# Best of BAM Q&A: Division, Doubt, and Gossiping

An episode of [Bible Answer Man Podcast with Hank Hanegraaff](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/569236334), 4 Jul 2026, 28 min.

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On today’s Bible Answer Man broadcast, Hank opens with a Facebook question from someone who asked, “Is it unbiblical to call yourself a Calvinist or an Arminian; a Lutheran or an Augustinian?” Hank also answers the following questions: How could God fulfil a land promise in 1948 to a people we know genetically did not exist? Dan - CT (2:49) Can a Christian go to hell for doubting God one day and believing the next day? Derek - Indianapolis, IN (8:55) How should I confront a Christian who is gossiping? Dan - Vancouver, BC (15:11) Was Pilate washing his hands a sign of him feeling guilty or him justifying his actions? Jeff - Western, NE (17:02) I grew up in a dysfunctional home, and I am going to meet with my family. How should I handle this situation? Brenda - Flint Hill, MO (19:42)

## Transcript

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[0:44] Speaker 1: and now to begin today's broadcast, here's Hank Canagraph.
[0:48] Speaker 2: Thanks Randi, and we open the broadcast today with a
[0:51] Speaker 2: Facebook question. The question is is it unbiblical to call
[0:55] Speaker 2: yourself a Calvinist or an Arminian, a Lutheran or an Augustinian.
[1:02] Speaker 2: Does it fall under the principle that Paul taught to
[1:05] Speaker 2: the Corinthians to not say I follow Peter, Paul, of
[1:10] Speaker 2: paulis or Jesus. That's a good question, actually, and the
[1:16] Speaker 2: passage in question is in First Corinthians, chapter three, and
[1:20] Speaker 2: I think we have to look at the context of
[1:22] Speaker 2: that passage. But first of all, recognize that labels can
[1:26] Speaker 2: be useful for codifying complex sets of belief. So there's
[1:31] Speaker 2: a use for labels in that sense, but they can
[1:35] Speaker 2: certainly devolve into divisive demarcats, and we don't want to
[1:42] Speaker 2: ever be divisive. And remember that the maxim that we
[1:47] Speaker 2: stand for at the Christian Research Institute is in essentials, unity,
[1:52] Speaker 2: non essentials, liberty, and then in all things charity. But
[1:57] Speaker 2: the context of the passage in First Corinthians chapter three,
[2:00] Speaker 2: all failure to rise to Christian spiritual maturity. And that's
[2:05] Speaker 2: the goal. It is to become spiritually mature. Recognizing the
[2:10] Speaker 2: Lord's work is the opposite of taking sides and dividing
[2:14] Speaker 2: from fellow members of the church by following mere human men.
[2:19] Speaker 2: God has given each member of the Body of Christ
[2:22] Speaker 2: a roll, and we are to see God at work
[2:24] Speaker 2: through all And of course we see that in Romans
[2:27] Speaker 2: chapter twelve beautifully depicted. We are a body, and every
[2:31] Speaker 2: member of the body is significant. It is God. It's
[2:35] Speaker 2: not Luther or Calvin or Augustine. Who is the source
[2:40] Speaker 2: of everything. He is our source, and he is the
[2:43] Speaker 2: one in whom we are called to grow into spiritual maturity.
[2:48] Speaker 2: A lot of you hanging on We're going to go
[2:49] Speaker 2: right to the phone. Calls first up as Dan. He's
[2:53] Speaker 2: listening on the web in Connecticut. Hi.
[2:54] Speaker 3: Dan, Hi, And and how are you good? How are you good?
[2:58] Speaker 3: I want to thank you. Since I've been listening to you,
[3:02] Speaker 3: I've been able to take off the dispensational blinders, and
[3:07] Speaker 3: I think what you're doing is so important. I now
[3:10] Speaker 3: understand the hermeneutics and how to use the Bible to
[3:14] Speaker 3: interpret itself. I have a quick question, Hank, Yeah, how
[3:19] Speaker 3: could God fulfill a land promise in nineteen forty eight
[3:25] Speaker 3: to a people we know genetically did not even exist?
[3:29] Speaker 3: And how do I explain this to my friends at church?
