# Best of BAM: Standing For Truth, and Q&A

An episode of [Bible Answer Man Podcast with Hank Hanegraaff](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/569236334), 23 May 2026, 28 min.

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On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast, Hank shares on truth being an aspect of the nature of God. Truth is not pragmatism, subjectivism, or relativism, but it is anything that corresponds to reality. Hank also answers the following questions: Can we take Joshua 1:5 personally in the sense that God will never leave or forsake us, too? John - Calgary, AB (3:58) Is it possible that Jesus was raised before the three days but revealed Himself after the third day? Linda - OH (6:32) In 1 Samuel 28, did the medium conjure the real Samuel, or was it a demon? Anna-Marie - Edmonton, AB (9:12) How do I tithe when I do not have a church home? Gail - Tracy, CA (15:12) What did Jesus mean in saying to Saul that it is hard to kick against the goads in Acts 9:5? Louise - Summer Hill, IL (21:00)

## Transcript

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[0:46] Speaker 1: was prerecorded and now here's Bible Answerman host Hank Canagraph.
[0:52] Speaker 2: Thank you very much forr Andy, and we'll go right
[0:53] Speaker 2: to our callers in just a moment. But I wanted
[0:55] Speaker 2: to mention how important it is for you to stand
[1:00] Speaker 2: with this ministry because truth matters. Of course, truth is
[1:03] Speaker 2: an aspect of the nature of God. Christianity is not
[1:07] Speaker 2: true because it works. That's pragmatism. It's not true because
[1:12] Speaker 2: it feels right. That's subjectivism. It's not true because it's
[1:18] Speaker 2: my truth. That's relativism. Christianity is true because it is
[1:24] Speaker 2: anchored in the person of Christ. Furthermore, it's important to
[1:31] Speaker 2: recognize that truth is anything that corresponds to reality. As such,
[1:39] Speaker 2: truth does not yield to the size and strength of
[1:45] Speaker 2: the latest lobby group, nor is truth merely a matter
[1:49] Speaker 2: of preference or opinion. Truth is true even if everyone
[1:55] Speaker 2: denies it, and a lie a lie even if everybody affirms.
[2:02] Speaker 2: And truth, of course, is essential to a realistic worldview.
[2:07] Speaker 2: When sophistry, sensationalism, when supersition, when they together sabotage truth,
[2:16] Speaker 2: our view of reality becomes seriously skewed. And that is
[2:21] Speaker 2: precisely what is happening today with prophecy pundits who are
[2:28] Speaker 2: seriously skewing the reality of truth in the minds of
[2:33] Speaker 2: so many because they pretend that their truth comes from
[2:40] Speaker 2: the truth the final court of arbitration, when in fact
[2:45] Speaker 2: it comes from their own subjective flights a fancy. And
[2:52] Speaker 2: in the end, while sensationalism prevails for a moment, the
[3:00] Speaker 2: Savior's name in the end will be dragged through the mud.
[3:07] Speaker 2: That is why it is so important for you to
[3:09] Speaker 2: take this opportunity to equip yourself to always be ready
[3:12] Speaker 2: to give an answer. Again. We do what we do
[3:17] Speaker 2: because truth matters. We don't do what we do because
[3:23] Speaker 2: it's politically correct. We don't do what we do because
[3:27] Speaker 2: it's popular. We don't do what we do to gain
[3:33] Speaker 2: a bigger platform. We do what we do because over
[3:38] Speaker 2: the years I have recognized that people are making life
[3:42] Speaker 2: decision on the basis of the skin of the truth
[3:47] Speaker 2: stuffed with a great big lie. Ideas have consequences. We'll
[3:54] Speaker 2: go right now to the phone calls. First up, I
[3:59] Speaker 2: want to talk to John listening in Calgary, Alverta, Canada. Hi.
[4:03] Speaker 3: John, Hey, Hank, how you doing.
[4:06] Speaker 2: I'm well, good talking to you, good.
[4:07] Speaker 3: Talking you too. Just want to let you know that
[4:10] Speaker 3: I've been listening to your program since nineteen eighty eight,
[4:15] Speaker 3: five days a week.
