# Q&A: Abraham’s Test, Resurrection, and the Eternality of Hell

An episode of [Bible Answer Man Podcast with Hank Hanegraaff](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/569236334), 7 May 2026, 28 min.

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On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast (05/07/26), Hank answers the following questions: Why did God tell Abraham to sacrifice Isaac? Anna - Tulsa, OK (1:43) Will Christians have physical bodies after the resurrection at the second coming of Christ? Alan - OK (8:08) Jesus cast out demons from people, but where did the demons come from? Alan - OK (9:14) Is Hell eternal? Are there second chances? Michael - Franklin, TN (15:12)

## Transcript

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[1:43] Speaker 2: Let's go right to our phone callers in and in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
[1:46] Speaker 3: Hyenna, Well, thank you so much for taking my call,
[1:50] Speaker 3: and I'm going to do a little testimony to start with.
[1:53] Speaker 3: I've listened to you almost everythince you've been on the radio,
[1:55] Speaker 3: and I've had taught Bible study for nine years and
[1:58] Speaker 3: I couldn't never done it without you. I have most
[2:00] Speaker 3: of your books. I'll have the autograph one and I
[2:03] Speaker 3: have the smaller. I got those right here beside me
[2:05] Speaker 3: right now. I usually keep them here when I study
[2:07] Speaker 3: my Bibles. Get my Bible studies together. Also, I'm going
[2:12] Speaker 3: to be eighty six years old. But I have one
[2:15] Speaker 3: little question. Well I have two, actually, but one of
[2:17] Speaker 3: them is simple. We know that God knows everything. Why
[2:22] Speaker 3: did God tell Abraham to sacrifice Isaac?
[2:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good question. This is a microcosm
[2:31] Speaker 2: of a grand meta narrative that is encapsulated in this
[2:34] Speaker 2: story in Genesis chapter twenty two, because you have the
[2:37] Speaker 2: Father of Faith instructed to sacrifice the son of the Promise.
[2:43] Speaker 2: And this is not a notion conjured up by child
[2:47] Speaker 2: sacrifices of pagan Canaanites, but it's a direct command from
[2:52] Speaker 2: the Father above to the Father of Faith, who reasoned
[2:56] Speaker 2: that God could raise the dead, told that by Hebrews
[3:01] Speaker 2: chapter eleven. So Abraham leaves Beersheba. He takes a three
[3:07] Speaker 2: day journey to the place in Jerusalem where a temple
[3:10] Speaker 2: would one day stand, and his sacrifice already accomplished through
[3:17] Speaker 2: the willingness to relinquish his firstborn son. So his sacrifice
[3:22] Speaker 2: was a sacrifice of the heart already made, and whether
[3:26] Speaker 2: Jehovah Jirah would allow a human sacrifice was forever settled
[3:32] Speaker 2: by the rustling of a ram in the thicket. Animal sacrifices,
[3:37] Speaker 2: not human sacrifice, would point forward to a divine sacrifice.
[3:45] Speaker 2: Three days after that sacrifice, of course, Christ would raise
[3:49] Speaker 2: himself from the dead, and in doing so he would
[3:51] Speaker 2: become the earnest of all those who one day will
[3:54] Speaker 2: rise from death to live in indu Jerusalem, coming down
[3:57] Speaker 2: out of heaven from God. The reason I point that
[4:00] Speaker 2: out in context is that you have a grand meta
[4:04] Speaker 2: narrative and this is a small microcosm of that meta narrative.
[4:07] Speaker 2: And so you see God's redemptive plan unfolding. So there's
[4:12] Speaker 2: a whole lot more going on than what first meets
[4:15] Speaker 2: the eye and what The problem here is that there's
[4:18] Speaker 2: many people who anachronistically will rip this passage out of
[4:23] Speaker 2: its context, and therefore they come up with a pretext
[4:26] Speaker 2: because they don't understand the grand meta narrative.
[4:29] Speaker 3: Though they said, what came up in Sunday school class.
