# Dexter Lawrence Trade Stunner, 11 Things We Want to See on Draft Day and AJ Brown on Deck?

An episode of [NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/680904259), 20 Apr 2026, 1 h 08 min.

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Gregg Rosenthal and Jourdan Rodrigue do a deep dive on the trade that sent Dexter Lawrence from the Giants to the Bengals where they discuss what went into the trade and the ripple effect it will have on both teams and the NFL as a whole. Gregg and Jourdan also react to Trent Williams getting a contract extension from the 49ers, Will Anderson getting a contract extension from the Texans, and the uncertainty around Jacoby Brissett and the Cardinals QB position. Plus, Gregg and Jourdan give you 11 things they want to see on Draft weekend, including trades, Fernando Mendoza's moment, the future of perennial powers, A.J. Brown's future and more! NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:04] Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are relieved, thrilled, buoyant
[0:12] Speaker 1: that it's finally Draft week. I'm Greg Rosental here in
[0:15] Speaker 1: the Chris Wesley podcast studio, not only excited that we're
[0:18] Speaker 1: just three days away.
[0:18] Speaker 2: From the NFL Draft, but that we've got a lot
[0:21] Speaker 2: to talk about today. Jordan, Rod Graig, are you ready?
[0:24] Speaker 3: I'm so ready, Greg, I'm so freaking fired up. The
[0:27] Speaker 3: week along anticipated week is finally here. We're going live
[0:30] Speaker 3: night one. You should plug that.
[0:32] Speaker 2: That's good, good plug.
[0:33] Speaker 1: Well, we'll have like a juicier plug later in the show,
[0:36] Speaker 1: but I like getting in and nice and early live. Yes,
[0:39] Speaker 1: after round one ends, Jordan and I will be on
[0:44] Speaker 1: on NFL's YouTube and our YouTube as well, So look
[0:47] Speaker 1: forward to that. Let's get right into it because there's
[0:49] Speaker 1: a lot of news and in this show, we're going
[0:51] Speaker 1: to talk about the Dexter Lawrence trade, We're going to
[0:53] Speaker 1: talk about the AJ Brown, whatever the heck's going on
[0:56] Speaker 1: as part of our segment, which is ten things we're
[1:00] Speaker 1: looking forward to that we want to see on Draft weekend.
[1:03] Speaker 1: But yeah, the NFL news world was shook up. There's
[1:06] Speaker 1: a lot of things going on when the draft getting closer,
[1:09] Speaker 1: but nothing as big as the Dexter Lawrence.
[1:11] Speaker 2: Deal to the Bengals.
[1:13] Speaker 1: I love how these things happen, and I want to
[1:16] Speaker 1: break this down a few different ways. Let's stay organized,
[1:19] Speaker 1: so we're going to talk kind of the trade mechanics
[1:21] Speaker 1: of it all first. Then we'll get into probably what's
[1:24] Speaker 1: the most important thing, which is the draft angle for
[1:26] Speaker 1: both the Bengals and the Giants, and then we'll kind
[1:29] Speaker 1: of talk like league wide of it all. But it's
[1:31] Speaker 1: interesting how it went down, Jordan. You get a report
[1:35] Speaker 1: that the Browns are the team offering the best pick
[1:38] Speaker 1: potentially to the Giants, and then about eighteen hours later
[1:43] Speaker 1: it's their division rival, the Bengals, who go way over
[1:47] Speaker 1: the top give up the tenth overall pick, way better
[1:51] Speaker 1: than I was expecting. I was dead wrong on this
[1:53] Speaker 1: podcast guessing what he would be able to get, because
[1:57] Speaker 1: I thought he would require a massive new contract along
[2:02] Speaker 1: with this deal and he's coming off poor play. We
[2:04] Speaker 1: can get into that only part of that is true.
[2:07] Speaker 1: He did not require much of a contract adjustment at
[2:11] Speaker 1: all to me, And so let's start there. What do
[2:14] Speaker 1: you think of how this actually went down between the
[2:18] Speaker 1: Giants and the Bengals making a really stunning one of
[2:22] Speaker 1: the more stunning trades I've seen in a long time.
[2:25] Speaker 3: Well, especially for the Bengals, Greg because it's so not
[2:28] Speaker 3: in their character or recent history to do something like this.
[2:32] Speaker 3: I think that you know, there was a note the
[2:35] Speaker 3: last time they made a trade like this of this caliber,
[2:38] Speaker 3: with this level of pick, it was like nineteen eighty
[2:41] Speaker 3: nine or something like that, before I was born.
[2:43] Speaker 4: Greg Well.
[2:44] Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell has a great piece about looking at this
[2:48] Speaker 1: trade from all sides, and we'll kind of get into
[2:50] Speaker 1: the larger league implications of like what's happening here.
[2:54] Speaker 2: There's only been two trades in the history of.
[2:56] Speaker 1: The NFL for non quarterbacks for a top ten pick,
[2:58] Speaker 1: so it's pretty precedented in general. It's a he's a
[3:02] Speaker 1: twenty eight year old. I'm going to be turning twenty
[3:04] Speaker 1: nine this season. There was a lot of reporting out
[3:08] Speaker 1: there about how like his age. Did you see the
[3:11] Speaker 1: reporting on that The New York Post had about how
[3:13] Speaker 1: the agent, Like, what was your takeaway from all that?
[3:16] Speaker 1: And the money part of it, which is that the
[3:19] Speaker 1: contract only added about five million dollars for this year,
[3:21] Speaker 1: which is not nothing, it's it is five million dollars
[3:23] Speaker 1: about eight million dollars over the next two but the
[3:26] Speaker 1: Bengals also were allowed to add one year to the contract,
[3:29] Speaker 1: which actually I think is helpful to them for twenty
[3:32] Speaker 1: eight million dollars, And so the reporting that he wanted
[3:37] Speaker 1: so much more money seems to fall a little flat
[3:39] Speaker 1: in terms of what happened.
[3:40] Speaker 3: This to me is what it has looked like to
[3:43] Speaker 3: me the entire time, which a player wanting out of
[3:45] Speaker 3: a situation that no longer serves him in the way
[3:47] Speaker 3: that he would like to participate in this in the
[3:51] Speaker 3: Giants program. And for me, the reporting by the New
[3:54] Speaker 3: York Post was really telling to me because it involved
[3:56] Speaker 3: Jol Siegel, his agent, who's a really experienced, like long
[3:59] Speaker 3: time one of the sort of superagent guys we always hear.
[4:03] Speaker 3: As you know, he is League source, right if you
[4:06] Speaker 3: see League Source.
[4:07] Speaker 1: He's also been one of the super agents for what
[4:09] Speaker 1: three decades A.
[4:10] Speaker 5: Long time, yeah, a long time.
[4:11] Speaker 3: And so the fact that this reporting stated that he
[4:16] Speaker 3: did not want to work with Joe Shane, the GM
[4:18] Speaker 3: of the Giants right now, and also that Dexter Lawrence,
[4:24] Speaker 3: according to this report, was not allowed to speak to
[4:28] Speaker 3: or was not going to speak to Joe Shane either
[4:31] Speaker 3: or the team or Barbas.
[4:33] Speaker 1: Specifically, or John Harbaugh. Harbaugh wanted to get on the
[4:35] Speaker 1: phone with them.
[4:36] Speaker 4: Throughout this process.
[4:38] Speaker 3: To me, that tells me that the agent is doing
[4:42] Speaker 3: a his job, which is to sort of take some
[4:44] Speaker 3: of the burden off the player to deal directly with people.
[4:48] Speaker 3: And b that Dexter Lawrence just wanted to get out
[4:52] Speaker 3: of there.
[4:52] Speaker 2: He just wanted out.
[4:53] Speaker 1: This was a poorly run organization and maybe it's going
[4:56] Speaker 1: to change when with John Harbaugh coming aboard. Maybe just
[4:59] Speaker 1: wasn't happy about Joe Shane. But it just sounded like
[5:01] Speaker 1: a guy who wanted out. He said at his press
[5:05] Speaker 1: conference on Monday. When this opportunity came, I jumped at it.
[5:08] Speaker 1: I felt ease when I said I was going to
[5:11] Speaker 1: be a Cincinnati Bengal. I mean, who says that it
[5:14] Speaker 1: felt good to me? A little addendum to the New
[5:17] Speaker 1: York Post reporting, which yes reported that the agent would
[5:21] Speaker 1: only talk to Donna Ponte, who's a new John Harbaugh
[5:25] Speaker 1: Hier who John Harbaugh has report directly to him, and
[5:30] Speaker 1: Chris Mara, who's gotten more in the mix in ownership
[5:35] Speaker 1: and in the front office. Very interesting that none of
[5:38] Speaker 1: those people are the general manager of the team. But yes,
[5:41] Speaker 1: I agree, it points out that it's not about the money.
[5:44] Speaker 1: But the interesting dentum is that item in the New
[5:47] Speaker 1: York Post is no longer there. Really, it's been taken
[5:50] Speaker 1: out this morning plot twist.
[5:53] Speaker 4: I love when you do this. You dropped just a little.
[5:55] Speaker 2: I would have loved to add that.
[5:57] Speaker 1: I'm glad I happened to follow Bobby Skinner on Twitter,
[6:02] Speaker 1: who I think is maybe the best kind of local
[6:05] Speaker 1: podcaster and one of the best reporters covering the Giants.
[6:08] Speaker 1: He does the Giants Nation Pod, and he noted that
[6:11] Speaker 1: it had been removed.
[6:12] Speaker 2: So you can almost and I'm.
[6:14] Speaker 1: Gonna just speculate here, you can just almost imagine the
[6:17] Speaker 1: higher ups, maybe John Harbaugh himself saying this is ridiculous,
[6:21] Speaker 1: or Joe Shane whatever, get that thing out of there.
[6:23] Speaker 2: And they took it out of there.
[6:24] Speaker 3: Greg, I have to tell you it's probably two because
[6:27] Speaker 3: the league is really mattering about this. That's how I
[6:30] Speaker 3: saw it. Is a high ranking league source. Send it
[6:34] Speaker 3: to me the screenshot of.
[6:35] Speaker 1: It, because it was one of those things that didn't
[6:37] Speaker 1: lead the article. But pft's aggregated.
[6:40] Speaker 3: Just to just to say not to sound like a
[6:42] Speaker 3: total douchebag saying that, just to say that, like that,
[6:45] Speaker 3: the league is talking about this, they're watching this job.
[6:48] Speaker 2: I like to stick.
[6:49] Speaker 1: You know, aggregation gets a bad business, a bad reputation.
[6:54] Speaker 1: The only reason the league is even talking about this.
[6:56] Speaker 1: And then PFT wrote an article which makes the is
[6:58] Speaker 1: because I just said, Bobby Skinner cut and pasted something,
[7:02] Speaker 1: which is you have to be subscribed.
[7:04] Speaker 2: You can't just read the New York qotes.
[7:05] Speaker 1: Put that up on Twitter, and then that gets past
[7:07] Speaker 1: the log And so sometimes the reporting actually happens, but
[7:10] Speaker 1: it takes an aggregator to be like, huh, that's interesting
[7:12] Speaker 1: that that's in paragraph eight.
[7:14] Speaker 2: Greg.
[7:15] Speaker 1: Yes, let's get into the idea that the price was
[7:21] Speaker 1: so much. You know, the tenth overall pick. I mentioned
[7:24] Speaker 1: the other two people non or no, I think they
[7:28] Speaker 1: were quarterbacks. Actually it was a Randy Moss trade who
[7:32] Speaker 1: went to the Raiders for a top ten pick. The
[7:34] Speaker 1: other one was actually Russell Wilson, now that I think
[7:37] Speaker 1: of it, so it wasn't non quarterbacks and a guy
[7:40] Speaker 1: who's entering his third contract. I kind of wondered about, like,
[7:44] Speaker 1: is this guy declining the worst two teams in the
[7:47] Speaker 1: NFL last year against the run were the Bengals and
[7:49] Speaker 1: the Giants. So the Bengals were the worst. You think
[7:52] Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence is going to improve things, but Dexter Lawrence
[7:54] Speaker 1: was there on the second worst. I went back and
[7:56] Speaker 1: watched some of his film and he definitely did disappeared
[8:00] Speaker 1: for games at a time. I think the pass rush
[8:02] Speaker 1: juice is still there. But if you just look at
[8:04] Speaker 1: the numbers his pressure percentage the last four years fourteen percent,
[8:09] Speaker 1: twelve point six percent, nine point six percent, six percent
[8:14] Speaker 1: with most players. If you if you say those stats
[8:17] Speaker 1: like that's a declining player. His pressures uh declined rapidly
[8:22] Speaker 1: last year.
