# 436: ‘Financial Boner’, With Tyler Hayes

An episode of [The Talk Show With John Gruber](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/528458508), 30 Nov 2025, 1 h 36 min.

Audio: https://traffic.libsyn.com/daringfireball/thetalkshow-436-tyler-hayes.mp3

Special guest: Tyler Hayes. Topics include how to get a small phone today, which way foldables should fold, the state of Apple TV (including its new “sonic logo”), and some holiday gift gadget recommendations. Sponsored by: • Clic for Sonos: No lag. No hassle. Just Clic. • Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: • This Week The Trend. • Tyler on the flip-style Motorola Razr as a small phone solution. • DF: “Tyler Hayes Suggests Trying a Flip-Style Foldable If You Want a Smaller Phone”. • Tyler: “Apple TV Is Finally Worth $99 Per Year”. • Ad Age: “Apple TV’s Colorful New Branding Was Built With Glass and Captured In-Camera”. • Aura Ink, $500 e-paper picture frame. • Chargers: • Anker Nano 70W 3-port charger — $50, on sale for $32 if you act fast. • Nomad’s excellent “slim” chargers, in 40W (one port), 65W (two ports), and 100W (two ports) — I think the 65W one is the sweet spot. • Nomad’s Wallet Tracking Card, compatible with Find My. (Not mentioned on the show, but very cool — Tyler and I both own one and recommend them.). • Sharge’s Pixel 100W and 140W chargers, with cool fat-pixel dot-matrix displays on the side. • The Sigma BF, a gorgeous, minimal L-mount camera. • $2,200 at B&H Camera. • Tyler’s August issue of This Week The Trend that mentioned it. • Govee Smart Christmas Lights. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

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