# Q&A: New Heaven and New Earth, the 144,000, and Origins of Races

An episode of [Bible Answer Man Podcast with Hank Hanegraaff](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/569236334), 26 May 2026, 28 min.

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On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast (05/26/26), Hank shares on how nothing compares to the excitement of memorizing God’s Word. God has told us to write His Word on the tablet of our hearts. Hank also answers the following questions: Clarify the New Heaven and New Earth. Will Heaven be on Earth? Tad - Memphis, TN (2:35) Regarding Revelation 3:12, why did Jesus say, “the temple of my God” instead of “my Temple”? Geoff - Calgary, AB (6:47) What’s your opinion on Kent Hovind? Geoff - Calgary, AB (15:12) Will only 144,000 people go to heaven at the rapture, or will there only be 144,000 people saved after the rapture? Charles - Fresno, CA (17:00) If all humans came from one man, why are there so many differences in appearance? Shaju- Edmonton, AB (23:37)

## Transcript

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[0:51] Speaker 2: Well. One of the best things that ever happened to
[0:53] Speaker 2: me as a new believer was being told that all
[0:56] Speaker 2: Christians memorize the Bible. By the time I found out
[1:00] Speaker 2: that not all of them did, I was already hooked.
[1:04] Speaker 2: Now as I look back, I can truthfully say that
[1:07] Speaker 2: nothing compares with the excitement of memorizing the word of God.
[1:11] Speaker 2: God has told us to write his word on the
[1:14] Speaker 2: tablet of our hearts, and with that call he has
[1:18] Speaker 2: provided the ability. Your mind is like a muscle. If
[1:22] Speaker 2: you exercise it, you will increase its capacity to remember
[1:27] Speaker 2: and recall. If you don't like a muscle, it will atrophy.
[1:31] Speaker 2: There are some practical tips for you to get started
[1:34] Speaker 2: in memory. They are to set goals. I've often said
[1:38] Speaker 2: he wims at nothing, invariably hits it. Make those goals attainable.
[1:42] Speaker 2: If your goals are unrealistic, you will undoubtedly become discouraged
[1:46] Speaker 2: and give up. Then memorize with a family member or
[1:50] Speaker 2: a friend. Memorizing with someone else's enjoyable and will also
[1:55] Speaker 2: make you accountable. And then use normally unproductive time to
[2:00] Speaker 2: review what you have memorized, such as while waiting in
[2:03] Speaker 2: a line, perhaps at the airport, or when you're falling asleep.
[2:08] Speaker 2: There's no time like the present to get started, and
[2:12] Speaker 2: a good place to begin is Joshua one to eight.
[2:16] Speaker 2: Do not let this book of the Law depart from
[2:18] Speaker 2: your mouth. Meditate on a day and night so that
[2:22] Speaker 2: you may be careful to do everything written in it.
[2:26] Speaker 2: Then you will be prosperous and successful. If you want
[2:31] Speaker 2: true prosperity, there it is. Let's go right to the
[2:35] Speaker 2: phone calls. First up is Tad in Memphis, Tennessee.
[2:39] Speaker 3: Hi, Tad, Thanks have a relation with John. Say we'll
[2:43] Speaker 3: be creating new Heaven, new Earth, and the Neutralsigne comes
[2:46] Speaker 3: down from heaven, and then the tone of God also so,
[2:50] Speaker 3: and we are teaching to we spend attention in a heaven.
[2:54] Speaker 3: But doesn't say Price went back to have what the
[2:58] Speaker 3: stents went back to heaven. So my question is is
[3:02] Speaker 3: heaven will be here on earth? Well?
[3:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, and this universe itself will be our playground as
[3:08] Speaker 2: it were. And I think that you're right to point
[3:13] Speaker 2: to what the scriptures tell us in Revelation chapter twenty one,
[3:17] Speaker 2: where you see a new heaven and a new Earth
[3:20] Speaker 2: for the first heaven and first Earth that passed away.
[3:23] Speaker 2: There's no longer any sea. The Holy City, the new Jerusalem,
[3:27] Speaker 2: comes down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride,
[3:31] Speaker 2: beautifully dressed for her husband, and a loud voice from
[3:34] Speaker 2: the throne says, now the dwelling of God is with men,
[3:39] Speaker 2: and he will live with them. They will be as people,
[3:43] Speaker 2: and God himself will be with them and be their God.