[4:32] Speaker 2: Sunday, go ahead, I'm sorry, yeah, exactly. The point here
[4:35] Speaker 2: is to underscore the need to apprehend the essence of
[4:38] Speaker 2: a biblical worldview, and apart from that we miss the
[4:41] Speaker 2: import of the historical narrative is set forth here in
[4:45] Speaker 2: Genesis twenty two.
[4:46] Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, well. Another little question is do you think
[4:50] Speaker 3: Abraham knew that God would provide him a substitute for Isaac.
[4:54] Speaker 2: Yes, I do believe that Abraham knew, as the father
[4:58] Speaker 2: of faith, that God would not do what the Pagans
[5:02] Speaker 2: were doing. This was not about a human sacrifice which
[5:07] Speaker 2: was forbidden by God. This was going to be a
[5:11] Speaker 2: sacrifice pointing to something else. So Abraham made this sacrifice
[5:15] Speaker 2: in his heart because of his willingness, and knew that
[5:19] Speaker 2: Jehovah Jyrah had a plan that was beyond his kin,
[5:22] Speaker 2: something that he couldn't imagine, but that unfolded from a
[5:26] Speaker 2: historical perspective, and he saw it with his own eyes
[5:29] Speaker 2: and then saw that this pointed forward to something far grander.
[5:33] Speaker 2: And therefore the father of faith was given a glimpse
[5:37] Speaker 2: of a sacrifice that one day would come. He only
[5:40] Speaker 2: saw it through types and shadows. We see it with
[5:43] Speaker 2: precision because Christ has come, but he saw it by faith,
[5:46] Speaker 2: through types and shadows. And what an incredible story you
[5:50] Speaker 2: have right here, of a sacrifice that one day would
[5:54] Speaker 2: come and the redemption then would be complete.
[5:57] Speaker 3: Oh, that's just wonderful. Do you think that Abraham felt
[6:01] Speaker 3: that he was showing his obedience to God, you know,
[6:05] Speaker 3: to do what God told him to? Do you think
[6:06] Speaker 3: he felt obedience in his soul, in his heart?
[6:09] Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question about that. Absolutely. That's why I
[6:12] Speaker 2: say his sacrifice was already accomplished through his willingness to
[6:17] Speaker 2: relinquish his firstborn son. This was a sacrifice of the
[6:21] Speaker 2: heart he knew that God would be found faithful. He
[6:26] Speaker 2: didn't know how, but he was willing to make the
[6:29] Speaker 2: sacrifice in his heart, and therefore we can legitimately call
[6:33] Speaker 2: him the Father of faith.
[6:34] Speaker 3: Oh can you imagine the strength in his faith. I
[6:38] Speaker 3: listen to you every day, and I've done this for years,
[6:43] Speaker 3: so I can verify all you have said about how
[6:46] Speaker 3: people what they gain. You know, the people that we
[6:50] Speaker 3: touched is the few little things people that I have,
[6:53] Speaker 3: you know, feel like that I've made a great, great
[6:57] Speaker 3: accomplishment in witnessing for the Lord with your with your information.
[7:03] Speaker 2: Oh well, you have blessed my life call.
[7:08] Speaker 3: Of teaching it and h and my you know, and
[7:10] Speaker 3: my children and have four children, my baby sitty seven
[7:13] Speaker 3: years old. But anyway, I just needed to let you
[7:16] Speaker 3: know that that absolutely I don't know how anybody could
[7:20] Speaker 3: not listen to Hank Handigraph if they have time at all,
[7:23] Speaker 3: if they're into the Bible. My kids are all Bible scholars.
[7:27] Speaker 3: My husband was too. We had our own chapel. Well
[7:31] Speaker 3: you have been any longer, Hank, thank you so much
[7:34] Speaker 3: my call, and you can't imagine how you've helped me.
[7:37] Speaker 3: I can't even I can't put it into words. Thank
[7:40] Speaker 3: you so much, Hank. You just don't know what a
[7:42] Speaker 3: thrill it is for me to talk to you. And
[7:45] Speaker 3: God bless your family, all twelve kids and your wife.
