# Yours Truly Johnny Dollar: The Winsome Widow Matter (EP4985)

An episode of [The Great Detectives Present Yours Truly Johnny Dollar (Old Time Radio)](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/430244417), 28 May 2026, 31 min.

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Today's Mystery:Johnny Dollar heads to Los Angeles to investigate the murder of a liquor store owner who had survived multiple robbery attempts over the years. As Johnny digs deeper, suspicion begins to center on the victim’s glamorous young widow and the strange pattern behind the repeated holdup attempts at the store. Original Radio Broadcast Date: April 26, 1959 Originated from Hollywood Stars: Bob Bailey as Johnny Dollar.Also starring Lawrence Dobkin, Virginia Gregg, Bartlett Robinson, Paul Dubov, and Frank Nelson. When making your travel plans, remember Johnny Dollar Air Become one of our Patreon Supporters at Patreon Thank you to our Patreon Supporter of the Day: Adrienne, Patreon supporter since January 2020. Take the listener survey… Listener Survey Give us a call 208-991-4783 Become one of our Facebook friends Follow us on Twitter Twitter/X

## Transcript

[0:28] Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.
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[1:11] Speaker 1: remember johnydollarair dot com. First, but now from April twenty sixth,
[1:18] Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine, here is the winsome widow manner from Hollywood.
[1:25] Speaker 2: It's time now or.
[1:30] Speaker 3: Johnny Dillon long distance mister Pat McCracken and Hertford, Connecticut
[1:35] Speaker 3: is returning.
[1:35] Speaker 4: Your call, mister Dallas.
[1:36] Speaker 2: Oh thanks Obert to put them on one moment.
[1:38] Speaker 4: Please Oh I've had it, Oh Johnny, this message I Thohn.
[1:44] Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you called. Say what under the sun
[1:47] Speaker 2: are you doing in Los Angeles?
[1:48] Speaker 4: He's down here for confable Jack Johnstone you know the
[1:50] Speaker 4: guy who dramatizes the cases I am and puts.
[1:53] Speaker 2: Him on the eye. Yeah, I give him my best.
[1:55] Speaker 4: And I just wondered if you had anything out here,
[1:56] Speaker 4: I can do it before heading back to Hydrid. And
[1:59] Speaker 4: it's so it'll give you a chance to put your
[2:00] Speaker 4: travel charges on the expens co.
[2:03] Speaker 2: What else, Johnny, I got a wire from him just
[2:06] Speaker 2: a few minutes ago.
[2:07] Speaker 4: You contact Herbs Shilling at the greatest Southwest Insurance Company
[2:12] Speaker 4: right there in.
[2:12] Speaker 2: La Okay, we'll do and you can address your expense
[2:15] Speaker 2: account to them. Right. Oh uh, Johnny? Yeah?
[2:19] Speaker 5: Have you got a gun with you?
[2:20] Speaker 4: Sure?
[2:20] Speaker 2: Pant I always huh why do you ask that? Judging
[2:25] Speaker 2: by Herb's wire, Johnny, you may need it.
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[4:11] Speaker 4: Expense account submitted by Special Investigator Johnny Dollar the Greater
[4:15] Speaker 4: Southwest Insurance Company, Los Angeles office following as an account
[4:18] Speaker 4: of expenses incurreage during my investigation of the Winsome Widow matter.
[4:27] Speaker 4: Expense account out of one a dollar forty for a
[4:29] Speaker 4: taxi from my hotel in West DLA. The Greater Southwest
[4:32] Speaker 4: Insurance and one of those big office buildings on Wilshire
[4:34] Speaker 4: Boulevard's Miracle Mile her Shilling almost fell off his chair
[4:37] Speaker 4: when I barged inner.
[4:42] Speaker 2: Collar. Hi, Herbie.
[4:43] Speaker 4: Look, I know that some of those new jet flights
[4:45] Speaker 4: are pretty fast, but I only sent that white to
[4:47] Speaker 4: Pat mccrack in a couple of hours. I didn't waste
[4:48] Speaker 4: any time trying to make plane connections.
[4:50] Speaker 2: Her just flew out out of my own power.
[4:53] Speaker 4: And you're kidding, I know, But where were you when
[4:55] Speaker 4: you got the word from mccrack right here in your
[4:57] Speaker 4: own fair city. I wish I had known that even
[5:00] Speaker 4: those couple of hours could have been saved.
[5:02] Speaker 2: Ah, what's the big problem?
