# 13 Things We Learned at OTAs: A New Jalen Hurts (?), Daniel Jones' Timeline and the Worst Presser Question of the Year

An episode of [NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/680904259), 28 May 2026, 36 min.

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Gregg Rosenthal and Nick Shook get you caught up on everything they learned from OTAs around the NFL including Jalen Hurts talking about a new look to the Eagles offense, Lamar Jackson's future with the Ravens, Kyler Murray and J.J. McCarthy battling for the Vikings QB1 spot, Daniel Jones' status for the Colts and more! NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:04] Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where nothing can replace the greatness
[0:08] Speaker 1: that Nick Schook and I have achieved together. That's my
[0:11] Speaker 1: partner here on this Thursday, running through all the things
[0:15] Speaker 1: we've learned on a busy week of organized team activities.
[0:19] Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal. This is NFL Daily. I'm in my garage.
[0:22] Speaker 1: It's going to be our last news update of the week,
[0:25] Speaker 1: but we do have a big ranking show dropping on Friday.
[0:28] Speaker 1: Good to see they didn't call you for jury duty yet,
[0:31] Speaker 1: Nick Shook.
[0:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, still got two more days, but so far, so good.
[0:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I might have just been talking
[0:37] Speaker 1: to a wall today if you could make it. But
[0:40] Speaker 1: luckily I've got you to talk about. Yes, AJ brown
[0:44] Speaker 1: a little bit. We got some fun stuff in this show,
[0:46] Speaker 1: Little Jackson, Dart update, Lamar, a lot of weird Jim
[0:49] Speaker 1: Harbaughs sound. But we do start with Jalen Hurts and
[0:53] Speaker 1: the Eagles. I thought it was interesting the wording that
[0:57] Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts use to talk about his teammate AJ Browning.
[1:04] Speaker 1: How would affect the off? How that affects me?
[1:12] Speaker 3: Picked the writer question to sip on up. No, I
[1:16] Speaker 3: think for us, you know, we're focused on learning the offense.
[1:21] Speaker 3: It really doesn't change in terms of our approach to improve.
[1:24] Speaker 3: You know, there's a if obviously been lingering a lingering thing,
[1:30] Speaker 3: but you know, none can replace all the greatness that
[1:33] Speaker 3: we achieve together.
[1:34] Speaker 1: Definitely, speaking in the past sense, they're not a surprise,
[1:40] Speaker 1: but a J. Brown has not been there at OTA's
[1:43] Speaker 1: and just the fact that Jalen Hurts is addressing this
[1:46] Speaker 1: publicly in such a way, you know, makes it feel
[1:50] Speaker 1: a little more certain that than ever before. For what
[1:52] Speaker 1: it's worth in rapaport or we're going to get to
[1:54] Speaker 1: his reporting on the matter in just a second. Said, Hey,
[1:57] Speaker 1: they're they're good personally. I think from a football perspective,
[2:00] Speaker 1: maybe they're not so good there, but personally they're good.
[2:04] Speaker 4: That's always a tough distinction to make because in this
[2:07] Speaker 4: professional world of football, those two things bleed into each other,
[2:11] Speaker 4: especially in the regular season, and it really at this
[2:14] Speaker 4: point in the off season. You get your little break
[2:16] Speaker 4: in June, but then you come back and you know,
[2:18] Speaker 4: everything crosses over because that's your lives that you share together.
[2:21] Speaker 2: And I don't know if I agree with the whole footballer.
[2:25] Speaker 4: JJ Brown's a hell of a receiver, and I feel
[2:27] Speaker 4: like maybe it was on the Eagles to try to
[2:29] Speaker 4: figure out a way to maximize it, but they couldn't
[2:31] Speaker 4: figure out a way to get their offense going consistently
[2:33] Speaker 4: basically every other year over the last three or four years,
[2:35] Speaker 4: and I think that's probably priority number one, and not
[2:38] Speaker 4: having aj Brown part of the equation is it puts
[2:41] Speaker 4: them in the best position to move forward as a
[2:44] Speaker 4: cohesive unit as opposed to one that's constantly fighting the
[2:47] Speaker 4: drama of not getting him enough targets, which, hey, I'd
[2:50] Speaker 4: feed him the football.
[2:51] Speaker 1: But I understand here's the thing about what Jalen Hurd
[2:55] Speaker 1: said there, He's right. I mean AJ Brown never been
[2:59] Speaker 1: an All Pro receiver before he joined the Eagles. He
[3:02] Speaker 1: made the second team All Pro three straight years. He
[3:05] Speaker 1: had over fourteen hundred and fifty yards in the regular
[3:08] Speaker 1: seasons and back to back seasons with Jalen Hurts throwing
[3:11] Speaker 1: him the ball. Jalen Hurts is so good throwing the
[3:13] Speaker 1: ball down the field. Their marriage was incredible. I will
[3:15] Speaker 1: never forget the catch that AJ Brown had in the
[3:19] Speaker 1: Super Bowl that they lost against the Chiefs, and really
[3:21] Speaker 1: that performance in general in the playoffs and especially that game,
[3:25] Speaker 1: and then obviously huge factor for when they do win
[3:28] Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So yeah, not everything can last forever.
[3:33] Speaker 1: The question is how long does a j Brown spot
[3:36] Speaker 1: on the roster last into the offseason. The idea is that, Okay,
[3:39] Speaker 1: June First hits, then there's less of a cap hit
[3:42] Speaker 1: when you trade him. Our friend Ian, who appeared with
[3:47] Speaker 1: Adam Schefter talk about breaking barriers here on mcafeel on
[3:52] Speaker 1: Primetime the other night It's a new world We're living in,
[3:55] Speaker 1: reported on our air NFL network that it might not
[3:59] Speaker 1: be so simple as a quick trade to the Patriots
[4:02] Speaker 1: as far as.
[4:02] Speaker 5: The actual trade though. You know, we're all waiting for
[4:06] Speaker 5: June first to happen. So the cap hit is in
[4:08] Speaker 5: half for the Philadelphia Egos and they could trade them.
[4:11] Speaker 5: I just don't know that it's going to be like
[4:12] Speaker 5: snap your fingers and the deal is done. Because the
[4:15] Speaker 5: two sides are where they have been, which is the
[4:17] Speaker 5: Eagles wanting a first round pick in twenty twenty seven,
[4:20] Speaker 5: Patriots the most likely destination. We'll see if someone else arises,
[4:23] Speaker 5: but Patriots the most likely destination. Not being willing to
[4:27] Speaker 5: give up a first round pick as of right now.
