# Ep 3356: Arsenal Draw, Maresca's Plank, Pep's Paradigm - 22/09/25

An episode of [The Second Captains Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/647893016), 22 Sep 2025, 1 h 03 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/627a2e8f84f3d50012cf11fb/e/68d1493074f88c8247828700/media.mp3

What must it be like to go to sea on what is expected to be a normal fishing expedition, only for the captain to go mad and start forcing random crew members to walk the plank? The Chelsea players got to find out on Saturday evening as Enzo Maresca’s flurry of first half substitutions sent an already-entertaining game into the realm of farce. We talk about that game and the tribulations of a couple of Ireland players before Miguel Delaney and Jacob Hawley join us to talk about Arsenal’s draw with Manchester City. What was it about Arsenal’s starting XI that set off mutinous rumblings at the Emirates? Is Pep Guardiola really embracing anti-football? And what does Arsenal’s “spring-cleaning” of Tim Lewis suggest about the direction of the club? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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