[3:46] Speaker 2: And this really conjures up visions of what happened in
[3:51] Speaker 2: Genesis where God creates Adam and Eve, and Adam and
[3:55] Speaker 2: Eve have fellowship with God, which is to say God
[3:59] Speaker 2: himself traverse this planet, that God himself and what oftentimes
[4:06] Speaker 2: is seen as a theophany or a christophany, was encountering
[4:12] Speaker 2: human beings in the cool of the day. In other words,
[4:16] Speaker 2: all language pointing that God himself dwelt with us. And
[4:20] Speaker 2: that's what we look forward to in a renewed Heaven
[4:25] Speaker 2: and a renewed Earth, wherein dwells righteousness, no more death,
[4:28] Speaker 2: no more mourning, no more crying, no more pain, but
[4:31] Speaker 2: a real physical existence in a real physical universe. So
[4:37] Speaker 2: the metaphor of heaven and Earth here is pointing to
[4:43] Speaker 2: what God created, which will be reconstituted, as it were,
[4:50] Speaker 2: without the stain of sin and death. And the question
[4:55] Speaker 2: that you asked there for is not a peripheral kind
[4:58] Speaker 2: of an issue. It's not kind of attillating question that
[5:02] Speaker 2: might be nice to speculate about, but it speaks to
[5:06] Speaker 2: what all Christians look forward to. We look forward to
[5:10] Speaker 2: the resurrection of the dead. We likewise look forward to
[5:18] Speaker 2: the resurrection of the planet. Indeed, we look forward to
[5:24] Speaker 2: the resurrection of the universe. So we're going to be changed,
[5:29] Speaker 2: and the universe itself will be transformed. Paradise lost therefore
[5:36] Speaker 2: will become paradise restored. And if you can't get excited
[5:41] Speaker 2: about that, pray tell what can you get excited about?
[5:47] Speaker 2: We look forward. As mortal humans, our lifespan is three
[5:54] Speaker 2: score plus ten years, or if by reason to strength,
[6:00] Speaker 2: four score. Now think about that, seventy or eighty years.
[6:03] Speaker 2: And if you look through the obituaries, you see a
[6:05] Speaker 2: lot of people dying in their fifties, some of their seventies,
[6:09] Speaker 2: some of their nineties. But the reality is the living
[6:13] Speaker 2: know they will die, that the death rate is one
[6:17] Speaker 2: per person. We're all going to make it. And only
[6:19] Speaker 2: in Christianity do we become greater after death than we
[6:25] Speaker 2: were before death. For only in Christianity are mortal bodies
[6:29] Speaker 2: transformed like unto his resurrected body. If you really want
[6:34] Speaker 2: to understand the resurrection and its import for you as
[6:37] Speaker 2: a believer, I wrote a book about this called Resurrection.
[6:42] Speaker 2: You go to the web at equipped dot org and
[6:45] Speaker 2: simply ordered, let's go back to the phone lines. We'll
[6:48] Speaker 2: talk next to Jeff. He's listing on Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
[6:51] Speaker 4: Hi, Jeff, Hey, Hey, how are you brother?
[6:54] Speaker 2: I'm good? How are you?
[6:55] Speaker 5: Oh?
[6:56] Speaker 4: Well, I'm sitting here trying to well hoping that Mother
[6:59] Speaker 4: Nature's going to figure out what she wants to make
[7:01] Speaker 4: it winter or spring or summer. But other than that,
[7:03] Speaker 4: I think I'm doing all right.
[7:04] Speaker 2: Well, that's the problem with living in Calgary, but that
[7:07] Speaker 2: is a beautiful place.
[7:09] Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you think so. But I have a
[7:11] Speaker 4: couple of questions. One of them have been struggling with
[7:14] Speaker 4: for the past little while. I was confronted by some
[7:16] Speaker 4: Jehovah's witnesses a while ago, and it's in regard to
[7:19] Speaker 4: I think Revelations three twelve, where it says to him
[7:23] Speaker 4: that overcomes, I will build, I will write his name
[7:25] Speaker 4: in the temple of my God. Now, and I've asked
[7:29] Speaker 4: so many people, and I haven't been given a straight
[7:32] Speaker 4: answer as to why if it's Christ that is speaking. Now,
[7:35] Speaker 4: I understand that like Christ is God, everybody knows that.
