# Paul Murray Live | 15 March

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 15 Mar 2026, 49 min.

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One Nation is now wrenching votes from Labor as it overtakes the Coalition, three more Iranian footballers reverse the asylum decision. Plus, North-West towns are the first in Victoria to run out of fuel. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: From the Signing Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
[0:06] Speaker 2: Goday, mate, Happy Sunday. Hopefully you've had a wonderful weekend.
[0:09] Speaker 2: I certainly know that I have, and I've got the
[0:11] Speaker 2: slight back pain to prove it. Big weekend in the backyard.
[0:14] Speaker 2: All right, No, Sook's no lefties tonight. We'll get into
[0:16] Speaker 2: all of that.
[0:16] Speaker 1: In a second. So simple question.
[0:18] Speaker 2: Has Angus Taylor changed the fortunes of the Liberal Party.
[0:22] Speaker 2: There's a brand new opinion poll that'll give us the answer.
[0:24] Speaker 2: Has Matt Canavan changed the fortunes of the coalition in
[0:28] Speaker 2: his first poll? Yes, that was in the field as
[0:32] Speaker 2: he became the leader. Or is Paul and Hanson still
[0:34] Speaker 2: holding the line?
[0:35] Speaker 1: Well?
[0:36] Speaker 2: Was the little thing at the bottom of the screen
[0:37] Speaker 2: may give you a slight hint. One Nation is now
[0:40] Speaker 2: wrenching votes away from Labor. It is now in front
[0:43] Speaker 2: of the coalition despite those leadership changes.
[0:48] Speaker 1: This is from the Resolve.
[0:49] Speaker 2: Poll, which is in the City Morning Held and the
[0:51] Speaker 2: Age a rampant One Nation has begun taking support from
[0:55] Speaker 2: the alban Eazy government, while the federal opposition's primary vote
[0:59] Speaker 2: has for the first time fallen behind pauling Hanson's.
[1:01] Speaker 1: Cross Bench to hit a new record low.
[1:04] Speaker 2: Now the record lob had already been achieved in a
[1:06] Speaker 2: News poll and the red Bridge Pole. Now it follows
[1:10] Speaker 2: with Labor at twenty nine percent. They are down three
[1:14] Speaker 2: according to this new poll. The Libs are down one
[1:17] Speaker 2: to twenty two, One Nation up to twenty four, the
[1:21] Speaker 2: Greens twelve up one, Independence eight up one and the
[1:26] Speaker 2: other remains the same.
[1:28] Speaker 1: Now before the eagle eyes say well, that number doesn't
[1:30] Speaker 1: add up to one hundred, and hang on, there are more.
[1:32] Speaker 1: There are four that have disappeared. But what look there
[1:35] Speaker 1: is rounding issues here.
[1:37] Speaker 2: So obviously we're going down to a number or we're
[1:40] Speaker 2: going up to a number.
[1:41] Speaker 1: Hens why it doesn't always bang on the one hundred.
[1:43] Speaker 2: But you want to see the story of how Australian
[1:45] Speaker 2: politics has changed since we were getting ready for an
[1:48] Speaker 2: election last.
[1:49] Speaker 1: Year, we'll have a look at this.
[1:50] Speaker 2: Labour support is steady but not fantastic. It is below
[1:57] Speaker 2: thirty percent. At the last election it was above I
[2:00] Speaker 2: think about.
[2:00] Speaker 1: Thirty one, thirty two. Well, now down to twenty nine.
[2:03] Speaker 2: The Liberal story, of course, was almost at thirty five,
[2:07] Speaker 2: now down to twenty two. Yes, one nation is the search,
[2:12] Speaker 2: but it is really interesting to note that this poll
[2:16] Speaker 2: was done a month ago, just before the leadership changes
[2:19] Speaker 2: in the Liberal Party and was in the field after
[2:22] Speaker 2: the changes. When it comes to the National Party. Now,
[2:24] Speaker 2: I'm not going to be unfair to either leader. The
[2:26] Speaker 2: first poll since those changes, they will argue is about
[2:30] Speaker 2: stemming the bleeding. But the belief that there was going
[2:35] Speaker 2: to be a rapid change, well looks like it is
[2:37] Speaker 2: going to be a long march and a long march back.
[2:39] Speaker 1: Now, one issue where Australia is basically split.
[2:43] Speaker 2: Into four quadrants and they're all in separate corners, is
[2:47] Speaker 2: the question of which major political party, and this is
[2:50] Speaker 2: only a choice between Labor and Liberal, which major political
[2:53] Speaker 2: party is best at keeping cost of living low? Now
[2:56] Speaker 2: we know it is the number one issue. People always
[2:58] Speaker 2: say is the number one issue in all of the polls.
[3:01] Speaker 2: But I would have thought the cost of living if bad,
[3:03] Speaker 2: no one was going to turn around and put them back,
[3:06] Speaker 2: but they did at the last election. Anyway, the Libs
[3:08] Speaker 2: are actually up four percent here, so this is the
[3:11] Speaker 2: positive news now. I think in part the Tim Wilson
[3:14] Speaker 2: shadow Treasurer and the fight fight fight around all of
[3:16] Speaker 2: that really helpful. They're in front of labor now at
[3:20] Speaker 2: twenty four percent. Someone else Now obviously someone else is
[3:23] Speaker 2: involved in here is Greens or one nation and another
[3:27] Speaker 2: quarter of people being twenty six percent they are undecided.
[3:32] Speaker 2: There will be a news poll that'll come up sooner
[3:34] Speaker 2: rather than later. As soon as we get that, of course,
[3:36] Speaker 2: we will pass it on to you live here on
[3:38] Speaker 2: the air. Now, last week we were quite happy because
[3:42] Speaker 2: there were members of the Iranian female soccer team after
[3:45] Speaker 2: the Asian Cup commitments had finished, they hadn't made it
[3:48] Speaker 2: through to the quarter finals, that this was a once
[3:51] Speaker 2: in a lifetime opportunity for some of these women to
[3:54] Speaker 2: not return to the regime. Now you may remember, of course,
[3:58] Speaker 2: it was literally this time a Sunday night a week ago,
[4:03] Speaker 2: when at eleven o'clock at night, the paperwork was being signed.