[4:30] Speaker 5: That means they're not particularly close. And yeah, there's a
[4:33] Speaker 5: chance this could drag on for the foreseeable future.
[4:37] Speaker 1: Zuck. You know I'm going to be leaving for Japan
[4:40] Speaker 1: at some point. You'll be filling in on some of
[4:41] Speaker 1: those shows. You're going to be writing articles. I'm sure
[4:44] Speaker 1: throughout the summer when you're around, this thing could continue.
[4:48] Speaker 1: It is interesting they're still playing it out in the
[4:50] Speaker 1: media of like the Patriots will not give up a
[4:52] Speaker 1: first round pick. It is still a little bit of
[4:54] Speaker 1: a staring match right now.
[4:56] Speaker 4: I like you subtly predicting how frustrated I'm going to
[4:58] Speaker 4: get with the AJ Brown storyline, but time we get
[5:00] Speaker 4: to July, because it's very true, it's going to drag on.
[5:02] Speaker 4: We're going to update inch by inch as it progresses.
[5:05] Speaker 4: But I also understand the current landscape between getting rid
[5:10] Speaker 4: of AJ Brown because you know you need to part
[5:11] Speaker 4: ways with them and actually maximizing your return on him.
[5:14] Speaker 4: And I think it's going to get interesting. I know
[5:16] Speaker 4: we talked about this on the show last week, that
[5:18] Speaker 4: another team. I think we'll get involved, and maybe it's
[5:21] Speaker 4: just a bidding more at that point, but I don't
[5:22] Speaker 4: think it's a simple you know, make a deal with
[5:24] Speaker 4: the Patriots as soon as we hit June. And I
[5:27] Speaker 4: think that's smarter than the part of Ali Roseman, who
[5:29] Speaker 4: always makes smart decisions, even when it comes with partying
[5:31] Speaker 4: with one of the in my opinion, one of the
[5:32] Speaker 4: better receivers in the NFL.
[5:34] Speaker 1: Yet, no reason why they can't kick it into training camp,
[5:36] Speaker 1: even it really could last that long, because then an
[5:39] Speaker 1: injury could pop up, and that's going to help their situation.
[5:41] Speaker 1: The Chiefs, did you know move money around in George
[5:44] Speaker 1: Gloftis's contract? Could that be opening up some room for
[5:47] Speaker 1: a j Brown? Probably not, because they have to do
[5:49] Speaker 1: more to make that happen. This was potentially just to
[5:52] Speaker 1: get their their rookie sign. They are very tight to
[5:55] Speaker 1: the cap. Jalen Hurts also had some new quotes on
[5:59] Speaker 1: the offense, and I thought it was interesting. He was
[6:02] Speaker 1: asked about the West Coast attack and he said, from
[6:05] Speaker 1: a past game standpoint, as things have evolved, we were
[6:07] Speaker 1: very one on one dependent. Now we're trying, you know,
[6:11] Speaker 1: just trying to find a matchup instead of full flow
[6:15] Speaker 1: West Coast reading the field offense like the way he
[6:20] Speaker 1: said that, because it does indicate a level of buy
[6:23] Speaker 1: in from Hurts.
[6:24] Speaker 4: What was our biggest criticism of Jalen Hurts over the
[6:27] Speaker 4: last couple of years it was that he often stood
[6:29] Speaker 4: in the pocket trying to find and wait for the
[6:31] Speaker 4: perfect throw instead of just taking what the defense gives him.
[6:34] Speaker 4: That is not the philosophy of the West Coast system.
[6:36] Speaker 4: The West Coast system is all about timing. It's pre
[6:38] Speaker 4: snap reads, it's getting the ball out and getting it
[6:41] Speaker 4: to the guy that's designed to be open.
[6:42] Speaker 2: It's a It really encourages me.
[6:43] Speaker 4: I think this can actually really opened up the Eagles
[6:45] Speaker 4: offense even without aj Brown in the mix, because it'll
[6:48] Speaker 4: capitalize on Hurt's accurate passing abilities, his ability to get
[6:51] Speaker 4: the ball out on time, instead of putting him in
[6:52] Speaker 4: a box where he's got to try to find the
[6:55] Speaker 4: perfect throw, which is his problem. Like that's not a
[6:57] Speaker 4: design of the offense, but that's often his problem, especially
[6:59] Speaker 4: when you're suck and one on ones as you're waiting
[7:01] Speaker 4: for one of those guys to get open. Instead, it's
[7:03] Speaker 4: all about the way that the whole pass is designed,
[7:06] Speaker 4: the way the patterns are designed. I think it's going
[7:08] Speaker 4: to maximize his abilities and maybe finally lift the Eagles
[7:10] Speaker 4: out of this rut that they've been stuck in pretty
[7:12] Speaker 4: much every other year. So I'm really excited to see
[7:14] Speaker 4: how this is all you know, put into motion here
[7:17] Speaker 4: in Philadelphia.
[7:18] Speaker 1: Deels like a test run, and if Hurts doesn't pass it,
[7:20] Speaker 1: who knows, he might be on a different team. I
[7:22] Speaker 1: think his biggest issue just hasn't been willing or able
[7:25] Speaker 1: to run nearly as much. Just hasn't especially last year.
[7:28] Speaker 1: Was just not an asset in terms.
[7:29] Speaker 6: Of his life.
[7:30] Speaker 4: Well, he likes to float. He likes to float. He
[7:31] Speaker 4: doesn't like that should take off. He likes to float.
[7:33] Speaker 1: He's twenty seven years old, like he should not be
[7:36] Speaker 1: slowing down that much. If for whatever reason he got
[7:39] Speaker 1: hurt this year or just wasn't playing well, they got
[7:43] Speaker 1: two options behind him and just wanted to pass along that.
[7:46] Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and Tanner McKee are sharing the second team
[7:50] Speaker 1: reps there in Philadelphia, so a little bit of a
[7:52] Speaker 1: backup quarterback competition. More on one of those later on. First,
[7:56] Speaker 1: let's go to the Giants, same division. Jackson Dark addressed
[8:01] Speaker 1: the entire team, according to Mike Garafolo on our show
[8:05] Speaker 1: The Insiders on NFL Network, that he wanted to really
[8:10] Speaker 1: clear the air after his introduction of President Donald Trump
[8:15] Speaker 1: over the weekend, got a lot of attention, and then
[8:18] Speaker 1: Abdul Carter came at him on Twitter then said it
[8:20] Speaker 1: was all fine. According to our insiders, multiple Giants leaders
[8:25] Speaker 1: did speak at this. One of the big takeaways was
[8:29] Speaker 1: handle this stuff privately, not publicly. Well, it still got
[8:33] Speaker 1: out publicly, but it does feel like, okay, they handled
[8:37] Speaker 1: it as men and we're moving on.
