# 455: ‘I’m Thinking X, Not X’, With Andru Edwards

An episode of [The Talk Show With John Gruber](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/528458508), 26 Sep 2026, 2 h 40 min.

Audio: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/daringfireball/thetalkshow-455-andru-edwards.mp3

Andru Edwards returns to the show to discuss Apple's big September event and their new products: the iPhones 18 Pro and Duo, AirPods 5, and Apple Watch Series 12/Ultra 4. Sponsored by: • Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off and one free breakfast item per box for one year, while supplies last, with code talkshow50off. • Notion: The collaborative AI workspace where teams and agents work side by side, with a developer platform teams can build on. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good. Links: • Apple’s “Surprise and Shine” keynote. • Andru's YouTube channel: • Andru's iPhone 18 Pro review. • His Duo first impressions. • Andru on Threads. • Yours truly's iPhone 18 Pro review. • My take on the "Surprise and Shine" event and announcements. • Apple's 2020 MagSafe Duo Charger for iPhones and Apple Watches. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

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