# Campus interview: Nicholas Dirks, president and CEO of the New York Academy of Sciences

An episode of [Campus Talks by Times Higher Education](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/588209017), 27 Apr 2023, 47 min.

Audio: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/gu39hm/Dirks_FINAL_2.mp3

Dr. Nicholas Dirks is a higher education leader, an historian, the former chancellor at the University of California, Berkeley and the current president and CEO of the New York Academic of Sciences. In this interview he explains why interdisciplinarity might be harder to achieve than some might think, how to communicate the public good of science to various audiences, and if science should be leveraged in geopolitics.

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