# Would You Rather...Part 2

An episode of [Best Life Pending with Steph De Sousa & Chrissy Hearn](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/6806116018), 29 Sep 2026, 6:45.

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A game of “Would You Rather” gets surprisingly deep as Chrissy and Steph tackle alcohol, addictive tendencies, menopause, HRT and the ultimate battle between money and identity. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: A Poche production. And action. I'm Chrissy Hearn. And I
[0:15] Speaker 1: am Steph DeSouza.
[0:16] Speaker 2: And our podcast is Best Life Fending. Do you want
[0:21] Speaker 2: to be my wingwoman?
[0:23] Speaker 1: Be nice to yourself.
[0:24] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[0:25] Speaker 1: Don't be so hard on yourself.
[0:26] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[0:27] Speaker 2: Would you rather? Okay, hit us with another, Katie.
[0:30] Speaker 3: Would you rather... Never drink alcohol ever again or never
[0:35] Speaker 3: eat dessert ever again.
[0:37] Speaker 1: Oh, I'll never eat dessert. I'm not a dessert girly anyway.
[0:40] Speaker 2: Are you?
[0:40] Speaker 1: No, savoury girl all the way. Cannot take that glass
[0:44] Speaker 1: of blush. I'm into the blush now.
[0:46] Speaker 3: Wine.
[0:46] Speaker 1: And the wine.
[0:47] Speaker 2: What wine? Red wine.
[0:49] Speaker 1: Red wine.
[0:50] Speaker 2: So you have just, that was easy for you.
[0:51] Speaker 1: Oh, easy peasy.
[0:52] Speaker 2: See, for me as a foodie, that's actually really challenging.
[0:56] Speaker 2: I think this might be a little bit.
[0:58] Speaker 1: God, we're getting controversial on dessert and wine.
[1:01] Speaker 3: Deep.
[1:01] Speaker 1: Oh, deep.
[1:02] Speaker 3: Deep.
[1:02] Speaker 1: Okay, let me get comfy. Go.
[1:04] Speaker 2: I think I would like someone to say, you can
[1:08] Speaker 2: never drink alcohol again for me.
[1:10] Speaker 1: Oh, so you would like that taken out of your hands.
[1:12] Speaker 2: I would like that taken out of my hands. You
[1:14] Speaker 2: know how you have that negative self-talk in your head
[1:18] Speaker 2: about things that are good and things that are bad,
[1:19] Speaker 2: like good food, bad food, from the diet culture, all
[1:22] Speaker 2: the rest of it? For me, alcohol is bad.
[1:24] Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
[1:27] Speaker 2: So I always have a battle in my head, like,
[1:29] Speaker 2: am I drinking too much? Always think that. And I
[1:32] Speaker 2: probably am because I think if you've got to ask
[1:34] Speaker 2: that question, you probably are, right, if we're being honest.
[1:37] Speaker 2: And I would like that taken out of my hands.
[1:40] Speaker 3: Okay.
[1:41] Speaker 1: And then I'd.
[1:42] Speaker 2: Just be happily not have to deal with that in
[1:45] Speaker 2: my own head anymore.
[1:46] Speaker 1: Do you have any, like, addiction behaviours? Oh, yeah, 100%.
[1:52] Speaker 1: So addictive, compulsive type?
[1:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
[1:55] Speaker 2: Absolutely. So I constantly check myself for things like addictions.
[2:01] Speaker 2: And like our family has a history of addiction and
[2:04] Speaker 2: addictive kind of behaviour. So, yeah, I constantly check myself. Yeah,
[2:09] Speaker 2: like gambling. I don't gamble because I don't want to
[2:12] Speaker 2: become addicted to it. Drugs, never take drugs because I
[2:15] Speaker 2: think I could easily become addicted if I did. I
[2:17] Speaker 2: was a cigarette smoker for a long time, found it
[2:19] Speaker 2: very difficult to quit.
[2:21] Speaker 1: So I come from a whole background of addictive, compulsive things. family.
[2:26] Speaker 1: So my grandfather was an alcoholic.
[2:28] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:29] Speaker 1: My father's father was an alcoholic. My father was an alcoholic,
[2:32] Speaker 1: high functioning. And I have always been super aware that
[2:37] Speaker 1: I have that tendency.
[2:38] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:39] Speaker 1: So when I was drinking a little bit too much
[2:41] Speaker 1: and I checked myself, I thought, you know what? I
[2:43] Speaker 1: have to tell the boysies that we have an addictive
[2:47] Speaker 1: personality trait in our family. So whatever you do, you
[2:52] Speaker 1: need to be mindful of the drinking.
[2:54] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:55] Speaker 1: Of potentially gambling.
[2:57] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:57] Speaker 1: You know, any other things.
[2:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:59] Speaker 1: Overspending.
[3:01] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[3:01] Speaker 1: Compulsivity. Is that a word? It is a definite thing.
[3:05] Speaker 2: How's those little pop mart things going?
[3:08] Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Do you reckon that's a
[3:11] Speaker 1: bit addictive? Oh, yeah, because it gives me a dopamine hit.
[3:14] Speaker 2: That's a bit like gambling, isn't it? Opening those little boxes.
[3:17] Speaker 1: Yes, most definitely.
[3:18] Speaker 2: It's like, ooh, what am I going to get? What
[3:19] Speaker 2: am I going to get?
