# #573 "Douglas Jakobsen"

An episode of [Bajenpodden](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/479018022), 30 Jan 2025, 1 h 31 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/bajenpodden/e/679aad8ca234f420daae5f93/media.mp3

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