[8:22] Speaker 2: Overall. I thought when I.
[8:24] Speaker 1: Look though, like he he gets a lot of double teams.
[8:26] Speaker 1: He was second in the league in double teams. I
[8:28] Speaker 1: thought the effort, especially on the pass rush was not
[8:30] Speaker 1: a problem. Like you could see that he still has
[8:32] Speaker 1: that juice. He plays three technique too a lot. He's
[8:35] Speaker 1: not always at the nose tackle. If he's you know,
[8:37] Speaker 1: on a guard like he can win those, but he
[8:41] Speaker 1: needs to be way better. Like his run defense grade
[8:43] Speaker 1: in PFF like totally went through the you know floor,
[8:47] Speaker 1: which I don't put that much into but then watching
[8:49] Speaker 1: it like he's not getting off his blocks, he was
[8:51] Speaker 1: not playing as well. He was playing with a bit
[8:54] Speaker 1: of an elbow brace for a while, but he's also
[8:55] Speaker 1: at an elbow injury for a year and a half now.
[8:58] Speaker 1: So like to me, there are are red flags about
[9:01] Speaker 1: paying a guy on his third contract.
[9:03] Speaker 2: And that was the stat by the way, by Barnell.
[9:05] Speaker 1: It was I think guys at that point in their career,
[9:08] Speaker 1: like on a third contract getting traded.
[9:10] Speaker 4: Yes, all of that is fair and logical.
[9:14] Speaker 3: I think I'd be remiss to not add the context
[9:16] Speaker 3: behind some of these stats too, which is that he
[9:20] Speaker 3: was playing for a team.
[9:20] Speaker 4: He did not want to be a part of anymore.
[9:22] Speaker 3: Yeah, and well beyond well before this actual trade request happened,
[9:28] Speaker 3: there was whispers about this as early as two years ago.
[9:31] Speaker 3: This was not necessarily a contract thing for him. We
[9:34] Speaker 3: see it clearly with the amount, the real amount that
[9:37] Speaker 3: they've agreed to in Cincinnati with him. This was about
[9:41] Speaker 3: a player who did not want to be a part
[9:42] Speaker 3: of the organization anymore. And so you know, with all
[9:46] Speaker 3: of that statistical evidence and your eyeball tests and watching
[9:49] Speaker 3: the tape, I think that contextually we sometimes can also
[9:54] Speaker 3: blame some of the infrastructure for the way a player
[9:56] Speaker 3: is or is not performing.
[9:57] Speaker 1: Absolutely, do you get the honeymoon learns just want a
[10:00] Speaker 1: fresh start.
[10:01] Speaker 2: He's still young enough.
[10:02] Speaker 1: This is a position the age as well in general,
[10:05] Speaker 1: to play much better moving forward. You sometimes get that
[10:10] Speaker 1: it's just you know, the number ten overall pick, what
[10:13] Speaker 1: does it say about maybe the draft and like that
[10:17] Speaker 1: they weren't going to get the right guy, and they
[10:19] Speaker 1: really wanted a defensive tackle maybe specifically, they certainly weren't
[10:22] Speaker 1: going to get that in this draft.
[10:23] Speaker 3: That's a great point because I always think you have
[10:25] Speaker 3: to look at these moves not only in a vacuum,
[10:26] Speaker 3: but in the context of the entire draft itself when
[10:30] Speaker 3: it correlates directly to this upcoming draft and this one.
[10:34] Speaker 3: When I look at the Bengals, they are in a
[10:38] Speaker 3: must win type of team build right now. Where to me,
[10:42] Speaker 3: they were sort of teetering on the fence of are
[10:44] Speaker 3: they going.
[10:44] Speaker 5: To do enough this offseason? Will they be aggressive enough
[10:47] Speaker 5: this offseason?
[10:49] Speaker 3: They started their free agency period with a flurry of
[10:52] Speaker 3: moves and then very much fell off a cliff in
[10:55] Speaker 3: terms of their activity. They have a quarterback they absolutely
[10:58] Speaker 3: need to maximize. They have a coach who's what an
[11:00] Speaker 3: during the last year of his contract. They have a
[11:02] Speaker 3: front office that is repeatedly born criticism and a lot
[11:06] Speaker 3: of times rightfully so for the way that it's handled,
[11:09] Speaker 3: the way that it's tried to rebuild this defense. This
[11:11] Speaker 3: is basically them saying, Okay, we understand that this is
[11:15] Speaker 3: a bit of a no man's land at pick ten.
[11:18] Speaker 5: We must maximize.
[11:19] Speaker 3: We must win football games now, we must maximize what
[11:22] Speaker 3: we have on offense. Time to go be aggressive and
[11:24] Speaker 3: trade that pick that we don't think will be as
[11:26] Speaker 3: valuable to us in the short term for a player,
[11:29] Speaker 3: a proven player of Dexter Lawrence is perceived caliber.
[11:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, they could have gotten kailed downs in safety. Perhaps
[11:35] Speaker 1: they could have had their pick of probably the top
[11:37] Speaker 1: cornerbacks in this and maybe weren't going to get a
[11:39] Speaker 1: defensive line.
[11:40] Speaker 3: It's them telling you what they think about the draft.
[11:43] Speaker 3: It's them telling you what they think about Dexter Lawrence.
[11:46] Speaker 3: We all have our own thoughts and everything, but this
[11:48] Speaker 3: is the Bengals telling you where they think they are
[11:51] Speaker 3: and what they think of this draft and the player
[11:54] Speaker 3: they just acquired. And so they might be wrong, they
[11:56] Speaker 3: might be right, right. But I always think it's very
[11:59] Speaker 3: interesting when it's makes multiple statements with one move.
[12:03] Speaker 1: And I think the statement is also what you were
[12:05] Speaker 1: getting at at the beginning. They have to win now,
[12:07] Speaker 1: I think this. You always have to be a little
[12:09] Speaker 1: worried when regimes make choices based on not wanting to
[12:14] Speaker 1: get fired. They have not made the playoffs three straight years.
[12:17] Speaker 1: I feel like that, Like, it's just crazy to me
[12:19] Speaker 1: if you had told me when they lost that what
[12:22] Speaker 1: divisional round game the year after they made the Super
[12:24] Speaker 1: Bowl rather the conference championship, that they weren't going to
[12:28] Speaker 1: be back in the playoffs for three years, and you
[12:30] Speaker 1: can say, oh, Joe Burrow's hurt a lot. They're nineteen
[12:32] Speaker 1: and sixteen. In Joe Burrow starts, They're a mediocre team
[12:36] Speaker 1: in Joe Burrow starts. So to me, it's a huge risk.
[12:39] Speaker 1: I think dexter Lawrence for the price that they paid
[12:42] Speaker 1: in terms of the draft capital, and then also you know, financially,
[12:45] Speaker 1: he's going to be one of the most expensive players
[12:47] Speaker 1: on the team. He needs to be better than he's
[12:50] Speaker 1: been the last you know, year, year and a half.
[12:53] Speaker 1: He had three years at the start of his career
[12:54] Speaker 1: was a good player. Then he had three years where
[12:58] Speaker 1: he was one of the ten best players in the
[13:00] Speaker 1: entire NFL. I know he only made second team All Pros,
[13:03] Speaker 1: but he was in the mix of a defensive Player
[13:04] Speaker 1: of the Year period in twenty twenty four before he
[13:07] Speaker 1: suffered this injury. He needs to be like super duper
[13:11] Speaker 1: and not just really good in terms of being a
[13:13] Speaker 1: star to make it worth it. Whereas from the Giants
[13:16] Speaker 1: and let's get to their like drafting. Actually let's hear
[13:19] Speaker 1: from Dexter Laurence who who did talk I said at
[13:22] Speaker 1: a podium, But there also was like a fun image
[13:24] Speaker 1: of him arriving in Cincinnati after he passed that physical
[13:29] Speaker 1: and walking out the hollow field in the.
[13:32] Speaker 4: Chills, just goes to win.
[13:36] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was him, you know, entering pay Corps Stadium.
[13:42] Speaker 4: He is a good podcaster already, he knows to.
[13:44] Speaker 2: Hedge and I love what he's like.
[13:46] Speaker 1: I got it chills, And actually later in comments to
[13:50] Speaker 1: Jeff Hobson of the team's website, he said he got
[13:52] Speaker 1: the chills, but.
[13:53] Speaker 2: I liked it the moment.
[13:53] Speaker 1: He was like, well, I got the chills, but it
[13:55] Speaker 1: wasn't because of all the great memories I know that
[13:57] Speaker 1: have happened.
[13:57] Speaker 2: At pay Core stadiums because it's cold.
[13:59] Speaker 1: It's cold and Cincinnati, but he said he picked up
[14:01] Speaker 1: a little bit of the turf on the field. He says,
[14:04] Speaker 1: I enjoy pressure. I enjoy being under that type of light.
[14:07] Speaker 1: I write down notes, and my notes are let my
[14:09] Speaker 1: light shine and keep joy. Don't let anything steal your joy.
[14:13] Speaker 1: And I think that gets to your point. That feels
[14:16] Speaker 1: like a very direct statement of like I let the
[14:19] Speaker 1: giants in the situation steal my joy.
[14:21] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[14:22] Speaker 1: Carl Banks, their great radio guy and Giants legend, got
[14:26] Speaker 1: a ton of criticism locally for basically saying how unhappy
[14:30] Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence was last year, that they need more out
[14:33] Speaker 1: of him, and everyone killed him, even though in the organization,
[14:37] Speaker 1: I think everyone probably agreed from with him. I think
[14:40] Speaker 1: he was I think he was right, and that's why
[14:41] Speaker 1: you can hope to get a better Dexter Lawrences.
[14:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[14:44] Speaker 3: I love that point, you know, it is something It's interesting.
[14:47] Speaker 3: I think about this a lot, and I think about
[14:49] Speaker 3: athletes at the peak of their powers basically, and athletes
[14:52] Speaker 3: at the peak of whatever gifts they have that make
[14:56] Speaker 3: them who they are, and then what happens when they
[14:59] Speaker 3: don't feel that the those gifts are being maximized. You
[15:02] Speaker 3: see it manifest in different ways. There are psychological studies
[15:05] Speaker 3: about this, and I think that more reflection, I think
[15:10] Speaker 3: by any organization should be done.
[15:12] Speaker 4: More studies should be done on this type of thing.
[15:15] Speaker 3: But it also includes needing some self awareness from the team,
[15:18] Speaker 3: and we just haven't really seen that from the Giants.
[15:21] Speaker 1: The Giants, it's a home run of a trade. I
[15:25] Speaker 1: like the Bengals is great. I thought when when Dexter
[15:28] Speaker 1: Lawrence wanted to get traded in general, I thought some
[15:32] Speaker 1: of the reaction was like, oh, it's the Giants blown
[15:34] Speaker 1: it again. I thought, like, this is an opportunity because
[15:36] Speaker 1: I think where they're at with their team build. I
[15:38] Speaker 1: know they're going to try to win this year. With
[15:39] Speaker 1: John Harbaugh getting a draft pick and getting off this
[15:42] Speaker 1: contract is great, and now you have the five and
[15:45] Speaker 1: the ten pick.
[15:45] Speaker 2: What are you laughing about?
[15:47] Speaker 3: It's just like, what mare does John Harbaugh specifically want here,
[15:50] Speaker 3: you know, other than to keep one of his best players.
[15:52] Speaker 3: I know, but I know it was like he's making
[15:55] Speaker 3: the picks. Apparently that's what the chatter is. Yeah, you know.
[15:59] Speaker 1: Your colleague Dane Bugler said that, and that seems I
[16:02] Speaker 1: little Bugler bomb. That seems clear that he is in
[16:06] Speaker 1: charge and he's in charge of everything. And so now
[16:09] Speaker 1: you have five and ten and the early and a
[16:12] Speaker 1: buzz not that early anymore is defense, and we're going
[16:18] Speaker 1: to get into some of the things I'm looking for.
[16:19] Speaker 1: But they're one of the new franchises, like I always
[16:22] Speaker 1: look at like statement of intent for new regimes, and
[16:25] Speaker 1: this is a new regime, and there's a lot of time.
