# Sawbones: Matilda and Telekinesis

An episode of [Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/665149280), 16 Jun 2026, 33 min.

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Dr. Sydnee is joined this week by Charlie and Cooper, who are starring in a production of Matilda, and therefore experts in . . . telekinetic government experiments. The three McElroys talk about the unsuccessful history of trying to prove – or create – people moving objects with their minds, including Uri Geller and the CIA. Music: "Medicines" by The Taxpayers https://taxpayers.bandcamp.com/ Lamda Legal: https://lambdalegal.org/ Help support this show and unlock bonus content! Become a member at https://maximumfun.org/joinsawbones

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