[3:34] Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, a couple of things. First of all, I
[3:36] Speaker 2: don't think we want to get into people's genealogy. We
[3:40] Speaker 2: don't want to talk about race. What we want to
[3:44] Speaker 2: recognize is that God does not distinguish between people on
[3:50] Speaker 2: the basis of their characteristics. We are all people, and
[3:54] Speaker 2: at the foot of the cross, a Palestinian is as
[3:58] Speaker 2: worthwhile as a Messianic Jew. So God doesn't make distinctions artificially,
[4:04] Speaker 2: and nor should we, which is sort of in concert
[4:06] Speaker 2: with what I said in the opening to the broadcast,
[4:10] Speaker 2: answering a Facebook question. But I think more to the point,
[4:15] Speaker 2: the children of Israel were warned by Moses that if
[4:19] Speaker 2: they followed the detestable ways of the pagans living in
[4:24] Speaker 2: the Land of Promise, they would be driven out of
[4:27] Speaker 2: that land of Promise, and disobedience against the Lord caused
[4:32] Speaker 2: that to happen. It resulted in dispersion. And if you
[4:38] Speaker 2: are dispersed or evicted from the land because of disobedience,
[4:43] Speaker 2: you're not going to be brought back into the land
[4:47] Speaker 2: because of disobedience. And I think that it's important for
[4:52] Speaker 2: us to say that we can defend the right of
[4:55] Speaker 2: the secular state of Israel to exist. But the contention
[5:00] Speaker 2: that the modern state of Israel is fulfilling a biblical
[5:03] Speaker 2: prophecy is indefensible. I don't think that there's any biblical
[5:08] Speaker 2: defense for that whatsoever. In fact, if you look at
[5:11] Speaker 2: the words of Jesus Christ, he made it clear that
[5:16] Speaker 2: we should not be modern day Christian Zionists. What happened
[5:20] Speaker 2: with the disciples, they were under a misconception. They expected
[5:25] Speaker 2: Jesus to establish Jerusalem as the capital of a sovereign
[5:30] Speaker 2: Jewish empire. In fact, that notion was so ingrained in
[5:34] Speaker 2: their psychees that even as Jesus was about to ascend
[5:38] Speaker 2: it to heaven, they asked, Lord, are you at this
[5:41] Speaker 2: time going to restore the kingdom to Israel? But what
[5:45] Speaker 2: does Jesus do. He doesn't say, yes, he corrects erroneous thinking,
[5:53] Speaker 2: and then he expands their horizons from a tiny strip
[5:56] Speaker 2: of land on the east coast of the Mediterranean to
[6:00] Speaker 2: the ends of the earth. You will receive power when
[6:05] Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit comes on you, he said, as he
[6:08] Speaker 2: is about to be taken up into heaven, and you're
[6:09] Speaker 2: going to be my disciples in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and
[6:13] Speaker 2: to the ends of the earth. In effect, Jesus left
[6:17] Speaker 2: his disciples with instructions to exit Jerusalem, to embrace the earth,
[6:23] Speaker 2: and never entertain the thought of establishing an earthly Jerusalem.
[6:29] Speaker 2: And we see this clearly depicted in Galatians chapter four
[6:33] Speaker 2: by the apostle Paul, where he contrasts Hagar and Sarah.
[6:38] Speaker 2: Paul says, these things may be taken figuratively. For the
[6:42] Speaker 2: women represent to covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai
[6:46] Speaker 2: and bears children who are to be slaves. That's Hagar,
[6:50] Speaker 2: says Paul. Now Hagar stands from Mount Sinai in Arabia
[6:55] Speaker 2: and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she
[6:59] Speaker 2: is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem that
[7:02] Speaker 2: is above is free, says Paul, and she is our mother.
[7:06] Speaker 2: And in saying that, he's emphasizing that all who fixate
[7:11] Speaker 2: on an earthly Jerusalem with a rebuilt temple and reinstitute
[7:15] Speaker 2: temple sacrifices are in slavery to types and shadows. On
[7:20] Speaker 2: the other hand, all who recognize that the shadow of
[7:23] Speaker 2: Jerusalem has found fulfillment in the substance of Christ are
[7:27] Speaker 2: set free to inherit the earth. And that's the big point.
[7:32] Speaker 2: The point is not about a tiny piece of land
[7:35] Speaker 2: on the east coast of the Mediterranean Sea. Because the
[7:39] Speaker 2: Lord has replaced the land. He's the antetype, fulfilling the type.