[4:07] Speaker 2: The Home Affairs Minister, using all of his powers under
[4:11] Speaker 2: the Immigration Act, was offering asylum and signing plenty of
[4:15] Speaker 2: these people up well.
[4:18] Speaker 1: Sadly, three of the people who.
[4:21] Speaker 2: Have since that moment said that they wanted to come
[4:23] Speaker 2: to Australia have now changed their mind. The Daily Mail
[4:27] Speaker 2: has circles placed around the people who they believe have
[4:31] Speaker 2: now left the country and are on their way to
[4:34] Speaker 2: join fellow teammates before it is safe to eventually come
[4:37] Speaker 2: back to Iran. Now this is sad and it seems
[4:42] Speaker 2: like remember last week there was a little bit of
[4:44] Speaker 2: a bounce when there was another player and another official
[4:48] Speaker 2: who said that they wanted to come to Australia. Well,
[4:51] Speaker 2: the allegation this evening is that the staffer had no
[4:55] Speaker 2: intentions of staying in Australia. Instead, the staffa was there
[5:01] Speaker 2: to convince the players who had said they wanted to
[5:04] Speaker 2: stay in Australia to change their mind.
[5:06] Speaker 1: They had been.
[5:07] Speaker 2: Successful on at least three Throw them in and you
[5:10] Speaker 2: get what. Four of the seven are on their way back.
[5:14] Speaker 2: Members of Australia's Iranian community believe that Iran used the
[5:18] Speaker 2: support member of the women's football team to convince the
[5:20] Speaker 2: players who sawt of Solomon Australia to go home. A
[5:24] Speaker 2: diasp remember believes that the team's technical staff member, who
[5:28] Speaker 2: was one of the late defectors from the national team,
[5:30] Speaker 2: stayed in Australia as a mouthpiece of the regime. This person,
[5:33] Speaker 2: who was instrumental in persuading half a dozen of the
[5:36] Speaker 2: players to stay in the first place, told the Australian
[5:39] Speaker 2: that the federal government was unprepared for the counter reach
[5:42] Speaker 2: of the Islamic Revolution regard put simply, they took somebody
[5:45] Speaker 2: at their word, that being the non player of the team,
[5:48] Speaker 2: that they wanted to stay here. But the team member
[5:51] Speaker 2: was there the whole time to convince the girls to
[5:53] Speaker 2: go back.
[5:55] Speaker 1: The staff member and the.
[5:56] Speaker 2: Two players have already left Australia and they did so
[6:01] Speaker 2: for Malaysia because that is where the rest of the
[6:03] Speaker 2: squad is before they head home. So maximum pressure after
[6:07] Speaker 2: the gut wrenching decision to stay here. So yes, the
[6:12] Speaker 2: government did the right thing and there is no question
[6:14] Speaker 2: and there's no issue for the government here to be
[6:16] Speaker 2: held responsible.
[6:17] Speaker 1: It is the decision of the players.
[6:19] Speaker 2: And you can imagine the pressure that was upon them
[6:21] Speaker 2: because they weren't able to talk to their families. The
[6:23] Speaker 2: person who was either telling them that you're doing the
[6:26] Speaker 2: wrong thing or maybe just maybe sending some messages about
[6:29] Speaker 2: what might happen to the families. Well that's been the
[6:31] Speaker 2: reason why not one, not two, but three have decided
[6:34] Speaker 2: to change their minds. To the couple that have still left,
[6:38] Speaker 2: you are absolutely welcome here and good to see the
[6:40] Speaker 2: Brisbane raw is there to help you continue in your
[6:43] Speaker 2: professional footballing career. Now, remember when Chris Barne was telling
[6:50] Speaker 2: us for most of last week that all of the
[6:53] Speaker 2: problems when it comes to petrol were kind of made up.
[6:57] Speaker 3: It's important that pep porn know you have a good
[7:00] Speaker 3: stock of petrol in reserve in Australia. Is no need,
[7:04] Speaker 3: no need to be concerned at this point about the
[7:07] Speaker 3: supply of diesel or petrol of Australia because our stocks
[7:10] Speaker 3: are as high as they were before this crisis began.
[7:13] Speaker 3: Our stocks are good. We're working cooperatively with the industry
[7:17] Speaker 3: to ensure that it is delivered to the regions that
[7:19] Speaker 3: are experiencing shortages as quickly and as efficiently as possible.
[7:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, so those comments were Wednesday. We told you on
[7:26] Speaker 2: Thursday they were starting to wobble. Well, even the taxpayer
[7:29] Speaker 2: funded media is noticing what we noticed from the start
[7:32] Speaker 2: of all of this. The diesel is the biggest problem.
[7:36] Speaker 2: And in regional areas where diesel is more likely to
[7:39] Speaker 2: be used by farmers or truckers, you are now starting
[7:42] Speaker 2: to see entire service stations and towns that are now
[7:46] Speaker 2: left without fuel.
[7:48] Speaker 1: This is just two weeks into a war.
[7:50] Speaker 2: And less than one week after the minister had said
[7:52] Speaker 2: there's nothing to see here. Well, at the start of
[7:55] Speaker 2: this week the Energy Minister is now declaring the situation
[7:57] Speaker 2: a national crisis, thing that you should have done one
[8:01] Speaker 2: week ago. And they have actually started to already dip
[8:06] Speaker 2: into the reserves. Now remember it's about a month's worth.
[8:10] Speaker 2: They have already given UF almost a week's worth, so
[8:13] Speaker 2: there is now just what three weeks worth that's left.
[8:17] Speaker 2: The war is two weeks old. It may well go
[8:20] Speaker 2: for another two weeks. Remember that was the original month
[8:22] Speaker 2: long stuff. That would mean that we're going to end
[8:24] Speaker 2: up at the same rate with not very much left
[8:28] Speaker 2: in those national.
[8:28] Speaker 1: Reserves if it goes longer than a month.
[8:30] Speaker 2: And the expectation and the pressure is that a run
[8:33] Speaker 2: plans to make things even harder for people to move
[8:35] Speaker 2: through the strait of homus. You will continue playing the
[8:38] Speaker 2: process that petrol spy tells us tonight is the case.
