# Zanny Minton Beddoes and Ray Dalio on America’s Flailing Economy Under President Trump

An episode of [Fareed Zakaria GPS](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/377785090), 28 Apr 2025, 41 min.

Audio: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/swap.fm/track/2nzGkisFXQswLYT5s325/traffic.megaphone.fm/WMHY3363175730.mp3?updated=1745804671

Today on the show, Fareed speaks with The Economist’s editor-in-chief Zanny Minton Beddoes and hedge fund billionaire Ray Dalio about America’s economic turmoil in the first 100 days of the Trump administration and President Trump’s problems with Fed Chair Jerome Powell. Next, Victoria Nuland, a former senior State Department official, joins the show to discuss the Trump administration’s efforts to negotiate a peace deal in Ukraine. Finally, what will Pope Francis’ progressive legacy mean for the election of the new Pope? Fareed speaks to The New York Times columnist Ross Douthat. Guests: Zanny Minton Beddoes (@zannymb), Ray Dalio (@RayDalio), Victoria Nuland, Ross Douthat (@DouthatNYT) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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