[16:27] Speaker 1: You know, buzz of like one of the Ohio State defenders,
[16:32] Speaker 1: if not too makes sense for the type of tone
[16:35] Speaker 1: that they want to set. Now, that could be sunny
[16:37] Speaker 1: styles at linebacker. That could be Rvel Reese if he
[16:40] Speaker 1: falls to five, which feels unlikely. I think if there's
[16:43] Speaker 1: anyone trading up in this draft, it might be a
[16:45] Speaker 1: small trade up for Reese if he did fall past two,
[16:49] Speaker 1: or maybe even David Bailey pass too. And then there's
[16:52] Speaker 1: Caleb Downs at safety. Now with five and ten in theory,
[16:56] Speaker 1: you could end up with both. And then there's a
[16:58] Speaker 1: lot of people. Pete Tray at ESPN others are hitting
[17:02] Speaker 1: around at this are Mike Garriffalo reported that Joe Shane
[17:07] Speaker 1: personally visited the Jordan Tyson workout and had dinner with
[17:12] Speaker 1: him just last week. Uh, the wide receiver and that
[17:16] Speaker 1: a lot of people think he could go as early
[17:19] Speaker 1: as number ten.
[17:20] Speaker 2: What are you laughing about again? Just a lot.
[17:24] Speaker 3: It's just everything that we've sort of learned and said about,
[17:28] Speaker 3: like Joe Shane's role.
[17:29] Speaker 4: It's like, what if this is a smoke screen.
[17:32] Speaker 2: That's what I think it is. I I think that
[17:35] Speaker 2: is his role.
[17:35] Speaker 1: I think it is a smoke screen because when all
[17:38] Speaker 1: the insiders but they're not, it seems a little too
[17:44] Speaker 1: much that like suddenly everyone's like Jordan Tyson.
[17:47] Speaker 2: It probably did the giants.
[17:48] Speaker 1: And I'm even like parsing like which insiders things are
[17:53] Speaker 1: coming from, because different ones get different things, and and
[17:56] Speaker 1: I tend to agree to me it seems more likely.
[18:00] Speaker 1: And we'll get into my mock draft later in the
[18:02] Speaker 1: week that Benga Yuana would be the surprise number ten
[18:08] Speaker 1: overall pick, because that seems to me like a statement
[18:11] Speaker 1: of intent that John Harbaugh would do. You get the
[18:13] Speaker 1: Ohio State defender, whoever it is, at five, and then
[18:16] Speaker 1: Yuanna at the top guard in the draft at ten,
[18:19] Speaker 1: and you feel pretty good that he's going to be
[18:20] Speaker 1: there or or you just get two Ohio State defenders.
[18:23] Speaker 1: I don't Jordan Tyson doesn't make.
[18:24] Speaker 2: Sense to me. What do you think?
[18:26] Speaker 4: I can't wait to see your mind.
[18:27] Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, We've spent a long time on this, but
[18:31] Speaker 1: I did want to just say, as a league trend,
[18:34] Speaker 1: big picture, non quarterbacks are going higher. And barn will
[18:37] Speaker 1: help point this out. Quinnon Williams, Max Crosby, which was
[18:43] Speaker 1: you know, they renegged on it, but they were sending
[18:46] Speaker 1: still counted. Yeah sas Gardner now Dexter Lawrence. Guys on
[18:52] Speaker 1: their third contract are just this is a fairly new development.
[18:59] Speaker 1: Before that, there just weren't a lot of high picks,
[19:02] Speaker 1: like I said, getting traded for him, or first round
[19:04] Speaker 1: picks in general getting traded for non quarterbacks, especially entering
[19:09] Speaker 1: their third contract.
[19:10] Speaker 2: There's been some.
[19:11] Speaker 1: Stafford was one, DeVante Adams was one, Tyreek Hill was one.
[19:14] Speaker 1: Like you go through these and there's probably more misses
[19:17] Speaker 1: than hits. There were nine total trades for a first
[19:20] Speaker 1: round pick sent for a veteran defensive player in a
[19:23] Speaker 1: fifteen year span leading up to this last year. In
[19:27] Speaker 1: this draft alone, there's four Mcduffi's the other one, Ye Saftgarter,
[19:32] Speaker 1: Micah Dexter, And yeah, it's just people are kind of
[19:38] Speaker 1: looking at the FM PIX model. I think the Rams
[19:41] Speaker 1: and then a little less so the Eagles and the
[19:43] Speaker 1: Patriots from the last decade. I think I've influenced people
[19:45] Speaker 1: to give up those picks a little more for veterans.
[19:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, but I also think that it goes hand in
[19:50] Speaker 3: hand with a real cautiousness around these draft classes that
[19:57] Speaker 3: are coming out, especially at position where you might be
[20:01] Speaker 3: changing defensive schemes you don't know well into the future
[20:04] Speaker 3: or what your developmental track can potentially be for that prospect.
[20:08] Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned the Rams and them sort of
[20:10] Speaker 3: trend setting on a lot of this. I joke all
[20:13] Speaker 3: the time, it's not really a joke in my mind
[20:15] Speaker 3: that they just figured out they can't draft corners, so
[20:18] Speaker 3: they go and trade for them. So it's like a
[20:21] Speaker 3: situation where it's also like understanding where some of your
[20:25] Speaker 3: weak spots are or where your blind spots are. And
[20:27] Speaker 3: I think some of these draft classes post COVID season
[20:30] Speaker 3: nil era, all of this movement, all of these things
[20:33] Speaker 3: that people are trying at these organizations are trying to
[20:35] Speaker 3: get their feet back under them and understand where these
[20:38] Speaker 3: cycles are actually going to be from college football into
[20:42] Speaker 3: the NFL. I do think that's a part of it, too,
[20:45] Speaker 3: is trading for proven players at premium, specifically premium positions,
[20:51] Speaker 3: versus betting on picks that they are less certain of
[20:54] Speaker 3: than they normally are, which already is about a thirty
[20:56] Speaker 3: to forty percent hit rate.
[20:58] Speaker 1: Right if it wasn't for the content of it all
[21:01] Speaker 1: than the Dexter Lawrence, Like I keep seeing like, of
[21:03] Speaker 1: course I'd rather have Dexter Lawrence intent overal pick. Well, yeah,
[21:05] Speaker 1: of course, I mean because but he's making as much
[21:08] Speaker 1: money in this one year as the entire contract. Yeah,
[21:11] Speaker 1: and they and they have been poor drafting defensive linemen,
[21:14] Speaker 1: and they've been poor building out their defensive line room.
[21:17] Speaker 1: And everyone is really excited about the new room. And
[21:20] Speaker 1: it's like, we'll see boy Mafe. I like that as
[21:24] Speaker 1: a signing. But he's now their number one edge they
[21:26] Speaker 1: had they only have Miles Murphy across from him and
[21:30] Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart, who did nothing as a rookie. Miles Murphy's
[21:32] Speaker 1: been a disappointment. BJ Hill's a good player to put
[21:35] Speaker 1: next to Dexter Lawrence and they signed Jonathan Allen, so
[21:37] Speaker 1: their defensive tackle position like looks much better on paper.
[21:41] Speaker 1: But add that al up and it's like I would
[21:44] Speaker 1: say the hope should be to be average.
[21:48] Speaker 2: I don't.
[21:48] Speaker 1: I don't think that's a group that's gonna be like
[21:49] Speaker 1: a difference making group.
[21:51] Speaker 2: Maybe a little better. I guess the hope is to
[21:52] Speaker 2: be if.
[21:53] Speaker 5: They can be average.
[21:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, if they can literally just brawl to average Joe
[21:59] Speaker 3: Burrow and that all defence, that lifts that floor for
[22:02] Speaker 3: that team and lifts that ceiling for that team enormously.
[22:04] Speaker 5: I mean, some of those losses, Rudy he.
[22:06] Speaker 3: Scoring thirty five for almost forty points a game, and
[22:09] Speaker 3: they're still losing because the defense is giving up more.
[22:12] Speaker 3: If you can just crawl to the mean on defense,
[22:15] Speaker 3: then if you have a top five, top ten offense.
[22:18] Speaker 3: A lot of coaches, a lot of organizations believe they
[22:20] Speaker 3: can win that way, for better for worse.
[22:21] Speaker 2: That is their path.
[22:23] Speaker 1: And I'm glad you brought up Burrow before we take
[22:24] Speaker 1: a break, which is just that I think if they
[22:28] Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs for the fourth straight year, the
[22:30] Speaker 1: whole like, could Joe Burrow pull a Yannis, you know,
[22:34] Speaker 1: and try to force his way out or make it
[22:37] Speaker 1: a little clear that he's not happy. Following in the
[22:41] Speaker 1: footsteps of Carson Palmer back in the day, there has
[22:44] Speaker 1: to be some concern about that. And so this is
[22:46] Speaker 1: a big year for this entire regime.
[22:48] Speaker 2: Let's win.
[22:49] Speaker 1: Now, let's take a break, and we'll come back with
[22:51] Speaker 1: the rest of the news and then ten things we
[22:53] Speaker 1: want to see in the twenty twenty sixth draft. Good
[22:57] Speaker 1: to be back in the studio, back on NFL Daily
[23:09] Speaker 1: on this big Patriots Day.
[23:11] Speaker 4: Oh god, I was whistling with the theme. I knew
[23:13] Speaker 4: this was coming in.
[23:14] Speaker 1: Not a lot of awareness in the studio or behind
[23:18] Speaker 1: the glass about the official Massachusetts holiday Patriots. They not
[23:22] Speaker 1: celebrating the football team, but a civic holiday observed to
[23:27] Speaker 1: you know, celebrate the opening battles.
[23:29] Speaker 2: Of the Revolutionary War.
[23:31] Speaker 1: You got the marathon, you got the Red Sox game
[23:34] Speaker 1: starting at eleven am. It's already over by the time
[23:36] Speaker 1: we started taping this. And then everyone gets it off
[23:39] Speaker 1: and you feel like a special little flower that the
[23:40] Speaker 1: rest of the country's going to school while you have
[23:43] Speaker 1: it off.
[23:44] Speaker 2: Big Day.
[23:45] Speaker 1: You know what else, the Big Day Thursday, the NFL Draft.
[23:47] Speaker 1: We are going live on YouTube after the draft. It'll
[23:53] Speaker 1: be Jordan Rodrigue and myself and yeah, really looking forward
[23:58] Speaker 1: to that. And so yeah, do the little thing where
[24:01] Speaker 1: you save it and you get enough options during the draft.
[24:04] Speaker 2: Who needs that?
[24:05] Speaker 1: The second it's over, you don't have to wait for
[24:08] Speaker 1: the podcast, but you could do both.
[24:10] Speaker 2: Listen.
[24:11] Speaker 3: So you're saying, the entire state of Massachusetts also has
[24:14] Speaker 3: a day off on April twentieth.
[24:18] Speaker 2: Four to twenty.
[24:19] Speaker 1: Bro Oh, that's what Dave Danishek would would say every
[24:24] Speaker 1: time it turned four to twenty in our NFL Network newsroom,
[24:28] Speaker 1: which was like funny the first seventy five hundred times,
[24:33] Speaker 1: but once he got into like the four hundredth, five
[24:36] Speaker 1: hundredth time, it happened like it was even funnier.
[24:38] Speaker 4: But yes, art is subjective.
[24:40] Speaker 2: I just I just.
[24:41] Speaker 1: Learned Maine has it off too. I didn't know that,
[24:44] Speaker 1: let's let's actually wrap up the Giants because literally, as
[24:47] Speaker 1: we were taking a break, Odell Beckham, we learned is
[24:50] Speaker 1: in the building taking a physical. So we don't know
[24:52] Speaker 1: if that means he's gonna get signed with it. That's interesting.
[24:54] Speaker 1: Doing a little bit of a workout seems like this
[24:56] Speaker 1: thing might actually happen. I also note saw this little
[25:00] Speaker 1: report that like, hey, Dexter Lawrence, he doesn't like to
[25:02] Speaker 1: work that you know, this report kind of dogging him.
[25:05] Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence doesn't like to work that hard Monday to Saturday.
[25:08] Speaker 1: And he wasn't necessarily looking forward to the John Harbaugh
[25:11] Speaker 1: era Harbor known as a task master. And that made
[25:14] Speaker 1: me think of this appearance that Zay Flowers had on
[25:17] Speaker 1: the Fourth and South podcast hosted by Jarvis Landry and
[25:21] Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette. M you know, look, I think Jarvis is
[25:25] Speaker 1: from New Orleans. Anyone from New Orleans is immediately just
[25:28] Speaker 1: got a little extra something to them. And Leonard Fournette
[25:30] Speaker 1: from the area too. Bet it's entertaining. Za Flowers got
[25:33] Speaker 1: a little notice last week. I thought said, quote, however
[25:36] Speaker 1: many practices and pads you can get, we're doing every
[25:39] Speaker 1: single one talking about Harbaugh, uh one on ones in
[25:42] Speaker 1: week seventeen. Everybody out there were tired, was still going later.
[25:46] Speaker 1: He's like, that's why I think we had a lot
[25:48] Speaker 1: of injuries because of how we practice, how we went.