[7:38] Speaker 4: I mean, there's three who's in one. What now if
[7:41] Speaker 4: Christ is if he's been resurrected and he's been glorified,
[7:45] Speaker 4: and he is equal with God, why is he saying
[7:49] Speaker 4: in the temple of my God instead of my temple?
[7:54] Speaker 2: Right? But remember that the fact that Jesus Christ is
[7:57] Speaker 2: equal to God does not mean that there are not
[8:01] Speaker 2: personal self distinctions within the Godhead.
[8:06] Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, this three who's in one way?
[8:08] Speaker 2: Yes. And then also Jesus Christ distinguishes himself from all
[8:14] Speaker 2: other humans. We're sons by adoption. He is the son
[8:21] Speaker 2: by nature. And if you look at the context of
[8:24] Speaker 2: the passage, you see that the Father's name is being
[8:29] Speaker 2: written on the forehead. You see that by comparing scripture
[8:32] Speaker 2: with scripture, go for example to Revelation chapter fourteen, where
[8:38] Speaker 2: John looks and there before him is a lamb. The
[8:42] Speaker 2: lamb is standing on Mount Zion, and with him one
[8:45] Speaker 2: hundred and forty four thousand who had his name and
[8:49] Speaker 2: his father's name written on their foreheads. And of course
[8:55] Speaker 2: the one hundred and forty four thousand is the four
[8:58] Speaker 2: complement of God's people. The idea is, it's a beautiful
[9:02] Speaker 2: structure that you have in the Book of Revelation, where
[9:05] Speaker 2: you have the twelve apostles of the Lamb, and you
[9:09] Speaker 2: have the twelve tribes of Israel multiplied by thousand, to
[9:15] Speaker 2: give you an idea of the full complement of God's people.
[9:21] Speaker 2: One other point, Jesus Christ is still and will forever
[9:26] Speaker 2: be the god Man. He is our intercestor before the
[9:29] Speaker 2: Father and will be our intercestor before the Father, forever
[9:36] Speaker 2: and ever and ever. That will never change. So Jesus
[9:40] Speaker 2: Christ is never going to change in terms of being
[9:44] Speaker 2: one person, that one person with two natures, one hundred
[9:50] Speaker 2: percent human and one hundred percent divine. So when we.
[9:54] Speaker 4: Encounter Christ internally God, but he will forever be since
[9:58] Speaker 4: he stepped down from their he will be eternally the
[10:01] Speaker 4: god Man.
[10:02] Speaker 2: Right, he has been exalted, so he no longer has
[10:07] Speaker 2: limited his prerogatives of divinity. In the incarnation, Jesus Christ
[10:11] Speaker 2: voluntarily takes on the limitations of humanity. He doesn't divest
[10:17] Speaker 2: himself of a single attribute of deity, but he voluntarily
[10:22] Speaker 2: becomes a servant. He has now exalted, so he's not
[10:26] Speaker 2: limiting those prerogatives and any sense today. But he is
[10:29] Speaker 2: yet one person with two natures. He's forever the answerpist
[10:34] Speaker 2: the god Man.
[10:35] Speaker 4: Okay, wonderful, and you know, thank you so much. You
[10:38] Speaker 4: are the only person so far that has been able
[10:40] Speaker 4: to answer that in a way that I can understand
[10:43] Speaker 4: it and that actually makes sense. Everybody else they just say, well,
[10:46] Speaker 4: you know, it's the wording of the way scripture is written,
[10:49] Speaker 4: or it's just the way the Trinity works, and nobody's
[10:51] Speaker 4: been able to answer that. So thank you so very
[10:54] Speaker 4: very very much.
[10:55] Speaker 2: You got it.
[10:56] Speaker 4: My next question and it's very very simple, and I
[10:59] Speaker 4: know there's a lot of controversy about them and.
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[15:10] Speaker 2: Thank very much, Randy, and let me go quickly back
[15:12] Speaker 2: to Jeff in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. You had one final question,
[15:16] Speaker 2: and that question is I just want to know.
[15:19] Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of controversies surrounding this guy.
[15:22] Speaker 4: What's your opinion on Kent Hovey.