[7:49] Speaker 1: Thanks.
[7:49] Speaker 2: Annah. Have to have a picture, Oh well, I'll send
[7:52] Speaker 2: one to you. You hang on, I'll get a picture
[7:54] Speaker 2: out to you.
[7:55] Speaker 3: Well, all right, thank you so very much.
[7:58] Speaker 2: Thanks Annah.
[7:59] Speaker 3: Can't imagine I'm just thrilled today.
[8:01] Speaker 2: Then well, I'll tell you what I don't know. If
[8:04] Speaker 2: she was thrilled to talk to me, you can't imagine
[8:06] Speaker 2: how thrilled I was to doctor her. I want to
[8:08] Speaker 2: go back to the phone lines. We'll talk next to Allan.
[8:11] Speaker 2: He is listening to Oklahoma High Allen, Hi, how you
[8:14] Speaker 2: doing good?
[8:17] Speaker 4: Resurrection? You know whether or not we're gonna be a
[8:19] Speaker 4: spiritual question bone was going to be a question bone resurrection?
[8:24] Speaker 2: That is correct. When the Lord appears the second time,
[8:27] Speaker 2: we will be physical. The Christian faith is not platonic.
[8:31] Speaker 2: It's very physical. We believe in the physical resurrection of
[8:34] Speaker 2: our bodies. We also believe in the physical resurrection of
[8:37] Speaker 2: the universe. So the universe now is groaning in travail,
[8:41] Speaker 2: awaiting its liberation from bondage to decay, it will be restored.
[8:48] Speaker 2: And that is what I mean when I say Paradise
[8:51] Speaker 2: lost will become Paradise restored. God himself will be with us.
[8:57] Speaker 2: He will be our God, we will be his people,
[9:00] Speaker 2: and we will live in a renewed cosmos. That is
[9:04] Speaker 2: precisely what we get out of Revelation chapter twenty one,
[9:08] Speaker 2: the presence of God with men.
[9:10] Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that's actually that was the main question
[9:13] Speaker 4: I had to I have one more quick question for you. Okay,
[9:16] Speaker 4: thought the other name when Jesus, you know, ministered that
[9:21] Speaker 4: three years healing the blind, name the paralyze, and he
[9:26] Speaker 4: would catch out demons. Where did the demons come from?
[9:31] Speaker 2: Well, remember, demons are non physical beings. They're real beings,
[9:38] Speaker 2: but they're non physical beings. The demons actually are fallen angels.
[9:45] Speaker 2: So God created angels, a host of angelic beings. Those
[9:52] Speaker 2: beings were created in such a way that they had
[9:56] Speaker 2: the requisite knowledge of the presence of God. But they
[10:00] Speaker 2: they were created as humans were created. They were created
[10:03] Speaker 2: as volitional beings, and therefore they could choose to serve
[10:08] Speaker 2: God or to reject God. And a third of the
[10:12] Speaker 2: angels fell with Satan because they of their own volition
[10:17] Speaker 2: or their own will, wanted to do it their own way,
[10:20] Speaker 2: so they rejected the glory and goodness of God and
[10:24] Speaker 2: turned their backs on what could have been theirs, an
[10:28] Speaker 2: eternal relationship with the one who created them. By their
[10:32] Speaker 2: own volition, they chose otherwise. And so hell we are
[10:36] Speaker 2: told in scriptures made for the Devil and his angels,
[10:39] Speaker 2: that of course, being the fallen angels, the ones who
[10:43] Speaker 2: rebelled with him.
[10:45] Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so yeah, I'm glad that you finished that
[10:48] Speaker 4: for me. Because I was talking to my such about it,
[10:51] Speaker 4: I could give her a straight answer.
[10:53] Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate your call. We'll be right back with
[10:55] Speaker 2: more of your questions right here on the Bible answer
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[15:12] Speaker 2: back to our phone callers. Next up is Michael listening
[15:15] Speaker 2: in Franklin, Tennessee.
[15:16] Speaker 5: Hi Michael, Hey, Hank, I appreciate you taking my call pleasure.