[8:41] Speaker 2: This is pretty much the same in Sydney. Mouldering of
[8:43] Speaker 2: Brisbane a little high, a little lower, depending on the
[8:45] Speaker 2: service station. But E ten two dollars twenty seven unlettered
[8:49] Speaker 2: two dollars twenty nine Diesel two dollars sixty nine for
[8:52] Speaker 2: diesel will be more expensive than other petrel is of
[8:55] Speaker 2: course a great burden on any and everyone who uses diesel,
[9:00] Speaker 2: not just to power the kids to school in the suv,
[9:03] Speaker 2: but for all those people who are the professional drivers
[9:06] Speaker 2: who keep the country moving. As I pretty did last week,
[9:11] Speaker 2: the Treasure is now out and about the lead up
[9:13] Speaker 2: to his budget and apparently knocking back some of the
[9:16] Speaker 2: suggestions that tax cuts should be there because God forbid
[9:20] Speaker 2: you get to keep any more of your money.
[9:21] Speaker 1: Well, he is.
[9:22] Speaker 2: Now openly starting to lean into what I said he
[9:24] Speaker 2: would be leaning into last week, which is get ready
[9:27] Speaker 2: for inflation to currently which is almost four percent, go
[9:31] Speaker 2: up to five percent. This was Jim Charmer's talking about
[9:36] Speaker 2: inflation today.
[9:39] Speaker 4: So we've run a couple of scenarios which make it
[9:41] Speaker 4: clear on some realistic assumptions about global oil prices and
[9:45] Speaker 4: how that would potentially flow through to inflation and for
[9:49] Speaker 4: how long. You know, if we are putting pencils down
[9:52] Speaker 4: on those forecasts today, we'd have inflation peaking somewhere between
[9:56] Speaker 4: the mid to high fours.
[9:58] Speaker 2: But remember this is the bloke we're supposed to have
[10:01] Speaker 2: had it before. A shot was fired between two and
[10:05] Speaker 2: three percent. It has not been anywhere near two percent
[10:08] Speaker 2: for a significant period of time. Now, of course he
[10:11] Speaker 2: will say that nothing to see here, Nothing was too hot,
[10:14] Speaker 2: nothing was out of control. It's all the international factors
[10:17] Speaker 2: that from this day on mean everything. But of course
[10:21] Speaker 2: if you don't have any cushion, then the pain gets fast.
[10:25] Speaker 2: And Australia has had no cushion, and what cushion we
[10:28] Speaker 2: have had has been taken away since the last election.
[10:32] Speaker 4: The biggest variable, I mean really the source of the
[10:34] Speaker 4: most extraordinary volatility in our forecast and in the economy
[10:38] Speaker 4: more broadly and more importantly, is really how long this
[10:41] Speaker 4: drags out for We know already that it's a very
[10:44] Speaker 4: substantial shock.
[10:46] Speaker 1: I have shown you this many times.
[10:48] Speaker 2: I will continue to show you because yes, from this
[10:51] Speaker 2: moment on we know what happens, which is the effect
[10:54] Speaker 2: on fuel, the effect on everything, supply chains.
[10:57] Speaker 1: And the rest of it that comes as a result
[10:58] Speaker 1: of the war.
[10:59] Speaker 2: Before a shot was fired, when inflation was supposed to
[11:03] Speaker 2: be between two and three percent, it was close to
[11:06] Speaker 2: four percent. And how did that compare with countries around
[11:09] Speaker 2: the world. Well, you can see it was higher than
[11:15] Speaker 2: New Zealand, almost a point higher than the UK, more
[11:18] Speaker 2: than one point four points higher than the USA, one
[11:23] Speaker 2: point five higher than Japan, and double easily double that
[11:29] Speaker 2: of what we're saying in Japan Canada at two point
[11:32] Speaker 2: three percent. All of this, of course feeds into the
[11:34] Speaker 2: big economic news this week in Australia, apart from the
[11:37] Speaker 2: petrol prices, is you're about to get another meeting of
[11:40] Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank.
[11:41] Speaker 1: Now. At the height of things in the end of.
[11:45] Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four the start of twenty twenty five, interest
[11:48] Speaker 2: rates went down three times.
[11:51] Speaker 1: They of course went back up.
[11:53] Speaker 2: Again at the very start of this year, and the
[11:55] Speaker 2: expectation is that they will go up again as early
[11:59] Speaker 2: as this week. What does that mean for people who
[12:03] Speaker 2: are thinking about trying to get onto the property lander.
[12:05] Speaker 2: Perhaps they had spent the past twelve months getting close,
[12:09] Speaker 2: getting close, getting close, and just when they're ready to go,
[12:12] Speaker 2: they're going to be knocked off the table again. Via
[12:14] Speaker 2: real estate dot com dot Au, new research shows that
[12:17] Speaker 2: a rate hike is going to lock thousands out of
[12:20] Speaker 2: home ownership. Now, of course it's not just burst home biased,
[12:23] Speaker 2: but of course it's people wanting to take the next
[12:24] Speaker 2: step to that next house at a second rate height
[12:27] Speaker 2: for the year would push a mortgage out of reach
[12:30] Speaker 2: for vast numbers of borrowers around the country, with those
[12:32] Speaker 2: earning an average income of one hundred thousand dollars now
[12:37] Speaker 2: they're just above average earnings by about twenty five thousand dollars,
[12:42] Speaker 2: completely priced out of the market. In some capital cities,
[12:45] Speaker 2: you could earn one hundred thousand dollars a year, but
[12:48] Speaker 2: you are not going to be able to afford a property.
[12:49] Speaker 1: Why because of the interest rate rises.
[12:51] Speaker 2: That were already rising, because of the government's failures.
[12:56] Speaker 1: As we start to blame the war for everything.
[12:58] Speaker 2: A third rate hike, which is expected not in March
[13:00] Speaker 2: they're not having a meeting then, not in April.
[13:02] Speaker 1: They're not having a meeting then, but.
[13:03] Speaker 2: In May, would put the Australian dream further out of reach.