[4:16] Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
[4:18] Speaker 3: And my pleasure. And you spoke here one time at
[4:20] Speaker 3: the Curry Barracks and I was in attendance there and
[4:26] Speaker 3: I also bought your book Christianity and Crisis. That was
[4:32] Speaker 3: amazing that it was like I was being shot out
[4:35] Speaker 3: of a canon with my faith. Wow, And I really
[4:39] Speaker 3: you know that it's so foundational for a lot of
[4:41] Speaker 3: believers to have discernment to understand about the kingdom and
[4:47] Speaker 3: the cults and about these false preachers.
[4:50] Speaker 2: Well, thank you for the encouragement. John. It means the
[4:52] Speaker 2: world to me.
[4:53] Speaker 3: The question I have for you, Hank is Joshua one
[4:58] Speaker 3: verse five. Now the Lord is speaking to Israel. Now
[5:04] Speaker 3: can we take that verse personally? I will never leave
[5:08] Speaker 3: you in nor forsake you. When he's speaking to Israel.
[5:10] Speaker 3: Can we take that personally or is it strictly to
[5:14] Speaker 3: the land of Israel.
[5:16] Speaker 2: Well, this is given within the context of a historical narrative,
[5:20] Speaker 2: so it is directed in a very poignant fashion to
[5:24] Speaker 2: a person as I was with Moses. So I too
[5:29] Speaker 2: will be with you. I will never leave you or
[5:31] Speaker 2: forsake you. So this has ramifications for Joshua, has ramifications
[5:36] Speaker 2: for Israel, but in principle it certainly has ramifications for
[5:40] Speaker 2: us as well. So imbued in this promise to a
[5:44] Speaker 2: pacific people and a specific person is a promise to
[5:49] Speaker 2: us as those who are heirs of the promise, those
[5:53] Speaker 2: of us who are in reality rightly called true Israel.
[5:58] Speaker 2: And remember, on the New Testament language that is used
[6:02] Speaker 2: for Old Testament Israel is recapitulated and used for us.
[6:07] Speaker 2: We are priests, We're a holy nation, We're a royal priesthood.
[6:12] Speaker 2: We're called out so in principle this does apply specifically
[6:19] Speaker 2: and directly to us, although this is given in a
[6:22] Speaker 2: historical perspective to a person and a people perfect.
[6:27] Speaker 3: That's why I thought, Hank, thank you very much.
[6:29] Speaker 2: You got it. Thank you so much for your call.
[6:31] Speaker 2: I want to go back to the phone lines now.
[6:32] Speaker 2: Talk to Linda. She's listening in Ohio.
[6:36] Speaker 3: Hi, Linda, Hi, how are you good?
[6:39] Speaker 2: How are you?
[6:40] Speaker 4: My sister and I were talking one day. We were
[6:43] Speaker 4: talking about the possibility of when Jesus said that he
[6:48] Speaker 4: would be dead for three days and they were not
[6:51] Speaker 4: allowed to do anything on the Sabbath. Is this a
[6:53] Speaker 4: possibility that God did raise Jesus prior to the three days,
[6:59] Speaker 4: and that he was walking the earth and by the
[7:03] Speaker 4: time they could get to the Sabbath or the day
[7:06] Speaker 4: after the Sabbath was the third day when they were
[7:09] Speaker 4: allowed to do things.
[7:11] Speaker 2: No, the text specifically tells us that Jesus rose on
[7:15] Speaker 2: the third day, not before the third day nor after
[7:18] Speaker 2: the third day, but rather Matthew six day and tells
[7:22] Speaker 2: us specifically that Jesus rose on the third day. And
[7:26] Speaker 2: I think it's important too to recognize the days have significance.
