# Friendship in Your 50s: Why Are We So Lonely?

An episode of [Best Life Pending with Steph De Sousa & Chrissy Hearn](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/6806116018), 11 Oct 2026, 18 min.

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Friendships can change dramatically as we get older, but why is making and keeping friends in your 50s so difficult? Chrissy and Steph open up about friendship breakups, loneliness, empty nesting and the importance of finding your people. Plus, they share simple ways to reconnect and build meaningful friendships at any age. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:05] Speaker 1: A Poche production. And action. I'm Chrissy Hearn.
[0:14] Speaker 2: And I am Steph DeSouza. And our podcast is Best
[0:18] Speaker 2: Life Vending. Do you want to be my wing woman?
[0:23] Speaker 1: Be nice to yourself. Yeah. Don't be so hard on yourself.
[0:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[0:27] Speaker 1: Now, I can't wait to start this. You are itching,
[0:29] Speaker 1: aren't you, Chrissie? I'm itching to talk about this because
[0:31] Speaker 1: I think it's an epidemic.
[0:33] Speaker 2: It is an epidemic. Episode six, Chrissie, Friendship in Your Fifties.
[0:37] Speaker 1: Excellent.
[0:38] Speaker 2: I'm just going to interview you for this one.
[0:42] Speaker 1: Okay.
[0:43] Speaker 2: Okay. Spear your guts, go. Okay. All right. Do you
[0:45] Speaker 2: like my interview technique?
[0:46] Speaker 1: I do. I mean, I think it needs to be
[0:48] Speaker 1: worked on, but look, it's okay to start with. The
[0:50] Speaker 1: question you're going to throw at me is, again, friendship
[0:53] Speaker 1: in your 50s. Right. Okay. Sorry, I didn't retain the
[0:56] Speaker 1: first time round. I think that there is an actual epidemic,
[1:00] Speaker 1: a silent one, out there now with women over 40
[1:04] Speaker 1: that are struggling with friendships, maintaining friendships. looking for new
[1:10] Speaker 1: friendships and being ghosted, like friendships that have ended.
[1:14] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:14] Speaker 1: But there's no, okay, see you later, I'm off kind
[1:17] Speaker 1: of thing. You're around a lot of women. Have you
[1:21] Speaker 1: found or have yourself found your friendship groups have changed?
[1:25] Speaker 2: This is a difficult one for me to analyse because
[1:28] Speaker 2: my life has changed so much.
[1:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
[1:31] Speaker 2: It's a chicken or the egg situation really.
[1:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
[1:34] Speaker 2: And I have relocated a lot. So for me, a
[1:38] Speaker 2: lot of my friendships have faded away because of location.
[1:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.
[1:42] Speaker 2: I do have one significant friendship that we can talk
[1:45] Speaker 2: about that dissolved. But I think I am just not
[1:49] Speaker 2: a very good friend because I'm very busy. I find
[1:52] Speaker 2: it hard to find the time. And when I do
[1:56] Speaker 2: have time, I find it hard to find the energy.
[1:59] Speaker 2: Because a lot of what we do is public facing
[2:03] Speaker 2: or around lots of people that when I have downtime,
[2:06] Speaker 2: I actually just want to be a bit isolated. When
[2:11] Speaker 2: I make the effort and I do go, I love it.
[2:14] Speaker 2: And I love being with my friends. But I find
[2:16] Speaker 2: it difficult to say yes to things because I just
[2:20] Speaker 2: don't know how I'm going to feel. And I know
[2:22] Speaker 2: I'm probably going to be a bit drained. That's a
[2:24] Speaker 2: very selfish thing.
[2:25] Speaker 1: So when the kids were little, you would have had playgroup,
[2:29] Speaker 1: you would have had kindy, you would have had primary school,
[2:32] Speaker 1: you probably did the canteen.
[2:33] Speaker 2: Yep.
[2:34] Speaker 1: You know, you were active within the school life. Yep.
[2:36] Speaker 1: Making connections and friendships there when the school grounds.
[2:40] Speaker 2: Yep.
[2:41] Speaker 1: Then progress to high school.
[2:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:42] Speaker 1: They don't necessarily want you so much around in high school.
[2:46] Speaker 2: No, they don't want you around at all.
[2:47] Speaker 1: Right? And potentially you've already then gone out and found
[2:50] Speaker 1: yourself a little part-time job or something to supplement the
[2:53] Speaker 1: family income, right? So you're meeting different people. Yeah. For
[2:56] Speaker 1: different stages of your life.