[7:46] Speaker 2: Jesus has replaced Jerusalem, the teacher has replaced the temple,
[7:54] Speaker 2: all the law.
[7:55] Speaker 3: And prophets, everything that was written.
[7:57] Speaker 2: That's what Jesus said. He said, I did not come
[8:00] Speaker 2: to abolish the law and the prophets. I came to
[8:03] Speaker 2: fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until Heaven and
[8:05] Speaker 2: Earth disappear. Not the smallest letter, not the least stroke
[8:08] Speaker 2: of a pen will by any means disappear from the
[8:11] Speaker 2: law until everything has been accomplished. Jesus is the antetype
[8:15] Speaker 2: that fulfills all the types and shadows. And therefore I've
[8:18] Speaker 2: said this before, and I've written about this in The
[8:20] Speaker 2: Apocalypse Cut. To go back to types and shadows when
[8:23] Speaker 2: the ultimate sacrificial lamb has come is, according to Hebrews ten,
[8:27] Speaker 2: amount to trampling upon the sacred blood of Jesus Christ.
[8:31] Speaker 3: Hank, I have your book The Apocalypse Code upstairs. I
[8:34] Speaker 3: think I'm going to read it again, but I'm also
[8:37] Speaker 3: going to use Romans chapter nine, verse six, seven and
[8:42] Speaker 3: eight as kind of a foundation for my friends at church.
[8:48] Speaker 2: Well, bless you, my friend.
[8:49] Speaker 3: Appreciate talking to you so much for what you're doing.
[8:51] Speaker 2: Hank, you got it, Friend, you as well. Back to
[8:55] Speaker 2: the phone lines, Derek, he's listening on the web in Indianapolis, Indiana. Hi, Derek, Hi, Hang, I.
[9:03] Speaker 3: Had a question for you.
[9:05] Speaker 1: Can a Christian go to Hell for doubting one day
[9:08] Speaker 1: and believing God on the next day.
[9:11] Speaker 2: We all have doubts. I mean that's a human condition.
[9:14] Speaker 2: I mean there are times that you just are shaken
[9:16] Speaker 2: in your faith. And that's why we say you can
[9:19] Speaker 2: go back to the pillars and posts on which your
[9:24] Speaker 2: faith is founded, which is to say that we can
[9:27] Speaker 2: know that there's a God. The heavens declare the glory
[9:29] Speaker 2: of God, the skies proclaim the work of his hands,
[9:32] Speaker 2: or as Paul put it, God's invisible qualities, his eternal
[9:36] Speaker 2: power and divine nature clearly seen through what has been made,
[9:39] Speaker 2: so that men are without excuse. So you can go
[9:42] Speaker 2: back to those pillars and posts. The first being God exists,
[9:46] Speaker 2: the second being that God has condescended to reveal himself
[9:51] Speaker 2: in Christ, and the third being we can know that
[9:54] Speaker 2: the Bible is divine as opposed to merely human in origin.
[9:57] Speaker 2: In other words, we have ample evidence. So to we
[10:00] Speaker 2: have doubts is not the sin, But to remain in
[10:04] Speaker 2: doubt would be a sin, because God has left us
[10:07] Speaker 2: ample testimony, ample evidence. But the human condition is we
[10:11] Speaker 2: do have doubts, we do have fears. We are like
[10:14] Speaker 2: the children of Israel. God just does a miracle for us.
[10:17] Speaker 2: He sends the Manna, and the next month we're saying, God,
[10:21] Speaker 2: are you going to do this again? I find myself
[10:23] Speaker 2: in that condition all the time. God has done enormous
[10:27] Speaker 2: miracles for the Christian Research Institute over the years, and
[10:30] Speaker 2: yet after when miracle has happened a month later, I'm wondering, God,
[10:34] Speaker 2: are you going to provide again? So we all are humans,
[10:37] Speaker 2: and we all suffer from those maladies, and we have
[10:40] Speaker 2: to confess them and know that He is righteous and just.
[10:44] Speaker 2: He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from
[10:47] Speaker 2: all unrighteousness. Thank you, hey, hey, you got it. In
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[15:10] Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Randy. I want to go back
[15:11] Speaker 2: to the phone lines. Talk to Dan Vancouver, British Columbia candidate.