[5:03] Speaker 4: A little matter of a liquor store hold up? Only
[5:06] Speaker 4: I'm afraid this one wasn't so little. Then tell me
[5:08] Speaker 4: on yes you do, Johnny. For some reason or another,
[5:14] Speaker 4: these places that sell bottle goods are a pretty frequent
[5:16] Speaker 4: target for stick ups here in Los Angeles.
[5:19] Speaker 2: There have been quite a few of them over the years.
[5:21] Speaker 2: I'm surprised you ensure them.
[5:22] Speaker 4: And needless to say, premiums are pretty high, and at
[5:26] Speaker 4: least as far as our company is concerned, the policies
[5:28] Speaker 4: are somewhat limited. That is, in so far as maximum
[5:31] Speaker 4: allowable coverage is concerned, makes sense, and the whole we've
[5:34] Speaker 4: been pretty lucky, but that I mean, we've had to
[5:36] Speaker 4: pay off relatively few claims. But now in the case
[5:40] Speaker 4: of Willie Layman, who is what I laming. His stories
[5:43] Speaker 4: are in West Los Angeles at one out ninety two
[5:45] Speaker 4: to one Santa Monica.
[5:46] Speaker 2: Boulevard, and that's only about a mile from where I'm staying.
[5:49] Speaker 4: The old man opened up his place late in nineteen
[5:51] Speaker 4: fifty one.
[5:51] Speaker 2: Huh, yes, sixty one, very nineteen fifty two, he had
[5:56] Speaker 2: his first hold up.
[5:57] Speaker 4: The bandits got away with something over nine hundred.
[6:00] Speaker 2: Dollars, so he bought some insurance from us. We'll go on.
[6:04] Speaker 2: Since then, there have been seven more attempted stick.
[6:06] Speaker 4: Ups there a total of eight in as many years.
[6:10] Speaker 4: And your company must be getting a bit tire to
[6:12] Speaker 4: pay off.
[6:12] Speaker 2: No, because after the second time he know how to
[6:15] Speaker 2: use it. He certainly did.
[6:18] Speaker 4: He had a lot of medals from some German out
[6:20] Speaker 4: that he was in during the last war. Anyhow, he
[6:22] Speaker 4: suffered no more losses, that is until last night. Oh
[6:26] Speaker 4: how much in money?
[6:28] Speaker 6: What else?
[6:29] Speaker 4: Something like over four hundred dollars out of the cash register,
[6:32] Speaker 4: as nearly as the police can figure it from the
[6:34] Speaker 4: register slip or couldn't Layman tell you how much? No,
[6:37] Speaker 4: because you see Johnny, he also lost his life, and
[6:43] Speaker 4: I take it you wrote his life insurance too. That's right,
[6:46] Speaker 4: thirty dollars, I see.
[6:48] Speaker 2: Look, it's a.
[6:49] Speaker 4: Little late in the day, but if you want to
[6:50] Speaker 4: go out there check with the police. Sure, I'll be
[6:53] Speaker 4: in touch. Had him two fifty dollars deposit on a
[6:59] Speaker 4: drive your own car. I passed up one on nine
[7:02] Speaker 4: two one Santamonica Boulevard and went right on out west
[7:04] Speaker 4: to West LA Police headquarters. There I ran down Sergeant
[7:08] Speaker 4: Mike Kirby, who was covering the whole affair. Mike turned
[7:11] Speaker 4: out to be a young, alert guy on the ball
[7:13] Speaker 4: and completely cooperative. That's Ride Dollar eight times since he
[7:17] Speaker 4: opened the place in fifty one, and that's way out
[7:19] Speaker 4: of line.
[7:20] Speaker 2: I should certainly think so. In the last three stickups
[7:22] Speaker 2: have been within the past ten weeks.
[7:25] Speaker 4: Sergeant Mike contact at the insurance company, Herb Shilling, tells
[7:28] Speaker 4: me that Willie Layman managed to fight.
[7:30] Speaker 2: Off most of the bandit.
[7:31] Speaker 4: He told your Ride Dollar Layman was not only a
[7:34] Speaker 4: crack shot, but I guess he was pretty quick on
[7:35] Speaker 4: the draw. It was only last month that he killed
[7:38] Speaker 4: one of the two men to try to hold them up.
[7:40] Speaker 2: Two men? What about the other? I'm way ahead of you. Huh.
[7:43] Speaker 2: We find another man, we find the killer.