[2:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[2:58] Speaker 1: So then once all school's now finished, you potentially are
[3:03] Speaker 1: in full-time work or, like yourself, have now reinvented yourself
[3:08] Speaker 1: into someone Content creation is quite a lonely job, really.
[3:12] Speaker 2: It's a really lonely job. And I feel lonely a
[3:14] Speaker 2: lot of the time.
[3:15] Speaker 1: Because you're so focused on getting that content out. You
[3:18] Speaker 1: don't have work colleagues as such. You've got family that
[3:22] Speaker 1: are working with you. But you're not out there actively
[3:25] Speaker 1: engaging with new people. You are with your followers and
[3:28] Speaker 1: your book signings.
[3:30] Speaker 2: And I'm meeting lots of other creators and things like that.
[3:32] Speaker 2: But they're not like your life is.
[3:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, or technical workplace.
[3:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[3:37] Speaker 1: Your workplace is wherever your phone is and what you're
[3:40] Speaker 1: doing on camera and stuff. Have you found, though, that
[3:44] Speaker 1: with the changes that you've had in your life, that
[3:47] Speaker 1: you've lost connections with people that you potentially would have
[3:51] Speaker 1: liked to have continued?
[3:52] Speaker 2: I think I haven't pursued them. Forming a friendship is
[3:55] Speaker 2: a two-way street, right? And I think I haven't made
[3:59] Speaker 2: the effort to... Pursue new friendships. I have a couple
[4:02] Speaker 2: of different groups of friends. Some of them are from
[4:05] Speaker 2: high school. Oh, wow.
[4:06] Speaker 1: So you've maintained those relationships.
[4:08] Speaker 2: Yeah. That's great. And we've lost over time. We've drifted apart.
[4:12] Speaker 2: But we have probably in the last five or six
[4:14] Speaker 2: years we've come back together. Once a year, twice a
[4:18] Speaker 2: year kind of scenario. But we're tight, you know. And
[4:21] Speaker 2: then I have, you know, a couple of other groups
[4:23] Speaker 2: of friends. I guess the girls that I see the
[4:26] Speaker 2: most now are my son's soccer friends. team mums and
[4:31] Speaker 2: the dads and we formed a bit of a bond
[4:33] Speaker 2: and we yeah see each other quite a bit.
[4:35] Speaker 1: Do you find it difficult because of what you do
[4:38] Speaker 1: and because you are so much in the limelight with
[4:40] Speaker 1: different things that you're into that you're worried about the
[4:44] Speaker 1: friendships and connections that you're making may not potentially be.
[4:48] Speaker 2: No not at all no no not at all I
[4:50] Speaker 2: think because I never even thought about it to be
[4:53] Speaker 2: honest but yeah no I just take things for what
[4:55] Speaker 2: they are I don't think about it too deeply People
[4:58] Speaker 2: sort of slide into my DMs and things like that,
[5:01] Speaker 2: that maybe want to try and pursue a friendship that
[5:04] Speaker 2: maybe you go, well, that's a bit weird. But no,
[5:06] Speaker 2: I haven't found that. What about you? Have you found that?
[5:09] Speaker 1: So with me, I had two really, like, I thought
[5:13] Speaker 1: were my ride and dies.
[5:15] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[5:15] Speaker 1: And we'd raised our kids together.
[5:17] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[5:17] Speaker 1: We were really, really close, over 25 years, right, friendships.
[5:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.
[5:22] Speaker 1: One of them completely ghosted me.
[5:24] Speaker 2: What, just disappeared?
[5:25] Speaker 1: Just disappeared. Just absolutely, completely and utterly disappeared. And because
[5:31] Speaker 1: of the ADHD rejection sensitivity that I have, I would
[5:36] Speaker 1: lay awake at night wondering what I had done.
[5:38] Speaker 2: Mm.
[5:39] Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to be pushing myself out there
[5:41] Speaker 1: if they're not going to return my call or put
[5:44] Speaker 1: any effort in it. They're done. I'm not going to
[5:46] Speaker 1: be able to get that back. And then I had
[5:49] Speaker 1: a girlfriend that really hurt me. She made some comments that,
[5:53] Speaker 1: you know, and everybody's entitled to their own opinion and
[5:55] Speaker 1: that was her thoughts, feelings and emotions and I will
[5:58] Speaker 1: respect that. I didn't think it was like that. She did.
