# 653: Interop 2025, Attributes, and Black Boxes of AI

An episode of [ShopTalk](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/493890455), 24 Feb 2025, 59 min.

Audio: https://cdn.simplecast.com/audio/167887a0-ac00-4cf9-bc69-b5ca845997db/episodes/d908539e-0f9a-4b33-a00c-09b2ca40a6f3/audio/23f109fd-6f52-4e50-85f1-05805dd5209f/default_tc.mp3?nocache

Show Description We're looking at the Interop 2025 announcements, Dave is hating on (and talking about) attributes, debating better ways to handle color inputs, following up on the implications of AI that is shaped by politics, and Dave mouthblogs the secret black boxes of AI. Listen on Website Watch on YouTube Links • interop/2025/README • CSS Day 2025, 5th & 6th of June, Amsterdam • Interop 2025 | Igalia • Miriam’s post • Robin Sloan’s post • Michelle Barker’s reply • Baldur’s post • Robin’s reply • Baldur’s reply • Jeremy Keith’s reply • TechCrunch article • OpenAI Model Spec • Vale post • Search Engine podcast • GitHub link

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