[7:46] Speaker 4: Probably it seemed like a pretty safe bet. But look, Mike,
[7:51] Speaker 4: if there were so many tries at this one place,
[7:53] Speaker 4: and so many all at once, take a draw somebody
[7:56] Speaker 4: watching over the point. We tried it, as long as
[7:58] Speaker 4: we had somebody there, you know, sitting him back, or
[8:00] Speaker 4: work them behind the corner and just watch him from
[8:02] Speaker 4: across the street. Nothing happened, but the minute we took
[8:05] Speaker 4: him away, being another hold up. Try Somehow they seemed
[8:09] Speaker 4: to know whenever we had the place under surveillance.
[8:11] Speaker 2: And more important, when you didn't, Oh what have you
[8:14] Speaker 2: got to work on?
[8:15] Speaker 7: Oh?
[8:16] Speaker 4: Nothing but a couple of bullets. I'm afraid I want
[8:19] Speaker 4: to take a run over and look at good place, Sure, Mike,
[8:21] Speaker 4: why not? Like a store was closed, but there were
[8:29] Speaker 4: lights on and the living quarters about it. We knocked
[8:31] Speaker 4: a couple of times but got no answer, so Mike
[8:33] Speaker 4: used to keep it. He had and his men had
[8:35] Speaker 4: been careful to leave things as they'd been at the time.
[8:37] Speaker 2: Of the killing.
[8:39] Speaker 4: He was lying right there, dollars though he'd come around
[8:42] Speaker 4: the end of the corner near that door to the
[8:45] Speaker 4: back room.
[8:46] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[8:46] Speaker 4: Yeah, that door also leads upstairs to the apartment. You
[8:50] Speaker 4: must have taken a couple of shots at the bandit.
[8:52] Speaker 4: You see where the bottles were broken around the shelf. Yeah,
[8:56] Speaker 4: no bloodstains or anything. I guess he missed for once
[9:00] Speaker 4: the bandit, But I'm right in the hard Johnny bullet
[9:03] Speaker 4: went in at the right shoulder, then down through his
[9:06] Speaker 4: heart and stopped against.
[9:07] Speaker 2: The lower left rib. Of course, until you get a
[9:10] Speaker 2: lab report on that bullet must be his wife. The
[9:14] Speaker 2: why she didn't answer when we knocked on the door,
[9:17] Speaker 2: He missus, Layman, Oh no.
[9:19] Speaker 4: He's here again.
[9:21] Speaker 2: Do you have to come around at all hours? Ooks?
[9:27] Speaker 2: Hold everything.
[9:28] Speaker 4: Layman had been sixty one, but his wife, Gloria couldn't
[9:32] Speaker 4: have been more than thirty. Tall, dark, She was obviously
[9:35] Speaker 4: very proud of her highly committable ficking. And she was pretty,
[9:39] Speaker 4: that is almost Maybe it was just a little too
[9:42] Speaker 4: much make up, especially around the eyes that she knew
[9:45] Speaker 4: how to use so well.
[9:46] Speaker 2: The little bell had rung in the back of my head.
[9:49] Speaker 4: Yeah, and since I'd noticed the phone booths at the
[9:51] Speaker 4: gas station next door, I had him three ten cents
[9:54] Speaker 4: for a call, Johnny. That's right, Herb, and I'm sorry
[9:58] Speaker 4: to call you at home. It's one thing I forgot
[10:01] Speaker 4: to ask you about when I talk to you.
[10:02] Speaker 2: How is that? Who's the beneficiary of all Man Layman's
[10:06] Speaker 2: life insurance?
[10:08] Speaker 4: Thank you, Herb Shillings, Act two of yours, truly, Johnny Dollar.
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[11:25] Speaker 4: act two of yours, truly Johnny Dollar and the winsome
[11:29] Speaker 4: widow matter. After the phone called a Herb Shelley, I
[11:40] Speaker 4: went back into the liquor store, where Sergeant Mike Kirby
[11:43] Speaker 4: was still talking to Layman's.
[11:44] Speaker 2: Widow, Gloria. If you mean you don't plan to reopen
[11:46] Speaker 2: the store in all, missus Laman.
[11:48] Speaker 4: Now tightn't help it.
[11:49] Speaker 6: I'll sell this down to the first person I find
[11:52] Speaker 6: has enough money to buy it.
[11:54] Speaker 2: And then what, missus Laman? You call me Gloria? Hi?