[25:51] Speaker 1: The load was heavy, and people were like, you know,
[25:55] Speaker 1: how could have we didn't hear this from players when
[25:57] Speaker 1: they were in BALLD tour, was like.
[25:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, we did.
[25:59] Speaker 1: Ed Reid talked about it openly that he never agreed
[26:03] Speaker 1: with John harbaughd didn't really like how Harbad did business.
[26:06] Speaker 1: Ed Reid was at the end of his career when
[26:08] Speaker 1: Harbaugh came aboard and they won a Super Bowl together.
[26:10] Speaker 1: But interesting just thinking about that, with Harbaugh landing in
[26:14] Speaker 1: New York, it's all a piece of the puzzle.
[26:17] Speaker 4: Old school man.
[26:18] Speaker 3: It's old school and you're gonna like it or you're
[26:21] Speaker 3: not going to be on the team anymore kind of mentality.
[26:24] Speaker 2: So they have had a lot of injuries.
[26:25] Speaker 1: I don't know, though, I don't know enough to say
[26:29] Speaker 1: that practicing in full pads, which is out of step.
[26:33] Speaker 1: You know that late in the season is a bad idea.
[26:36] Speaker 1: I mean, the Chiefs have been famously running a harder
[26:38] Speaker 1: training camp than everyone else over the last five ten years,
[26:42] Speaker 1: and that's worked well for them.
[26:43] Speaker 2: So who knows.
[26:45] Speaker 1: Let's go to some news because, like I said, we're
[26:47] Speaker 1: gonna get to the aj brown stuff later. We got
[26:49] Speaker 1: to fly through this, We got to get through a segment.
[26:50] Speaker 1: But a lot has happened, a lot of contracts. Let's
[26:52] Speaker 1: start with Trent Williams. It gets done two years, fifty
[26:55] Speaker 1: million dollars. He gets thirty seven million dollars guaranteed on
[26:58] Speaker 1: this contract, adds a lot of money guaranteed in twenty
[27:03] Speaker 1: twenty seven, so it seems to basically lock him in
[27:08] Speaker 1: through his age thirty nine season unless things just went
[27:12] Speaker 1: horribly wrong this year. And even in that case, he's
[27:15] Speaker 1: earned some money in to next year. So good to
[27:17] Speaker 1: see that he got his deal done.
[27:20] Speaker 4: Yeah, which is what we all expected.
[27:22] Speaker 3: It's just one of those things where John Lynch and
[27:24] Speaker 3: company just kind of keeps avoiding the problem until it
[27:27] Speaker 3: becomes a much bigger problem than it actually is.
[27:29] Speaker 4: If he can still go, then he will.
[27:31] Speaker 3: I don't think that this precludes them from attacking the
[27:36] Speaker 3: position in the draft, trying to find what the dex
[27:38] Speaker 3: development plan of the.
[27:39] Speaker 4: Next player will be.
[27:41] Speaker 3: But yeah, this is kind of like the rest of
[27:43] Speaker 3: the roster is so top heavy you might as well
[27:46] Speaker 3: roll till the wheels fall off on this one.
[27:48] Speaker 1: Matt Barrows report or just made a tweet like joking
[27:52] Speaker 1: half joking that he just thinks John Lynch didn't want
[27:54] Speaker 1: to do another press conference where he said that a
[27:56] Speaker 1: Trent Williams contract was imminent and he has a press
[27:58] Speaker 1: conference on Monday, and that was like his soft line.
[28:01] Speaker 1: And I'll give them some credit because they've dragged these
[28:04] Speaker 1: things out over and over into training camp and they've
[28:07] Speaker 1: been trying to avoid that.
[28:08] Speaker 2: They even said that was a goal for them. So
[28:10] Speaker 2: this is early now.
[28:11] Speaker 5: It was just happening up in Washington.
[28:13] Speaker 1: You know, right, And Trent Williams, it is interesting to
[28:15] Speaker 1: think when he got traded to the forty nine ers.
[28:18] Speaker 1: I even remember saying back on a round the NFL,
[28:19] Speaker 1: I was like it sounds crazy, but like he's not
[28:23] Speaker 1: that far away from like a guy that has a
[28:26] Speaker 1: Hall of Fame candidacy at the time, Like he has
[28:29] Speaker 1: to just add on a few more years and like
[28:31] Speaker 1: he's going to have a candidcy now it's just a
[28:33] Speaker 1: you know, he might be first ballot, Like it's just
[28:35] Speaker 1: assumed he's one of the best tackles of all time.
[28:37] Speaker 1: So what a trade that turned out to be for
[28:38] Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Speaking of a team getting contracts
[28:41] Speaker 1: done earlier and earlier, let's give the Cowboys some love.
[28:44] Speaker 1: Brandon Aubrey twenty eight million dollars over four years, twenty
[28:47] Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed ten million dollars in his first year,
[28:51] Speaker 1: so the seven million per year not nearly like what
[28:55] Speaker 1: he was reportedly looking for. But the fact that he's
[28:58] Speaker 1: getting paid ten million dollars this year is breaking major
[29:02] Speaker 1: barriers for a kicker, and even the average is pretty good,
[29:06] Speaker 1: and he'll probably go looking for more money by the
[29:08] Speaker 1: end of this contract.
[29:09] Speaker 2: So the Cowboys didn't drag it out. Good job. I
[29:12] Speaker 2: don't know if there's much to say about that.
[29:13] Speaker 1: How about Will Anderson getting one hundred and fifty million
[29:15] Speaker 1: dollars in a three year extension. A one hundred and
[29:18] Speaker 1: thirty four million dollars garn tied for will Anderson. He
[29:24] Speaker 1: is now locked up, and I think the word extension
[29:26] Speaker 1: is really important here. He had two years left on
[29:29] Speaker 1: his rookie contract, so that changes the whole average money
[29:32] Speaker 1: he had the fifth year option. It's great for him.
[29:35] Speaker 1: All this guaranteed money is right at the top of
[29:38] Speaker 1: defensive players in the history of the NFL, so he's
[29:41] Speaker 1: earned that. But also they control his rights through twenty thirty,
[29:44] Speaker 1: which is a really long time. I know you're a
[29:47] Speaker 1: big fan of Will Anderson and just kind of like
[29:52] Speaker 1: maybe the biggest weight bearing wall right now in that organization.
[29:55] Speaker 3: Yeah, he is the present in the future for that team,
[29:58] Speaker 3: and you can compare him with you know, Daniel Hunter
[30:02] Speaker 3: has been great paired opposite him obviously, but you could
[30:04] Speaker 3: You're gonna be able to pair him with any type
[30:06] Speaker 3: of rusher because he can do everything. He is absolutely
[30:10] Speaker 3: a incredible sort of queen on a chessboard type player
[30:16] Speaker 3: where you can do so many different things mathematically because
[30:19] Speaker 3: of who he is as a franchise.
[30:21] Speaker 4: Like you said, weight bearing Wall.
[30:23] Speaker 3: I also like that they did it early. This is
[30:25] Speaker 3: smart business. This is extend your your best players, extend
[30:28] Speaker 3: your players who you know are going to be around
[30:30] Speaker 3: for the long term, and do it before.
[30:33] Speaker 4: You know he even reaches his prime. He's not even
[30:36] Speaker 4: there yet, and do it before he potentially costs way
[30:39] Speaker 4: way more.
[30:40] Speaker 1: Right, And this is going to aid it well for
[30:42] Speaker 1: the Texans, and he'll, if he plays as well as
[30:45] Speaker 1: he's played so far, will want more money once you
[30:47] Speaker 1: get into year three of that. But that's the great
[30:49] Speaker 1: thing of these longer extensions. So the average is not
[30:52] Speaker 1: that crazy, even though per year, just on the three
[30:55] Speaker 1: year extension it's quite a bit. It does show the
[30:57] Speaker 1: difference between him and CJ. Stroud, not that we needed
[30:59] Speaker 1: a contract to explain that to us, but like there,
[31:02] Speaker 1: I don't think they're working on a big contract extension
[31:05] Speaker 1: for CG. Strawd two years ago at this time, like
[31:07] Speaker 1: you would have thought that they're getting it together. I
[31:10] Speaker 1: have a comp for Willie Anderson by the way of
[31:13] Speaker 1: what he means to the Texans and the type of
[31:15] Speaker 1: career that he's having because I kind of remembered him
[31:17] Speaker 1: as a draft prospect when they gave up they gave
[31:20] Speaker 1: up the number twelve pick in that draft. The they
[31:25] Speaker 1: the thirty three pick in that draft, and then a
[31:27] Speaker 1: first and a third the following year, so to first.
[31:30] Speaker 1: But you know, you get Willie Anderson and you know,
[31:33] Speaker 1: a high second, the first pick of the second draft
[31:36] Speaker 1: and a third, Well, you got to be great. And
[31:37] Speaker 1: people were wondering does he have the ceiling? Like is
[31:40] Speaker 1: he ever gonna be Miles Garrey? He's not quite that
[31:42] Speaker 1: bendy and twitchy. Is he ever gonna be the best
[31:44] Speaker 1: edge in the game. And it's funny to think about
[31:47] Speaker 1: that now and maybe he's not quite. And this is
[31:50] Speaker 1: where my comp comes in of what he means to
[31:52] Speaker 1: them and where he is in the in the stratosphere.
[31:55] Speaker 1: Is he like there Larry Fitzgerald as a player, because
[31:58] Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald people kind of think of and now he's
[32:00] Speaker 1: like he's one of the great receivers all the time,
[32:02] Speaker 1: But he was never like the guy. He was always
[32:03] Speaker 1: like the third or fourth best receiver in the league,
[32:06] Speaker 1: but just consistently throughout his whole career. Obviously he had
[32:09] Speaker 1: that great playoff run, like he had moments. I'm not
[32:11] Speaker 1: trying to downplay him, but that's kind of Will Anderson
[32:14] Speaker 1: to me. It's like, yeah, there might be one or
[32:16] Speaker 1: two guys that are just like a little higher than
[32:18] Speaker 1: you at the NFL level, but what you mean to
[32:19] Speaker 1: the franchise and the consistency of being a top five
[32:22] Speaker 1: guy at your position over and over and over and
[32:25] Speaker 1: maybe a future Hall of Famer maybe.
[32:26] Speaker 3: But I think that one of the elements of the
[32:29] Speaker 3: Larry Fitzgerald conversation was relative to his peers, they were
[32:33] Speaker 3: all kind of in the same area of their career.
[32:36] Speaker 3: I'd say, will Anderson, like I said, has not even
[32:39] Speaker 3: entered his proc years yet. Some of these other guys
[32:41] Speaker 3: that we talked about as the best, are you know,
[32:43] Speaker 3: age twenty nine age thirty, are about to exit, so
[32:46] Speaker 3: there is a very real scenario in which this is
[32:49] Speaker 3: the most dominant pass rusher in the NFL for the next,
[32:52] Speaker 3: you know, eight years.
[32:53] Speaker 1: Keep an eye on them at edge in the draft.
[32:56] Speaker 1: I think that's a sneaky need for them. If they
[32:58] Speaker 1: had a guy that they liked late in the first round,
[33:01] Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me because Danil Hunter. They add a one
[33:03] Speaker 1: year extension there. But they're thin behind those two guys relatively,
[33:07] Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if they are always looking
[33:10] Speaker 1: edge because case Hunter won't be there forever. It's time
[33:12] Speaker 1: for the off season ride along, presented by Toyota. Speaking
[33:15] Speaker 1: of the Cardinals, Jacoby Brissett not at the Cardinals facility
[33:19] Speaker 1: right now while they are lifting weights, you, I think
[33:23] Speaker 1: texted me, I hope this is okay to say that
[33:26] Speaker 1: you just wish you could walk through then, you know,
[33:28] Speaker 1: through your life with the type of confidence that Jacoby
[33:31] Speaker 1: Brissette has not throw up to the facility.
[33:34] Speaker 4: I just love this energy.
[33:36] Speaker 3: Man. I know he's gonna heap for it from their
[33:38] Speaker 3: local media. I don't care, like I love this energy
[33:42] Speaker 3: to say, listen the context of this too.
[33:45] Speaker 4: Is it last year?
[33:46] Speaker 3: Even as early as training camp, Jacoby Brissett called his
[33:49] Speaker 3: shot and was adamant that he was going to be
[33:52] Speaker 3: the starter for that football team. And then went on
[33:54] Speaker 3: to start and they lost a ton of games, and
[33:56] Speaker 3: he threw the ball a ton of times, a record
[33:58] Speaker 3: breaking amount of times, and they lost so many games.
