
[15:14] Speaker 1: List orlandis Gary.
[15:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, just like Broncos running backs is fun.
[15:20] Speaker 4: CJ. Anderson he had Super Bowl MVP?
[15:23] Speaker 1: Did they all have number twenty two?
[15:24] Speaker 6: Full touchdown score?
[15:26] Speaker 3: C J.
[15:26] Speaker 6: Anderson?
[15:27] Speaker 4: Was he MVP?
[15:28] Speaker 3: Now?
[15:28] Speaker 4: Von Miller West?
[15:29] Speaker 2: I remember thinking he could have been m V p
[15:31] Speaker 2: Ronnie Hillman also on that team.
[15:33] Speaker 3: I believe my favorite thing is when like a really
[15:36] Speaker 3: serious and really solid running back has like a little
[15:40] Speaker 3: kid's first name, like Timmy Smithber Timmy Smith is a
[15:44] Speaker 3: Washington running back, Like two touchdowns in that Super Bowl
[15:48] Speaker 3: one hit.
[15:48] Speaker 4: Wonder how about Tatum Bell?
[15:52] Speaker 2: I was all over Tatum Bell in like the second
[15:53] Speaker 2: round of a fantasy draft.
[15:55] Speaker 4: Broncos running backs HM, Glenn Milburn. He looked like he
[16:07] Speaker 4: had a good one. He did he did?
[16:10] Speaker 3: You guys remember Trey Turner. Can't forget Trey Turner, like good,
[16:14] Speaker 3: good career with the Panthers, played well with the Chargers.
[16:17] Speaker 3: Certain point, I'm trying to remember what he what he was,
[16:19] Speaker 3: what he looked like at the Chargers. That was like
[16:21] Speaker 3: the COVID season. Strong man, great style. One time he
[16:25] Speaker 3: complimented my shoes in the locker room and it was
[16:27] Speaker 3: like the best day of my life.
[16:30] Speaker 4: You've got a lot of Panthers.
[16:32] Speaker 3: Formative memories, man, it's a good one. Formative memories. I'm
[16:35] Speaker 3: sure I could uh convince you to do a.
[16:38] Speaker 2: Little I know a lot of it about my favorite players,
[16:41] Speaker 2: like Fred.
[16:41] Speaker 3: Jackson, Yeah, Captain Munterlin, Fred Jackson.
[16:45] Speaker 2: I know Bill's fans still remember fondly, but I just
[16:48] Speaker 2: I always Fred Jackson was my guy.
[16:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, Marlon Jackson, I just I haven't had another Marlin Merlin.
[17:00] Speaker 1: Oh in Marlins. Yeah, but not a lot of like
[17:02] Speaker 1: fish Marlins. Shout out to Marlin Jackson.
[17:05] Speaker 2: How about the Quel Jackson. I mean, he was just
[17:07] Speaker 2: in the NFL, but he just feels like a guy
[17:09] Speaker 2: that deserves to be again.
[17:10] Speaker 1: Another like, who's like position.
[17:13] Speaker 3: Birth, Who's like a guy that when you guys, think
[17:15] Speaker 3: about like your childhood or like some flashes of memories
[17:18] Speaker 3: when you were watching football. I didn't watch football a
[17:20] Speaker 3: ton when I was a little kid, but I remember,
[17:23] Speaker 3: you know, as I was kind of growing a little
[17:24] Speaker 3: bit older, I remember two names, one good, one bad.
[17:28] Speaker 3: Bad was Levi Brown and I was in my friend's
[17:31] Speaker 3: car one time and her dad was driving. We were
[17:33] Speaker 3: going to like a sport like we played, like youth
[17:35] Speaker 3: soccer or something, and they were talking on sports radio
[17:39] Speaker 3: about Levi Brown, and the guy in the dad said
[17:43] Speaker 3: human turnstile and then turned.
[17:45] Speaker 6: The radio off. Yang, I'll never forget it.
[17:48] Speaker 3: And then the good one I remember always because Ron
[17:50] Speaker 3: Wolfley would always yell Carlos Stansby, and I just loved
[17:53] Speaker 3: hearing him yell Carlos Stansby as it just really enamored me.
[17:57] Speaker 1: Carlos Stansby, who When I got into a playoff game
[18:00] Speaker 1: in high school basketball my freshman year, I went to
[18:05] Speaker 1: block out a person who subsumed me, got the rebound
[18:11] Speaker 1: and went back up and dunked it. It was Carlos Stansby
[18:13] Speaker 1: that shout out to Woodlawn High School.