[11:56] Speaker 2: Everybody else does? And who are you anyway? Johnny? You're
[12:00] Speaker 2: had a cop and you don't look like a dick,
[12:03] Speaker 2: mister dollars here because of the insurance involved from the
[12:07] Speaker 2: insurance company.
[12:08] Speaker 3: That's right, well, listen, Willie had some insurance I know,
[12:11] Speaker 3: I mean on himself as well as the store.
[12:13] Speaker 2: I don't know how much it.
[12:14] Speaker 3: Is, but he promised me that he'd buy some.
[12:17] Speaker 2: It was your idea that he insures life.
[12:20] Speaker 3: Sure, an old guy like him, I figured he'd up
[12:23] Speaker 3: and die sometime while I was still young and beautiful,
[12:25] Speaker 3: So why shouldn't I let him provide something for my future?
[12:29] Speaker 2: Like they say, Oh, who ever thought he was going
[12:31] Speaker 2: to die as soon as this? Whoever plan and carry
[12:35] Speaker 2: it out his murder?
[12:36] Speaker 6: Do you mean somebody planned to kill him this way?
[12:39] Speaker 2: Just where were you when it happened? Bory?
[12:41] Speaker 3: I was upstairs and dead asleep.
[12:43] Speaker 2: Look, I've told the cops all about it. Well you
[12:45] Speaker 2: must have heard the shooting. I'll say I did. What
[12:47] Speaker 2: did you do?
[12:48] Speaker 3: I put on a road and from running down here,
[12:51] Speaker 3: Well I see the cash register opening. Poor old Willy
[12:54] Speaker 3: lay in there, and when I see that he's dead,
[12:56] Speaker 3: I fall.
[12:56] Speaker 2: In the police. You didn't see anybody else down here?
[12:59] Speaker 2: I got here.
[13:00] Speaker 3: Whoever he did it was gone.
[13:02] Speaker 2: You don't seem all upset over your husband's murder.
[13:05] Speaker 3: Now you want me to put on an act.
[13:08] Speaker 6: Don't you know that he was twice as old as
[13:10] Speaker 6: I am?
[13:11] Speaker 2: Then why did you marry him?
[13:13] Speaker 4: Whoa?
[13:14] Speaker 2: You know how it is just to settle down and
[13:18] Speaker 2: let somebody else support you for a change.
[13:20] Speaker 6: Made him happy to have me around if I liked it?
[13:23] Speaker 2: Okay too? For a while?
[13:26] Speaker 4: Gee, what a bore?
[13:28] Speaker 3: Oh he did was talk about getting enough money to
[13:30] Speaker 3: go back to the old country.
[13:31] Speaker 2: Well, who wants to go back to any old country
[13:33] Speaker 2: when you can have such a ball on this one?
[13:36] Speaker 2: I know I always have, even when I was married
[13:38] Speaker 2: to old Willie.
[13:40] Speaker 6: Of course you didn't always know where I was to do.
[13:45] Speaker 6: Don't you like having fun done?
[13:47] Speaker 3: I mean with people more like your own age?
[13:51] Speaker 6: Hold that you don't answer it now, don't answer it's
[13:54] Speaker 6: the places closed?
[13:55] Speaker 2: Well it might be for me, missus Layman.
[13:58] Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and listen, Johnny, if you can get me
[14:05] Speaker 3: that insurance money in a hurry, well, I want.
[14:08] Speaker 2: You to know I appreciate it.
[14:10] Speaker 4: Gloria.
[14:10] Speaker 2: How long ago were you married?
[14:13] Speaker 3: September?
[14:15] Speaker 2: Now, why do you say it that way?
[14:17] Speaker 3: I told you, Johnny, I married the old man says
[14:19] Speaker 3: he could take care of me.
[14:21] Speaker 2: Excuse me, Johnny, I got to get back to headquarters.
[14:23] Speaker 4: Ballistics Downtown is sending up a report on the bullets
[14:26] Speaker 4: we found. Oh good, Also, Bob Golden picked up a
[14:28] Speaker 4: bum in a saloon, and it looks like he's the
[14:31] Speaker 4: one that did this job, picked up the guy that
[14:34] Speaker 4: killed ly looks like it. You want to come with me, Johnny,
[14:39] Speaker 4: Well do your don't you?
[14:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, I'll go along with him. I told you,
[14:52] Speaker 2: I told all those other cops.
[14:54] Speaker 7: I'm the guy that hoisted the dough out of Layman's
[14:56] Speaker 7: liquors last night, and you.
