# Unusual Metamorphoses

An episode of [Futureproof with Jonathan McCrea](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/417001442), 2 Nov 2025, 28 min.

Audio: https://bauernordic-pods.sharp-stream.com/ie/2707/fp_main_edit_70e7caed_normal.mp3?aw_0_1st.episodeid=340614&aw_0_1st.collectionid=2707

Guests: • Author Oren Harman • Shane Bergin & Susan Kelleher

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