[6:03] Speaker 1: And for me... Once you hurt me, I'm done. I'm
[6:08] Speaker 1: not going to be able to, you know, be nice
[6:10] Speaker 1: and rosy and stuff like that. So these two relationships
[6:14] Speaker 1: that I really, like I shared my intimate thoughts with them,
[6:18] Speaker 1: my feelings with them. They knew they could read me.
[6:21] Speaker 1: They knew when I was good, when I was bad.
[6:23] Speaker 1: We were connected. Like it was like a soulmate type situation. Yeah.
[6:28] Speaker 1: It just absolutely guarded me for such a long time. Yeah.
[6:31] Speaker 2: Does it make you not want to enter into more
[6:34] Speaker 2: friendships as in you're a bit guarded now?
[6:36] Speaker 1: Well, I have actually a beautiful group of friends. I
[6:40] Speaker 1: don't have a lot of friends. Like I'm not one
[6:42] Speaker 1: that's got, you know, thousand and one groups.
[6:45] Speaker 2: Yeah, same.
[6:46] Speaker 1: I am busy and I'm sometimes not a great friend
[6:48] Speaker 1: because I don't enter in a lot of chat on
[6:50] Speaker 1: group chats and stuff.
[6:51] Speaker 2: I'm the same. I'm not very good at keeping contact
[6:53] Speaker 2: with people.
[6:53] Speaker 1: Just because it's just so busy. I've got Ricardo. You know,
[6:58] Speaker 1: life is life.
[6:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[6:59] Speaker 1: But I do treasure them and I love spending time
[7:02] Speaker 1: with them. So we try and make arrangements to go
[7:05] Speaker 1: out and do stuff and go away for girls' weekends
[7:07] Speaker 1: and things like that. But it's only just recently dawned
[7:11] Speaker 1: on me how much I actually need these women in
[7:13] Speaker 1: my life. Like for me, having a girlfriend to sit
[7:17] Speaker 1: around and just talk shit.
[7:19] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[7:20] Speaker 1: You know, just talk shit. And not that we sit
[7:23] Speaker 1: around and whinge about husbands or anything, but it's like...
[7:26] Speaker 1: It's different. It's different. It's like we are connected... I
[7:30] Speaker 1: trust them impeccably, if that's a word. And for me,
[7:33] Speaker 1: it's almost like they're my people.
[7:36] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[7:36] Speaker 1: They get me. They understand me. They don't judge me. They,
[7:40] Speaker 1: you know, see my quirks and love me regardless of
[7:43] Speaker 1: my quirks.
[7:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[7:44] Speaker 1: Which I find really quite freeing.
[7:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[7:47] Speaker 1: Then look at women that don't have that. And I
[7:51] Speaker 1: can see that people are craving that connection. I just
[7:54] Speaker 1: want to empower them to have that community.
[7:57] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[7:58] Speaker 1: Because loneliness is actually one of the most epidemic problems
[8:03] Speaker 1: that we have.
[8:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, of this time.
[8:05] Speaker 1: Of this time.
[8:06] Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I was very lucky in that my sister
[8:12] Speaker 2: was my best friend. Like I've said openly before, I've
[8:15] Speaker 2: lost her a few years ago. She died of motor
[8:17] Speaker 2: neurons disease. And she was my ride or die.
[8:21] Speaker 1: Like we would.
[8:22] Speaker 2: Spend at least an hour on the phone together every day.
[8:25] Speaker 2: She lived at the Gold Coast. I was in Newcastle. Everything,
[8:27] Speaker 2: like an hour on the phone and there'd be text messages.
[8:30] Speaker 2: It was just like having someone beside me all the time.
[8:33] Speaker 2: And that has been a very big hole in my life.
[8:38] Speaker 2: It's recently become more filled by my daughter because she's
[8:43] Speaker 2: moved back from Darwin. She's living close by and we're
[8:46] Speaker 2: spending more time together.
[8:48] Speaker 1: Connection.
[8:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, that connection. I would say that she's the person
[8:52] Speaker 2: that I'm closest to out of everybody. But that's probably
[8:55] Speaker 2: not good for her. She should really be people her
[9:00] Speaker 2: own age. And she probably will because she's going into
[9:03] Speaker 2: that era of having a baby. She'll make connections at
[9:05] Speaker 2: childcare and all that kind of stuff. But right now
[9:08] Speaker 2: she's kind of the person that would know intimately, like
[9:11] Speaker 2: you said, looking at me, know what I'm feeling, my thoughts,
[9:14] Speaker 2: feelings and emotions at any particular time. I hadn't really
[9:17] Speaker 2: thought about that before now. I mean, I knew I'd
[9:20] Speaker 2: lost my best friend. And I knew that I have
[9:23] Speaker 2: been feeling lonely. I hadn't sort of noticed that Darby
[9:25] Speaker 2: had filled that spot. So that's kind of nice for me.