[15:15] Speaker 5: Hi Dan, Hi, how's it going? I just had a
[15:18] Speaker 5: quick question about conflict resolution between Christians and the church. Like,
[15:22] Speaker 5: for example, if somebody even in leadership with gossiping and
[15:27] Speaker 5: like I confronted them talk to him about it in
[15:29] Speaker 5: a nice way, but they just everything you say, They say, no,
[15:32] Speaker 5: I didn't, I didn't And there's plenty of witnesses. How
[15:35] Speaker 5: far do you go, like how do you see that
[15:37] Speaker 5: to the end?
[15:37] Speaker 2: Yep? Well, you know that question is answered step by
[15:40] Speaker 2: step in Matthew chapter at these are the words of Jesus.
[15:44] Speaker 2: If your brother sins against you, go and show him
[15:47] Speaker 2: his fault just between the two of you. If he
[15:50] Speaker 2: listens to you, well then you've won your brother over.
[15:53] Speaker 2: But if you will not listen, take one or two
[15:56] Speaker 2: others along, so that every matter may be a step
[16:00] Speaker 2: published by the testimony of two or three witnesses. And
[16:03] Speaker 2: then says Jesus, if he refuses to listen to them,
[16:06] Speaker 2: tell it to the church. And further, if he refuses
[16:10] Speaker 2: to listen even to the church, treat him as you
[16:13] Speaker 2: would a pagan or a tax collector, because now you're
[16:17] Speaker 2: dealing with someone who is not invoking the principles of
[16:21] Speaker 2: the kingdom, but is demonstrating by action that they are,
[16:26] Speaker 2: in fact one who is aligned with human principle instead.
[16:31] Speaker 2: And that's why Jesus says you can treat them as
[16:34] Speaker 2: a pagan or as a tax collector. The passage again
[16:36] Speaker 2: starts in verse fifteen of Matthew chapter eighteen, and again,
[16:41] Speaker 2: this is all about invoking the principles of the Kingdom.
[16:46] Speaker 2: We do not merely live by a human set of
[16:50] Speaker 2: principles or standards. We live by a higher standard, and
[16:53] Speaker 2: that higher standard is the Kingdom principles that Jesus teaches
[16:57] Speaker 2: us and the Sermon on the Mountain elsewhere throughout the Bible.
[17:01] Speaker 2: I want to go back to the phone lines talked
[17:02] Speaker 2: of Jeff existing in western Nebraska. Hi, Jeff, well, how
[17:08] Speaker 2: are you? I'm well? Thank you.
[17:11] Speaker 6: My question pertains to Matthew twenty seven, twenty four. Yeah,
[17:16] Speaker 6: on what I talked about. When Pilot saw that he
[17:18] Speaker 6: could prevail nothing but that rather a cumulant was made,
[17:22] Speaker 6: he took water and washed his hands before the multitude, saying,
[17:25] Speaker 6: I am innocent as the blood of this just person.
[17:27] Speaker 6: See ye to it now that to pertain to him
[17:30] Speaker 6: crucifying Jesus, But can you explain on that to where
[17:34] Speaker 6: I could probably understand it better. On if Pilots thought
[17:38] Speaker 6: it was just that he was being crucified, or he's
[17:40] Speaker 6: feeling guilty that he was being crucified. You think Pilot
[17:43] Speaker 6: might ask for forgiveness later, knowing that he did wrong.
[17:46] Speaker 2: Well, there are certainly people that think that both the
[17:50] Speaker 2: wife of pilot and Pilot himself felt very guilty for
[17:55] Speaker 2: what they did, eventually recognized that they had crucified the
[17:59] Speaker 2: Lord of glory, therefore asked for forgiveness, and we're thus
[18:03] Speaker 2: forgiven by the very one that he authorized to have crucified.
[18:09] Speaker 6: Okay, So I mean there's no scripture anywhere where we
[18:13] Speaker 6: can actually learn that ourselves.
[18:14] Speaker 2: We do not know that from the Bible. There are
[18:17] Speaker 2: people who believe that you can ascertain this from extra
[18:21] Speaker 2: biblical sources.
[18:23] Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, I mean I just kind of confuse on
[18:25] Speaker 6: it because to me, it seems like he was trying
[18:27] Speaker 6: to ask for forgiveness at that point.