[15:25] Speaker 2: Well, the best I can say is that he's a
[15:27] Speaker 2: biblically unreliable teacher. He was extraordinarily divisive in his dogmatism,
[15:35] Speaker 2: even questioning the Christian confession of believers who hold to
[15:41] Speaker 2: an Old Earth.
[15:42] Speaker 4: Now there are talked about Hugh Ross.
[15:45] Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I don't agree with Hugh Ross on
[15:49] Speaker 2: many points, but I do not question his integrity as
[15:54] Speaker 2: a Christian. Not only that, but he's King James' version only.
[15:59] Speaker 2: Speaking of Kent Hooven, he lends credence to Bible codes,
[16:05] Speaker 2: Gospel in the Stars, pyradmidology. He suggests that the sons
[16:11] Speaker 2: of God in Genesis six were fallen angels who had
[16:13] Speaker 2: sexual relations with women to produce half demon half human offspring.
[16:19] Speaker 2: So it's one either conspiracy theory after another or misinterpretation
[16:25] Speaker 2: of the scripture. So, for example, with the Gospel and
[16:28] Speaker 2: the Stars, he takes the natural use of the stars
[16:33] Speaker 2: which God ordained, and perverts the use for special revelation,
[16:41] Speaker 2: so he reads a magical meaning, or even the Gospel
[16:45] Speaker 2: and the Stars meaning in an inappropriate sense. I've written
[16:49] Speaker 2: about this in various places, and we've done some great
[16:53] Speaker 2: work in the Christian Research Journal and this as well.
[16:55] Speaker 2: It's probably up on the webit equipped dot org. But
[16:57] Speaker 2: in short, he's just an unreliable to Let's go back
[17:01] Speaker 2: to the phone lines. Now, we'll talk next to Charles.
[17:03] Speaker 2: He's listening. I'm Fresno, California. Hi, Charles.
[17:06] Speaker 6: Hello. My question is about the one hundred forty four thousand.
[17:09] Speaker 6: Is that to say that all one hundred and forty
[17:12] Speaker 6: four thousand are going to heaven or was that saying
[17:15] Speaker 6: that after the rap there will still be one hundred
[17:17] Speaker 6: and forty four thousand here to preach to those who
[17:21] Speaker 6: are born after the rapture.
[17:23] Speaker 2: Well, I don't personally hold to the premise of people
[17:27] Speaker 2: being born after a rapture. I believe that Jesus Christ
[17:32] Speaker 2: had it right when he said, do not be amazed
[17:34] Speaker 2: at this The time is coming, when all who are
[17:36] Speaker 2: in the grace will come out. Some will rise to live,
[17:39] Speaker 2: and some will rise to be condemned. And to suggest
[17:43] Speaker 2: that the twelve thousand from each of the twelve tribes
[17:46] Speaker 2: means exactly twelve thousand, not eleven thousand, nine hundred and
[17:51] Speaker 2: ninety nine or twelve thousand and one must surely stretch
[17:56] Speaker 2: credulity beyond the breaking pointicly in light of the fact
[18:01] Speaker 2: that ten of the twelve tribes lost their national identity
[18:05] Speaker 2: almost three thousand years ago in the Assyrian exile. But
[18:08] Speaker 2: beyond that, the real meaning of one hundred and forty
[18:11] Speaker 2: four thousand is what I was alluding to earlier. It's
[18:15] Speaker 2: a number that represents the twelve apostles of the Lamb,
[18:18] Speaker 2: multiplied by the twelve tribes of Israel, multiplied by a thousand. Now,
[18:24] Speaker 2: this is not numerology, This is not taking something out
[18:30] Speaker 2: of whole cloth. This is not a fertile leap of imagination.
[18:36] Speaker 2: We can't ever do that. What you have to do
[18:39] Speaker 2: is always ground these kinds of definitions in the Biblical
[18:46] Speaker 2: text itself.
[18:47] Speaker 6: So the Bible actually gives an exact number of how
[18:50] Speaker 6: many people are going to have it.