[13:06] Speaker 2: Canstar has done the data on this. They say the
[13:09] Speaker 2: situation is particularly bleak in New South Wales. Sydney siders
[13:13] Speaker 2: would require a household income of three hundred thousand dollars.
[13:17] Speaker 2: Three hundred thousand dollars to buy a median priced house
[13:21] Speaker 2: with just a five percent deposit, and you'd qualify for
[13:23] Speaker 2: all of the other help that's out there. Meanwhile, in Victoria,
[13:26] Speaker 2: a single interest rate hike will knock out one hundred
[13:30] Speaker 2: and fifty suburbs where a person owning under one hundred
[13:33] Speaker 2: thousand dollars can afford a mortgage, just.
[13:37] Speaker 1: Ten of those areas.
[13:38] Speaker 2: And now left in Melbourne in Queensland, the average way
[13:40] Speaker 2: journa is already priced out of a Gold Coast house market.
[13:43] Speaker 2: You need to earn between two hundred and three hundred
[13:46] Speaker 2: an annual. Way just become a standard to requirement in
[13:49] Speaker 2: some suburbs, certainly of the Gold Coast. And then Brisbane
[13:51] Speaker 2: is set to follow if the rate rise happens. And
[13:55] Speaker 2: because it was hot before the war got hotter, you
[13:59] Speaker 2: expect is that there will be a rate rise that
[14:02] Speaker 2: will happen this week. Fingers crossed it does not happen. Firstly,
[14:04] Speaker 2: is somebody trying to pay off ouse. But secondly for
[14:07] Speaker 2: those that are having a very tough time, tough time
[14:10] Speaker 2: that remember way back when before Albo became Prime minister,
[14:13] Speaker 2: they promised they were going to make things better. Well,
[14:15] Speaker 2: of course it has only ever got worse. I hope
[14:18] Speaker 2: people continue to remember that it is not an accident
[14:20] Speaker 2: that who is in charge can help make things slightly
[14:23] Speaker 2: better or slightly worse, and at every turn they make
[14:26] Speaker 2: it slightly or a whole lot more worse. As for
[14:31] Speaker 2: the war itself, interesting to note that for the past
[14:34] Speaker 2: week or so, we've been talking about a little bit.
[14:36] Speaker 1: Of a golf and by that I'm being.
[14:37] Speaker 2: Polite between the President of the United States Donald Trump
[14:41] Speaker 2: and the Prime Ministry of the United Kingdom Kiir Starmer. Now,
[14:45] Speaker 2: about a week ago, one week into everything that had
[14:48] Speaker 2: happened in Iran, Trump was already saying that they've won,
[14:53] Speaker 2: but there was a back and forth about whether the
[14:54] Speaker 2: UK would or wouldn't end up sending naval craft two
[15:00] Speaker 2: the Strait of Homuz. Well, now a week after apparently
[15:04] Speaker 2: winning the war, Trump is now saying that the UK
[15:06] Speaker 2: and other nations, including Australia should send warships. Now, this
[15:11] Speaker 2: is not about sending warships to be able to blow
[15:14] Speaker 2: Iran off the map. It is about making sure that
[15:16] Speaker 2: they can help the oil tankers that will have to
[15:20] Speaker 2: move through the strait. Remember, twenty percent of oil oil
[15:23] Speaker 2: production comes through that area, while ninety seven percent of
[15:26] Speaker 2: our fuel comes from Singapore. Guess where they get it from.
[15:29] Speaker 2: All of the areas that are affected by what is
[15:31] Speaker 2: happening in the Middle East and our petrol stations have
[15:35] Speaker 2: been running out a week after our government said nothing
[15:38] Speaker 2: to see here. So it only gets worse before it
[15:41] Speaker 2: gets better in terms of Australia. By the way, Australia
[15:44] Speaker 2: is well offering no public comment right now about whether
[15:47] Speaker 2: or not this is something that we want to do
[15:49] Speaker 2: or whether we will do, because of course we live
[15:51] Speaker 2: in this nonsense. Whereas we reported here on Sky one
[15:54] Speaker 2: his last week, even when you're on a submarine that
[15:56] Speaker 2: is firing the missiles that is helping to knock over
[15:58] Speaker 2: the Iranian regime, the Australians that are on it, there
[16:01] Speaker 2: were three of them and they were told to go
[16:02] Speaker 2: to their bunks, because apparently that makes a difference. Government sources,
[16:06] Speaker 2: speaking on the condition of anonymity on Sunday, said that
[16:08] Speaker 2: Australia had not received a formal request, So i e.
[16:12] Speaker 2: We know it's on Twitter, we know it's in the interviews,
[16:14] Speaker 2: but we haven't got the letter yet. You know snail
[16:15] Speaker 2: mail matters in a war. Well, any request will be considered.
[16:19] Speaker 2: The sources said that the government was not eager to
[16:21] Speaker 2: send key naval ascids to the Middle East's priority was
[16:24] Speaker 2: the Indo Pacific. So could somebody explain to me about
[16:29] Speaker 2: we're definitely interested in Ukraine, but we're certainly not interested
[16:32] Speaker 2: in Iran.
[16:34] Speaker 1: Nothing to see here.
[16:35] Speaker 2: Meantime, there is a particular island just off Iran, which
[16:41] Speaker 2: is where it is a b part of how they
[16:44] Speaker 2: move fuel around the world. The US has been bang bang,
[16:48] Speaker 2: banging away at that and dropping plenty of bombs. You
[16:50] Speaker 2: might have seen this footage, if not, once the impact
[16:55] Speaker 2: starts to be clear, and it is incredible.
[16:57] Speaker 1: The footage that we get to see out of this stuff.
[16:59] Speaker 1: It doesn't lessen that.
[17:00] Speaker 2: Yes, they're probably are lives that are lost in all
[17:02] Speaker 2: of these moments, but still they were whacking away and
[17:04] Speaker 2: whacking hard. But Iran made some bizarre comment that the UAE,
[17:09] Speaker 2: the United Arab Emirates, somehow now is part of the
[17:11] Speaker 2: war and gets deserved to be wiped off the map
[17:13] Speaker 2: itself because the strike allegedly came from their territory. Now,
[17:19] Speaker 2: it wasn't shots fired by the UAE at worst, from
[17:22] Speaker 2: their perspective, it is something that's coming from an American
[17:28] Speaker 2: army base that might be there, but that's not the
[17:30] Speaker 2: UAE anyway. Wait watching c because of course the Uae
[17:34] Speaker 2: is one of those countries that is thankfully south of
[17:37] Speaker 2: the key part of the Strait of Homus, and they
[17:39] Speaker 2: do have oil production.
