# #1297: Commander Design with Melissa DeTora

An episode of [Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/580709168), 28 Nov 2025, 32 min.

Audio: https://media.transistor.fm/7b75d6dc/6776ecfd.mp3

In this podcast, I sit down with Melissa DeTora, the leader of the Casual Play Design team, to talk about Commander design.

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