[14:58] Speaker 2: Shot and killed him. Benny, No, I tell you I
[15:01] Speaker 2: didn't do it. That's the truth. So help me. That's
[15:04] Speaker 2: the truth.
[15:04] Speaker 4: Are you trying to say somebody else went in there
[15:06] Speaker 4: and shot him after you left?
[15:08] Speaker 2: Benny?
[15:08] Speaker 7: I don't know.
[15:09] Speaker 2: There was no reason if you'd already taken his money.
[15:12] Speaker 2: I don't know. How should I know?
[15:15] Speaker 7: You think I stuck around there after I got his dough.
[15:17] Speaker 2: How many shots did you fire at him? Benny? How
[15:19] Speaker 2: many shots?
[15:21] Speaker 6: Why?
[15:21] Speaker 7: I didn't fire none? You saw that gun the cups
[15:24] Speaker 7: took off of me. He was made a rubber, That's
[15:26] Speaker 7: all it was. It was made a rubber. If I
[15:29] Speaker 7: hadn't got stupid and got out and got drunken, showed
[15:32] Speaker 7: it to somebody and told him how I got away
[15:34] Speaker 7: with the money from that liquor store with it. You
[15:36] Speaker 7: think these dumb cups that they ever got wires to me?
[15:39] Speaker 2: You didn't fire a single shot?
[15:40] Speaker 4: How could I?
[15:42] Speaker 2: I waved my rubber gun? Hurry me.
[15:44] Speaker 4: He reaches under the counter. He comes up empty. So
[15:47] Speaker 4: he gives me the dough and I leave. You're lying, Benny.
[15:50] Speaker 4: You make a paraffine test, Mike, Yeah, and I think
[15:53] Speaker 4: this is the result of it. Well, Conroy, the paraffin
[15:55] Speaker 4: test is negative.
[15:57] Speaker 2: No sign of powder on either of his hands. Also, sorry,
[16:01] Speaker 2: you see.
[16:02] Speaker 7: I told you.
[16:02] Speaker 2: I told you I never had no real buns, all right,
[16:05] Speaker 2: then I told you all I did was rob that
[16:07] Speaker 2: Joyce went out to shut Yeah, Connoy.
[16:11] Speaker 4: Also, Sergeant, here's the report from downtown on the bullets.
[16:16] Speaker 2: Let me have them.
[16:17] Speaker 4: And also they returned that gun on mister Layman's that
[16:20] Speaker 4: they found beside his body.
[16:21] Speaker 2: There's no prints at all on it. Now, Johnny, is
[16:24] Speaker 2: there anything else to look at this? Yeah? Connoy, got
[16:27] Speaker 2: this bomb out of here. Lock him up upstairs, Yes, sir,
[16:30] Speaker 2: come on, you wise guys. Can't put no murder rap
[16:33] Speaker 2: on me. Oh yeah, we're wait. What's the same.
[16:38] Speaker 4: Listen, the bullet that killed Willy Layman and the bullets
[16:42] Speaker 4: we pulled out of the wall of that store, Johnny,
[16:46] Speaker 4: they all came from Layman's own gun.
[16:50] Speaker 2: In other words, with the help of that phony rubber pistol.
[16:53] Speaker 2: Then he somehow got Layman's gun away from him. Maybe
[16:56] Speaker 2: Layman had already pulled off a couple of shots and missed.
[16:59] Speaker 2: But the one that killed him.
[17:03] Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the paraffint test showed no powder on Benny's hands.
[17:08] Speaker 2: Then he must have worn gloves. He must have killed.
[17:11] Speaker 2: Lame that you want to bet? Then who did well first?
[17:17] Speaker 2: I think I'd better get some proof.
[17:24] Speaker 4: Act three of yours, truly Johnny Dollar in a moment, shiable, looks.
[17:33] Speaker 6: Smart, two dates with drink, stay young, tent.
[17:46] Speaker 4: And.
[17:48] Speaker 2: Be sociable.
[17:52] Speaker 4: When friends drop in. Let your hospitality show you a
[17:56] Speaker 4: sociable in a modern manner. Absolutely no is the favorite
[17:59] Speaker 4: of the smart and young and heart.
[18:04] Speaker 6: Be sociable, look smart, two days with pepsy string, light,
[18:14] Speaker 6: refreshed sheet, stay young, there and sociable.