[18:30] Speaker 2: Well I don't see him asking for forgiveness at that point,
[18:33] Speaker 2: but he's facilitating a crime against an innocent man. But
[18:37] Speaker 2: he has the opportunity as the Prefect of Judea to
[18:42] Speaker 2: wash his hands of this, because it was the chief
[18:45] Speaker 2: priest the Sanhedron that convict Jesus Christ wrongly of saying
[18:52] Speaker 2: that he was going to destroy the temple. Jesus Christ
[18:56] Speaker 2: never said that he was going to destroy the temple.
[18:59] Speaker 2: He said, to destroy this temple, and I will raise
[19:02] Speaker 2: it again in three days. Now. The irony is two
[19:06] Speaker 2: temples stood there when Jesus said it. When he pointed
[19:09] Speaker 2: at the physical temple of Limestone, he was pointing to
[19:14] Speaker 2: the shadow of himself, because Jesus was a temple not
[19:19] Speaker 2: built by human hands. So he's talking about his resurrection,
[19:23] Speaker 2: but in his resurrection, he's also demonstrating that he will
[19:27] Speaker 2: come back and destroy the very temple that had become
[19:31] Speaker 2: the object of their idolatry.
[19:34] Speaker 6: Okay, okay, that's making more sense for me. So well,
[19:39] Speaker 6: thank you for answering that you got it.
[19:40] Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call. When we go
[19:42] Speaker 2: back to the phone line, talk to Brenda. She's listening in
[19:44] Speaker 2: Flint Hill, Missouri.
[19:46] Speaker 7: Hi, Brenda, Hi, thank you for taking my call.
[19:49] Speaker 2: Hey, pleasure.
[19:50] Speaker 1: I enjoy your show.
[19:51] Speaker 7: I'm driving my car after work every day. I listen
[19:55] Speaker 7: to it on the way home. I need your advice.
[19:58] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[19:59] Speaker 7: I am a a Christian. I have been for almost
[20:01] Speaker 7: thirty years. I grew up in a very dysfunctional home
[20:05] Speaker 7: with a lot of abuse, physical and emotional. I have
[20:09] Speaker 7: a sister, an older sister and a younger brother who
[20:12] Speaker 7: have not been able to forgive my parents. They My
[20:17] Speaker 7: brother is an alcoholic and my sister I believe it's alcoholic,
[20:22] Speaker 7: but and she does street drugs. We got together for
[20:27] Speaker 7: the first time in seven years this past Christmas. But
[20:31] Speaker 7: a lot of people were around, so there's nothing personal
[20:34] Speaker 7: talked about to understand. And then my daughter, my husband
[20:38] Speaker 7: and I, our daughter got married two weeks ago, and
[20:40] Speaker 7: my sister came again. My brother was there. So what
[20:43] Speaker 7: I'm what I'm asking is this is going to be
[20:46] Speaker 7: the first time that my sister and my brother, my parents,
[20:48] Speaker 7: and I are going to be alone. I've been I've
[20:51] Speaker 7: been praying for almost thirty years for my family. My
[21:00] Speaker 7: brother and my father are extremely prejudiced people, and I
[21:05] Speaker 7: don't know what to do. I've been trying to, you know,
[21:11] Speaker 7: go by what I feel that God is telling me.
[21:14] Speaker 7: You know, by example you live your life. This will
[21:17] Speaker 7: be a good thing. But my question is do I
[21:21] Speaker 7: approach them about any you know, I'm very nervous about this,
[21:26] Speaker 7: and I want to do the right thing, what christ
[21:29] Speaker 7: would want me to do and everything you understand. And
[21:32] Speaker 7: I'm so excited because I believe my parents been answered,
[21:35] Speaker 7: because I thought I never even see my sister again,
[21:39] Speaker 7: and you know, and Christmas, I was the first time
[21:42] Speaker 7: in seven years, and she you know, and she is
[21:45] Speaker 7: in very poor health on oxygen now and she needs
[21:49] Speaker 7: a young you know, heart transplant because of all the
[21:53] Speaker 7: drugs and stuff. So I want salvation from family really bad,
[22:01] Speaker 7: but I know that's something that they have to come
[22:04] Speaker 7: to terms with God with and I'm very fearful that
[22:09] Speaker 7: they won't find it, especially my sister, And so I
[22:14] Speaker 7: was wondering what advice you could offer me.
[22:17] Speaker 2: Well, Brenda, I think that you need to simply rest
[22:22] Speaker 2: in the Lord, recognizing that the testimony of your love
[22:27] Speaker 2: and the testimony of your lips is a very powerful force.
