# Abdul El-Sayed: When Money Talks, The People Pay

An episode of [The Vic Mensa Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/6800160324), 21 Oct 2026, 1 h 01 min.

Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/433/claritaspod.com/measure/traffic.megaphone.fm/QCD5670939226.mp3

Vic Mensa trades sets on the bench with Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, the Michigan doctor running to become the first Muslim elected to the United States Senate, then takes it inside for a conversation about faith as accountability and the roots of Islamophobia. They talk Arab, Muslim and Black solidarity in Detroit, what it means to speak plainly about Palestine and why Abdul sees American health care as a racket. It all comes back to one question: what would we build if we treated all our kids like all our kids? 📱 Follow @vicmensa · @abdulelsayed 🎤 Guest: Dr. Abdul El-Sayed (00:00) Let’s put some plates on (03:27) “A terrorist to the Senate” (06:29) Faith as accountability (11:25) The DNA of Islamophobia (17:13) Henry Ford, Arab Detroit and Motown (20:25) Arab, Muslim and Black solidarity (29:22) Palestine and the price of speaking up (34:35) Top five Detroit artists (37:24) The health care racket (45:51) Getting money out of politics Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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