[8:41] Speaker 4: It's so John Harbaugh of them, by the way, to
[8:44] Speaker 4: handle it internally and not let those things bleed out
[8:46] Speaker 4: into the public. So if Giants fans are looking for
[8:49] Speaker 4: any sliver of positivity to come from this whole, I
[8:53] Speaker 4: don't even know what you call this spectacle whatever this
[8:55] Speaker 4: is incident. It's the fact that the Giants aren't the dysfunctional,
[9:00] Speaker 4: messy let everything leak out of the public organization that
[9:02] Speaker 4: they've been over the last few years, at least so far.
[9:05] Speaker 1: Okay, that's a fair it's a fair comeback that they
[9:08] Speaker 1: did handle what was I believe a very minor issue
[9:11] Speaker 1: that was never gonna be an issue. But good on
[9:14] Speaker 1: the good little test to address it, little test run.
[9:16] Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is back at ravens OTAs. We mentioned that
[9:21] Speaker 1: with Patrick on Wednesday's show, he was asked about his
[9:27] Speaker 1: lingering contract situation. So he's gonna be a free agent
[9:29] Speaker 1: about a year and a half because of the way
[9:31] Speaker 1: they moved around his restructure this offseason. He has doue
[9:35] Speaker 1: something like seventy five eighty five million dollars in terms
[9:37] Speaker 1: of a cap number next year. That sounds untenable for
[9:41] Speaker 1: the Ravens. So it's a good leverage position for Lamar
[9:45] Speaker 1: Jackson's representative, who happens to be Lamar Jackson doesn't have
[9:50] Speaker 1: an agent. Let's hear from Lamar in front of the media.
[9:53] Speaker 7: I was thinking about how I was gonna respond in
[9:54] Speaker 7: this question if I got it. But you know, I'm
[9:58] Speaker 7: gonna give you the same. That's always good now, But
[10:01] Speaker 7: now I just want to keep them those conversations. Probably
[10:03] Speaker 7: you know, we you know, we restructured the deal and
[10:08] Speaker 7: that's what we have right now.
[10:09] Speaker 8: So is there a chance that you could play out
[10:11] Speaker 8: this season and just dead on yourself and not sign
[10:13] Speaker 8: a contract.
[10:15] Speaker 7: We got the reconstruction doing like I said, Jerry, We're
[10:18] Speaker 7: just gonna go from there though.
[10:21] Speaker 9: I mean, because it's now twenty some months until possibly
[10:24] Speaker 9: be a free agent, and.
[10:26] Speaker 7: You're trying to ask the question differently than Jerry just
[10:28] Speaker 7: a yeah, but I'm gonna be the same master.
[10:32] Speaker 1: I have a little different us.
[10:33] Speaker 8: All right, go ahead, you're.
[10:33] Speaker 1: Still envision yourself long term here with the Ravens. Absolutely.
[10:37] Speaker 10: I love the Ravens.
[10:38] Speaker 1: I love this organization.
[10:39] Speaker 7: I love the city.
[10:40] Speaker 1: My first takeaway is like all of us kind of
[10:44] Speaker 1: stuck up on me. Lamar Jackson no longer like a rookie,
[10:47] Speaker 1: just aging a little bit, just looks like, yeah, he's
[10:50] Speaker 1: been about to be entering his thirties. He's looking more
[10:52] Speaker 1: like a like a real adult man. He was a
[10:56] Speaker 1: he was an adult at twenty three. But yeah, it's
[10:57] Speaker 1: a little different when you hear.
[10:58] Speaker 4: It, looking more like an adult handling complex situations that
[11:02] Speaker 4: you know, often come with contracts like an adult, you know,
[11:05] Speaker 4: knowing how to handle the questions that come being you know, forthright,
[11:09] Speaker 4: but without you know, causing any controversy. Good on Lamar
[11:13] Speaker 4: in all these areas, and good on him as somebody
[11:15] Speaker 4: who has experienced negotiating contracts for himself. Now that he
[11:18] Speaker 4: knows how this process is handled, and instead of him
[11:20] Speaker 4: just deferring to his agent, he gets to be his
[11:22] Speaker 4: own agent and you know, keep some things close to
[11:24] Speaker 4: the best. However, I have one complaint and those of
[11:26] Speaker 4: you watching on YouTube probably saw. I thought that the
[11:29] Speaker 4: end of the Harriball era would mean the end of
[11:31] Speaker 4: the gaudy, awful patches on the practice jerseys. With all
[11:34] Speaker 4: your awards. Lamar has a billion of them. It's it's
[11:36] Speaker 4: bigger than a Jersey Patch ad. Now, like we can
[11:40] Speaker 4: we cut that out already?
[11:41] Speaker 1: Okay, that is an absolutely fair criticism, and I think
[11:45] Speaker 1: it's tricky with Labar as his own agent. But he
[11:48] Speaker 1: did reveal one thing which he said, we are going
[11:51] Speaker 1: to leave the guaranteed contract requests in the past. Someone
[11:56] Speaker 1: asked him, are you going to ask for a fully
[11:57] Speaker 1: guaranteed contract, which is what he was looking for back
[11:59] Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Didn't get it? He said, no,
[12:02] Speaker 1: that was twenty twenty two. Why are we talking about that.
[12:05] Speaker 1: That's not what we're going to do. So appreciate Lamar
[12:08] Speaker 1: big season for him coming off a down year. Jim
[12:11] Speaker 1: Harbaugh has so many good quotes, we can only use
[12:15] Speaker 1: a couple of them. I could just listen to Jim
[12:18] Speaker 1: Harbaugh talk all day. Let's hear about his conversation involving
[12:26] Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator in his quarterback. Yes, Justin Herbert is
[12:29] Speaker 1: back at OTA's. One of the quotes we're not using
[12:33] Speaker 1: was him being asked about Herbert missing practice and he said,
[12:40] Speaker 1: you know, Herbert said he wanted to go support Madison.
[12:42] Speaker 1: He's on a first name basis apparently with Madison Beer,
[12:44] Speaker 1: who is the influencers slash pop star that I was
[12:49] Speaker 1: definitely familiar with. That Jim Harbaugh was definitely familiar with
[12:52] Speaker 1: before Justin Herbert started datium and said, look, Madison's going
[12:56] Speaker 1: to support him. We want him to support Madison. I
[12:58] Speaker 1: said he was going to be gone for a weeks.