[18:26] Speaker 2: Have you tried to EPs lately? Oh? Act three of
[18:29] Speaker 2: yours truly Johnny Dollar, Where.
[18:42] Speaker 4: You're over looking one thing, like what, Johnny, that Benny's
[18:45] Speaker 4: a shaky old bomb of why not suppose he'd gone
[18:48] Speaker 4: into that like a store with a real gun instead
[18:50] Speaker 4: of that phony little rubber one you boys found on him.
[18:53] Speaker 2: Well you think for a minute.
[18:54] Speaker 4: He could have stood up against the crack shot like
[18:56] Speaker 4: you say Layman was. Well, Now, that's besides, how could
[18:59] Speaker 4: he get lame One's gun away from him and kill
[19:01] Speaker 4: him with it. Ever since he kept the gun in
[19:03] Speaker 4: that store, not a single hold up man has got
[19:05] Speaker 4: the better of him, even kill one of them a
[19:07] Speaker 4: month ago. That's very true, all right. I think I
[19:10] Speaker 4: can get your killer for you, only you have to
[19:12] Speaker 4: let me get her my own way.
[19:14] Speaker 2: Her. That's right. You mean Layman's wife, Gloria. That's right, Johnny.
[19:19] Speaker 4: I thought of her too, motive, opportunity, everything but proof prove.
[19:23] Speaker 2: I mean, handle it my own way. But if she
[19:25] Speaker 2: didn't do if I'm wrong, it won't be any reflection
[19:28] Speaker 2: on you on your record. Oh see what you mean? Okay,
[19:32] Speaker 2: we'll take my car, and you got to promise me
[19:35] Speaker 2: one thing.
[19:35] Speaker 4: What's that that you'll stay outside, that you won't make
[19:38] Speaker 4: any move until I ask you to, no matter what happens.
[19:41] Speaker 2: Well now, john.
[19:42] Speaker 4: Otherwise you can try hauling her in yourself. Well, of course,
[19:45] Speaker 4: if you're wrong about her. Okay, Johnny, let's go.
[20:00] Speaker 3: I'm glad you came alone, Johnny.
[20:01] Speaker 2: I'm getting awful tired of having all those cops around here.
[20:05] Speaker 2: All right, listen, Gloria, you are.
[20:07] Speaker 3: Going to get that thirty thousand insurance money.
[20:09] Speaker 4: For me her.
[20:10] Speaker 2: Ain't you you know how long it'll take for me
[20:14] Speaker 2: to get the rest of his stuff Here in this state,
[20:17] Speaker 2: a guy.
[20:17] Speaker 6: Dies, it's sometimes a couple of years before they.
[20:23] Speaker 2: That's madam Johnny thirty thousand. Huh what I thought you
[20:28] Speaker 2: didn't know the amount of that insurance?
[20:30] Speaker 4: Well, Johnny, Gloria, the only recent attempts at to hold
[20:33] Speaker 4: up were made between the times the cops had.
[20:36] Speaker 2: A stake out here, right, Yes, that's right, Johnny.
[20:38] Speaker 4: And somebody must have passed the word around when everything
[20:41] Speaker 4: was clear, you think so cheep?
[20:42] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[20:43] Speaker 4: And I also think that the only people who knew
[20:45] Speaker 4: when the police weren't here were you and your husband.
[20:49] Speaker 2: Well, you don't think you'd go around blobbing it, Oh
[20:52] Speaker 2: I don't.
[20:53] Speaker 3: Well then, now wait a minute, Johnny Dollars.
[20:56] Speaker 2: I'll get your back hair of Gloria. Not yet.
[20:58] Speaker 4: But your husband was good enough with a gun to
[21:00] Speaker 4: a thwarted seven robbery attempts in a.
[21:02] Speaker 2: Role, that's right.
[21:03] Speaker 4: So I think he could have prevented his own murder
[21:06] Speaker 4: if he'd had his gun last night. Well, of course
[21:09] Speaker 4: he had it. They found it lying next to his body.
[21:11] Speaker 4: Somebody was glad to see these hold ups these attempts anyway,
[21:14] Speaker 4: because it provided a perfect excuse to kill him. Johnny,
[21:17] Speaker 4: gun under the counter, didn't sure right here under the register? Okay, okay,
[21:25] Speaker 4: I want to put my gun there, Johnny, get behind
[21:30] Speaker 4: the counter a minute, about where he'd stand.
[21:33] Speaker 2: When a customer came in. Sure right about here.
