# Something about knots and shoelaces?

An episode of [James O'Brien's Mystery Hour](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/666751844), 8 Aug 2024, 49 min.

Audio: https://dax.captivate.fm/45ae5490-e52f-431d-90aa-422f09fec332/mh-08-08.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=440e25b1-172f-47c5-8f97-732f37e90572&aw_0_1st.episodeid=140b181f-ce4a-4218-a5dd-a9f5cd7a4782

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