[34:01] Speaker 3: And now he's like, all right, you don't have a
[34:03] Speaker 3: plan for your starting quarterback yet, I would like to
[34:06] Speaker 3: get paid like a starter if I'm going to be
[34:08] Speaker 3: starting games. So that the just the confidence and the
[34:12] Speaker 3: energy of this, I don't I don't care.
[34:16] Speaker 4: I just love it. I think it's awesome.
[34:18] Speaker 2: I love it too.
[34:19] Speaker 1: And there was reporting from Ian Rapaport that it sounds
[34:22] Speaker 1: like the Cardinals would be willing to play ball. Then again,
[34:25] Speaker 1: they had a press conference on Thursday before this news
[34:28] Speaker 1: was out that maybe told a different story.
[34:30] Speaker 6: Listen, we got Jacobe Gardner. They both played a lot
[34:33] Speaker 6: of ball. You know, I think you know, as we
[34:36] Speaker 6: sit here today, like we're not we're we don't. We're
[34:39] Speaker 6: trying to.
[34:40] Speaker 4: Install a system.
[34:41] Speaker 6: You guys are rolling. You know, I'll defer to you
[34:44] Speaker 6: on that, but like you know, we're not not really
[34:46] Speaker 6: naming anybody, and we'll see how that room looks. By
[34:49] Speaker 6: by the time we get in August.
[34:50] Speaker 1: They weren't naming Jacobe like a month and a half ago,
[34:52] Speaker 1: saying he was the starter, and now he's not because
[34:54] Speaker 1: he's Yeah.
[34:55] Speaker 4: They don't want to pay him. Of course they're doing
[34:57] Speaker 4: it like this.
[34:57] Speaker 1: So he he's due a little under five million dollars
[35:01] Speaker 1: this year.
[35:01] Speaker 5: Get him to ten.
[35:02] Speaker 4: I get him to ten.
[35:03] Speaker 2: His average for the two years.
[35:05] Speaker 1: I don't like when people just take away the signing
[35:07] Speaker 1: bonus money was six point twenty five, so that that
[35:09] Speaker 1: is mid tier backup money. It's not great. I heard
[35:13] Speaker 1: that and I thought, does he survive the draft? I
[35:15] Speaker 1: think there's there is a world where he's on the
[35:17] Speaker 1: Jets or some other team. I don't think it's that
[35:20] Speaker 1: crazy because if they end up with ty Simpson, you
[35:23] Speaker 1: don't need ty Simpson, Gardner Minshew and Jacoby Brissett.
[35:25] Speaker 2: They might just be like, see you.
[35:26] Speaker 3: Man, even if it doesn't turn out. Advice to the
[35:29] Speaker 3: young people listening, if you don't ask for what you want,
[35:32] Speaker 3: you're never gonna get it.
[35:33] Speaker 4: Even if you were.
[35:34] Speaker 3: If you have to find out, if you're never gonna
[35:36] Speaker 3: get it in the first place, fine find out. But
[35:37] Speaker 3: if you do not ask for what you want in
[35:40] Speaker 3: this life like Jacoby Brissette is doing, then you will
[35:43] Speaker 3: never get it.
[35:44] Speaker 5: You won't even have the chance of getting it.
[35:45] Speaker 1: So he is the best quarterback on that roster. He
[35:48] Speaker 1: is better than Gardner Minshew. That was the off season
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[36:02] Speaker 1: through a couple other quick ones. A challenge trade of
[36:05] Speaker 1: second round defensive tackles. That's a first just from two
[36:10] Speaker 1: years ago. The Jaguars swapped Mason Smith with the double
[36:14] Speaker 1: A in the middle, who really hasn't been doing much
[36:16] Speaker 1: at all.
[36:17] Speaker 2: Kind of a buzz.
[36:18] Speaker 5: It's like a big foul exchange.
[36:20] Speaker 1: Yes to the Falcons for Rooke Aroo a Roro. I
[36:25] Speaker 1: love saying that name. Really surprising because a roller row
[36:31] Speaker 1: has been promising as a pro thirty two pressures last
[36:35] Speaker 1: year from the interior, not known as like a great
[36:38] Speaker 1: run defender, but compared to Mason Smith, who had six
[36:44] Speaker 1: pressures I think according to the next Gen all of
[36:46] Speaker 1: last year and was a healthy scratch behind some pretty
[36:48] Speaker 1: poor people. It is a confounding trade for the Falcons
[36:52] Speaker 1: to trade some pass resjuice. But I guess it's just like, hey,
[36:55] Speaker 1: we have.
[36:55] Speaker 2: A new system.
[36:55] Speaker 1: This guy doesn't fit our new system, but I like
[36:58] Speaker 1: it for the Jaguars pass residuice.
[37:01] Speaker 3: This is a nice addition for Jacksonville, I would say,
[37:03] Speaker 3: because now they get to see what his upside could be.
[37:07] Speaker 3: This is probably a player that they had a strong
[37:09] Speaker 3: evaluation on coming out of the draft, or at least
[37:11] Speaker 3: the previous in their previous regime. And I just think
[37:14] Speaker 3: that this is I don't know, this is like a
[37:16] Speaker 3: high upside situation.
[37:18] Speaker 1: Eleven quick pressures, which is actually more than Ark Armstead.
[37:22] Speaker 1: They're high paid defensive tackle. It was more than their
[37:25] Speaker 1: entire like defensive tackle group.
[37:28] Speaker 5: Okay, I tell you what.
[37:29] Speaker 3: They're not looking at sacks up down there in Jacksonville.
[37:33] Speaker 3: They are looking at pressures. They're looking at proximity quarterback,
[37:37] Speaker 3: They're looking at hurries, They're looking at those types of things.
[37:39] Speaker 2: Mason Smith.
[37:40] Speaker 1: In theory, they would probably want to play nose tackle
[37:43] Speaker 1: in Atlanta and help with the run defense, but Jacksonville
[37:47] Speaker 1: didn't really have any room for him. So just kind
[37:49] Speaker 1: of an interesting challenge trade a reminder all second round picks, Yeah,
[37:53] Speaker 1: they don't work a lot of times. Some first round
[37:55] Speaker 1: picks that have been working. Pete Skronski got his fifth
[37:58] Speaker 1: year option picked up by the Times. Really improved, I
[38:02] Speaker 1: believe at guard last year. And Darnel Wright, who's had
[38:05] Speaker 1: a nice trajectory at tackle for the Bears, his fifth
[38:08] Speaker 1: year option picked up. Chris Ballard the Colts. GM mentioned
[38:11] Speaker 1: that Alec Pearce is overcoming a ankle surgery, which nobody
[38:17] Speaker 1: knew about going at least in the media, didn't know
[38:19] Speaker 1: about going into his free agency period. Interesting timing. They
[38:24] Speaker 1: clearly didn't want to have that surgery at the beginning
[38:26] Speaker 1: of the off season and so that that's a little
[38:28] Speaker 1: disappointing for them. But supposedly he's going to be back.
[38:30] Speaker 1: Pukinakua is at the off season program. It was reported
[38:34] Speaker 1: earlier he was at a rehabilitation center, so he is
[38:37] Speaker 1: now working out with the Rams, and Ian Rappaport said,
[38:40] Speaker 1: Jimmy G could be retiring, something that you've been hinting
[38:43] Speaker 1: at this show as a possibility, just saying like Jimmy
[38:47] Speaker 1: G might not play football this year. Let's wrap up
[38:49] Speaker 1: the news just quickly with just a item. Zachariah Branch,
[38:53] Speaker 1: the Georgia Wide receiver, was arrested over the weekend and
[38:56] Speaker 1: faces charges of obstructing public sidewalks, prowling, and obstructing a
[39:02] Speaker 1: law enforcement officer obstructing a public sidewalk. I was like,
[39:06] Speaker 1: is that something you can be arrested for? It can,
[39:09] Speaker 1: but you only need thirty nine dollars to pay your
[39:11] Speaker 1: bond to get out. I've never seen a bond that low.
[39:15] Speaker 1: And I'll just read a little bit of the police
[39:17] Speaker 1: report here. As revealed by Tom Pelsero NFL Network, a
[39:21] Speaker 1: male later identified as Zacharia Branch continued to stand in
[39:24] Speaker 1: the sidewalk without making an attempt to move. I continued
[39:28] Speaker 1: to give Zacharia Branch verbal commands to move from blocking
[39:31] Speaker 1: the sidewalk and advise that if he did not, he
[39:33] Speaker 1: would receive a citation for blocking the sidewalk. Zach Rya
[39:36] Speaker 1: Branch smirked, then step backwards into the right and remains
[39:40] Speaker 1: standing on the public sidewalk so to obstruct, hinder, or
[39:44] Speaker 1: impede free passage upon the sidewalk.
[39:49] Speaker 2: Due to these actions, he was arrested.
[39:54] Speaker 3: Wow, this seems like a really really good use of
[39:57] Speaker 3: my tax money.
[39:58] Speaker 1: This on one hand, like a lot of people got
[40:01] Speaker 1: off their jokes of like, oh, a smaller guy who
[40:04] Speaker 1: showed off his blocking skills.
[40:05] Speaker 4: On another hand, Francisco Yeah.
[40:07] Speaker 1: On another hand, uh, you know, our friend Adam pointed
[40:10] Speaker 1: out this. This is just standing well black, you know,
[40:13] Speaker 1: and is not expected, according to Mike Garrolfolo, to impact
[40:17] Speaker 1: his draft at all. Probably a Day two pick, maybe
[40:21] Speaker 1: a high Day three pick. Fun player to watch, but
[40:23] Speaker 1: more of a guy that I think teams will be
[40:26] Speaker 1: worried about. Is he just a gadget guy? Kind of
[40:28] Speaker 1: one of those guys. So that's Zachariah Branch just wanted
[40:31] Speaker 1: to hit that before the draft. Let's get into the
[40:33] Speaker 1: ten things we want to see in the draft. We
[40:34] Speaker 1: took a while to get here. No, yes, can't say
[40:38] Speaker 1: I will.
[40:38] Speaker 3: One of my small joys in doing the show is
[40:41] Speaker 3: when you get a really solid.
[40:43] Speaker 4: News day, Oh yeah, let's go it. Just you just
[40:46] Speaker 4: light up from within. Greg. It's just great.
[40:48] Speaker 1: The three day weekend helped. It's a great UCLA men's
[40:52] Speaker 1: volleyball game, Good sport Live with Walker, who's very into
[40:57] Speaker 1: volleyball these days. After mean light hike, all right, you
[41:01] Speaker 1: start out with one of the things you want to see, Jordan.
[41:06] Speaker 3: I want to see it, and I don't know that
[41:07] Speaker 3: it will necessarily be picks for players.
[41:09] Speaker 5: I doubt that all of these will be.
[41:10] Speaker 3: But I do think we're going to see a lot
[41:12] Speaker 3: of movement in the first and second round draft, and
[41:15] Speaker 3: so I would like to see at least four more trades. Okay,
[41:19] Speaker 3: I'm not asking for much, four more. At least four
[41:23] Speaker 3: more trades.
[41:24] Speaker 2: It would have been nice if they waited Lawrence to
[41:26] Speaker 2: the draft.
[41:27] Speaker 3: I know I could have counted that one involving first
[41:30] Speaker 3: round picks, so that also means movement back.
[41:33] Speaker 4: So I think there's like a couple of big no
[41:36] Speaker 4: man's land pockets.
[41:37] Speaker 3: There always is in these drafts, usually ride around those
[41:40] Speaker 3: pickpoints ten or twelve all the way into the end
[41:45] Speaker 3: of the first It could also be teams moving up
[41:47] Speaker 3: to get players out of the second round. So this
[41:50] Speaker 3: is really sort of a general I would like to
[41:52] Speaker 3: see more trades happen. I think this will be a
[41:55] Speaker 3: trade heavy draft. That's what all of the chatter is
[41:58] Speaker 3: right now, coming from the insiders, coming from league people
[42:01] Speaker 3: that I've spoken to. This is going to be a
[42:02] Speaker 3: trade heavy draft, and particularly could be on night one,
[42:07] Speaker 3: and so I would like to see at least four.
[42:09] Speaker 1: I think it could be little ones too, especially the tackles.
[42:12] Speaker 1: I think once you get in there's gonna be little swap,
[42:14] Speaker 1: there's going to be a run. I'm not asking in
[42:16] Speaker 1: the tens and twenties. I'd like to see some big ones.
[42:19] Speaker 1: Adam Schefter among other people. Hey, now, among other people.
[42:23] Speaker 1: Adam Schefter has alluded to the Cardinals wanting to trade down,
[42:28] Speaker 1: but that if they don't trade down, there's increasing belief
[42:31] Speaker 1: in league circles that they could take Jeremiah Love.