[21:39] Speaker 4: So last night the man came in and he stood
[21:42] Speaker 4: about here. He pulled a toy gun out of his pocket,
[21:47] Speaker 4: the man of the money in the register. What would
[21:51] Speaker 4: your husband have done?
[21:54] Speaker 2: Well, grabbed the gun like this. You're pointing that right
[22:02] Speaker 2: at me.
[22:02] Speaker 4: You know.
[22:06] Speaker 6: You would have done.
[22:07] Speaker 4: But there was no gone there last night because you
[22:10] Speaker 4: had taken it when the bandits left. You were standing
[22:13] Speaker 4: up on the stairs there at the back. You'd come
[22:14] Speaker 4: down from your apartment. Are you talking about the bullet
[22:17] Speaker 4: that killed him went from his right shoulder down to
[22:19] Speaker 4: his heart, down to the lower ribs because you were
[22:22] Speaker 4: up on the stairs when you shot him.
[22:24] Speaker 2: Then you find a couple of shots into the wall,
[22:26] Speaker 2: and you call the bullice you sue.
[22:27] Speaker 7: That enough to the coon.
[22:28] Speaker 2: I tell him, Gloria, you.
[22:30] Speaker 1: Won't, Johnny, because it happened just the way you said.
[22:32] Speaker 1: But you're never gonna tell.
[22:33] Speaker 2: Warrior, Do right, Johnny?
[22:35] Speaker 7: No, do you chucked the bullets up?
[22:40] Speaker 6: You sit me?
[22:42] Speaker 2: You shaite me? That's right, Gloria, Do I see you happy?
[22:49] Speaker 4: So pretty obvious, I guess right from the beginning. But
[22:58] Speaker 4: as I said, getting proved or in this a confession
[23:01] Speaker 4: isn't always so easy anyhow, Expense account TOTA is putting
[23:04] Speaker 4: mile age on the retal car and the trip back
[23:06] Speaker 4: to hybrid. I'll call it two hundred and fifty even. Okay, yes, truly,
[23:11] Speaker 4: Johnny dollars our star will return in just dormant.
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[24:02] Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I should note that circulating copies
[24:06] Speaker 1: of this program do have an end credit sequence. The
[24:10] Speaker 1: problem is it's the wrong one. It is actually from
[24:15] Speaker 1: the tip off matter, the very last episode of Johnny
[24:19] Speaker 1: Dollar that aired on September thirtieth, nineteen sixty two. The
[24:25] Speaker 1: actual cast, and this comes from John Abbott's book that
[24:30] Speaker 1: Who Is Johnny Dollar Matter? Volume two, where he actually
[24:34] Speaker 1: took a look at the scripts gives us our cast of.
[24:38] Speaker 1: In addition to Bob Bailey as Johnny Dollar, we got
[24:42] Speaker 1: Lorne Stopkin, Virginia Gregg Bartlett, Robinson, Paul dubalv and of
[24:47] Speaker 1: course the voice any old time radio fan will recognize
[24:51] Speaker 1: Frank Nelson. I do hope Johnny's meeting with Jack Johnstone
[24:57] Speaker 1: a little bit meta here. I hope that went well,
[25:00] Speaker 1: a pretty fair case. Nothing amazing, but very little that
[25:07] Speaker 1: was beyond the pale in terms of genre on the
[25:11] Speaker 1: way the program went. I do find it odd. You know,
[25:15] Speaker 1: from any standpoint that if you are the young gold
[25:22] Speaker 1: digging wife of a man you murdered, that you would
[25:27] Speaker 1: make the point of not being broken up about his death. Now,
[25:33] Speaker 1: if you're innocent and you feel that way, I can
[25:37] Speaker 1: see it from a couple perspectives. One is just not
[25:41] Speaker 1: being hypocritical and not trying to put on an act.
[25:46] Speaker 1: From a standpoint of being suspected. It's better to admit
[25:52] Speaker 1: that you really didn't care that much for your husband
[25:56] Speaker 1: than to go into historyonics about it and then them
[26:00] Speaker 1: to find evidence of the fact that you really didn't care.