[15:21] Speaker 5: My question is actually about hell and whether Hell is
[15:26] Speaker 5: eternal or whether God would redeem and have mercy on
[15:32] Speaker 5: the dead after death to non believers to be able
[15:36] Speaker 5: to come to God at that point, and he'd be
[15:40] Speaker 5: able to save them. I guess I've struggled with this.
[15:43] Speaker 5: I was actually raised Jewish, I grew up in a
[15:46] Speaker 5: Jewish household, and I came to fall in love with
[15:50] Speaker 5: Lord Jesus Christ. But I guess my struggles are with
[15:55] Speaker 5: the idea that my great grandfather, who is a Holocaust,
[16:00] Speaker 5: is a great man with a heart of gold, that
[16:03] Speaker 5: you know that God wouldn't be able to give him
[16:07] Speaker 5: some mercy. And I do believe in a hell. I
[16:12] Speaker 5: just don't know at this point whether it's eternal or
[16:15] Speaker 5: whether God gives us who are worthy, gives us a
[16:19] Speaker 5: second chance after death.
[16:21] Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's very clear that it is appointed unto
[16:25] Speaker 2: man wants to die, and after that the judgment. Now
[16:31] Speaker 2: going to your grandfather as an example, there are a
[16:34] Speaker 2: couple of things I would say. First of all, how
[16:37] Speaker 2: do you know that he is not in the loving
[16:39] Speaker 2: presence of God? Or how do you know that he
[16:42] Speaker 2: will not be We respond to the light that we
[16:45] Speaker 2: have been given. If someone has the light of creation
[16:50] Speaker 2: and the light of conscience and they desire to have
[16:54] Speaker 2: further light, God will give them that light. And ultimately
[16:59] Speaker 2: we cannot be the judges of what happened in a
[17:02] Speaker 2: person's heart. Only God is that judge. But we do
[17:06] Speaker 2: know this that the problem has never been for humanity
[17:10] Speaker 2: a lack of light for your grandfather, my grandfather, me, you,
[17:16] Speaker 2: or anybody else. And Jesus made that emphatic when he
[17:20] Speaker 2: said light came into darkness. Men loved darkness rather than
[17:24] Speaker 2: light because their deeds are evil of one thing. We
[17:28] Speaker 2: can be absolutely certain anyone who wanted a relationship with
[17:32] Speaker 2: God could have that relationship with God. If people in
[17:38] Speaker 2: this life do not want a relationship with God, God
[17:43] Speaker 2: is going to ratify their choice in eternity. In other words,
[17:47] Speaker 2: he's not going to force himself on people in eternity.
[17:53] Speaker 2: And so we should add to that teaching another biblical
[17:58] Speaker 2: concept that is forgotten in the equation, and that is
[18:03] Speaker 2: that there are degrees of reward in heaven and degrees
[18:08] Speaker 2: of punishment in hell. We can safely say that the
[18:13] Speaker 2: hell of a Holocaust survivor who disdained God and didn't
[18:17] Speaker 2: want a relationship with him is likely not as horrific
[18:22] Speaker 2: as the hell of a Hitler who was involved in
[18:27] Speaker 2: eradicating millions of Jews and in fact, millions of people
[18:32] Speaker 2: in general. Thirteen fourteen million people six million or more Jews.
[18:37] Speaker 2: So what we're saying is that there are eternal consequences
[18:41] Speaker 2: to what we do in this life, and these eternal
[18:45] Speaker 2: consequences are everlasting. And this is not something that I'm
[18:51] Speaker 2: teaching or that I've come up with, or that I say, well,
[18:54] Speaker 2: you know, this is just how I think it should be. No,
[18:58] Speaker 2: this is what is taught insistently in the Bible. Second
[19:02] Speaker 2: Thessalonians one nine comes to mind. The wicked will be
[19:06] Speaker 2: punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence
[19:12] Speaker 2: of the Lord and from the majesty of his power. Now,
[19:16] Speaker 2: if the destruction is temporary, how can it be everlasting?