[9:27] Speaker 1: But I think you can be lonely in a room
[9:29] Speaker 1: full of people.
[9:30] Speaker 2: You absolutely can. And I am always in a room
[9:32] Speaker 2: full of people.
[9:33] Speaker 1: Yeah. I think to myself, there are women out there
[9:36] Speaker 1: that are just going through the gears and they've got
[9:39] Speaker 1: no one. I look at them and I think every
[9:42] Speaker 1: woman needs a good woman.
[9:43] Speaker 2: And you only need one.
[9:45] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[9:45] Speaker 2: You only need one. You don't need more than that. Absolutely.
[9:47] Speaker 1: Absolutely. And so it's really encouraging me. I'm seeing a
[9:51] Speaker 1: lot more social community type events popping up around the
[9:55] Speaker 1: place for women, which is so cool.
[9:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing.
[9:58] Speaker 1: And we talked about Sammy this morning and her camping group. Yeah.
[10:02] Speaker 1: That's amazing. I know.
[10:03] Speaker 2: We've got a social media friend. Her handle is Kirby Sam.
[10:06] Speaker 2: It's not Sammy's. It's Kirby Sam, I think. She's a
[10:09] Speaker 2: little bit younger than us and she's started these A
[10:13] Speaker 2: bit like You're Still Social for older people. She's doing
[10:15] Speaker 2: it for younger people and it's great. She had such
[10:18] Speaker 2: a great response from her little camping trip on the weekend.
[10:20] Speaker 1: It's wonderful.
[10:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fabulous.
[10:21] Speaker 1: It is because she's making a difference. Yeah, she is.
[10:24] Speaker 1: She's touching people's lives. The amount of inboxes I get,
[10:27] Speaker 1: people coming into my DMs and just... The stories are
[10:31] Speaker 1: incredible of such loneliness and sadness and, you know, marriage
[10:35] Speaker 1: have broken up and they've just lost. The kids are gone.
[10:39] Speaker 1: What are they going to do? Where are they going?
[10:41] Speaker 2: You see, I'm on the cusp of this. We were
[10:43] Speaker 2: talking earlier about my youngest, Noah, is in the last
[10:48] Speaker 2: few months of school and he's already booked his trip
[10:51] Speaker 2: to Europe to take off and he won't be home
[10:52] Speaker 2: for Christmas for the first time, which is... I tried
[10:56] Speaker 2: not to let it show on my face how devastated
[10:58] Speaker 2: I was when he told me this. Like, okay. But
[11:02] Speaker 2: I've got two grandbabies, so I'm moving out of being
[11:04] Speaker 2: a mum into being a grandma, and I'm embracing that
[11:08] Speaker 2: part of my life. And I was telling you that
[11:11] Speaker 2: Nev is kind of the opposite to me. He's gone, woo-hoo,
[11:15] Speaker 2: kids are gone, let's go, let's party, let's do whatever,
[11:19] Speaker 2: let's travel, blah, blah, blah. And I'm feeling the opposite.
[11:22] Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I just want to bring them all
[11:24] Speaker 2: close to me. Like I'm feeling sad about it, but
[11:27] Speaker 2: I'm wanting to embrace being a grandma and invest in
[11:32] Speaker 2: those grandchildren. But Nev's like, I'm loving the grandkids, but
[11:35] Speaker 2: I don't want them to be my life. So we're
[11:37] Speaker 2: kind of at these different levels. in our lives with that.
[11:41] Speaker 1: And that transition is huge. When they all leave home,
[11:44] Speaker 1: this is what Ricardo and I found, when they all
[11:47] Speaker 1: left and it was just us two, it was like, oh, okay.
[11:51] Speaker 1: And we had to re-find ourselves. Yeah. Because you're so
[11:55] Speaker 1: invested in raising your kids, putting them through school, supporting them,
[11:59] Speaker 1: The ups, the downs, the good, the bad. Yeah. That
[12:02] Speaker 1: then you kind of think, oh gosh, I'm not quite
[12:05] Speaker 1: sure who that person is anymore that I'm married to.