[18:51] Speaker 2: No, no, that's my whole point. It's a figurative use
[18:54] Speaker 2: of the number twelve in its multiples, and that's well
[18:58] Speaker 2: established in biblical history. For example, the Tree of Life
[19:02] Speaker 2: in Paradise is said to bear twelve crops of fruit,
[19:08] Speaker 2: yielding its fruit every month. Not only that, but the
[19:11] Speaker 2: figurative use of the whole number one thousand is common
[19:15] Speaker 2: in Old Testament usage. God increased the number of Israelites
[19:20] Speaker 2: a thousand times, or even if a thousand shekels were
[19:24] Speaker 2: weighed out into my hands, I would not lift my
[19:26] Speaker 2: hand against the king's son. Many different examples of how
[19:32] Speaker 2: thousand as a whole number is used in a figurative sense.
[19:36] Speaker 2: So the idea here is the one hundred and forty
[19:38] Speaker 2: four thousand represents true Israel as it was intended to be,
[19:43] Speaker 2: in perfect symmetry and providentially sealed. And we see that
[19:49] Speaker 2: use again in the scripture in the Old Testament, and
[19:53] Speaker 2: therefore we should ground our interpretation there. And then ultimately
[19:58] Speaker 2: then the one hundred and forty four thousand and is
[20:00] Speaker 2: what it's the purified bride from every nation, every tribe,
[20:05] Speaker 2: every people, every language that will step over Jordan into
[20:10] Speaker 2: the New Jerusalem, prepared for her from the foundations of
[20:14] Speaker 2: the world. One hundred and forty four thousand, then, is
[20:17] Speaker 2: the limitless great multitude of all whose names are written
[20:22] Speaker 2: in the Lamb's Book of Life, of all who will
[20:25] Speaker 2: inhabit the courts of God for all eternity. So we
[20:28] Speaker 2: shouldn't take it in a wooden literalistic sense. We should
[20:32] Speaker 2: take it in the sense in which it's intended. It's
[20:35] Speaker 2: intended to communicate a great multitude.
[20:39] Speaker 6: I see. So the number itself is not what he's
[20:43] Speaker 6: trying to tell us. It's the great number of people
[20:46] Speaker 6: who are going. That was just another way of saying.
[20:48] Speaker 2: It's another way of talking about the great multitude. And
[20:52] Speaker 2: let me expand on that for just a moment. The
[20:55] Speaker 2: one hundred and forty four thousand in the Great Multitude
[20:58] Speaker 2: spoken of in the Book of Reveel are not two
[21:01] Speaker 2: different peoples, as some suppose, but there are two different
[21:05] Speaker 2: ways of describing the same purified Lamb. So literarily, then
[21:12] Speaker 2: the one hundred and forty four thousand and the Great
[21:14] Speaker 2: Multitude are comparable to the lion and the Lamb. You
[21:20] Speaker 2: find a lion in the Lamb in Revelation. So just
[21:23] Speaker 2: as John is told about a lion, and he turns
[21:26] Speaker 2: to see a lamb in Revelation chapter five. So he's
[21:29] Speaker 2: told about one hundred and forty four thousand and turns
[21:32] Speaker 2: to see a great multitude in Revelation chapter seven. So
[21:36] Speaker 2: the one hundred and forty four thousand is to the
[21:38] Speaker 2: Great Multitude what the lion is to the lamb. In
[21:41] Speaker 2: other words, the same entity seen from two different vantage points.
[21:48] Speaker 6: One vantage point and the lamb were a representation of
[21:52] Speaker 6: Jesus Christ.
[21:53] Speaker 2: That's right, spirit, Yeah.
[21:55] Speaker 6: So how can the one hundred and forty four thousand
[21:58] Speaker 6: be a representation of jesa Is Christ and the line
[22:01] Speaker 6: of the lamb? If you study Revelations, it shows you
[22:04] Speaker 6: that the line and the lamb were another way of saying.
[22:07] Speaker 2: Jesus right exactly, And that's my point. I'm not saying
[22:11] Speaker 2: the one hundred and forty four thousand is the lion
[22:14] Speaker 2: in the lamb. What I'm saying is literarily, the one
[22:17] Speaker 2: hundred and forty four thousand and the Great Multitude are
[22:21] Speaker 2: comparable to the lion and the lamb. What I mean
[22:25] Speaker 2: by that is that lion and lamb are two different
[22:29] Speaker 2: ways of referring to Jesus Christ. As you just correctly noted.