[13:00] Speaker 1: He said that was good. Can I drive you to
[13:02] Speaker 1: the airport. This is a guy that you know, is
[13:03] Speaker 1: always playing through a broken hand. He thinks it's very
[13:06] Speaker 1: healthy for Herbert to take some time off. So how
[13:08] Speaker 1: about Jim Harbaugh being a modern coach, But he's not
[13:12] Speaker 1: so modern that he can't just geek out over the
[13:14] Speaker 1: two men that he gets to work with every day.
[13:16] Speaker 8: You know, the two of that, it's been better. It's
[13:18] Speaker 8: been a better I mean, mesh, whatever you call it.
[13:22] Speaker 8: Then I even thought it would be And you know,
[13:26] Speaker 8: I said they're both so smart a couple of times,
[13:29] Speaker 8: but I mean.
[13:30] Speaker 2: They are so smart.
[13:32] Speaker 8: How smart are they? Coach? Well, I wish I could
[13:35] Speaker 8: tell you, because I'm not smart enough to know how
[13:38] Speaker 8: smart they really are. It's just a it's been great.
[13:46] Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Here's the secret, though, Harbaught is smart
[13:52] Speaker 1: enough to know he's not smart enough to know how
[13:56] Speaker 1: smart they are, which is a level that most people
[13:59] Speaker 1: just don't don't even get to. They don't even realize
[14:01] Speaker 1: that they're they're not smart enough to understand how smart enough.
[14:05] Speaker 1: Like that shows a level of emotional intelligence and maturity
[14:10] Speaker 1: I think from Jim Jim.
[14:11] Speaker 4: Harba, I believe that's what we call peak self awareness.
[14:15] Speaker 4: Knowing when to get out of the way is a
[14:17] Speaker 4: great quality of great leaders. However, in that clip there,
[14:22] Speaker 4: he definitely started to say things and then realized I
[14:25] Speaker 4: have no way to get to the end of this track,
[14:27] Speaker 4: like I don't know where this sentence is ending, I
[14:30] Speaker 4: don't know what I'm trying to say, and just drifted
[14:32] Speaker 4: off and said, yeah, it's great.
[14:35] Speaker 1: Glad you pointed that out. We happen to have another clip,
[14:39] Speaker 1: which I can't really describe other than Eric labeled it
[14:44] Speaker 1: as sound awkward, like.
[14:48] Speaker 8: We always look at that, you know, they can't have
[14:50] Speaker 8: enough good players, and and and sentence and can't have
[15:03] Speaker 8: enough good players and can't have enough good players.
[15:09] Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
[15:12] Speaker 8: I know, I'm growing trying to learn.
[15:18] Speaker 2: Just trails off into nothing.
[15:21] Speaker 1: I think he's gotten some coaching, maybe actually from the
[15:23] Speaker 1: media that they never know when his sentences end, that
[15:27] Speaker 1: they just keep going on and on. It's a tough
[15:30] Speaker 1: thing to learn as someone that loves to talk. I
[15:33] Speaker 1: don't know if I fully learned this lesson.
[15:35] Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, if you listen to these shows,
[15:37] Speaker 4: you can hear me definitely struggling to figure out how
[15:40] Speaker 4: to tie a bow on things. But I mean, and
[15:42] Speaker 4: maybe he'll just start adopting the trendy phase period period.
[15:48] Speaker 1: Okay. It's especially tough when you're getting asked questions. I
[15:52] Speaker 1: don't think I'm like, I'm a decent podcast guest. That's different.
[15:58] Speaker 1: But in the rare instances I'm ever been asked questions,
[16:02] Speaker 1: like in an interview, it's tough. You do start rambling,
[16:05] Speaker 1: and then you immediately start thinking about your life as
[16:08] Speaker 1: a journalist, and you're like, no, you want the people
[16:10] Speaker 1: that are concise and say a great line or two
[16:14] Speaker 1: and then stop the answer that's not Jim Harbos, especially
[16:17] Speaker 1: when he's talking ball.
[16:19] Speaker 2: Now he's not really I don't know.
[16:21] Speaker 4: I mean, I get I understand because sometimes I'll say
[16:24] Speaker 4: something and then in an interview setting, then come all
[16:26] Speaker 4: the way back around and repeat what I said at
[16:28] Speaker 4: the beginning, to tie it all together, which is redundant
[16:30] Speaker 4: and is not concise, so we're all working on it,
[16:34] Speaker 4: and to.
[16:34] Speaker 1: Loop back to the original point. This is not a joke.
[16:39] Speaker 1: It took me about five years, four or five years.
[16:42] Speaker 1: I think of reading about football, covering football, doing it
[16:47] Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, and getting into like
[16:49] Speaker 1: everything I could to I think fully even understand how
[16:53] Speaker 1: much I didn't know, you know what I mean. And
[16:57] Speaker 1: I see people who spend their whole life in this industry,
[17:02] Speaker 1: prominent places, and I don't think they ever even get
[17:04] Speaker 1: to that point, to even really because they don't want to,
[17:07] Speaker 1: like accept how little they know, because they want to
[17:10] Speaker 1: be able to speak authoritatively on it, or just don't
[17:13] Speaker 1: like being in that position. It's like that, it is
[17:15] Speaker 1: a good lesson in life to learn, in the different
[17:18] Speaker 1: aspects of your life, how little you might know about
[17:20] Speaker 1: a particular subject.
[17:21] Speaker 4: It's fine as soon as you stop growing, you start dying, right,
[17:24] Speaker 4: so always try to improve.
[17:26] Speaker 1: I agree, good quote. Who's back on the field. I
[17:29] Speaker 1: could not transition as soon as you start dying. With
[17:34] Speaker 1: the return of Raseeon Slater and Joe All to the field,
[17:37] Speaker 1: both doing team drills, both coming off major injuries last year,
[17:42] Speaker 1: and I was just happy to see that so far
[17:45] Speaker 1: no restrictions on either of the tackles. Harbaught indicated that
[17:48] Speaker 1: they are on track to be fully ready for training camp.
[17:51] Speaker 1: Good news there. Let's go to Minnesota where we heard
[17:55] Speaker 1: from Kyler Murray and more importantly in my mind, JJ
[17:59] Speaker 1: McCarry for the first time this offseason talking about each other.
[18:05] Speaker 1: Here is JJ. Actually, we're gonna hear from both and
[18:09] Speaker 1: you can just kind of pick out the different ways
[18:12] Speaker 1: they answered similar questions.