[17:41] Speaker 1: But it is not as significant as other.
[17:43] Speaker 2: Places away from the war. Back to the war about
[17:46] Speaker 2: the future of the great State of Victoria, and sadly,
[17:50] Speaker 2: the current premier in my view, is on track to
[17:54] Speaker 2: being re elected. Now she shouldn't be. The government shouldn't be,
[17:57] Speaker 2: but Andrews shouldn't have been in the government, shouldn't have been.
[17:59] Speaker 2: Vitiore is in the worst place. It's been a long time.
[18:02] Speaker 2: But the key reason why they think they'd get deserved
[18:05] Speaker 2: to get re elected is we're not them, We're not them.
[18:08] Speaker 2: Interesting story though, is that even though Labor might be
[18:10] Speaker 2: on its way to winning the election, there is a
[18:12] Speaker 2: chance small remoted in my view probably not going to happen,
[18:16] Speaker 2: which is that the Premier herself may lose her seat
[18:18] Speaker 2: at the state election. Why because her seat isn't in Melbourne.
[18:22] Speaker 2: Her seat is actually not too far and it's called
[18:24] Speaker 2: Bendigo East, so she is in a regional area. Regional
[18:28] Speaker 2: areas do not like this government, but Bendigo East, that
[18:32] Speaker 2: half of the area of Bendigo has been pretty good
[18:35] Speaker 2: and kept her in power. Well, secret poll and commissioned
[18:38] Speaker 2: by the Nationals has delivered a tantalizing result. According to
[18:43] Speaker 2: the bas column in the Herald Sun Today, spy say
[18:46] Speaker 2: because it shows the Premier Justiner Allen, the seat of
[18:48] Speaker 2: Bendigo East could be in play. Bas His is that
[18:51] Speaker 2: the party has quietly tested the seat in recent weeks
[18:53] Speaker 2: and the finding raised more than a few eyebrows, with
[18:55] Speaker 2: results that would forcus Allen would lose her seat if
[18:57] Speaker 2: the election was held today. Only problem is the election
[18:59] Speaker 2: isn't hell to day it is held in November. There'll
[19:01] Speaker 2: be in a mighty scare campaign between now and November.
[19:05] Speaker 2: So I understand why there's a headline. I understand why
[19:08] Speaker 2: there's a story, and I understand why there's polling. But
[19:11] Speaker 2: when you actually have a look at more robust polling
[19:13] Speaker 2: across the entire state and remember, yes, I know Bendigo,
[19:18] Speaker 2: it could well be an issue. I hope the good
[19:20] Speaker 2: people of that great city flush. They're local labor emped
[19:24] Speaker 2: this one being the premiere, you need to actually have
[19:26] Speaker 2: a look at the overall picture right now.
[19:28] Speaker 1: Now.
[19:29] Speaker 2: If one nation finishes in front of the Libs, the
[19:31] Speaker 2: numbers get better for Labor. So let's just imagine that
[19:34] Speaker 2: in two party pre third it is Labor Party versus Liberals.
[19:37] Speaker 2: Latest One has the Libs winning, Latest Morgan has Labor winning,
[19:44] Speaker 2: Freshwater is dead, even red Bridge is the Libs winning.
[19:47] Speaker 2: But all of those are before the election campaign kicks in,
[19:51] Speaker 2: which means, let's have a look at where the betting
[19:52] Speaker 2: is right now, the gossip mill may be that maybe
[19:55] Speaker 2: fingers crossed. If everything goes right, the premier loses her seat,
[19:58] Speaker 2: but by some reasonable margin. If you're a betting person,
[20:02] Speaker 2: or at least you just want to see the indication
[20:03] Speaker 2: of support, the support is behind labor, Labor being re
[20:07] Speaker 2: elected in Victoria.
[20:09] Speaker 1: Come on, Victoria, do better. You might get rid of
[20:11] Speaker 1: these people.
[20:13] Speaker 2: Now, for as long as I've had access to a
[20:15] Speaker 2: camera or microphone, I've been talking that Australia has made
[20:18] Speaker 2: a series of errors about our own future, most notably
[20:22] Speaker 2: that we tell everyone they have to go to university. Now,
[20:25] Speaker 2: this has been going for about thirty years now. It
[20:28] Speaker 2: ain't a two weeks ago thing. It's not a new phenomena.
[20:31] Speaker 2: It is something that absolutely got supercharged in the nineteen nineties.
[20:35] Speaker 2: Everyone must go to universities. Well of course, the reality
[20:38] Speaker 2: is is that for a big chunk of people that
[20:40] Speaker 2: go to university, all they end up doing is owing
[20:42] Speaker 2: taxpayers money. Now, surely that gets forgiven as a way
[20:46] Speaker 2: of buying off votes on an election. But if you
[20:49] Speaker 2: want to make some real money, become a tradee. If
[20:52] Speaker 2: you are on the line ball and you are thinking
[20:53] Speaker 2: about doing something, learn how to swing a hammer, learn
[20:57] Speaker 2: how to do something with your hands that I don't
[21:00] Speaker 2: mean sculpting. Now, we of course have universities right now
[21:05] Speaker 2: who frankly have too many places on offer. Their business
[21:09] Speaker 2: model is broken. Let me explain why. Let's imagine you've
[21:12] Speaker 2: got fifty kids in a classroom. Well, obviously they try
[21:15] Speaker 2: to sell as many of those seats as possible, so
[21:18] Speaker 2: that could sell twenty of the seats. The next ten
[21:22] Speaker 2: seats could be for the kids that are considered smart
[21:24] Speaker 2: enough to make it into the class because they qualify
[21:27] Speaker 2: with the atar, and then you just keep lowering the
[21:30] Speaker 2: bar until you fill the rest of the room. It
[21:32] Speaker 2: doesn't matter whether they're good enough or not. You see,
[21:34] Speaker 2: you get paid by the taxpayer to fill the room.