[7:31] Speaker 2: Jesus died on Passover day or Friday, to fulfill the
[7:36] Speaker 2: conditions of being our Pascal or our passover Lamb. Also
[7:41] Speaker 2: recognize that imbued in the whole chronology is a Jesus
[7:47] Speaker 2: who fulfills all the types in shadows, and therefore a
[7:51] Speaker 2: Jesus in whom we can have our Sabbath rest. The
[7:56] Speaker 2: text tells us the gospel specific Clay, they say that
[8:01] Speaker 2: he died and was buried the day before the Sabbath
[8:06] Speaker 2: or Friday, and rose on the day after the Sabbath
[8:12] Speaker 2: or on Sunday. So I think we have to take
[8:14] Speaker 2: the text at face value and then see the beauty
[8:18] Speaker 2: that is imbued in the text from a symbolic standpoint,
[8:21] Speaker 2: because Jesus is the passover Lamb, and from that point
[8:27] Speaker 2: on no longer is Passover meaningful except in a historical perspective.
[8:33] Speaker 2: So we don't, as Christians celebrate Passover, we celebrate the
[8:38] Speaker 2: Lord's Supper. Do this in remembrance of Me, because the
[8:44] Speaker 2: types and shadows of temple, priests and sacrifice are fulfilled
[8:48] Speaker 2: in His sacrifice on the cross. Therefore, Jesus on the
[8:52] Speaker 2: cross could say it is finished, or to tell us
[8:55] Speaker 2: die secular coin a great the language of the day
[8:58] Speaker 2: saying is that the debt is paid in full.
[9:05] Speaker 4: Okay, thank you very much and gah blessure in your ministry.
[9:08] Speaker 2: Thank you, Linda, appreciate your call. I want to go
[9:11] Speaker 2: back to the phone lines. We'll talk next to Anna Marie.
[9:15] Speaker 2: She's listening in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. High Animary, thank you for.
[9:20] Speaker 5: Taking my call. I was reading in First Summul, chapter
[9:25] Speaker 5: twenty eight, and God did not answer Saal anymore. So
[9:30] Speaker 5: he consulted a medium, which brought up somewhere was this
[9:35] Speaker 5: really summer or what this a demon looking like summer?
[9:39] Speaker 5: Because God didn't want to answer some sult anymore.
[9:43] Speaker 2: Well, I don't think there's any question whatsoever that this
[9:47] Speaker 2: was Samuel. If you read the account, it is clearly
[9:53] Speaker 2: Samuel who was brought back. But this is not done
[9:59] Speaker 2: by the witch a vendor. This is done in spite
[10:04] Speaker 2: of the witch of vendor, and that is why she
[10:07] Speaker 2: is so amazed and also frightened when Samuel appears. So
[10:12] Speaker 2: this is not normative. This is a sovereign act of
[10:16] Speaker 2: God to judge the first king of Israel.
[10:22] Speaker 5: I'm glad you said that, because my friend said to me,
[10:25] Speaker 5: God doesn't cut people back out of paradise, and I said, well,
[10:30] Speaker 5: what about the transfiguration, you know when Elijah and Moses
[10:34] Speaker 5: came up, And he said, well, that's different, you know,
[10:36] Speaker 5: but I do believe that it was an act of
[10:39] Speaker 5: God in spite of that medium.
[10:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right. And remember I use the
[10:45] Speaker 2: word normative. Your friend is partially right in saying that
[10:49] Speaker 2: God does not do this on a regular basis. So
[10:53] Speaker 2: when it does happen, such as what you find in
[10:56] Speaker 2: for Samuel twenty eight or on the amount of trans configuration,
[11:01] Speaker 2: these are not normative experiences, right.
[11:05] Speaker 5: Thank you very much, you got it.
[11:07] Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call. Take more of
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[15:15] Speaker 2: in Tracy, California.
[15:16] Speaker 1: Hi, Gail, Hi, how are you?
[15:18] Speaker 2: I'm good and good talking to you.
[15:20] Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call. I don't know question. I
[15:24] Speaker 7: don't currently have a church home, and I kind of,
[15:30] Speaker 7: let you know, family activities and things like that kind
[15:33] Speaker 7: of stop me from or prevent me from going to
[15:37] Speaker 7: church on a regular basis. But I still wanted to
[15:40] Speaker 7: pay my tithing, and I was wondering, if I don't
[15:43] Speaker 7: have a church home, how do you still fulfill that part?