[18:13] Speaker 6: It's been great. Obviously, I know he's a younger guy,
[18:16] Speaker 6: so any any way I can help him. Obviously, I
[18:18] Speaker 6: feel like, you know, I've played seven years now, going
[18:20] Speaker 6: on eight, so I'm considered veteran, even though I don't
[18:23] Speaker 6: see myself as that give him any knowledge that he needs. Again,
[18:26] Speaker 6: you know, we're both competitors, and I know you know
[18:30] Speaker 6: we both won was best of the teams to hearing
[18:34] Speaker 6: of course, of course, yeah, he's no, he's overly acceptive,
[18:36] Speaker 6: you know, and he's he's always communicating, asking questions stuff
[18:39] Speaker 6: like that. So it's been good.
[18:41] Speaker 10: It's just like two guys in a classroom, you know.
[18:44] Speaker 10: He sits on one side, I sit on the other side,
[18:46] Speaker 10: and it's a coach's responsibility to teach us and coach us.
[18:49] Speaker 9: So is there any awkwardness like between you two?
[18:53] Speaker 10: Awkwardness? You know, it's just like the same feeling you
[18:56] Speaker 10: know when you're in high school and there's another person
[18:59] Speaker 10: on the other side of the room. That's just kind
[19:00] Speaker 10: of how it is. So I wouldn't say there's any awkwardness.
[19:02] Speaker 1: That was Kyler Murray speaking first and JJ McCarthy next up.
[19:07] Speaker 1: JJ looks a little bulked up by the way. Any
[19:11] Speaker 1: takeaways from how the two quarterbacks kind of handled the
[19:14] Speaker 1: quarterback competition question.
[19:16] Speaker 4: I think you have one who is a pro and
[19:18] Speaker 4: knows how to not be one hundred percent honest and
[19:20] Speaker 4: just say what the media probably wants him to say
[19:22] Speaker 4: and handle it properly. And you have another one who
[19:24] Speaker 4: is not well versed in that and is not used
[19:25] Speaker 4: to having to battle for his starting job and has
[19:28] Speaker 4: a hard time hiding the fact that he's in an
[19:30] Speaker 4: unusual situation that's uncomfortable to him.
[19:34] Speaker 1: I read Alec Lewis from The Athletic and he thought
[19:38] Speaker 1: the differences between the two of them were quite notable
[19:42] Speaker 1: on the field, just how confident Murray was running the
[19:47] Speaker 1: offense and the types of plays that they were running,
[19:49] Speaker 1: and it was a lot of like, oh yeah, this
[19:51] Speaker 1: is how it should look big play down the field
[19:53] Speaker 1: to Jordan Addison, and I think the difference in terms
[19:58] Speaker 1: of maturity at the pro level you could see it
[20:01] Speaker 1: in those answers too, because McCarthy, I think was needlessly defensive.
[20:06] Speaker 1: If you watched his press conference in general, like he's
[20:09] Speaker 1: just not wanting to share too much after last year,
[20:12] Speaker 1: maybe he shared everything and he feels burnt by it.
[20:15] Speaker 1: And the truth of the answer is probably somewhere in
[20:17] Speaker 1: the middle. It's like, these two guys, they probably don't
[20:20] Speaker 1: have much of a relationship. I always find it funny
[20:22] Speaker 1: when brand new teammates are like, how's JJ bin Locker.
[20:25] Speaker 1: I mean, they've barely spent any time together. They're in
[20:27] Speaker 1: a classroom like it. But I'm sure they've been cordial
[20:30] Speaker 1: and it's fine, Like they don't really have a relationship
[20:32] Speaker 1: and suddenly they have to talk about it. But Kyler's
[20:34] Speaker 1: just like a normal guy about it, where JJ McCarthy
[20:36] Speaker 1: sounds like a very young guy who's dealing with a
[20:39] Speaker 1: difficult situation.
[20:40] Speaker 4: I just imagine if if somebody, if the Powers that
[20:43] Speaker 4: be brought in a competing host, and you were battling
[20:47] Speaker 4: for not only the main power chair, but also the
[20:50] Speaker 4: name on the show, the name on the door, how
[20:52] Speaker 4: would you answer. You'd answer it like a pro, whereas
[20:54] Speaker 4: somebody with less experience would be like, yeah, it's cool.
[21:01] Speaker 1: I want to share it. Let's it depends how much
[21:06] Speaker 1: I respected and enjoyed that other person. You know, I want,
[21:11] Speaker 1: you know, we need more Shook, more Clay Bond, more
[21:14] Speaker 1: Jordan every you know, let's let's elevate all of us more.
[21:17] Speaker 1: Ali like it's all happening, but I respect and love
[21:21] Speaker 1: all for you. Now, if you bring in someone that
[21:24] Speaker 1: it's new and you don't like totally like the vibe,
[21:26] Speaker 1: then it suddenly then it gets weird. Maybe then I
[21:28] Speaker 1: am giving a JJ answer.
[21:31] Speaker 2: Hopefully we never.
[21:34] Speaker 1: Kyler. Kyler gave the answer of a guy who knows
[21:36] Speaker 1: he's going to win the job. Let's go to the Jets,
[21:38] Speaker 1: who revealed on Thursday that Kenyan Sadik, their first round
[21:43] Speaker 1: pick at tight end, one of them is going undergoing
[21:47] Speaker 1: hernia surgery already happened. They expect them to be ready
[21:50] Speaker 1: for training camp. They said it's not anything they didn't
[21:53] Speaker 1: know when they drafted him. I'm not sure I totally
[21:56] Speaker 1: believe that. Not a great sign, but hopefully he is
[22:00] Speaker 1: back for training camp. So just something to watch there.
[22:03] Speaker 1: I have been numbering these points. It's very important to
[22:06] Speaker 1: number your points. That is now the ninth thing we
[22:09] Speaker 1: learned at training camp. The tenth is actually it's I'm
[22:13] Speaker 1: mashing a lot of things together. When it comes to
[22:14] Speaker 1: the Jets, that didn't feel like they all deserve their
[22:16] Speaker 1: own number number one. They signed young Way Coup this week. Great,
[22:20] Speaker 1: let's have a Young Way Koukide York battle. Kad York's
[22:23] Speaker 1: hurt right now. They also said they're having an open
[22:26] Speaker 1: competition at their backup quarterback spot Caid Club, Nick Bailey,
[22:31] Speaker 1: Zappi and Brady Cook, which is not inspiring and also
[22:37] Speaker 1: is the most quarterback y name trio possible. Just my wife, Emica,
[22:45] Speaker 1: you know, she's not a big football fan or wasn't
[22:47] Speaker 1: you know when I first met her and she's like,
[22:49] Speaker 1: why do quarterbacks always have these like quarterback y names?