[42:36] Speaker 3: The combination they probably listened to our show and heard
[42:38] Speaker 3: me hyping Stundy styles to them, and so now I'm
[42:41] Speaker 3: just kidding.
[42:41] Speaker 1: The combination of that, It's like, yeah, we want Jeremiah Love,
[42:44] Speaker 1: but we want to trade down makes me think like,
[42:46] Speaker 1: do you really want Jeremiah Love or do you want
[42:48] Speaker 1: to take a tackle? And you're throwing that out there.
[42:50] Speaker 1: But there has been a lot.
[42:51] Speaker 4: Of connecting that they the Giants to come up.
[42:54] Speaker 1: There are the other teams that it was reported that
[42:57] Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Cardinals have talked a little bit about
[42:59] Speaker 1: who would the Chiefs be going up for. Maybe it's
[43:04] Speaker 1: it's Rvel Reze or David Bailey just for a pass
[43:06] Speaker 1: rush all the way to three that would make some sense.
[43:09] Speaker 1: There is a lot of talk Andy Reid once an
[43:11] Speaker 1: offensive linemen. Yeah, I think the Cowboys are a candidate
[43:14] Speaker 1: to go up, but not really what they do. They
[43:16] Speaker 1: do have the extra first round pick, and people thought
[43:19] Speaker 1: for what it's worth, Like Daniel Jeremia put this out there,
[43:22] Speaker 1: like the Bengals at ten were kind of in a
[43:24] Speaker 1: tough spot because you know, depending on if one or
[43:28] Speaker 1: no tackles go ahead of them.
[43:31] Speaker 2: I think there's like a it's an eight or nine player.
[43:34] Speaker 1: Draft where people are really excited about those eight or
[43:36] Speaker 1: nine especially for their needs, and they didn't need tackles.
[43:38] Speaker 4: So that's what I mean by no man's land.
[43:40] Speaker 3: So you're gonna hit those desert pockets where you just
[43:43] Speaker 3: feel like, Okay, the best thing I could possibly do
[43:45] Speaker 3: is trade back.
[43:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, I have trades in general as one go.
[43:48] Speaker 1: I'll start off with the Steelers, just getting specific because
[43:51] Speaker 1: there's a few Steelers items, but Steelers Depot and some
[43:56] Speaker 1: other places have been staying that there could be a
[44:00] Speaker 1: possible trade of one of their edges, and so Alex
[44:04] Speaker 1: Heismith Charles Robinson of Yeah Who Sports had this is
[44:06] Speaker 1: the more likely of the two. Nick Herbig would be
[44:09] Speaker 1: the other potential target. It sounds like teams would love
[44:14] Speaker 1: Nick Herbig, but Alex Heismith might be a little more available.
[44:17] Speaker 1: He's gonna be a third contract guy, getting closer to
[44:21] Speaker 1: thirty but still really productive, whereas Nick Herbrig is younger.
[44:25] Speaker 1: I want to see this because they just don't get
[44:27] Speaker 1: her Big on the field enough. It has annoyed me
[44:29] Speaker 1: that one of the best pure pass rushers in the league,
[44:31] Speaker 1: they just like sit him down. I think the Tjatt
[44:34] Speaker 1: contract was not a smart one the way that they
[44:37] Speaker 1: structured that and who they decided to pay there. So,
[44:40] Speaker 1: just because I want to see these edges go elsewhere,
[44:43] Speaker 1: and Alex Heismith is a fun piece, I just would
[44:47] Speaker 1: like to see that happen. If you're not going to
[44:48] Speaker 1: use Herbig, then trade him. I came up with some
[44:50] Speaker 1: teams for them. You want to hear him?
[44:52] Speaker 4: Yeah?
[44:53] Speaker 1: Okay, Philadelphia, Yes, that's pretty strong. We'll get to them
[44:56] Speaker 1: in a second. Carolina think would be a good.
[44:59] Speaker 4: Gest please is it? That's where he came out of, right,
[45:03] Speaker 4: Alex Heismith.
[45:04] Speaker 1: Where did Alex Hismith go to school. I forget the Patriots,
[45:07] Speaker 1: but you know their their pick might be taken by
[45:11] Speaker 1: someone else.
[45:11] Speaker 2: The Titans, I think actually could be in the mix.
[45:13] Speaker 2: The Bucks. There's a lot of teams. Charlotte, good job
[45:16] Speaker 2: by you.
[45:18] Speaker 3: Didn't you The Bucks would be great. I think the
[45:21] Speaker 3: Bucks would be great, you know, sneaky kind of The
[45:23] Speaker 3: Bills maybe would be a good one too. I know
[45:24] Speaker 3: they made the move for Bradley Jump, but they do
[45:26] Speaker 3: still need help there.
[45:28] Speaker 4: He would be a fun play.
[45:28] Speaker 1: A lot of teams need edges like Baltimore. Hey, if
[45:31] Speaker 1: you were going to trade for Max Crosby and you
[45:33] Speaker 1: said you were gonna pair him New Orleans Miami. Actually,
[45:36] Speaker 1: I don't think is a crazy one for Herbig specifically. Yeah,
[45:39] Speaker 1: if they were gonna yeah, if they were gonna invest
[45:42] Speaker 1: on someone long term.
[45:44] Speaker 2: So those are some edges I want to see that. Uh.
[45:47] Speaker 2: There's a lot of talk too.
[45:48] Speaker 1: They might take an offensive lineman the Steelers in the
[45:50] Speaker 1: first round because Broderick Jones, who's had a Star Cross
[45:53] Speaker 1: career as a first round pick, had a set back
[45:55] Speaker 1: with his neck injury, might not be ready for the season,
[45:57] Speaker 1: according to Adam Schefter, also our guy say, Aaron Rodgers.
[46:01] Speaker 1: Remember when the owner said, well, we're not going to
[46:03] Speaker 1: wait around to the draft this time. We expect it
[46:05] Speaker 1: to be in within a month. We're at the draft,
[46:08] Speaker 1: and the reporting now is that they're not going to
[46:10] Speaker 1: hear anything before the draft with Aaron Rodgers.
[46:13] Speaker 4: All looking for the guy who did this.
[46:15] Speaker 3: They also have five picks in the top one hundred
[46:17] Speaker 3: for now. If they trade one of these guys, they
[46:20] Speaker 3: will have more.
[46:20] Speaker 1: They could even get they could even get more. I
[46:23] Speaker 1: want to see it, all right, give me another one.
[46:25] Speaker 3: Another one for me is I am anticipating and very
[46:28] Speaker 3: excited to see, specifically through this draft what power dynamics
[46:33] Speaker 3: start to truly cement themselves in these organizations. We've heard
[46:37] Speaker 3: whispers of and chatter like we mentioned earlier about John
[46:41] Speaker 3: Harbaugh being the one who is going to be making
[46:43] Speaker 3: these picks.
[46:44] Speaker 5: It's obviously a.
[46:45] Speaker 3: Collaborative process, but with Harbaugh having a dominant say in
[46:48] Speaker 3: kind of how he wants to build this team's identity
[46:51] Speaker 3: moving forward in New York, and I'm eager to see
[46:55] Speaker 3: like Kevin O'Connell and in Minnesota, for example, with Brazinski
[47:00] Speaker 3: as the intern GM right now and those two have
[47:04] Speaker 3: a great relationship. But this has a dynamic or a
[47:08] Speaker 3: feel to me of a coach wanting to have just
[47:10] Speaker 3: a little bit more say in the draft operation. The
[47:13] Speaker 3: pictures they've already shared out on their team media department
[47:17] Speaker 3: is of those two specifically sitting next.
[47:20] Speaker 4: To each other in purpose.
[47:21] Speaker 5: Well, they're having a great time.
[47:22] Speaker 3: I do think that, you know, seeing how much power
[47:26] Speaker 3: a new coach in some of these new organizations declarations
[47:29] Speaker 3: of intent as you like to call them, yes, what
[47:31] Speaker 3: those actually look like. And a place, even a place
[47:34] Speaker 3: like you know in Baltimore with an established for an office,
[47:38] Speaker 3: how much, say, will jesse Minter actually have in bringing
[47:42] Speaker 3: in quote unquote his guys or identifying especially understanding that
[47:46] Speaker 3: coaches do not come into the draft process until extremely
[47:50] Speaker 3: late in the scouting process, so you're not necessarily you
[47:55] Speaker 3: would probably opt to lean on an established general man
[48:00] Speaker 3: and infrastructure in that case, but the coach still has
[48:02] Speaker 3: to get his guys that match the scheme. It's not
[48:05] Speaker 3: unheard of that the coach has one idea going into
[48:08] Speaker 3: it and then as OTAs begin, a different plan sort
[48:11] Speaker 3: of starts to take shape, or a better plan or
[48:13] Speaker 3: a better strategy for that season starts to take shape
[48:15] Speaker 3: and then they just have to kind of wait until
[48:17] Speaker 3: the next.
[48:17] Speaker 1: Full and with them, it's going to be hard to
[48:18] Speaker 1: tell the difference because frankly, they were drafting Jesse Minner
[48:21] Speaker 1: players before.
[48:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was there.
[48:22] Speaker 1: The systems weren't too different relatively the types of players. Obviously,
[48:26] Speaker 1: he'll have a say, I think that's going to be
[48:28] Speaker 1: a nice cooperation. Yeah, I did say. I do like
[48:31] Speaker 1: statements of intent with the first so we talked about
[48:33] Speaker 1: the Giants. That was going to be one of mine.
[48:34] Speaker 1: But I'll skip past that because it's very similar Miami,
[48:37] Speaker 1: Las Vegas.
[48:39] Speaker 2: I'd like to say Atlanta Power Dynamic. Yeah, I'd like
[48:42] Speaker 2: to say Atlanta.
[48:43] Speaker 1: Because but they don't have any picks early Tennessee, like
[48:47] Speaker 1: is Borganzi now it's his show for the first time.
[48:50] Speaker 1: So these are some statements of intent, but especially Miami
[48:52] Speaker 1: and the Giants with early picks. I'll do a quick
[48:54] Speaker 1: one then, which is just like I like the post
[48:58] Speaker 1: draft depth charts, you know what I mean to me,
[49:00] Speaker 1: it's just very satisfying that we reach this point of
[49:04] Speaker 1: the off season and it's like, Okay, let's just look
[49:07] Speaker 1: at those babies on our lads.
[49:08] Speaker 2: They're working all weekend.
[49:10] Speaker 1: They're pumping those players into the depth charts. We're doing
[49:13] Speaker 1: a show on Sunday with Ali and I'll just look
[49:15] Speaker 1: at it and it's like, this is what we're working for.
[49:17] Speaker 1: Enough speculation, and I know there's other moves to be
[49:21] Speaker 1: made in the off season, but for the most part,
[49:24] Speaker 1: these are our teams, and I just find that a
[49:26] Speaker 1: very satisfying exercise, the post draft depth charts over the years,
[49:30] Speaker 1: it's just something I'm looking forward to.
[49:32] Speaker 3: Yeah, something I'm looking forward to is more prospect celebration
[49:36] Speaker 3: videos with families.
[49:38] Speaker 5: Especially.
[49:39] Speaker 3: I love to see the moms celebrating with their sons.
[49:43] Speaker 3: It absolutely warms my heart every single year. Good mom
[49:47] Speaker 3: and son content of just the biggest moment possible in
[49:52] Speaker 3: this prospect's life and his family being around him. I
[49:56] Speaker 3: know we put together a supercut of this. You can
[49:58] Speaker 3: see some players if you're watching on YouTube. Some players
[50:01] Speaker 3: really excited with their families, and it's always the most heartwarming,
[50:05] Speaker 3: you know, when the dad breaks down and tears and
[50:08] Speaker 3: just the culmination of a lot of dreams and hopes
[50:11] Speaker 3: and wishes and a lifelong memory. It's just like one
[50:14] Speaker 3: of the most endearing things that can come out of
[50:16] Speaker 3: the draft, and that just injected all into my veins.
[50:19] Speaker 4: I just want all the joy.
[50:21] Speaker 2: I love that.
[50:22] Speaker 1: I'd love seeing them at their houses. I love seeing
[50:25] Speaker 1: the dynamics. Andrew Hawkins had a you know, sometimes a
[50:29] Speaker 1: great one between the girlfriend and the bombs are very interesting,
[50:32] Speaker 1: just sitting where Ceedee Lamb had a famous one where
[50:35] Speaker 1: he had the two phones and the girlfriend takes the
[50:38] Speaker 1: phone away. There was the Titans draft pick. I'm forgetting
[50:42] Speaker 1: who it was that tackle that didn't work out. That
[50:44] Speaker 1: was a classic of the of the genre in general. Though,
[50:48] Speaker 1: like I love those dynamics. We'll see, We'll see what
[50:50] Speaker 1: Fernanda Mendoza is doing. He'll be at home, not going.
