# But is AI Art, Art?

An episode of [UK Column News](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/545305768), 16 Jul 2026, 1 h 06 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/1044e334c/podcast/play/122921070/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-16%2F428074818-44100-2-c7f5beecbb186.mp3

Jerm and Jake Fern caught up for a second chat. The main thread was Jake's podcast A Thousand Words, where he paints a guest's portrait over several hours while having slow, deep conversations. They also discussed AI art, vented about the toxic purity-testing in the alternative community — particularly the absurd accusations against cartoonist Bob Moran over supposedly Masonic signature numbers — and agreed that engaging people you disagree with is a good thing. They touched on avoiding doom-scrolling nihilism in favour of nurturing joy, Jake's artistic influences, and his band doing COVID-themed parody covers to raise funds for a homeschooling hub. https://substack.com/@jakefern

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