[19:20] Speaker 2: The plain reading of shut out from the presence of
[19:25] Speaker 2: the Lord implies continued existence. But more than that, we
[19:30] Speaker 2: know that God does not arbitrarily rub out the crowning
[19:34] Speaker 2: jewels of his creation just because they've chosen to live
[19:37] Speaker 2: apart from him. He continues to sustain them in existence,
[19:41] Speaker 2: albeit apart from His goodness, his glory, and his grace.
[19:45] Speaker 2: Why because that is what they want?
[19:49] Speaker 3: Right?
[19:50] Speaker 5: Okay? Yeah, I mean, and I asked because I've been
[19:52] Speaker 5: spending the last couple of weeks and I've been reading
[19:54] Speaker 5: Rapel's book Love Wins. It's just been a big struggle.
[19:58] Speaker 5: I'm assuming part of it being my ancestry, but I
[20:02] Speaker 5: know that it says that God wants all his children
[20:05] Speaker 5: to come on to him. And you know, I feel
[20:07] Speaker 5: lucky that I've found Jesus Christ, and I found it
[20:10] Speaker 5: to a very special man that I met. And I
[20:13] Speaker 5: thought about if I had you perished in a car
[20:16] Speaker 5: accident on the way to meet him and never got
[20:19] Speaker 5: the chance to understand the true Christ. It's a scary
[20:22] Speaker 5: thought to think that I would be not able to
[20:24] Speaker 5: be with God.
[20:25] Speaker 2: Right, But that is a wrong way of thinking about it.
[20:29] Speaker 2: Just to be plain with you, first of all, it's
[20:32] Speaker 2: not the absence of knowledge that damns. Is the despising
[20:37] Speaker 2: of knowledge that damns. Not only so, but you can
[20:43] Speaker 2: be absolutely certain that God has placed you and every
[20:47] Speaker 2: other person in a position such that they can respond
[20:53] Speaker 2: to His goodness and his grace. This is one thing
[20:57] Speaker 2: we learn in the Bible from one man. God made
[21:00] Speaker 2: every nation of men that they should inhabit the entire earth.
[21:06] Speaker 2: He determined the exact times and places that they should live.
[21:12] Speaker 2: And God did this as Paul, so that men may
[21:15] Speaker 2: seek him reach out for him and find him, though
[21:19] Speaker 2: he is not far from each one of us. So
[21:22] Speaker 2: God placed you, your grandfather, me, everyone else in ideal
[21:28] Speaker 2: circumstances so that we could respond to His grace. So
[21:32] Speaker 2: what I'm suggesting is it's no accident that you found
[21:35] Speaker 2: the Lord. You responded to the light of creation, You
[21:41] Speaker 2: responded to the knowledge of God written on the canvas
[21:44] Speaker 2: of your consciousness. And a result of that is that
[21:47] Speaker 2: God provided you with the normative means through which you
[21:51] Speaker 2: can embrace Him, which was a very seasoned person who
[21:55] Speaker 2: could articularly communicate the Christian faith. But remember even beyond that,
[22:02] Speaker 2: though that is the normative means, it's not the only means.
[22:06] Speaker 2: God can reach people directly without human agency, right, And
[22:12] Speaker 2: I want to say one other thing, as far as
[22:14] Speaker 2: rom Bel's book is concerned, it is a very deceptive book.
[22:18] Speaker 2: For example, if you read this book, he'll throw something
[22:21] Speaker 2: in like Martin Luther, and he will say Martin Luther,
[22:26] Speaker 2: one of the leaders of the Prison Reformation, wrote to
[22:28] Speaker 2: Hans van Rechtenberg in fifteen twenty two about the possibility
[22:32] Speaker 2: that people could turn to God after death, asking who
[22:36] Speaker 2: would doubt God's ability to do that? Well? This is
[22:41] Speaker 2: the kind of deception you'll find in this book. And
[22:44] Speaker 2: when you're appealing to Martin Luther, you're appealing to the
[22:47] Speaker 2: icon of the Reformation, and you're appealing to authority, and
[22:50] Speaker 2: you're thinking, my goodness, if Martin Luther believes this, well,
[22:55] Speaker 2: maybe there's some warrant for this. But this is deceptive.
