# Sustaining human life on the Moon and Mars

An episode of [Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/417001442), 4 Jan 2026, 15 min.

Audio: https://bauernordic-pods.sharp-stream.com/ie/2707/future_proof_part_one_pod__ce914d47_normal.mp3?aw_0_1st.episodeid=351276&aw_0_1st.collectionid=2707

Guest: Professor Matthew Gilliham, Director of the Australian Research Council Centre of Excellence in Plants for Space, at the University of Adelaide

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