[22:52] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like Trevor Lawrence is a
[22:54] Speaker 1: quarterback and he met and I would say Caid Club, Nick,
[22:57] Speaker 1: Brady Cook and maybe Bailey's that's just a wacky name,
[23:01] Speaker 1: you know what it is?
[23:02] Speaker 4: The frame is three to four syllables, like Caide Club
[23:05] Speaker 4: Nick right three, Trevor Lawrence for Bailey's Zappy four.
[23:10] Speaker 1: It's a lot of last names as first names too,
[23:12] Speaker 1: which is maybe just more of like a southern white thing,
[23:15] Speaker 1: which is also.
[23:16] Speaker 4: Yes, a lot of quarterbacks. Yes, that's also very accurate.
[23:19] Speaker 4: And then you get the leader Geno Smith three syllables
[23:22] Speaker 4: as well.
[23:23] Speaker 1: Oh there we go.
[23:23] Speaker 2: I'm into it. I'm into it.
[23:24] Speaker 4: But I do think that it's funny because it's a
[23:27] Speaker 4: it's an interesting examination of where teams land with backup quarterbacks.
[23:31] Speaker 2: We have three guys who occupy three different rules.
[23:33] Speaker 4: We know what Bailey Zappy is from his time with
[23:34] Speaker 4: the Patriots and also that weird stint with the Browns. Right,
[23:37] Speaker 4: you saw the peak and the potential of it, and
[23:39] Speaker 4: you kind of know who he is at this point
[23:41] Speaker 4: Brady Cook was you know, God bless his heart, he
[23:43] Speaker 4: was putting a bad situation last year and he was
[23:45] Speaker 4: largely awful. And then you have kid Club Nick the unknown,
[23:48] Speaker 4: the former you know, highly touted recruit coming out of college.
[23:51] Speaker 1: What do we have in him?
[23:52] Speaker 4: So there's some things to explore here, all with the
[23:55] Speaker 4: safety and security of knowing none of them have to
[23:57] Speaker 4: compete for the starting job, So why not let it
[23:59] Speaker 4: be an open competition and let the chips fall where
[24:00] Speaker 4: they met.
[24:01] Speaker 1: And Gino is nothing if not durable, but you're an
[24:05] Speaker 1: injury away from your season being over, not being competitive
[24:09] Speaker 1: on a week to week basis. I like the idea
[24:11] Speaker 1: of bringing in a Russell Wilson type figure, which there
[24:13] Speaker 1: was conversation about, and maybe that'll still happen, and that
[24:16] Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson type figure is number two, cap called
[24:19] Speaker 1: it is number three, and you probably don't need the
[24:22] Speaker 1: other two guys. You put one on the practice squad
[24:24] Speaker 1: or something like that. I didn't want to get past
[24:26] Speaker 1: the show without mentioning though, you're wearing a very special
[24:31] Speaker 1: hat today and there's a reason for that. Paris Campbell
[24:34] Speaker 1: has retired from the NFL, and what does that How
[24:38] Speaker 1: does your hat reflect.
[24:40] Speaker 4: That Paris Campbell I have known since he was in
[24:43] Speaker 4: eighth grade because we both went to the same high school,
[24:46] Speaker 4: Saint It's the same area, which is the hat that
[24:48] Speaker 4: I'm wearing. Most of you listening will know it as
[24:50] Speaker 4: Lebron's school and accurately so high atop a hill, and
[24:54] Speaker 4: Akron is where it resides.
[24:56] Speaker 2: And I wish Paris the best.
[24:58] Speaker 4: He's He's somebody that you know, I was leaving Saint
[25:02] Speaker 4: Vida go to college and he was coming in. He
[25:04] Speaker 4: and Dante Booker were the two big standout names in
[25:08] Speaker 4: that class. They won a couple of state titles. I
[25:09] Speaker 4: was proud to go watch them, you know, finish off
[25:12] Speaker 4: we had kind of started there back then, and then
[25:14] Speaker 4: catch the NFL and do everything that he's done since then.
[25:16] Speaker 4: You know, his career largely can be described as one
[25:18] Speaker 4: hampered by injuries. You know, he made the Super Bowl
[25:21] Speaker 4: with the Eagles. Was really happy to catch up with him,
[25:24] Speaker 4: you know, on an opening night at that time. It
[25:25] Speaker 4: was a very cool reunion of Akron individuals. You know,
[25:28] Speaker 4: it was nice to see him then, and I'm glad
[25:30] Speaker 4: that he's able to complete his career and walk away
[25:33] Speaker 4: on his own terms and enter the next phase of
[25:35] Speaker 4: his life. So congratulations on a successful career at Paris
[25:39] Speaker 4: and enjoy retirement whatever lies ahead.
[25:42] Speaker 1: Rare that you see an NFL player who was not
[25:45] Speaker 1: small six feet two oh eight. You know, he kind
[25:47] Speaker 1: of had a slender build. I thought, on the field,
[25:50] Speaker 1: look like, you know, a speed guy, but just looks
[25:52] Speaker 1: small next to Shook.
[25:55] Speaker 6: Well.
[25:56] Speaker 4: So he was a running back in high school and
[25:57] Speaker 4: then they realized he was getting too tall to play
[25:59] Speaker 4: running back college and urban Meyer moved into receiver and
[26:02] Speaker 4: the rest is history.
[26:03] Speaker 1: And I'm always thinking of our friend Chris Wesseling and
[26:06] Speaker 1: his takes, and I remember we were getting excited. He
[26:09] Speaker 1: really loved what Paris Campbell showed. It's funny what you
[26:12] Speaker 1: remember in the twenty nineteen Paris Campbell rookie preseason. So
[26:18] Speaker 1: going back, yeah, happy trails to Paris Campbell. Let's go
[26:21] Speaker 1: to Mike Vrabel, who was at the podium for his
[26:25] Speaker 1: first normal ish press conference of the offseason, mostly just
[26:30] Speaker 1: handling the OTAs and having some nuggets, like he called
[26:35] Speaker 1: Caleb Lomu one of their most coachable players that they've
[26:38] Speaker 1: ever had. He really likes Caleb Lomu, they're using him
[26:41] Speaker 1: at right and left tackle, but right tackle to start OTAs,
[26:45] Speaker 1: including with the first team sometimes with Morgan Moses. So
[26:48] Speaker 1: I think he's going to get a chance to play
[26:49] Speaker 1: right away. But interesting they're cross training him there. Christian
[26:53] Speaker 1: Gonzalez is not there. He is about due for a
[26:57] Speaker 1: new contract, so that just coulda be something to keep
[26:59] Speaker 1: it on if he decides to skip any mandatory work.