[22:59] Speaker 2: It's complete, delely false, and one would suspect that the
[23:03] Speaker 2: author of the book knew it was completely false, because
[23:07] Speaker 2: you cannot read Martin Luther without recognizing that that quote
[23:12] Speaker 2: is followed by the words. No one, however, can prove
[23:16] Speaker 2: that he does do this, Otherwise every sermon the Gospel
[23:21] Speaker 2: and faith would be vain, false and deceptive, since the
[23:26] Speaker 2: entire Gospel makes faith necessary. So Martin Luther did not
[23:31] Speaker 2: believe that. He clearly explained that he did not believe that,
[23:36] Speaker 2: and he did so in the very next sentence. So
[23:40] Speaker 2: no one can take that quote and use it as
[23:44] Speaker 2: a basis to think that Martin Luther believed that there
[23:48] Speaker 2: was a second chance after death. Even beyond that, imagine
[23:53] Speaker 2: that all of a sudden in the twenty first century,
[23:56] Speaker 2: in the year twenty eleven, Rob Bell is the only
[24:00] Speaker 2: guy to discover this. My goodness, if this was true,
[24:04] Speaker 2: everyone would know about it. This would be earth shattering.
[24:09] Speaker 2: So you can't fall for this kind of deception that
[24:14] Speaker 2: so often you find in books by people who are
[24:18] Speaker 2: trying to make their point in an age in which
[24:22] Speaker 2: so often internet lies travel halfway around the world before
[24:28] Speaker 2: truth has had the chance to put its boots on.
[24:29] Speaker 2: In other words, people don't check into urban legends or
[24:35] Speaker 2: false information. They just, oh, my goodness, it's in a
[24:38] Speaker 2: popular books being sold to millions of people. Must be true.
[24:41] Speaker 4: I mean, well, I.
[24:42] Speaker 5: Mean, I think an issue for me is, you know,
[24:44] Speaker 5: I've always been socially very liberal and a person who
[24:48] Speaker 5: is also very knowledgeful in the Gospel and in Christ.
[24:52] Speaker 5: He basically told me, it just seems like I'm trying
[24:56] Speaker 5: to find ways to make Jesus and God conformed. So
[25:00] Speaker 5: what I want him to be or how I think
[25:02] Speaker 5: he should be fair and what's fair for me, and
[25:05] Speaker 5: how I can make the Gospel that way, and that's
[25:08] Speaker 5: just not you know, I can't do that so well.
[25:10] Speaker 2: And that's an astute observation in your part. We're going
[25:14] Speaker 2: to have a completely different valuation of things when we
[25:17] Speaker 2: stand in the greatest size with people from every tribe
[25:19] Speaker 2: and language and people in nation. Then we're going to
[25:22] Speaker 2: see things from the perspective of a holy and a
[25:25] Speaker 2: righteous God as opposed to seeing things through sin stained eyes.
[25:30] Speaker 2: We'll have a completely different valuation of things. So I
[25:34] Speaker 2: think the way you're thinking is the right way to think.
[25:37] Speaker 2: I mean, why do I believe what I do? I
[25:40] Speaker 2: believe what I do because I'm bowing my knee before
[25:43] Speaker 2: the infallible repository of redemptive revelation. Why do I do that?
[25:48] Speaker 2: Because there's a cumuative case that can be made for
[25:50] Speaker 2: the fact that the Bible is divine as opposed to
[25:53] Speaker 2: merely human in origin. You don't have to believe that
[25:56] Speaker 2: through blind faith. You can accept and hold onto that
[25:59] Speaker 2: as result of faith rooted in a refutable fact. Unfortunately,
[26:05] Speaker 2: we're out of time, but I really appreciated your call,
[26:08] Speaker 2: so long for now. We'll see you next time with
[26:11] Speaker 2: more the Bible Inchman Broadcast.
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