[18:15] Speaker 4: I'm so glad you brought that up.
[18:18] Speaker 2: Thank you, Jdan, You've really earned your paycheck today. Hugh Millan,
[18:26] Speaker 2: you're talking about like teams that you associate with childhood.
[18:29] Speaker 2: I for some reason loved like there was a Dick
[18:31] Speaker 2: McPherson Patriots. The team was in a dark place where
[18:34] Speaker 2: six wins and winning a few games at the end
[18:36] Speaker 2: of the season felt like the peak of all time.
[18:38] Speaker 4: And like Hugh Millan, I think they had.
[18:41] Speaker 2: Two Rookie of the Year running backs on that team,
[18:43] Speaker 2: Leonard Russell and John Stevens.
[18:46] Speaker 4: Marv Cook was on.
[18:48] Speaker 2: Tech Mobile as like the tight end Ben Coates who
[18:52] Speaker 2: we already mentioned on that team m erreen Friar before
[18:57] Speaker 2: things went wrong.
[18:59] Speaker 1: Were mentioning Bills players and then like formative players. For
[19:02] Speaker 1: some reason, even though he's not that old. Josh Reed
[19:08] Speaker 1: the running back that converted to wide receiver, and it
[19:12] Speaker 1: was like, for some reason, that was just so cool
[19:14] Speaker 1: to me. It's like, oh, this guy gets the ball,
[19:17] Speaker 1: mixed plays in space.
[19:22] Speaker 2: What was his name? The running back on that team,
[19:24] Speaker 2: the Vikings Ontario artisty now Ontario Hardest, Ontario Hardesty. I'm
[19:30] Speaker 2: mixing things up. He was a brown. How about the
[19:32] Speaker 2: combination of Cleo Lemon and Greg Camerrio on the Miami
[19:37] Speaker 2: Dolphins winning that first game for Cam Cameron. Just just
[19:46] Speaker 2: YouTube Cleo Lemon, Greg Camerrio, Cam Cameron and you will
[19:50] Speaker 2: see a celebration that exceeds many Super Bowl winning championship moments,
[19:56] Speaker 2: not even joking.
[19:57] Speaker 6: I like those. I like going down.
[19:59] Speaker 3: Like the YouTube rabbit hole on like Celebrate like Joe
[20:01] Speaker 3: Horn he was the one that put pulled the phone
[20:03] Speaker 3: out of the end it right. I love that Joe
[20:06] Speaker 3: Webb was the first one to shoot the webs. You
[20:09] Speaker 3: know in my in my, in my recollection. You know,
[20:11] Speaker 3: I'm you know, a lot younger than you guys in
[20:14] Speaker 3: my recollection just keeps punning this out.
[20:16] Speaker 6: Joe Webb, do it all, Patrick happening between he did.
[20:21] Speaker 3: Joe Webb played for a few different teams with the Panthers,
[20:23] Speaker 3: and the audacity to list him as a receiver. Go
[20:25] Speaker 3: to Pro Football Reference and look.
[20:29] Speaker 5: Guys, what about Brian Mormon's cheerie.
[20:34] Speaker 1: We have we have not appreciated enough punters.
[20:36] Speaker 5: He was the only Bills Pro bowler for so long
[20:39] Speaker 5: I would watch the Pro Bowl, It's like, who's the Bills?
[20:41] Speaker 5: Oh the punter forever on the highlight Rolls Wrecked by
[20:46] Speaker 5: Sean Taylor.
[20:46] Speaker 4: Was one of the most famous punter moments of all time.
[20:52] Speaker 4: Is him getting there meaninglessness?
[20:55] Speaker 5: Poss right back up and like looks like he's getting
[20:57] Speaker 5: his face But he said he went to congratulate him
[20:59] Speaker 5: on a hit. A Brian Mormon jersey, A punter jersey
[21:02] Speaker 5: goes to show the Times how.
[21:04] Speaker 4: You know, Jeff Fiegels, I.
[21:06] Speaker 6: Was gonna say, should we name more punters?
[21:08] Speaker 4: I struggle with it off the top of my head.
[21:10] Speaker 4: I don't want to cheat.
[21:11] Speaker 3: I'm cheating is one. Oh my god, I can't believe
[21:14] Speaker 3: I forgot Andy Lee, Andy Lee. Yeah, Marquette King.
