# 662: Alternative Browsers, Discord vs Circle, and AI in the Browser

An episode of [ShopTalk](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/493890455), 28 Apr 2025, 1 h 03 min.

Audio: https://cdn.simplecast.com/audio/167887a0-ac00-4cf9-bc69-b5ca845997db/episodes/afab3e60-2209-48fb-8a5d-4ebe7dcbf89d/audio/1791674c-4599-4a0a-b748-1c5d7075319a/default_tc.mp3?nocache

Show Description We're talking browsers and discussing alternative options like Vivaldi and Brave, the implications of Chrome's potential sale to OpenAI, the impact of AI on browser functionality, Discord vs Circle, and building with Hotwire. Listen on Website Watch on YouTube Links • Newfangled Browser Alternatives – Frontend Masters Blog • Zen Browser • Horse Browser • Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser • Opera GX | Gaming Browser | Opera • Thorium Browser • Mullvad Browser • Fast and Private Web Browser • DuckDuckGo • Microsoft Edge Download • OpenAI Chrome Acquisition • Mozilla on U.S. v. Google • HTML5 CSS3 Support • Opera Air | Mindful Browser • Opera Mini Download • Hotwire Drawer Component • CodePen • Circle • Discord • Zulip • Netlify Support Forums • Retro Photo app • Media Diet – Chris Coyier

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