[3:20] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[3:20] Speaker 1: I just like the little things to be cute and fluffy. Yeah,
[3:23] Speaker 1: of course.
[3:24] Speaker 2: Yeah, but it does give you a dopamine hit.
[3:25] Speaker 1: Definitely give me a bit of a dopamine hit. Yeah, yeah.
[3:28] Speaker 2: So, yeah, I would very much take the dessert because
[3:32] Speaker 2: I would like that just taken out of my life.
[3:35] Speaker 3: Would you rather have mild menopause symptoms for the rest
[3:38] Speaker 3: of your life or always have a period?
[3:42] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Oh, that's hard. So I don't think
[3:46] Speaker 1: you ever get rid of menopause symptoms. I know older
[3:49] Speaker 1: women that still get hot flushes.
[3:52] Speaker 2: HRT.
[3:54] Speaker 1: I'm looking behind me to think, is that right, the
[3:56] Speaker 1: HRT gets rid of all of that? Well, yeah, it does.
[4:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why I really want you to look
[4:01] Speaker 2: into it. I really want you to look into it.
[4:04] Speaker 1: I'm okay, though. I've got my Jabba Jabbas and I've
[4:06] Speaker 1: got my Lexapro and I've got my Vise Van, whatever
[4:09] Speaker 1: it's called.
[4:09] Speaker 2: You still complain about menopausal symptoms, don't you?
[4:12] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, sometimes, yeah.
[4:13] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[4:13] Speaker 2: I would like you to open your mind.
[4:15] Speaker 3: Okay.
[4:16] Speaker 1: I'll take that on and I'll see what I can do.
[4:18] Speaker 1: Just do a little bit of research. All right.
[4:19] Speaker 2: Just do a little bit of reading.
[4:20] Speaker 1: That's all.
[4:20] Speaker 2: That's all I want you to do.
[4:21] Speaker 1: Okay. I'll open up the Google.
[4:24] Speaker 3: Yes.
[4:24] Speaker 2: But I answered that question. Mild menopause symptoms or a
[4:28] Speaker 2: period for the rest of your life? I'm going to
[4:33] Speaker 2: take period for the rest of my life.
[4:34] Speaker 1: Really?
[4:35] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[4:35] Speaker 2: I'd rather deal with that than menopausal symptoms.
[4:38] Speaker 3: Oh, no.
[4:39] Speaker 1: Thank you.
[4:39] Speaker 2: Maybe it depends on your menopausal symptoms experience. Mine was
[4:43] Speaker 2: particularly bad.
[4:45] Speaker 1: But was your mother's bad?
[4:46] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[4:46] Speaker 1: You don't remember that, do you? I don't remember. Is
[4:48] Speaker 1: that something you would ask her?
[4:50] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I could actually, but I just have never
[4:51] Speaker 2: thought to ask her. Two of my sisters was particularly bad.
[4:56] Speaker 2: One of my sisters impacted her mental health really significantly.
[5:00] Speaker 2: I'm sure she would be open about telling the story
[5:03] Speaker 2: about the day that she actually stopped herself from jumping
[5:07] Speaker 2: off a cliff because she had some strategies because she
[5:10] Speaker 2: was a school teacher and had done a lot of
[5:12] Speaker 2: mental health training about students. She managed herself not to
[5:16] Speaker 2: and got herself to the hospital from menopausal symptoms. So, yeah,
[5:21] Speaker 2: I think it's pretty extreme. It can be pretty extreme.
[5:24] Speaker 1: It's awful.
[5:25] Speaker 2: What about you?
[5:25] Speaker 1: What's your choice? I'm going to have the menopausal light symptoms.
[5:29] Speaker 2: Are you?
[5:31] Speaker 3: Okay. Would you rather never be able to wear makeup
[5:34] Speaker 3: or the clothes you like but still do social videos,
[5:39] Speaker 3: or wear the makeup and the clothes you love, but
[5:42] Speaker 3: only ever be able to do static posts?
[5:45] Speaker 1: I don't think I'm bothered, to be honest. You do
[5:48] Speaker 1: videos without makeup on.
[5:49] Speaker 2: I do my videos without makeup on in my pyjamas
[5:52] Speaker 2: quite often. Yeah, I don't.
[5:54] Speaker 1: I sometimes don't use makeup.
[5:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think I'd be okay. I would be
[5:58] Speaker 2: totally okay with that.
[6:00] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[6:00] Speaker 3: Yeah. That means you have to go to the Logies
[6:03] Speaker 3: wearing just, like, Shorts and t-shirt. Oh.
[6:06] Speaker 1: Well, potentially not. No. It's a negatory for me. I
[6:10] Speaker 1: would never, ever be seen dead in shorts and singlet. No.
[6:14] Speaker 1: I just do statics.
[6:15] Speaker 2: It's a really hard choice. I don't actually know. That's
[6:19] Speaker 2: really hard for me. I think I'm going to do
[6:21] Speaker 2: static posts. I think I'm going to do static posts.
[6:25] Speaker 3: Then you're giving up your cash too.
[6:27] Speaker 1: Oh, God.
[6:28] Speaker 2: It's cash versus identity. And I think my identity is
[6:31] Speaker 2: more important to me than the cash.
[6:34] Speaker 1: Oh, that's very deep.
[6:35] Speaker 2: It is, isn't it?
[6:36] Speaker 1: Very deep.
[6:37] Speaker 2: Especially for me, who doesn't like to spend money and
[6:40] Speaker 2: likes to scrimp it away for a rainy day. I
[6:42] Speaker 2: think that's quite telling, really.

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