[15:47] Speaker 7: If you know, how can you feel do that or
[15:50] Speaker 7: should I just find a church home.
[15:52] Speaker 2: Well, I think you should find a church home. I
[15:54] Speaker 2: do not neglect the gathering of yourselves together, as is
[15:57] Speaker 2: the custom of some. There's a a real necessity for this, Gail.
[16:03] Speaker 2: First of all, you want to make sure that you
[16:05] Speaker 2: recognize that when you become a believer, you weren't born
[16:08] Speaker 2: again as a lone ranger Christian. You were born into
[16:10] Speaker 2: a family. And that family, the Universal Church of God,
[16:14] Speaker 2: is expressed in local congregations. So you want to find
[16:18] Speaker 2: a congregation which you can worship God through prayer, praise,
[16:22] Speaker 2: and the proclamation of the Word. A congregation which you
[16:25] Speaker 2: can experience genuine oneness with other brothers and sisters who
[16:28] Speaker 2: need you as much as you need them. And then
[16:31] Speaker 2: a church in what you're being equipped to communicate what
[16:35] Speaker 2: you believe in why you believe. In other words, you
[16:38] Speaker 2: need to find a healthy, well balanced church. So, since
[16:41] Speaker 2: you're starting at square zero, I'd love to give you
[16:43] Speaker 2: some recommendations of churches in your area if you want
[16:46] Speaker 2: to hang on in the meantime. Yeah, I mean, you
[16:49] Speaker 2: want to make sure that you use your resources in
[16:52] Speaker 2: a prudent way, which is to say, you want to
[16:54] Speaker 2: look for ministries that are really making a difference. If
[16:58] Speaker 2: you're going to make an inventvestment in a company because
[17:02] Speaker 2: you wanted to make a wise stock purchase, you would
[17:07] Speaker 2: really do some due diligence or has someone do some
[17:09] Speaker 2: due diligence for you, so that there's a good return
[17:12] Speaker 2: on your investment. I think the same thing is true
[17:14] Speaker 2: from a spiritual standpoint. You want to invest in ministries
[17:18] Speaker 2: or organizations which are really making a difference for time
[17:22] Speaker 2: and for eternity, because we are at the end of
[17:25] Speaker 2: the day going to be called into account for what
[17:26] Speaker 2: we did with our time, our talent, and our treasure.
[17:32] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[17:33] Speaker 7: Well, I think I haven't really founded a church home
[17:35] Speaker 7: yet because I mean I've been around the church all
[17:38] Speaker 7: my life, but I've just in the past couple of years,
[17:42] Speaker 7: I've really been trying to figure out what it is
[17:46] Speaker 7: that I you know, where I stand, like what I
[17:49] Speaker 7: believe and you know, and I've been tending to gear
[17:54] Speaker 7: more toward like non denominational churches. And I listened to
[17:58] Speaker 7: a lot of of course, you know, top church on
[18:04] Speaker 7: the you know that's done that have a broadcast or
[18:07] Speaker 7: TV or on the radio. But I'm still kind of
[18:10] Speaker 7: trying to find my way basically, yeah.
[18:12] Speaker 2: And part of that, Gail, I think it's important for
[18:14] Speaker 2: you to recognize what you're looking for. He who aims
[18:18] Speaker 2: at nothing invariably hits it right. So you don't want
[18:21] Speaker 2: to shoot the arrow and then draw the bullseye around
[18:24] Speaker 2: where it lands. You want to figure out where the
[18:26] Speaker 2: bullseye is to start with. And so it's important at
[18:29] Speaker 2: this stage of your life to know the very things
[18:32] Speaker 2: that you're seeking to know. But in doing that, do
[18:35] Speaker 2: remember that in essentials there has to be unity. Non
[18:40] Speaker 2: essentials liberty and all things charity. We can disagree on
[18:46] Speaker 2: some of the secondary issues, but in the essentials we
[18:49] Speaker 2: stand shoulder to shoulder. So even though we disagree on
[18:54] Speaker 2: some of the secondary issues, we recognize that this is
[18:57] Speaker 2: an area that we can have the experience of iron
[19:00] Speaker 2: sharpening iron and then the process together we're growing.