[21:39] Speaker 2: So rather than doing anything about their business model, like
[21:41] Speaker 2: say offering fewer places, making sure there's always a place
[21:44] Speaker 2: for a kid that's smart enough, but maybe not one
[21:47] Speaker 2: for everyone who can pay for it from overseas, and
[21:49] Speaker 2: maybe not fill the entire classroom with the kids who
[21:52] Speaker 2: haven't actually qualified to do it. Bill Shorten says there
[21:57] Speaker 2: should be a brand new tax. He believes there should
[22:01] Speaker 2: be a tax on company profits why to help fund universities.
[22:06] Speaker 2: Stick it with a Sundays and Shine man who never
[22:08] Speaker 2: became Prime minister. The tax is already high enough. Meantime,
[22:13] Speaker 2: great report today about the number of kids that are
[22:16] Speaker 2: actually thinking about picking up a hammer, that are thinking
[22:18] Speaker 2: about whacking on the tool belt, that are trying to
[22:20] Speaker 2: join the trades new so while students in particular are
[22:24] Speaker 2: starting to flip the script on tathe According to the
[22:27] Speaker 2: Sunday Telegraph today, congratulations to an Accord Wall and the
[22:30] Speaker 2: whole team who put that out this weekend. Teenagers are
[22:33] Speaker 2: more interested in studying a trade now than they were
[22:37] Speaker 2: ten years ago.
[22:37] Speaker 1: This is great.
[22:38] Speaker 2: New research is revealed with taife the top choice almost
[22:41] Speaker 2: one in five high school students. How a Freaking lou Yah,
[22:44] Speaker 2: How a Freaking New yar Across the seven schools that
[22:49] Speaker 2: were surveyed, seventy eight students in total were surveyed almost
[22:52] Speaker 2: half did they want to go to university, nineteen percent
[22:55] Speaker 2: wanted to go to TAFE one and four. I know
[22:58] Speaker 2: between twenty twelve twenty fifteen, the similar surveys were first conducted,
[23:01] Speaker 2: it was only fourteen percent of people who wanted to
[23:03] Speaker 2: go to TAPE. So thankfully a turn is on. Let's
[23:07] Speaker 2: go to some worth of mensions to rip through some
[23:10] Speaker 2: of the other things that we need to get to
[23:11] Speaker 2: right now now. As you know, the seat of Farah
[23:15] Speaker 2: a by election is coming up there now. It is
[23:18] Speaker 2: something that doesn't happen until the ninth of May, so
[23:20] Speaker 2: there is a lot of politics to play at the
[23:22] Speaker 2: local level and the national level between now and then.
[23:25] Speaker 2: As we showed you last week, the One Nation Team
[23:28] Speaker 2: they have got their candidate. As we also showed you
[23:30] Speaker 2: last week, the National Party has got its candidate. As
[23:35] Speaker 2: for the Tiffany Teal Well, they are the same candidate
[23:37] Speaker 2: who tried to run against Susan Lee before. But of
[23:41] Speaker 2: course it's definitely not a Teal because she's a Country
[23:43] Speaker 2: Tale and the Country Teals are orange. But they still
[23:46] Speaker 2: have the same financial backing as the Tiffany tals Well.
[23:48] Speaker 2: Today the Liberal Party have decided to pick their candidate.
[23:52] Speaker 1: I don't know why this took so long, but they
[23:54] Speaker 1: did anyway.
[23:55] Speaker 2: The Liberal Party has selected an Aubrey counselor to run
[23:58] Speaker 2: in Susan Lee's electorate of Farah. This person is a
[24:02] Speaker 2: senior lawyer and the human river in a community legal
[24:04] Speaker 2: service as best at the fellow parliamentary aspirant and a
[24:09] Speaker 2: former Susan Lee staffer to get the gig. Meantime, Barnaby
[24:13] Speaker 2: Joyce is very keen to tell people that it will
[24:16] Speaker 2: be preferences that will decide whether one nation gets there
[24:19] Speaker 2: or not. And by that he means will the Libs
[24:22] Speaker 2: send them to one nation, will the Nationals send them
[24:25] Speaker 2: to one nation?
[24:25] Speaker 1: Or the Libs and the NAT's back.
[24:27] Speaker 2: The teal meaning the bookie's favorite of the teal would
[24:30] Speaker 2: win the seat.
[24:32] Speaker 5: There's a real campaign by all the other parties to
[24:34] Speaker 5: put us last. It just goes to show that people
[24:37] Speaker 5: have a real fear of one nation because it breaks
[24:39] Speaker 5: the party up.
[24:40] Speaker 1: They don't like it.
[24:41] Speaker 5: So I will absolutely be assure you that one Nation
[24:44] Speaker 5: will poll number one in many seats. But then the
[24:48] Speaker 5: preference flows of the other parties to try and make
[24:50] Speaker 5: sure that one nation doesn't get up.
[24:52] Speaker 1: We'll see where that resides.
[24:55] Speaker 2: Now, there was another Formula One race today and another
[24:58] Speaker 2: terrible time for those of us that are fans of
[25:01] Speaker 2: Oscar Pastri. In fact, Oscar Piastri, who was leading the
[25:04] Speaker 2: World Drivers' Championship up to two races last year, has
[25:07] Speaker 2: not raced a single lap in twenty twenty six. White, Well,
[25:11] Speaker 2: you saw the crash in Melbourne today. Neither of the McLaren's,
[25:15] Speaker 2: including the teammate and raigning world champion Landon Norris, even
[25:19] Speaker 2: got out of the garage. Some power problem and hush meantime,
[25:24] Speaker 2: it was Kimmy Antonelli who ended up winning. This kid
[25:27] Speaker 2: is going to be as big as any of the
[25:32] Speaker 2: more recent grades. He may not win seven World championships
[25:35] Speaker 2: like Lewis Hamilton, he may not win four World championships
[25:37] Speaker 2: like Max Verstappen. But this kid, who was already the
[25:41] Speaker 2: youngest person who ever get on pole that happened yesterday,
[25:44] Speaker 2: he is now the second youngest of all time to
[25:46] Speaker 2: win a race.