[50:54] Speaker 2: To the draft.
[50:54] Speaker 1: All right, Let's let's get to the Eagles in the
[50:57] Speaker 1: in the Chiefs, I decided one of the things I
[51:00] Speaker 1: want to see on draft weekend the plans of the
[51:02] Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty nine teams. And this is where we
[51:05] Speaker 1: can get into the aj Brown of it all. Man
[51:08] Speaker 1: Like these two teams, which on balance have been the
[51:11] Speaker 1: best two organizations this decade the twenty twenties, would be
[51:16] Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the Eagles but kind of coming off
[51:21] Speaker 1: difficult positions now the Chiefs are in the top ten.
[51:24] Speaker 1: Who could they be moving up for. They have three
[51:27] Speaker 1: of the top forty picks because of the McDuffie trades,
[51:29] Speaker 1: are nine twenty nine forty. I think offensive line could
[51:32] Speaker 1: be something there. Cornerbacks certainly curious, like how they get aggressive?
[51:36] Speaker 1: Would they go Jeremiah Love, would they go Jordan Tyson?
[51:39] Speaker 1: We'll see. They're fascinating the Eagles. I don't think they're
[51:43] Speaker 1: depth charts in as bad shape as the Chiefs, but
[51:45] Speaker 1: I would say they have more questions right now than
[51:47] Speaker 1: they normally do. Two offensive linemen threatened to retire this offseason.
[51:51] Speaker 1: Lane Johnson is right towards the end. Landon Dickerson. We'll see.
[51:55] Speaker 1: They have three of the top sixty eight picks because
[51:57] Speaker 1: they have a high third from the Hassan Reddick trade
[52:01] Speaker 1: from a couple of years ago. They have five of
[52:03] Speaker 1: the top one point fifteen. There's a compensatory pick in
[52:06] Speaker 1: there too, so they have a lot of picks. There's
[52:09] Speaker 1: rumors they might want to go to Jonathan Go get
[52:12] Speaker 1: Jonathan Grenard from the Vikings.
[52:14] Speaker 2: That's still out there.
[52:16] Speaker 1: Could they be trading for a wide receiver to replenish
[52:19] Speaker 1: AJ Brown? Could they be trading to move up for
[52:21] Speaker 1: a wide receiver or just drafting a wide receiver to
[52:24] Speaker 1: replenish for AJ Brown. Their offensive line, and I would
[52:27] Speaker 1: say their defensive line is thinner. It's very good overall,
[52:31] Speaker 1: but they're not They don't have stars at the edge,
[52:33] Speaker 1: and it's thinner than before. Like, there's just a lot here,
[52:36] Speaker 1: and that leaves us to AJ Brown. Wait, what do
[52:39] Speaker 1: you make of where we're at in the AJ Brown
[52:43] Speaker 1: news cycle?
[52:44] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[52:44] Speaker 3: Well so okay, So there's been some reporting. First over
[52:48] Speaker 3: the last couple of days, Nate Tice on Football three
[52:50] Speaker 3: oh one, our friend of the show as well, made
[52:53] Speaker 3: some allusions to just hearing some chatter that there was
[52:57] Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing here obviously, that there's sort of an understanding
[53:00] Speaker 3: that this trade is already gonna happen. Adam Schefter and
[53:04] Speaker 3: Jeremy Fowler put out their annual What I'm Hearing before
[53:08] Speaker 3: the Draft or inside what Insiders are saying before the
[53:11] Speaker 3: Draft report? You know, to be clear, I haven't read
[53:14] Speaker 3: it in full, but I do know there's some big
[53:16] Speaker 3: AJ Brown implications.
[53:17] Speaker 1: I read it, and the wording is very funny because
[53:21] Speaker 1: they're not positioning it as news like on their news stack,
[53:27] Speaker 1: and yet a lot of aggregators are taking the actual
[53:31] Speaker 1: words that Adam Schefter said, including he tweeted it out,
[53:34] Speaker 1: I mean, and he literally writes aj Brown is likely
[53:39] Speaker 1: to become a Patriot, and for that to come from
[53:41] Speaker 1: Adam Schefter to me is news it's still on track
[53:46] Speaker 1: to happen after June first, per league source.
[53:50] Speaker 3: Still on track is interesting phrasing to me, because that
[53:52] Speaker 3: would mean that it would have been previously established as
[53:55] Speaker 3: being on track.
[53:56] Speaker 1: He puts all these caveats in here, almost apparently trying
[54:01] Speaker 1: to avoid the league being upset that this has worked out,
[54:04] Speaker 1: because that's not like how post June first stuff is
[54:07] Speaker 1: exactly how it's supposed to work, or the team's being
[54:10] Speaker 1: upset because they're just trying to stay quiet about And
[54:13] Speaker 1: then the actual wording as he goes on is not
[54:16] Speaker 1: as strong. It's like, remain highly interested. It's possible another
[54:19] Speaker 1: team could get in the mix, but to be clear,
[54:22] Speaker 1: the Patriots are very interested and restarting those negotiations after
[54:27] Speaker 1: June first. It sure sounds like a deal is going
[54:31] Speaker 1: to happen, and that there's more of an understanding than
[54:35] Speaker 1: is being reported. I've never seen a story quite like this,
[54:38] Speaker 1: where everyone is expecting something very specific to happen that's
[54:43] Speaker 1: massive news, and yet no one's exactly reporting it, so
[54:47] Speaker 1: I'm just assuming it's going to happen.
[54:49] Speaker 3: I will say, you do see this with coaching hires
[54:54] Speaker 3: and the hiring cycles too, where people are positioned as
[54:58] Speaker 3: the favorite O they have to go through a couple
[55:01] Speaker 3: of other steps in the process.
[55:02] Speaker 2: It's almost like a Rooney Rule thing, but an AJ
[55:04] Speaker 2: Brown trade.
[55:05] Speaker 3: Which is like, it's a similar vibe that I get
[55:07] Speaker 3: from all of this, frankly of like the Okay, yeah,
[55:11] Speaker 3: we already know what we're gonna do, but just you know,
[55:15] Speaker 3: just wait because there's some steps.
[55:16] Speaker 2: As a podcaster, how should we handle it?
[55:18] Speaker 1: I feel like we should almost just talk about AJ
[55:20] Speaker 1: Brown's on the Patriots and what that means now, But
[55:22] Speaker 1: I guess we can't.
[55:23] Speaker 3: I just think perhaps your own excitement about this might
[55:28] Speaker 3: be taking.
[55:29] Speaker 2: No a little bit.
[55:30] Speaker 1: You don't think I'd be excited to talk about A J.
[55:32] Speaker 1: Brown going to any team. I'm actually just a little
[55:35] Speaker 1: wary of.
[55:36] Speaker 4: You be a little as a Patriots fan.
[55:38] Speaker 3: I just think you're just excited to just, you know,
[55:41] Speaker 3: get this conversation going.
[55:43] Speaker 1: No I'm just a news guy. I'm a little wary
[55:45] Speaker 1: of it. I think they'll probably.
[55:46] Speaker 4: The news guy, I mean, the humble newsman.
[55:50] Speaker 1: It's an annoying thing to have to talk around for
[55:52] Speaker 1: a month and a half. But I the most telling
[55:55] Speaker 1: of all these where Jeff Darlington got on ESPN. He
[55:58] Speaker 1: said the Eagles are operating in this draft as if
[56:01] Speaker 1: A J.
[56:01] Speaker 2: Brown's not on the.
[56:02] Speaker 1: Team, because they have to because there's a possibility that
[56:04] Speaker 1: he's not on the team. But then I was like,
[56:05] Speaker 1: if Jeff Darlington specifically is reporting this and he does
[56:08] Speaker 1: a great job, but he's not trying to break news,
[56:10] Speaker 1: it's like it's happening that I just feel, well, it's happening.
[56:16] Speaker 3: They've been operating before the draft. I mean, they went
[56:19] Speaker 3: got receivers like they you know, they're they're building the aggregate,
[56:23] Speaker 3: right like that's you know, that's they've been operating like this.
[56:26] Speaker 2: I think the A J.
[56:27] Speaker 1: Brown is very similar to Dexter Lawrence in the way
[56:30] Speaker 1: that I don't think it's a great overall team building approach.
[56:33] Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna have to give a pick
[56:34] Speaker 1: that's that high. Maybe it's a pick next year. But
[56:37] Speaker 1: I also think they'll get like a probably a really
[56:40] Speaker 1: great honeymoon year that they're happy with, and then long
[56:43] Speaker 1: term like it. It might not be something you look
[56:45] Speaker 1: back on as like the best move, but but you
[56:47] Speaker 1: get a short term bump and a long term hit.
[56:50] Speaker 2: I don't know, A J. Brown wasn't like amazing last year,
[56:52] Speaker 2: but he is still a J. Brown. All right, Let's
[56:54] Speaker 2: let's fly through the rest of them.
[56:55] Speaker 3: Yes, well, for number eight, I would like to see
[56:59] Speaker 3: for Nan Mendoza hit us with a swear word. You know,
[57:02] Speaker 3: he's going to be joining the Las Vegas Raiders. I'd
[57:05] Speaker 3: really just lets effing go. You know, I'm efing fired up.
[57:09] Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't have to be that one.
[57:11] Speaker 4: It could be a.
[57:12] Speaker 3: Number of colorful choices he could potentially pick. I would
[57:16] Speaker 3: just like to see him. I would just like to
[57:19] Speaker 3: see a little him come out of a shell a
[57:21] Speaker 3: little bit a lot Kirk Cousins who also happens to
[57:23] Speaker 3: be on that roster.
[57:24] Speaker 1: Speaking of Nate Tyson, I really like that he interviewed Mendoza,
[57:28] Speaker 1: Nate tasted, and Nate shared that after the interview, Mendoza
[57:35] Speaker 1: asked Nate for what he thinks he should get better at.
[57:38] Speaker 1: What Nate thinks Mendoza needs to work on and then
[57:42] Speaker 1: he was like oh, and he was like it was clear.
[57:45] Speaker 1: Then Nate realized like he had done his homework. Nate, Nate,
[57:48] Speaker 1: you know a quarterback kind of guy that makes me happy,
[57:51] Speaker 1: but also that like you know, he's studying for these
[57:53] Speaker 1: different interviews of like who is this guy interviewing me?
[57:56] Speaker 1: And that he wants to hear he wants to get
[57:58] Speaker 1: better in any way possible, So he's asking I like that.
[58:01] Speaker 5: I like that knowing can pick.
[58:03] Speaker 3: I can picture what Nate's reaction to that would be,
[58:05] Speaker 3: which would be like totally disarmed, caught off guard, never
[58:09] Speaker 3: expecting it, even though anybody should be asking Nate for
[58:13] Speaker 3: feedback on how to He's one of the best in
[58:16] Speaker 3: the game. It's just I can picture him being like,
[58:19] Speaker 3: who me? You know, it's just a very endearing about him.
[58:23] Speaker 1: Bet he had a good answer to things to work on.
[58:27] Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a little bit under understand.
[58:30] Speaker 4: This is my note.
[58:31] Speaker 3: As you know obviously you know my my note is
[58:34] Speaker 3: typic is just as advanced.
[58:35] Speaker 1: Analyis's swear words between him and Kirk Cousins. There, you know,
[58:41] Speaker 1: two two peas in a pod. Here's one thing I
[58:45] Speaker 1: want to see on draft weak and everyone to be wrong.
[58:48] Speaker 2: Just in general. I like it.
[58:50] Speaker 1: Everyone takes the mock so seriously. We have so much
[58:53] Speaker 1: information this, that and the other, and then for the
[58:56] Speaker 1: most part, they don't hit it and any of it,
[59:00] Speaker 1: and there's like no particular accountability. It's just like when
[59:05] Speaker 1: it goes really well, the rare years that someone was
[59:07] Speaker 1: really on top of a lot of things, then you're
[59:09] Speaker 1: just like, hey, I nailed it. But there is something
[59:12] Speaker 1: to me because I'm keeping track of like just seeing
[59:14] Speaker 1: everyone who is so confident about like they were doing this,
[59:17] Speaker 1: they were doing this, and then none of it happens.
[59:20] Speaker 1: Maybe this makes me a small person figuratively in addition
[59:24] Speaker 1: to literally, or a contrarian or a hater, they might say,
[59:29] Speaker 1: but I enjoy that.
