# 409: ‘The Dynamic Paradox’, With Nilay Patel

An episode of [The Talk Show With John Gruber](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/528458508), 26 Sep 2024, 2 h 43 min.

Audio: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/daringfireball/thetalkshow-409-nilay-patel.mp3

Nilay Patel returns to the show to consider the iPhones 16. Sponsored by: • Tiptop: A new way to pay that combines Instant Trade-In and Pay-in-4 at checkout. • Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: • Nilay’s review of the iPhone 16 Pro. • Also from Nilay: “Let’s Compare Apple, Google, and Samsung’s Definitions of ‘a Photo’”. • Yours Truly’s iPhones 16 review. • Also from truly: “The Things They Carried” (thoughts and observations on Apple’s event). This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

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