[25:46] Speaker 1: So write the name down Kimmi Antonelli. Now.
[25:50] Speaker 2: Also, there is going to be no racing after a
[25:52] Speaker 2: couple of weeks time, when it will be in Japan.
[25:54] Speaker 2: All of this is great for time. It means you're
[25:56] Speaker 2: able to check it out, watch it on KO or
[25:58] Speaker 2: Fox Sports, and see the news in the afternoon here
[26:00] Speaker 2: on Sunday before all were supposed to go to the
[26:03] Speaker 2: Middle East will unsurprisingly bah Rain canceled, Saudi Arabia canceled,
[26:08] Speaker 2: meaning there will be one month of no Formula One,
[26:11] Speaker 2: but there will be supercars. There will be other things
[26:13] Speaker 2: to talk about and no look forward to doing so.
[26:15] Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us tonight this Sunday night. We are
[26:17] Speaker 2: just getting started. You can see we are fully recharged
[26:20] Speaker 2: and we will deploy the battery beautifully over the next hour.
[26:24] Speaker 2: We're in a second year on Paul Murray Line.
[26:30] Speaker 1: Thanks again for watching.
[26:31] Speaker 2: Remember you can always send me an email Paul atskoyews
[26:33] Speaker 2: dot com dot Are you by the way full house
[26:35] Speaker 2: in Port mcquarie for next weekend when we're going to
[26:38] Speaker 2: be there for our town, So hope you join us.
[26:40] Speaker 2: Then it's going to be a fun time. In fact,
[26:43] Speaker 2: not next weekend weekend after next weekend South Australian election,
[26:46] Speaker 2: we'll try and chicken with Corey Benardi about how one
[26:48] Speaker 2: nation is going there. In the meantime, let us go
[26:51] Speaker 2: to Adelaide right now where Daniel Wild is there from
[26:53] Speaker 2: the Institute of Public Affairs the IPA.
[26:55] Speaker 1: Love you to see you, mate, Holly Hughes, after.
[26:57] Speaker 2: A big weekend at the pub, What was the biggest
[26:59] Speaker 2: thing that happened to the pub this weekend, former Liberal
[27:01] Speaker 2: senator and dear friend, Oh, I.
[27:03] Speaker 6: Had my brother in law's seventieth birthday here last night,
[27:08] Speaker 6: and can I tell you the most beautiful part about
[27:10] Speaker 6: it was when the music.
[27:11] Speaker 7: Was on and all the family were out there dancing.
[27:15] Speaker 6: All the locals came out and it was just such
[27:18] Speaker 6: a fab night. But it was just so lovely to
[27:21] Speaker 6: have everybody together, all of our locals who were very
[27:24] Speaker 6: quickly becoming family, and my brother in law and all
[27:29] Speaker 6: that family.
[27:29] Speaker 7: So it was lovely big night.
[27:31] Speaker 6: And then we had the local here filming for seven
[27:33] Speaker 6: hours today, so I am so excited to be with you.
[27:37] Speaker 2: And then I'm going to be all right, Thank you,
[27:39] Speaker 2: my love, hold on for as long as you can,
[27:40] Speaker 2: all right.
[27:41] Speaker 1: So I mentioned at the.
[27:42] Speaker 2: Start of the show, we have two new leaders, yet
[27:46] Speaker 2: we do not have hugely changed fortunes when it comes
[27:49] Speaker 2: to the coalition right now now, obviously I'm being very
[27:54] Speaker 2: quick here, not to judge, not to put nails in
[27:57] Speaker 2: political this, that and the others, but obviously were either
[28:00] Speaker 2: to stem the bleed or the beginning of a comeback.
[28:03] Speaker 2: On some poles you start to see a little up.
[28:05] Speaker 2: On some poles, you start to see a little down.
[28:07] Speaker 2: I thought it was fascinating in the poll that I
[28:09] Speaker 2: spoke about at the top of the show that it
[28:11] Speaker 2: is the coalition that are down and the one nation
[28:14] Speaker 2: that is way up. Where are they getting it from. Well,
[28:17] Speaker 2: they're getting a little more from labor than they got
[28:19] Speaker 2: from the Libs this time around. But Daniel, again, I'm
[28:22] Speaker 2: not pretending that Angus Taylor that's it, he's done.
[28:25] Speaker 1: Matt Canavan, oh my goodness, what a failure. Please.
[28:28] Speaker 2: I think that Matt's going to be worth a few
[28:30] Speaker 2: more points in the next little while, so we'll wait,
[28:33] Speaker 2: watch and see. But it is a reminder to anyone
[28:35] Speaker 2: who thinks the restart button doesn't take.
[28:38] Speaker 1: A long time to kick in. Welcome to the real world.
[28:43] Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly right.
[28:44] Speaker 9: And I think most MPs in the Liberal Party and
[28:46] Speaker 9: National Party understand that the biggest challenge they have is
[28:49] Speaker 9: trust with the community and with the electorate. After having
[28:51] Speaker 9: been in government for over ten years and then had
[28:55] Speaker 9: a fairly averaged hint in opposition. So far, the key
[28:57] Speaker 9: thing is to rebuild trust. What's dawned on me recently,
[29:00] Speaker 9: Paul is there's really only one person who now can
[29:03] Speaker 9: stop Pauling Hanson, and that's Pauling Hanson. It's going to
[29:07] Speaker 9: be very difficult for the coalition to be able to
[29:10] Speaker 9: deal with her head on. You cannot really win a
[29:12] Speaker 9: war on two flanks, which is very challenging to do.
[29:15] Speaker 9: So there's an element to which, and this is something
[29:17] Speaker 9: you've been talking about for a while now, which is
[29:20] Speaker 9: there's a large minority of the community have said, look,
[29:22] Speaker 9: we've given the Blue team a go, we're too keen
[29:25] Speaker 9: on that we're giving the Red team a go. Don't
[29:27] Speaker 9: like them, So now we're going to give the Orange
[29:29] Speaker 9: team a go. So it does seem like a lot
[29:31] Speaker 9: of Australians are now saying, look, let's give one nation
[29:33] Speaker 9: a crack and see what they can do. So it's
[29:35] Speaker 9: going to be hard to take them down directly. The
[29:38] Speaker 9: other point, just quickly, in terms of one nation taking
[29:41] Speaker 9: votes from labor, well, this is a big deal because
[29:44] Speaker 9: this is how Trump got in by winning traditional Democrat voters.