[59:30] Speaker 2: When it comes to draft weekend.
[59:32] Speaker 4: Do you have any specific receipdus I do.
[59:33] Speaker 1: I would say, like mcshae Todd mcshagh, I'm specifically rooting
[59:37] Speaker 1: against him in general. I would say this year because
[59:41] Speaker 1: he came after our guy, Aldi Connolly. First of all,
[59:44] Speaker 1: I noticed that last week Micshay on like Thursday says
[59:50] Speaker 1: that he'd be shocked if David Bailey doesn't go to
[59:53] Speaker 1: the Jets, and then by Saturday he's saying, I think
[59:56] Speaker 1: Arvel Reese is going to the Jets like that this
[59:58] Speaker 1: is the type of like information gathering that changes so
[1:00:01] Speaker 1: much and doesn't have like a ton of value. But
[1:00:04] Speaker 1: he went after Ali, calling Ali like a ridiculous word
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: for just reporting the news on Reuben Bain, for literally
[1:00:14] Speaker 1: reporting police reports that are out there, for publicly saying
[1:00:18] Speaker 1: police reports as if it was some sort of hit piece.
[1:00:22] Speaker 1: And I think Ali explained it really well in our show.
[1:00:23] Speaker 1: I don't need to defend Ali of like, of course
[1:00:25] Speaker 1: why it's newsworthy, even if a lot of teams knew
[1:00:29] Speaker 1: about it, like the general public didn't know about it,
[1:00:32] Speaker 1: and a lot of people didn't know certain things, and
[1:00:33] Speaker 1: teams do have questions if he's been transparent throughout the process,
[1:00:37] Speaker 1: and if there's anything else behind jordanam too.
[1:00:38] Speaker 2: That's all sort of behind the point.
[1:00:40] Speaker 1: I think it really reflects on your own character if
[1:00:43] Speaker 1: you're not like looking into the person that's doing this
[1:00:47] Speaker 1: and you're getting upset about someone just reporting the news
[1:00:52] Speaker 1: because you think what it may hurt their draft stock, Like.
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: Who are we defending here? All the teams knows you
[1:01:00] Speaker 2: can't be on both sides.
[1:01:01] Speaker 1: If all the teams know and it's not affecting their
[1:01:05] Speaker 1: draft stock, what exactly would you be mad at in
[1:01:07] Speaker 1: the first place, you're saying it's a nothing burger, right.
[1:01:10] Speaker 1: The whole reaction to Ali's reporting bothered me a lot,
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: and I honestly wasn't aware about it until on Friday
[1:01:17] Speaker 1: or Thursday night when we're like done taping this. I
[1:01:20] Speaker 1: was I was told about these comments. Give me a break.
[1:01:22] Speaker 3: Also, just my general advice to like any adults, especially
[1:01:27] Speaker 3: like a grown man, just like, you know, go reach
[1:01:30] Speaker 3: out to the person you're fitting on top, you know,
[1:01:32] Speaker 3: like pick up the phone.
[1:01:33] Speaker 1: Well, it's clear like he didn't really look into the situation,
[1:01:36] Speaker 1: and like that shows the type of lack of character
[1:01:38] Speaker 1: that you're accusing the other person of going after someone's character.
[1:01:43] Speaker 2: That's it.
[1:01:44] Speaker 1: That's ten things. You got nine amazing, We might have
[1:01:49] Speaker 1: to do a lot.
[1:01:51] Speaker 5: Nine kind of came out of you.
[1:01:53] Speaker 3: Maybe you know you okay, alternate ego there, okay, mine.
[1:01:58] Speaker 3: I can't wait to see the middle round surfers kind
[1:02:01] Speaker 3: of take over on day two and day three. These
[1:02:03] Speaker 3: are teams that have frequently picked pretty well in the
[1:02:06] Speaker 3: middle rounds regardless of the number of picks. They also
[1:02:09] Speaker 3: often turn a lot of a few middle round picks
[1:02:12] Speaker 3: into more middle round picks. These are the forty nine Ers,
[1:02:16] Speaker 3: the Rams, the Ravens, the Jaguars, the Dolphins, even the Jets.
[1:02:20] Speaker 4: I'm excited to.
[1:02:21] Speaker 3: See what Darren Moogie does with some of this, like
[1:02:25] Speaker 3: middle round surfing and a lot of picks at their disposal.
[1:02:27] Speaker 4: And moving up and moving back.
[1:02:29] Speaker 3: And I love the point where, like the trackers, the
[1:02:32] Speaker 3: draft trackers get so ahead of the broadcast and all
[1:02:36] Speaker 3: you hear is the little trade ding going off, and
[1:02:39] Speaker 3: you just know that some chaos is happening, and all
[1:02:42] Speaker 3: of a sudden it pops up onto your screen that
[1:02:43] Speaker 3: this team that was supposed to be picking a few
[1:02:46] Speaker 3: picks later is actually picking now, and maybe they're leapfrogging
[1:02:49] Speaker 3: to get a guy that they like, or maybe they're
[1:02:51] Speaker 3: moving back. I just love all of the permutations of
[1:02:53] Speaker 3: the middle round surfing that happens.
[1:02:55] Speaker 1: I think that Falcons are going to be really active
[1:02:57] Speaker 1: because they're going to be trying to pick up extra picks.
[1:02:59] Speaker 1: The just because they have so many picks and are
[1:03:01] Speaker 1: probably willing to kick some into next year. Are going
[1:03:03] Speaker 1: to be super active. The Eagles we talked about are
[1:03:05] Speaker 1: going to be super axritty niners.
[1:03:07] Speaker 4: Their picks all stop in the fourth.
[1:03:08] Speaker 1: Round, so they're gonna have to try to pick up
[1:03:10] Speaker 1: some more. I do love that stuff too. That is ten,
[1:03:13] Speaker 1: and yet I didn't get to go eleven. Do eleven.
[1:03:16] Speaker 1: We have a whole graphic that says ten things we
[1:03:18] Speaker 1: want to see. You know we're gonna have to change that. Well,
[1:03:21] Speaker 1: this is just a free one. D'Angelo Pons after Daniel
[1:03:25] Speaker 1: Jeremiah talked about him on a show that you're going
[1:03:27] Speaker 1: to hear on Tuesday, our final forties of free agents
[1:03:31] Speaker 1: before the draft, he puts D'Angelo Pons, the cornerback from Indiana,
[1:03:36] Speaker 1: into his top fifty. He compared him in a way
[1:03:39] Speaker 1: to Jalen Hurts, a guy that throughout the whole process
[1:03:42] Speaker 1: he didn't have in his top fifty, and then at
[1:03:45] Speaker 1: the very end he's just like, this player is so good,
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: there's something so much about him. I gotta at least
[1:03:50] Speaker 1: put him in my top fifty. And so I remember
[1:03:52] Speaker 1: that with DJ where at the last second he put
[1:03:54] Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, even though it didn't make a lot of
[1:03:56] Speaker 1: sense into his top fifty and this guy is fascinating. Yes,
[1:04:01] Speaker 1: am I going to root for an undersized player a
[1:04:03] Speaker 1: little extra than other people?
[1:04:05] Speaker 2: Of course?
[1:04:06] Speaker 1: Five eight, one seventy four at cornerback, and I think
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: what heat is going to test is just like how
[1:04:13] Speaker 1: much can the size really matter? Because a lot of
[1:04:16] Speaker 1: teams really believe they have hard rules at cornerback specifically.
[1:04:21] Speaker 1: And it took DJ talking about him and then Ali
[1:04:24] Speaker 1: and John Ledierre talking about him a lot too on
[1:04:26] Speaker 1: the read optional that made me want to watch him.
[1:04:27] Speaker 1: And I watched the tape against Denzel Boston specifically, like
[1:04:31] Speaker 1: Denzel Boston's one of the best vertical, you know, contested
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: catch guys in the league, and there's the Angelo Ponds
[1:04:36] Speaker 1: out there doing a job against him. His tape is crazy.
[1:04:39] Speaker 1: If you're into the draft and you haven't watched him yet,
[1:04:42] Speaker 1: it took me until this weekend to watch him. I mean,
[1:04:44] Speaker 1: he's no question, one of the top three cornerbacks in
[1:04:47] Speaker 1: the draft, and his tape is as electric, I would say,
[1:04:50] Speaker 1: as the top two. But he's five eight and one
[1:04:53] Speaker 1: seventy four. But he went up against Jeremiah Smith, against
[1:04:56] Speaker 1: all these great players, and so I'm just curious. I'm
[1:04:58] Speaker 1: now tracking his career, and I'm curious what the NFL
[1:05:01] Speaker 1: thinks of him too, because, like I think his film
[1:05:03] Speaker 1: would tell you he's a first round pick. Like if
[1:05:05] Speaker 1: you just ignore the height, I get that he's probably
[1:05:08] Speaker 1: not going to go in the first round because of that,
[1:05:09] Speaker 1: but like, is he gonna.
[1:05:10] Speaker 2: Get totally killed because of it?
[1:05:13] Speaker 1: To me, he's just a fun player I'm going to
[1:05:15] Speaker 1: be rooting for. So yeah.
[1:05:16] Speaker 3: I love that about the draft is when these guys
[1:05:19] Speaker 3: that you just really there's something just that little extra
[1:05:23] Speaker 3: edge to them, or there's something about their profile or
[1:05:25] Speaker 3: their character or the way that they play or just
[1:05:28] Speaker 3: that pops to you and you're sort of just attached
[1:05:30] Speaker 3: to them. You're now on their team.
[1:05:32] Speaker 1: In this case, it's just that he's small, and other
[1:05:34] Speaker 1: than that, he's electric and he's not old.
[1:05:36] Speaker 2: He's super athletic.
[1:05:39] Speaker 1: You know, some of these guys didn't work out over
[1:05:41] Speaker 1: the years, certainly not old Mike Sandrusilla got drafted pretty high.
[1:05:45] Speaker 1: You know, he's not coming off a good year. But
[1:05:47] Speaker 1: I think Ponds is even better. I'm just saying he's
[1:05:49] Speaker 1: not like a guy that would be dinged for being
[1:05:51] Speaker 1: like twenty four or twenty five, Like he's a young player.
[1:05:54] Speaker 2: Very athletic.
[1:05:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, great, vertical leap too making up for it. I
[1:05:58] Speaker 1: think he had like six among all players or something
[1:06:01] Speaker 1: like that. That's it, we did it as we go.
[1:06:04] Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like put this weird Detroit Lions tweet up.
[1:06:07] Speaker 1: I'm surprising you with this one that they sent out
[1:06:10] Speaker 1: on Monday morning. For some reason, the Detroit Lions are
[1:06:14] Speaker 1: tweeting like a wide receiver. Live your life with no
[1:06:17] Speaker 1: regret because tomorrow is not promised.
[1:06:20] Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions sent.
[1:06:21] Speaker 4: Out I think Dexter Lawrence put that on a post it.
[1:06:24] Speaker 1: What do you think that was an admin signed into
[1:06:28] Speaker 1: the wrong account. But now they just got to live
[1:06:31] Speaker 1: with it. As the Lions. No, they're going to make
[1:06:33] Speaker 1: some big trades. They're just trying to get people.
[1:06:35] Speaker 4: One point five million views.
[1:06:36] Speaker 3: This has all the makings of a copycat attempt on
[1:06:39] Speaker 3: the PF Chain's tweet.
[1:06:41] Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, just like blind tweeting.
[1:06:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, Detroit Lions admin, are you okay?
[1:06:49] Speaker 5: I like call me if you're not. It's we'll get
[1:06:52] Speaker 5: through this.
[1:06:53] Speaker 1: I do see grown men, sometimes older than me or
[1:06:56] Speaker 1: around my age, tweeting like this often too, just like
[1:06:59] Speaker 1: little little shots out into the ether that you don't
[1:07:02] Speaker 1: even know what nobody knows what they're about.
[1:07:04] Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen a couple of recently.
[1:07:06] Speaker 2: Let's grow up.
[1:07:07] Speaker 1: Let's talk about our next show, Forties and free Agents,
[1:07:11] Speaker 1: final one before the Draft. This is where I put
[1:07:13] Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah on the clock and give them the hardest
[1:07:15] Speaker 1: hitting questions, rapid fire, and we go through a number
[1:07:19] Speaker 1: of late situations.
[1:07:20] Speaker 2: Our last show.
[1:07:21] Speaker 1: Before the Draft is gonna be my mock Draft with
[1:07:23] Speaker 1: Patrick Clayband.
[1:07:24] Speaker 2: That'll be coming up on Wednesday. Until then, Jordan, you'll
[1:07:27] Speaker 1: See her next Thursday night live on YouTube.

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