[26:05] Speaker 1: Although on Jonny Dowler they seem to go into some
[26:08] Speaker 1: detail which really isn't necessary. But in the case where
[26:13] Speaker 1: you have murdered him, what's the point. Is it some
[26:19] Speaker 1: sort of weird moral high ground, like, yes, I'm a murderer,
[26:22] Speaker 1: but no, I'm not a hypocrite. In terms of the solution,
[26:26] Speaker 1: the confession was not really necessary other than for dramatic purposes,
[26:31] Speaker 1: because when it came down to it, the angle of
[26:36] Speaker 1: the bullet established guilt, particularly after they caught the rabber
[26:41] Speaker 1: and ran the paraffin test. All right, well, listener comments
[26:45] Speaker 1: and feedback, and we start with a comment on the
[26:50] Speaker 1: Fairweather Friend matter from Spotify. Let's random Spotify user rights.
[26:57] Speaker 1: I have a feeling nineteen fifties alien talk as much
[27:02] Speaker 1: about germs as nineteen fifties military families talking about auto accident,
[27:08] Speaker 1: and those, of course are references to commercials aliens. I
[27:12] Speaker 1: didn't take it that way, but I actually think it's
[27:18] Speaker 1: open to a question because on one hand, I believe
[27:23] Speaker 1: military families could talk a little bit about traffic safety
[27:30] Speaker 1: and their concerns with it. I just can't believe they
[27:34] Speaker 1: talk as much as the Bellweathers do. And as for
[27:37] Speaker 1: aliens from outer space and I work, for some insane
[27:44] Speaker 1: reason on the mission, I would probably talk a lot
[27:48] Speaker 1: about germs and their risk because I know the history
[27:54] Speaker 1: of encounters with new civilizations on our planet where the
[28:01] Speaker 1: introduction of new bacteria and illnesses lead to serious deaths. So,
[28:09] Speaker 1: by all means, let's talk about germs. Although I always
[28:13] Speaker 1: interpreted those ads as germs talking to each other, in
[28:19] Speaker 1: which case, you know, it's a clear win for germs
[28:22] Speaker 1: talking to germs, because what else are germs going to
[28:25] Speaker 1: talk about? Well, now it's time to thank our Patreon
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[28:59] Speaker 1: an other episode of Yours Truly Johnny at Ahler. But
[29:02] Speaker 1: join us back here tomorrow as we give way to
[29:06] Speaker 1: the great adventurers of Old tom Radio and Counterspy.
[29:10] Speaker 4: Where all right, Norman start tucking well first, you'd like
[29:14] Speaker 4: to know a little bit about me, wouldn't say?
[29:15] Speaker 2: No?
[29:16] Speaker 8: I've been doing a little checking William Norman alias Walter Nolan,
[29:20] Speaker 8: con Man Swindler three to five years stretching the Harris
[29:23] Speaker 8: Bilt penn. You're at Cluton prison and strictly.
[29:26] Speaker 4: Alone wolf in operation pretty complete. Yeah, Now what's the pitch?
[29:34] Speaker 4: Five to ten million dollars a year net, big pitch?
[29:38] Speaker 4: You're interested. I've got a catcher's midst that throw, and
[29:42] Speaker 4: it's a refinement of the protection like it protection.
[29:46] Speaker 8: See, I got out of that in a thirty.
[29:47] Speaker 4: That's too risky.
[29:49] Speaker 8: The cops and the good citizens get mad fast.
[29:52] Speaker 2: This isn't risky.
[29:54] Speaker 4: I don't like to take chances. That's why I met
[29:56] Speaker 4: you out here on the beach. You can't wire the
[29:58] Speaker 4: air and the sea.
[30:00] Speaker 8: Huge, What do you want from me? I'm not forgetting.
[30:04] Speaker 8: You got a rep as a lone wolf.
[30:06] Speaker 4: And I keep it except that now I need your organizations.
[30:11] Speaker 4: Why you've got men in most of the big cities
[30:13] Speaker 4: in the country, I do. That's right.
[30:15] Speaker 8: Takes a big outfit to run a gambling operation, and
[30:17] Speaker 8: they're tough enough to run any protection racket ever invented.
[30:20] Speaker 4: There will be no violence at all attached to this.
[30:23] Speaker 4: I don't like force. You can make more with brains.
[30:26] Speaker 4: What do the boys do?
[30:27] Speaker 2: Then?
[30:29] Speaker 4: Wreck about twenty million dollar corporation?
[30:32] Speaker 2: One million for that?
[30:34] Speaker 4: You need an army. Not if you do it with
[30:38] Speaker 4: words instead of violence, you're still interested. I always like
[30:42] Speaker 4: to hear a guy talk in millions. What's the name
[30:46] Speaker 4: of this outfit we're gonna wreck?
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