[19:04] Speaker 7: Right, And I think that's kind of where I am.
[19:06] Speaker 7: I mean, I feel that religion is more man made,
[19:12] Speaker 7: you know. I tend to kind of go towards you know,
[19:17] Speaker 7: as long as you're reading the Bible and I can understand,
[19:21] Speaker 7: you know, it's relatable to me, you know, and and
[19:24] Speaker 7: reading the Bible, you're reading from the same doctrine that
[19:27] Speaker 7: I'm reading from, and there there is some of course,
[19:31] Speaker 7: like you said, there's going to be some disagree agreement
[19:34] Speaker 7: in some of the I guess is the activities of
[19:37] Speaker 7: the church, you know, But as long as they're on
[19:41] Speaker 7: the whole, we agree.
[19:43] Speaker 2: You know, on the essentials of the historic Christian faith.
[19:45] Speaker 2: Remember that Jesus Christ is building a bride, and you
[19:49] Speaker 2: can think about this as a mosaic or a temple.
[19:53] Speaker 2: However you think about it. You're one of the stones.
[19:55] Speaker 2: You're one of those stones in the mosaic, You're one
[19:57] Speaker 2: of these stones in the temple. But He's built holding
[20:00] Speaker 2: a bride, and you're part of that process. So don't
[20:03] Speaker 2: try to go it alone. You want to be part
[20:05] Speaker 2: of a healthy, well balanced church.
[20:08] Speaker 7: And so just going back to so in the meantime,
[20:10] Speaker 7: far is that considered tithing if you're contributing to like
[20:16] Speaker 7: some of the top ministries are well, I.
[20:19] Speaker 2: Wouldn't look at it necessarily in a legalistic way. I mean,
[20:22] Speaker 2: the idea gale is to hold what you have with
[20:25] Speaker 2: an open hand so that God can take out and
[20:27] Speaker 2: put in as he sees fit. So you want to
[20:30] Speaker 2: invest in those ministries that are really making a difference,
[20:35] Speaker 2: really touching the lives of people for time and for eternity,
[20:39] Speaker 2: building the body of Christ, giving people an eternal perspective.
[20:44] Speaker 2: Look for ministries like that to invest in. And then
[20:47] Speaker 2: the thing that you do as you give is you
[20:49] Speaker 2: find out that you can never outgive the Lord. So
[20:52] Speaker 2: tithing becomes the training wheels forgiving.
[20:55] Speaker 7: Right right, all right, thank you very much, bless you, Gail.
[20:59] Speaker 2: I appreciate your called Back to the phone lines, we'll
[21:01] Speaker 2: talk to Louise Say on Summer Hill, Illinois. Hi Louise, Well.
[21:06] Speaker 8: Hi Hank. I've got a question. And my husband and
[21:10] Speaker 8: I have brought over for several weeks, so we've been
[21:14] Speaker 8: trying to get a hold of you. We've got some
[21:17] Speaker 8: commentaries even with cliffs and all that, but we live
[21:21] Speaker 8: in a small country towns and stuff. Not much what
[21:26] Speaker 8: we want to know, and we understand. I don't understand persecution,
[21:30] Speaker 8: but I understand the word when he says, I am
[21:33] Speaker 8: Jesus whom you are persecuting, it is hard for you
[21:37] Speaker 8: to kick against the goads. How is Jesus saying that
[21:42] Speaker 8: to him? It is hard for you to kick against
[21:46] Speaker 8: the goads? He was like a terrorist and he reveled
[21:52] Speaker 8: in persecuting children and men and women and killing people.
[21:59] Speaker 8: And think, what's Jesus, it is hard for you to
[22:04] Speaker 8: kick against the goats. We understand what goats are because
[22:09] Speaker 8: we've grown up here around you know, you heard cattle,
[22:12] Speaker 8: and we've got hobs and stuff and everything. But there's
[22:16] Speaker 8: something there. It's hard for you to kick against the goats.