[21:21] Speaker 2: You saying Joe Joe Horn reminds me of some old
[21:26] Speaker 2: favorite Saints Chris Ivory, Will Smith r I p mm
[21:33] Speaker 2: hmmmmm hmm, great player, Will Smith. How about I don't know,
[21:38] Speaker 2: I'm just thinking of alf Morris. Alfred Morris on those
[21:43] Speaker 2: Washington teams had a moment. There's something about like a
[21:47] Speaker 2: running back that just has a moment for yeah.
[21:49] Speaker 1: And a great celebration at the baseball celebration. You talking
[21:53] Speaker 1: old Saints made me think of Aaron Brooks. Who's so
[21:55] Speaker 1: many guys favorite players.
[22:00] Speaker 3: I think you thinking about running backs that have moments.
[22:02] Speaker 3: And then the one that I remember was like lore
[22:05] Speaker 3: when we started talking about like the Madden curse. I
[22:08] Speaker 3: mean Peyton Hillis, Yeah, famously called a shot saying you
[22:11] Speaker 3: didn't believe in the curse and then.
[22:13] Speaker 2: Whoops, although like he hadn't done that much before that either,
[22:17] Speaker 2: and they kind of overworked.
[22:18] Speaker 6: It got the player vote, though, got the player vote.
[22:22] Speaker 2: Did Larry Johnson ever make a Madden cover? Because Larry
[22:25] Speaker 2: Johnson has to be high on the list of excellence
[22:30] Speaker 2: to like not remembered ratio, there's no Larry Johnson talk.
[22:36] Speaker 4: Larry Johnson was running.
[22:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, he was for like a while with a high
[22:40] Speaker 1: volume of cures.
[22:41] Speaker 4: And Priest Tome. I feel like Prisce Solames is remembered.
[22:44] Speaker 2: Jamal Charles remembered, remembered Larry Johnson at his peak.
[22:48] Speaker 4: Maybe do you.
[22:49] Speaker 6: Guys want to hear my Jamal Charles story?
[22:51] Speaker 1: Sure? Yes.
[22:52] Speaker 3: So I interned for ESPN Sports Science when I was
[22:56] Speaker 3: in my senior year of college, and one of the
[22:59] Speaker 3: segment ideas that never came to fruition was could we
[23:04] Speaker 3: jump rope with Jamal Charles to test foot speed and
[23:08] Speaker 3: foot quickness instead of doing ladder drills? Could we make
[23:10] Speaker 3: it more TV? Could we could we do more fun?
[23:13] Speaker 3: And I was a very very very very good jump
[23:17] Speaker 3: roper as a kid and as a young teenager and
[23:23] Speaker 3: like kind of internationally as such, And then ended up
[23:28] Speaker 3: finding a crew to come in and we tried to
[23:30] Speaker 3: test foot speed that way. It didn't work. Out, but
[23:33] Speaker 3: he loved, he had a blast. He was super nice.
[23:36] Speaker 1: Sneaky Jordan Lord drop on international jump rope.
[23:38] Speaker 2: Remember some guys, sneaky, sneaky Hall of Fame candidacy.
[23:43] Speaker 4: I might try to push, you know, Jamal Charles.
[23:45] Speaker 3: Yes, I was a semi pro jump roper, junior olympian.
[23:51] Speaker 6: Now I can't do m.
[23:54] Speaker 4: You can't jump rope well, very.
[23:57] Speaker 6: On athletic now can run into straight line speaking to.
[24:02] Speaker 4: You know, sneaky Hall of Fame Cannadacy is Matt Forte.
[24:05] Speaker 6: We're talking running back, Oh yeah, I mean, and.
[24:08] Speaker 2: If we're talking two lane backs, it's Milwelde Moore all day.
[24:11] Speaker 1: Yeah, Melweldy in there, JP Lossman, Lamont, Jordan Stevenson, Sylvester
[24:23] Speaker 1: Larry Brown.
[24:23] Speaker 6: Guys, first corner to ever win Super Bowl, MVP.
[24:27] Speaker 1: Guy Whimper had Okay, Whimper catches as a tackle.
[24:32] Speaker 4: It's like Browning Nagel.
[24:34] Speaker 2: You know you're going to be a Jets quarterback if
[24:36] Speaker 2: you're named Brownie Nagel

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