[12:08] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[12:09] Speaker 1: It's like you've got to kind of reintroduce each other
[12:11] Speaker 1: to yourself.
[12:12] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[12:12] Speaker 1: Like the trip that we've just had, Ricardo and I,
[12:15] Speaker 1: we have had the best time.
[12:17] Speaker 2: Really?
[12:17] Speaker 1: The best time. We had so much fun.
[12:20] Speaker 2: But do you feel like you've reignited something?
[12:22] Speaker 1: I think it's always been there. Yeah. And the boys
[12:24] Speaker 1: have been gone a while. Oh, yeah.
[12:26] Speaker 2: Okay.
[12:26] Speaker 1: And Jack's just moved back home for a little while.
[12:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[12:29] Speaker 1: It's just nice to be together like just us.
[12:32] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[12:33] Speaker 1: Not having to worry about anybody else.
[12:35] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it?
[12:37] Speaker 1: And you think that there's women that don't have that.
[12:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have the partner.
[12:41] Speaker 1: They don't have the partner.
[12:43] Speaker 2: Or their partner doesn't want to.
[12:45] Speaker 1: Partner doesn't want to travel, isn't that keen to socialise.
[12:48] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[12:49] Speaker 1: It is awful. Yeah.
[12:51] Speaker 2: See, they need to. Find a way forward. Yeah, they do.
[12:55] Speaker 2: Or they shrivel up and sit on the couch and watch.
[12:57] Speaker 1: TV for the rest of their lives. They do, and
[12:58] Speaker 1: they wait for the kids to call.
[13:00] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[13:00] Speaker 1: And they're not going to call unless they want something
[13:02] Speaker 1: or they're washing washed.
[13:04] Speaker 2: This is a really sad conversation.
[13:06] Speaker 1: But it needn't be.
[13:07] Speaker 2: No, I know. What's the solution?
[13:09] Speaker 1: There are places to meet people. Yeah. Since COVID-19. Everybody
[13:13] Speaker 1: is now moving into doing events and going places and
[13:16] Speaker 1: doing things. There's more women's travel groups than there ever
[13:20] Speaker 1: has been because of this, you know, wanting to connect
[13:23] Speaker 1: and travel and go overseas. It's not doom and gloom.
[13:27] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[13:28] Speaker 1: It's saying to yourself, you know what, I want more.
[13:31] Speaker 1: I want to do more. I'm going to do that
[13:34] Speaker 1: and I'm going to connect. Yeah.
[13:35] Speaker 2: So find a hobby maybe?
[13:36] Speaker 1: Find a hobby. Find a book club.
[13:38] Speaker 2: Join a club.
[13:39] Speaker 1: You know, go and volunteer somewhere. Be of service to
[13:44] Speaker 1: some organisation. Reconnect with a sport.
[13:48] Speaker 2: Maybe reconnect with an old friend.
[13:50] Speaker 1: An old friend. Pick up the phone. Yeah. And if not,
[13:53] Speaker 1: come to me. It's all social and we're happy to
[13:54] Speaker 1: have you. But it's not the end is what I'm
[13:57] Speaker 1: trying to say. Just because you're 50 and you're now
[14:00] Speaker 1: on your own or things have changed, friendships have finished,
[14:03] Speaker 1: there's more.
[14:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think also you can't really give if
[14:07] Speaker 2: you haven't got. Like you kind of got to fill
[14:10] Speaker 2: your cup first before you can give to somebody else, right?
[14:12] Speaker 2: So how can you have a fulfilling relationship with your
[14:17] Speaker 2: partner or husband or with your kids if you're not
[14:20] Speaker 2: filling that side up yourself?
[14:22] Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I always, when the boys were little, I
[14:25] Speaker 1: would always go overseas every year to see a friend overseas.
[14:29] Speaker 2: Oh, really?
[14:30] Speaker 1: So I was always very conscious of doing things... for
[14:34] Speaker 1: me yeah because i felt by doing that for me
[14:37] Speaker 1: it made me a better parent yeah because i could
[14:41] Speaker 1: then make sure that all their needs were being met
[14:44] Speaker 1: yeah and their love and life and they're happy.
[14:47] Speaker 2: Yeah see i've never done stuff for.
[14:50] Speaker 1: Me really yeah that surprises me.