[22:33] Speaker 2: The same thing is true with the one hundred and
[22:35] Speaker 2: forty four thousand and the Great Multitude. The one hundred
[22:39] Speaker 2: and forty four thousand and the Great Multitude is the
[22:43] Speaker 2: same entity seen from two different vantage points. From one
[22:49] Speaker 2: vantage point, the puritified lamb is numbered. From another, she's innumerable,
[22:55] Speaker 2: a great multitude that no one can count. So the
[22:58] Speaker 2: point here, and you've made the point by asking the question.
[23:02] Speaker 2: We have no problem whatsoever referring to Jesus Christ on
[23:06] Speaker 2: one occasion as a lamb. On another casion is a lion.
[23:10] Speaker 2: He's a lion of the tribe of Judah. He's a
[23:12] Speaker 2: lamb slain before the foundations of the world. These are
[23:14] Speaker 2: two different ways, two different contexts in which we are
[23:18] Speaker 2: referring to the same person, Jesus Christ. This is the
[23:22] Speaker 2: same thing that's going on with one hundred and forty
[23:24] Speaker 2: four thousand of Great Multitude, the same entity seen from
[23:28] Speaker 2: two distinct vantage points.
[23:31] Speaker 6: Ah, okay, thank you for clearing that us.
[23:34] Speaker 3: You've got it.
[23:34] Speaker 2: God bless you appreciate your call. Let's go right back
[23:37] Speaker 2: to the phone lines. Talk to Shouldew in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
[23:41] Speaker 5: High Hi, I have a question. I believe that what
[23:46] Speaker 5: Bibler talks about that from one man, all human beings
[23:50] Speaker 5: have been originated. Yes, right, how can there be so
[23:53] Speaker 5: many people with the color differences? Like why brown moancholic?
[23:57] Speaker 5: And all.
[24:00] Speaker 2: Right? Remember that there are differences within kinds. In the
[24:05] Speaker 2: evolutionary process, one kind develops into another kind, but never
[24:08] Speaker 2: in a Biblical perspective, so you don't have as in
[24:12] Speaker 2: the Darwinian paradigm. Darwin spoke of how the Caucasian race
[24:17] Speaker 2: had beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence,
[24:20] Speaker 2: so he saw gradation of races, a hierarchy of races,
[24:23] Speaker 2: as you were. The Bible never sees that. What we
[24:25] Speaker 2: do recognize is what geneticists call the founder principle. Groups
[24:31] Speaker 2: are isolated because of the confusion of their languages at Babel,
[24:36] Speaker 2: and as a result of that, they only drew upon
[24:40] Speaker 2: a fraction of the total gene pool. And evolutionists believe
[24:45] Speaker 2: that some races, of course, are more advanced than others.
[24:48] Speaker 2: But we completely dispense with that. We only see differences
[24:52] Speaker 2: as a result of genetic inheritance and different genetic factors.
[24:57] Speaker 2: But we're just human beings and our genetic determined by
[25:01] Speaker 2: this founder principle that I just mentioned.
[25:03] Speaker 5: But we come to know that in Genesis chapter eight
[25:06] Speaker 5: and nine, Noah his family was the only family left
[25:11] Speaker 5: out of the flood. And as the whole people in
[25:15] Speaker 5: the world now are originator from Seamham and David well.
[25:20] Speaker 2: Yeah, actually eight people in all are saved in the Yeah, yeah,
[25:24] Speaker 2: saved in the water of the flood. And so what
[25:26] Speaker 2: happened is it's true to go back to your original
[25:29] Speaker 2: question from one man, God created every nation event that
[25:32] Speaker 2: they shouldn't have it the whole earth at the flood,
[25:35] Speaker 2: only eight survived. And therefore, from Adam to Noah and
[25:41] Speaker 2: his progeny, you get what we have in humanity today.
[25:46] Speaker 2: So we're all descendants of Adam through Noah, and we
[25:52] Speaker 2: might have different characteristics as you mentioned, some have more
[25:56] Speaker 2: pigmentation than others, some have different eye color, but we're
[26:00] Speaker 2: all fully human and at the foot of the cross,
[26:03] Speaker 2: of course, we never think about race. We think about relationship.
[26:07] Speaker 2: Where unified in a relationship to Jesus Christ. We're out
[26:11] Speaker 2: a time for this edition of the Biplanesman Broadcast. Look
[26:13] Speaker 2: forward to see you next time right here with more
[26:16] Speaker 2: of the show.
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