# 351 - Megachurches - Hahrie Han

An episode of [You Are Not So Smart](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/521594713), 26 Oct 2026, 1 h 01 min.

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What have scientists learned about the social infrastructure of megachurches that not only explains their growth but also their resilience, and how can we apply what we've learned to institutions that are not megachurches? Political scientists Hahrie Han joins us to explain why belonging is more important than belief when it comes to the push-pull of top-down and bottom-up within organizations that depend on fractal superstructures of cellular relationships in order to survive internal conflict. Hahrie Han Undivided Megachurch Database How Minds Change David McRaney’s Twitter YANSS Twitter Show Notes Newsletter Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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