[14:54] Speaker 2: Guilt mother guilt mother guilt yeah she's a beast that
[14:58] Speaker 2: mother girl yeah she is a beast I've never been one.
[15:01] Speaker 2: I mean, I do now occasionally go away with some
[15:04] Speaker 2: girlfriends on a weekend away or a trip or something
[15:07] Speaker 2: like that, maybe once a year for a couple of
[15:10] Speaker 2: days or something. But, yeah, I've never been that. And
[15:13] Speaker 2: I think I feel more guilty now because I spend
[15:16] Speaker 2: a lot of time away from home now and away
[15:19] Speaker 2: from my husband that I feel even more guilty taking
[15:22] Speaker 2: time away from myself. I just need to get over myself.
[15:27] Speaker 2: I'm not that special. I need to not feel so guilty. No,
[15:30] Speaker 2: I think. And they don't care. They don't make me
[15:32] Speaker 2: feel guilty. It's purely self-inflicted.
[15:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, but you reach the point where you're totally burnt out.
[15:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[15:38] Speaker 1: And you need that little bit of a.
[15:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I need to do that. I feel
[15:41] Speaker 2: a challenge coming on.
[15:43] Speaker 1: I do feel a challenge coming on. Don't invest everything
[15:47] Speaker 1: in that for kids.
[15:48] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[15:49] Speaker 1: You've got to get out and make connections and, you know,
[15:52] Speaker 1: build that network because when the kids are gone, God
[15:55] Speaker 1: love them living their best lives, you know, and hubby's
[15:58] Speaker 1: at golf or whatever, you need to be doing.
[16:01] Speaker 2: You need to fill yourself with something.
[16:03] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[16:03] Speaker 2: And if you sit still, you die.
[16:05] Speaker 1: You've got to move. Yeah, you've got to keep moving.
[16:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to keep everything, keep moving.
[16:10] Speaker 1: Mobility is everything. Yeah, absolutely.
[16:12] Speaker 2: Everything. And that's keeping busy and keeping active. It's all
[16:16] Speaker 2: part of the friendship.
[16:16] Speaker 1: And building little neuropathways to build that brain up. So
[16:20] Speaker 1: what's your challenge? I feel it's going to be friendship orientated.
[16:24] Speaker 2: You think?
[16:25] Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, let me think of one.
[16:27] Speaker 2: This is not something that I prepared earlier. I'm going
[16:30] Speaker 2: to challenge people to reconnect with someone from their past.
[16:35] Speaker 1: Beautiful.
[16:35] Speaker 2: Pick up the phone, send an email, send a text message.
[16:41] Speaker 2: Reconnect might be the first step. It might be easier
[16:43] Speaker 2: to reconnect than to start something new. But if you
[16:46] Speaker 2: don't have someone to reconnect with, can I suggest you
[16:50] Speaker 2: look up Still Social and maybe see if you can
[16:52] Speaker 2: connect with someone there.
[16:54] Speaker 1: A little bit of a.
[16:55] Speaker 2: A little bit of a plug there for Still Social.
[16:57] Speaker 1: Thanks for the little plug for that. No, but it's
[17:00] Speaker 1: all good. Yeah. Get out there and do it.
[17:01] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[17:02] Speaker 1: I want to challenge those women that have met somebody
[17:06] Speaker 1: that are having conversation, but they've not yet gone that
[17:10] Speaker 1: little extra step. They haven't asked for the phone number.
[17:13] Speaker 1: They haven't go on. Hey, you know what? I've got
[17:16] Speaker 1: half an hour. Do you want to catch up for
[17:17] Speaker 1: a coffee? Are you free now? So then, you know,
[17:20] Speaker 1: you're stepping outside your comfort zone. Yeah. You're putting yourself
[17:23] Speaker 1: out there. Yeah.
[17:24] Speaker 2: Taking the first step.
[17:25] Speaker 1: All right. So go and order that coffee, ladies.
[17:27] Speaker 2: Yeah. Or a glass of vino.
[17:29] Speaker 1: Oh, please. I'm there. A little cardinale.
[17:31] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[17:32] Speaker 1: A little cardi.
[17:33] Speaker 2: All right. Next week, episode seven, it will be marriage, relationships,
[17:38] Speaker 2: and not murdering each other.
[17:39] Speaker 1: Oh.
[17:40] Speaker 2: Sounds like a perfect topic for us, don't you think?
[17:43] Speaker 1: Absolutely.
[17:44] Speaker 2: See you next week.
[17:44] Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you, love.

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