[22:21] Speaker 8: What does they mean? It is hard? And how's he's
[22:25] Speaker 8: saying it? It's I don't think it's sarcasm or anything.
[22:29] Speaker 2: But well, remember, metaphors do not walk on all fours.
[22:35] Speaker 2: Metaphors are figures of speech, and they have sharp teeth.
[22:39] Speaker 2: They're pointing to a reality. So if I say it's
[22:42] Speaker 2: running cats and dogs, you don't say, you know, I
[22:45] Speaker 2: work on a farm and I know about cats and
[22:47] Speaker 2: dogs and Cali running cats and dogs, cats and dogs
[22:50] Speaker 2: flying on the sky. I mean, you don't think that way.
[22:51] Speaker 2: You say. This is a metaphor which is intending to
[22:54] Speaker 2: communicate that it's raining hard and the same thing is
[22:58] Speaker 2: going on in this particular con text. The idea of
[23:02] Speaker 2: the metaphor is to say, to a human being who
[23:07] Speaker 2: is breathing wrathful insults and vile persecution is being exacted
[23:13] Speaker 2: upon people at his hand. It is saying to that person,
[23:17] Speaker 2: you are fighting against God. It's hard for you to
[23:21] Speaker 2: fight against God. So he's using a metaphor that would
[23:26] Speaker 2: be a familiar metaphor for someone who is educated in
[23:32] Speaker 2: the Greek language. So there are metaphors that don't translate
[23:35] Speaker 2: from one culture to another culture, or from one discipline
[23:39] Speaker 2: to another discipline. But Paul is using metaphorical language with
[23:44] Speaker 2: King Agrippa, and course Christ here who is being quoted,
[23:49] Speaker 2: is in essence being quoted using a metaphor that very
[23:54] Speaker 2: clearly is letting Paul know that this is not the
[23:57] Speaker 2: arm of flesh he's fighting. Ultimately, he's fighting the arm
[24:01] Speaker 2: of God.
[24:03] Speaker 8: So can we come to some understanding of Paul's character
[24:08] Speaker 8: with this? Is this something we should understand that was
[24:13] Speaker 8: in Paul that Jesus Christ was addressing.
[24:18] Speaker 2: Well, you don't remember that Paul is reiterating something in
[24:21] Speaker 2: this particular context. He's recommunicating something that happened before. He's
[24:26] Speaker 2: talking to King Agrippa about an experience that he had.
[24:29] Speaker 2: Because this Jesus.
[24:31] Speaker 8: Says, it's hard for you to kick against the goads.
[24:35] Speaker 2: Right, Well, remember what's going on here, Louise, is that
[24:38] Speaker 2: Paul is before King Agrippa, and Paul is now communicating
[24:44] Speaker 2: the experience of meeting Jesus Christ on the road to Damascus.
[24:50] Speaker 8: Well, I'm looking at when Paul slayd and it says
[24:54] Speaker 8: who are you Lord? And he says, I'm Jesus. You
[24:58] Speaker 8: persecute me. It's hard for you to kick against the goads.
[25:04] Speaker 8: And I'm trying to figure out what I feel like
[25:08] Speaker 8: there's something there that I'm missing, Like, I know it's
[25:12] Speaker 8: not sarcasm, but you know, is there a character in
[25:18] Speaker 8: Paul that I should get from Jesus addressing him and
[25:22] Speaker 8: saying it's hard for you. Is there something revealed there?
[25:27] Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I mean what's going on here is not
[25:29] Speaker 2: difficult to understand. What's going on here ultimately, is Paul
[25:34] Speaker 2: is explaining to King Agrippa what happened on the road
[25:39] Speaker 2: to Damascus and how Jesus Christ confronted him and let
[25:43] Speaker 2: him know that he was not fighting against mere men,
[25:48] Speaker 2: but he was fighting against God. So he's communicating a
[25:51] Speaker 2: gospel to King Agrippa in language that King Agrippa could
[25:56] Speaker 2: relate to. We're at a time for this edition of
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