[22:32] Speaker 2: It is a kingdom force, and it penetrates darkness. If
[22:37] Speaker 2: the Lord gives you an opportunity to use the testimony
[22:40] Speaker 2: of your lips as well, all the better. But you
[22:43] Speaker 2: have a testimony, you have the peace of Christ that
[22:46] Speaker 2: you bring into that circumstance. And you're absolutely right to
[22:49] Speaker 2: say that you can't change anybody's heart. Only the Holy
[22:52] Speaker 2: Spirit does that. So you have to rest in that.
[22:55] Speaker 2: You have to rest in praying for your family and
[23:00] Speaker 2: recognizing that for reconciliation to take place between parents and
[23:04] Speaker 2: children always requires that there's someone who is willing to
[23:10] Speaker 2: forgive and someone who is wanting to be forgiven, and
[23:14] Speaker 2: without those two, reconciliation doesn't take place. And so you
[23:21] Speaker 2: can't force someone to want to be forgiven. You can, however,
[23:27] Speaker 2: pray and you are seeing the realization in some sense
[23:32] Speaker 2: to your prayers, because you're all going to be together.
[23:34] Speaker 2: And I think that's a wonderful thing. And I think
[23:37] Speaker 2: just to rest in the Lord now, don't feel like
[23:40] Speaker 2: you have to do anything extraordinary. Just be there radiating
[23:44] Speaker 2: the love of Jesus Christ and being a representative of
[23:47] Speaker 2: the Kingdom may open all kinds of doors for conversation.
[23:51] Speaker 2: And just walk through those doors as the Lord opens them.
[23:55] Speaker 7: Okay, I felt like that I should. I mean, I
[24:01] Speaker 7: really have felt like by my example because I don't.
[24:04] Speaker 7: I call my sister about every two weeks now because
[24:06] Speaker 7: I don't want her to feel smothered, you know. And
[24:10] Speaker 7: you know I've shared some things about you know, how
[24:13] Speaker 7: I've been able to come and Dad and and then
[24:16] Speaker 7: I have peace about that, you know, and that I
[24:19] Speaker 7: had gotten Christian counseling for it, and that what peace
[24:23] Speaker 7: I find in my life through Christ. But you know,
[24:26] Speaker 7: they kind of snicker at me, you know, and they
[24:30] Speaker 7: think I don't live in.
[24:31] Speaker 2: A real world, And well, you don't live in a
[24:34] Speaker 2: real world. You live in a world that has been
[24:37] Speaker 2: invaded by the Kingdom of Heaven. And so it is
[24:41] Speaker 2: not just the existence that they're comfortable with or they
[24:44] Speaker 2: even seem to comprehend. But you have seen that there
[24:49] Speaker 2: is an invasion of Kingdom principles in this world, and
[24:53] Speaker 2: you're living this out in their presence. So it's not
[24:57] Speaker 2: as much what would Jesus do in this circumstance, but
[25:01] Speaker 2: it is what would Jesus have me do in this circumstance?
[25:06] Speaker 2: And I think ultimately what I've said earlier applies rest
[25:10] Speaker 2: in His grace, in his peace. Always be ready to
[25:14] Speaker 2: give an answer or reason for the hope that lies
[25:16] Speaker 2: within you, with gentleness and with respect. The issue is
[25:20] Speaker 2: never evangelism. The issue is being equipped for evangelism. And
[25:23] Speaker 2: I can tell you, based on the loving way in
[25:27] Speaker 2: which you have expressed concern, that you are equipped ready
[25:31] Speaker 2: to testify by your life and your love, and if
[25:34] Speaker 2: God adds the testimony of your lips, even better. But
[25:38] Speaker 2: I think you are a great example, and you will
[25:41] Speaker 2: be the light of Jesus Christ shining in that dark place,
[25:46] Speaker 2: and we hope and pray, by God's grace that that
[25:49] Speaker 2: light will penetrate their hearts. But again, we can't violate
[25:53] Speaker 2: the human will. People have to want to be forgiven,
[25:56] Speaker 2: want reconciliation not only with God but also without Brenda.
[26:00] Speaker 2: Thank you for your example and make God at his
[26:04] Speaker 2: blessing to your testimony and that circumstances it comes together
[26:08] Speaker 2: in the near future. Thanks for tuning in. We look
[26:11] Speaker 2: forward to seeing you next time with more.
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