[27:02] Speaker 1: But not a big deal. A lot of people are
[27:04] Speaker 1: skipping voluntary work. And then Rabel was asked, you know
[27:08] Speaker 1: about his family, about everything that happened, he says, to
[27:13] Speaker 1: quote him, I love Jen talking about his wife. I
[27:16] Speaker 1: love my sons. We're in a good place. It's been
[27:18] Speaker 1: a good work life balance this off season. Here here
[27:22] Speaker 1: is him addressing a little more of what this offseason
[27:25] Speaker 1: has been like.
[27:27] Speaker 2: Having to miss football activities again for the rest of
[27:29] Speaker 2: the spring.
[27:29] Speaker 9: I mean, I can only tell you I'm gonna be
[27:31] Speaker 9: there today, Ben, and I can't tell you anything other
[27:33] Speaker 9: than I'm going to be out there today in full force.
[27:37] Speaker 9: And I mean that because you know, who knows what's
[27:41] Speaker 9: going to come up. I'm not even you know, anything
[27:43] Speaker 9: could happen, and so I'm going to focus on today,
[27:47] Speaker 9: but in the excitement that we've had and that we've
[27:49] Speaker 9: built so far, and the conditioning that we've tried to
[27:53] Speaker 9: incorporate into our practices and the weightlifting and all the
[27:55] Speaker 9: things that are critical.
[27:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, we're I think we're now three four weeks removed
[28:00] Speaker 1: from like the latest photo being dropped or the schedule
[28:03] Speaker 1: release when they're making fun of Rabel. At the the
[28:06] Speaker 1: story has calmed down. I think the plan here is
[28:08] Speaker 1: we're able to just go back to normal. We'll still
[28:10] Speaker 1: we'll see if it all stays normal, but I think
[28:12] Speaker 1: it's you know, moving forward. In terms of Mike Rabel,
[28:15] Speaker 1: I'd rather get your thoughts shook on one of the
[28:18] Speaker 1: more unfortunate questions and back and forth that I've seen
[28:22] Speaker 1: in a press conference setting in a while, did not
[28:24] Speaker 1: involve Mike Brabel and involved Drake may follow up, good question.
[28:28] Speaker 9: Are you figured with two.
[28:29] Speaker 7: Seas the way you're.
[28:30] Speaker 5: Supposed to say it's that's kind of like the hip thing,
[28:32] Speaker 5: But you figure with two seas?
[28:35] Speaker 2: Is that how it was supposed to be?
[28:37] Speaker 10: Or I think that's paused If that's anything.
[28:39] Speaker 2: I think that's a that's not the way to put it.
[28:41] Speaker 6: But uh, you better you feel conditioned as far as
[28:47] Speaker 6: another year of experience, just your body getting getting it.
[28:50] Speaker 5: Ready for this.
[28:53] Speaker 4: Sometimes it's best to leave the slang out of the
[28:56] Speaker 4: press conference. My friend, you could have just said, hey,
[28:59] Speaker 4: you put on it looks like you bulked up a
[29:01] Speaker 4: little bit.
[29:02] Speaker 2: Is that for durability? You didn't need to go with
[29:04] Speaker 2: the thick with two c's.
[29:06] Speaker 4: I mean you could have been You could have gone
[29:07] Speaker 4: as far as thicker than a bowl of oatmeal, Like,
[29:09] Speaker 4: we don't need any of that.
[29:11] Speaker 2: Just keep it straightforward.
[29:13] Speaker 1: Were thick? Just say oh, like, what's your workout routine?
[29:15] Speaker 8: Bit?
[29:16] Speaker 1: Or if you even go on to get slightly weird,
[29:18] Speaker 1: look like you've put on some muscle, Like what was
[29:20] Speaker 1: the thinking?
[29:21] Speaker 6: Uh?
[29:22] Speaker 1: Beyond that, I did get a second angle of that question.
[29:26] Speaker 1: Wanted to make sure it was what I thought, and
[29:29] Speaker 1: it was. It was like an older guy. I just figured.
[29:32] Speaker 1: I was like, who is asking this question?
[29:35] Speaker 2: Hell fellow you.
[29:37] Speaker 1: Also, you rarely see Drake may act like a twenty
[29:42] Speaker 1: three year old. He is twenty three year right, what
[29:45] Speaker 1: a what a career this kid is going to have?
[29:48] Speaker 1: But he actually kind of broke character. He's always so
[29:51] Speaker 1: serious and not giving the media anything. He just started
[29:55] Speaker 1: laughing and he was. His answer was just like that
[29:58] Speaker 1: that's a pause. She was like, I don't know if
[30:01] Speaker 1: that's youth. Just the way he dies, just like, that's
[30:03] Speaker 1: a pause. That was I thought the pause was like
[30:05] Speaker 1: in the twenty tens. I didn't know the pause was
[30:07] Speaker 1: still around, But we'll roll with it.
[30:09] Speaker 8: That is.
[30:10] Speaker 1: That is awesome, And Drake Bait does look a little
[30:13] Speaker 1: bigger if you just just look at the the throws
[30:17] Speaker 1: that he was making. Fun fun to see all these
[30:19] Speaker 1: teams out there in OTAs, including the guys that were
[30:22] Speaker 1: hurt late last year. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised with
[30:26] Speaker 1: injury recoveries anymore. But there is video of Daniel Jones
[30:30] Speaker 1: out at practice. There was video of Patrick Mahomes out
[30:34] Speaker 1: at practice with a brace on. Wasn't moving amazing, but
[30:37] Speaker 1: he was doing drops and moving. I thought that was interesing.
[30:40] Speaker 1: But the fact that Daniel Jones, only six months removed
[30:43] Speaker 1: from a torn achilles I saw out there kind of
[30:47] Speaker 1: taking reps. I mean, he's not taking team reps. He's
[30:49] Speaker 1: just standing there kind of throwing passes. But he's out
[30:52] Speaker 1: there six months removed from a torn achilles. Makes you
[30:58] Speaker 1: think maybe this cult's optimism that he could be ready
[31:02] Speaker 1: as early as week one is not that crazy when
[31:06] Speaker 1: you do the timeline.
[31:07] Speaker 4: Okay, So I don't like the idea of rushing the
[31:10] Speaker 4: guy back from any significant injury, just because the danger
[31:13] Speaker 4: that exists within that right and pinning your season's hopes
[31:17] Speaker 4: on that also is a treacherous Those are treacherous waters
[31:20] Speaker 4: to wade into.
[31:21] Speaker 2: I also don't really feel I want to know, like where,
[31:26] Speaker 2: how are we getting to the point where this is
[31:28] Speaker 2: even possible? Like this is an injury to the procedure.
[31:31] Speaker 1: I read all about it. Stephen Holder on ESPN dot
[31:34] Speaker 1: com wrote about it, and you know in the current
[31:39] Speaker 1: way that they do it. If then get past the
[31:41] Speaker 1: three month mark, the incision is not as big, the
[31:43] Speaker 1: inflammation is less, and they Okay, some doctors feel like, hey,
[31:47] Speaker 1: if Tatum can get back on the field of the
[31:49] Speaker 1: nine or ten months, quarterbacks aren't making those explosive side
[31:52] Speaker 1: to side movement as much. It's not as crazy for
[31:54] Speaker 1: a quarterback.
[31:55] Speaker 4: And Jason Tatum stands as the example of that you
[31:58] Speaker 4: can come back fully healthy and get it done, say
[32:01] Speaker 4: for Game seven against the Sixers. But look, I also
[32:05] Speaker 4: point to Kirk Cousins, who was much older when he
[32:06] Speaker 4: suffered his achilles injury. But he even admitted after his
[32:08] Speaker 4: first year in Atlanta that he didn't feel right. He
[32:10] Speaker 4: didn't really feel right until last year, and at that
[32:12] Speaker 4: point he'd already lost his job. So temporaryr optimism a
[32:15] Speaker 4: little bit. But it is nice to see him on
[32:17] Speaker 4: the field. Anybody likes We all like seeing a guy
[32:19] Speaker 4: on the field as opposed on the sideline in shorts
[32:20] Speaker 4: watching team practice.
[32:21] Speaker 1: We just do. It's great to see Jones. Spoke with
[32:24] Speaker 1: reporters on Wednesday. He said he absolutely expects to be
[32:28] Speaker 1: ready for week one, so you know, hold fire on
[32:31] Speaker 1: the Riley Leonard versus Anthony Richardson think pieces because they
[32:34] Speaker 1: are sharing first team reps in terms of the team drills. Richardson,
[32:38] Speaker 1: by the way, looks cut up like he's always been
[32:43] Speaker 1: an impressive you know looking but he looks like he
[32:46] Speaker 1: was like he got angry in the gym this off
[32:48] Speaker 1: and we'll see, maybe we'll see an exciting Anthony Richardson.
[32:51] Speaker 1: You bring up basketball before we say goodbye. Those were
[32:54] Speaker 1: thirteen things we learned from Otia's this week. We got
[32:58] Speaker 1: rankings to wrap up the week. No news you attended,
[33:02] Speaker 1: let's be honest, a local massacre with your basketball team
[33:07] Speaker 1: over the weekend. Oh, you're putting on sunglasses. And I
[33:11] Speaker 1: wasn't going to bring it up at all, but you
[33:12] Speaker 1: brought it up before the show, and you called the
[33:16] Speaker 1: New York Knickerbocker fans the most classless bunch of fans
[33:20] Speaker 1: you've ever seen.
[33:21] Speaker 4: Yeah, sunglasses to enter witness protection because my team did
[33:25] Speaker 4: get slaughtered, ran out of gas really in the second
[33:28] Speaker 4: half of Game three, and they were playing at two
[33:30] Speaker 4: different speeds. All the credit the world of the Knicks.
[33:33] Speaker 4: The Knicks did everything they should have done there on fire.
[33:36] Speaker 4: They earned that they were the better team in this series.
[33:37] Speaker 4: They earned their trip to the finals. This has nothing
[33:39] Speaker 4: to do with basketball. It has everything to do with
[33:40] Speaker 4: the fact that their fans don't know how to win
[33:42] Speaker 4: with class because they have any thing of substance in
[33:44] Speaker 4: fifty years. So I'm gonna take these off and just
[33:46] Speaker 4: own this. I can't tell you how many times. I'm
[33:49] Speaker 4: not somebody that gets into trash talking arguments or anything
[33:52] Speaker 4: like that, but I can't tell you how many times
[33:53] Speaker 4: I was confronted by Knicks fans after the game with
[33:56] Speaker 4: trash talk somebody telling me to go home. I turned,
[33:58] Speaker 4: I am home. I'm in Cleveland, this is where I live.
[34:00] Speaker 4: You go home, you're in my home. It got to
[34:02] Speaker 4: the point where after a while it's just like, oh
[34:04] Speaker 4: my god, you are so obnoxious. Please leave my city.
[34:07] Speaker 4: Get out of here. You're ruining the experience here. I
[34:11] Speaker 4: you know, good luck, good luck. But this is a
[34:13] Speaker 4: fan base that they have a reputation for a reason,
[34:16] Speaker 4: and I got a first hand experience abow low class
[34:19] Speaker 4: they were.
[34:19] Speaker 2: So hopefully if they win something to learn how to
[34:22] Speaker 2: win with some class.
[34:24] Speaker 6: Now.
[34:24] Speaker 1: I like to do a little trash talk. That's part
[34:26] Speaker 1: of the fun. If you're in an away stadium, Yeah,
[34:30] Speaker 1: just just enjoy it. There's no need to You.
[34:33] Speaker 4: Can talk a little bit of trash. I've done with
[34:34] Speaker 4: plenty of fans. But there's a level of respect that
[34:36] Speaker 4: the Knicks fans left at home.
[34:38] Speaker 2: So that's my issue with that.
[34:39] Speaker 1: How how about a Cleveland fan saying they haven't won
[34:42] Speaker 1: anything in so long?
[34:43] Speaker 4: A last championship was what fifty four years ago for
[34:46] Speaker 4: them or something like that.
[34:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, ten years ago.
[34:49] Speaker 1: Yeah you got yours because of a man from Saint Vincent.
[34:53] Speaker 1: Saint Mary's just like yourself, just like Paris Campbell. Let's
[34:56] Speaker 1: hit that music, Let's get out of here. Not the
[34:59] Speaker 1: last time you'll hear from us. This week, however, we
[35:02] Speaker 1: are continuing our NFL Daily thirty two series, so we're
[35:08] Speaker 1: going through I find this really fun, all the different positions,
[35:12] Speaker 1: kind of a snapshot where the NFL is at. We
[35:15] Speaker 1: will be back on Friday ranking the running backs top
[35:20] Speaker 1: thirty two. We'll see if a Cleveland Brown makes it.
[35:22] Speaker 2: I think one will

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