[29:47] Speaker 9: It's how Brexit got done, It's how farage got up
[29:51] Speaker 9: in the poll. So now that they're taking votes from
[29:53] Speaker 9: the left and the right, this would suggest that their
[29:56] Speaker 9: position on the political scene has been largely cemented.
[30:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Holly, I think that again, if anyone's
[30:02] Speaker 2: paying attention, this government since getting re elected have made
[30:06] Speaker 2: things worse, not better. When it comes to the economy,
[30:08] Speaker 2: the advantage they had when it came to cost of living,
[30:10] Speaker 2: because frankly, they had an offering that the opposition didn't
[30:14] Speaker 2: twelve months ago. What would you do? What we will
[30:16] Speaker 2: buy you off here and give you this, that and
[30:18] Speaker 2: the other. Well much that's been taken back, which now
[30:21] Speaker 2: means inflation was already hot before we start to get
[30:24] Speaker 2: into what they're going to try to blame it for
[30:26] Speaker 2: in the next little while. But what does it say
[30:28] Speaker 2: to you that either where it's stem the bleeding rather
[30:32] Speaker 2: than any giant jump. Because generally speaking, when you do
[30:35] Speaker 2: have a leadership change, you do get a bit of
[30:37] Speaker 2: a spike.
[30:39] Speaker 6: Yeah, No, normally you do see a bit of a bump.
[30:41] Speaker 6: There hasn't been one. I mean, I'm huge fan of
[30:44] Speaker 6: Matt Canavan. You know, I have all the time in
[30:46] Speaker 6: the world for him, and from the NAT's perspective, obviously
[30:50] Speaker 6: a lot of the bleed that's going to one nation
[30:52] Speaker 6: is coming in those regional areas. So I understand why
[30:55] Speaker 6: he's sort of putting a foot forward there saying, you know,
[30:59] Speaker 6: taking the fight up to one nation. But the reality is,
[31:02] Speaker 6: from a center right perspective, you want to make sure
[31:04] Speaker 6: that the fight's being taken up to this absolutely horrific
[31:07] Speaker 6: labor government.
[31:09] Speaker 7: But you know, I've been having a few conversations over
[31:11] Speaker 7: the week.
[31:12] Speaker 6: And you know, I got to say, I don't know
[31:14] Speaker 6: how the coalition stays together when you've got moderates in
[31:18] Speaker 6: the Liberals who are focused on trying to win Teal
[31:22] Speaker 6: seats back, and you've got Canavan.
[31:24] Speaker 7: Who's out there saying we're going.
[31:26] Speaker 6: To build more cold cold firepower stations. Now I see
[31:30] Speaker 6: it more in the mat camp when it comes to
[31:32] Speaker 6: those sorts of issues. But how you can and to
[31:36] Speaker 6: Daniel's point about fighting on two sides and two flags,
[31:40] Speaker 6: you've got some in the Liberals trying to Outlaybor the
[31:43] Speaker 6: Teals out, you know, go to the left all the time.
[31:47] Speaker 6: And then if you've got Matt taking the nets to
[31:50] Speaker 6: a more conservative standpoint and coming out and saying about
[31:54] Speaker 6: a net zero let's get cold fire back into the
[31:57] Speaker 6: system in a big way. I don't see how those
[32:00] Speaker 6: two can reconcile each other well.
[32:02] Speaker 2: But that's it to this very point though, Daniel, in
[32:04] Speaker 2: the many conversations that we've had, right, and the polling
[32:08] Speaker 2: tells us all the rest of it, right, if there
[32:09] Speaker 2: is a stark contrast between the government and the opposition
[32:13] Speaker 2: on front and center issues such as net zero, then
[32:16] Speaker 2: they will start to make their choices. Reality though dumping
[32:20] Speaker 2: net zero has been in place now for multiple months,
[32:23] Speaker 2: yet we are not seeing the payoff.
[32:25] Speaker 8: Why because there hasn't been a campaign on it.
[32:30] Speaker 9: You have to tell people what you're doing and why
[32:33] Speaker 9: you're doing it, and in this case why the government
[32:35] Speaker 9: is not doing a good job, and you have to
[32:36] Speaker 9: do it day after day after day, and that hasn't
[32:39] Speaker 9: really been done so far. The other thing, Paul is,
[32:43] Speaker 9: and I know you're an observer of UK politics, which
[32:45] Speaker 9: is you look at the Tories. I actually think can
[32:47] Speaker 9: be bad knocks a pretty good leader. I think they've
[32:49] Speaker 9: got some pretty good policies. But you know the problem
[32:52] Speaker 9: is if people aren't listening to you, it doesn't matter
[32:56] Speaker 9: how good your policies are.
[32:57] Speaker 8: It doesn't matter how good your front bench is.
[32:59] Speaker 9: So you know, step number one is the community needs
[33:02] Speaker 9: to start and this is from a Liberal party perspective.
[33:05] Speaker 9: The community needs to start listening to the liberal party
[33:07] Speaker 9: when people from the liberal parties speak, and they need
[33:10] Speaker 9: to trust that they'll do what they say.
[33:12] Speaker 8: Now, can they achieve that in the next couple of years.
[33:14] Speaker 8: I don't know.
[33:15] Speaker 9: I think they probably can. But simply going down the
[33:17] Speaker 9: path is saying we need policies, we need policies, we
[33:20] Speaker 9: need policies. Well, yes, at some point you do, but
[33:22] Speaker 9: there's a piece of work that needs to be done
[33:24] Speaker 9: before that, which is to actually engage the community and
[33:27] Speaker 9: make sure they're listening when people with a blue shirt
[33:29] Speaker 9: on are actually speaking.
[33:31] Speaker 1: Well.
[33:31] Speaker 2: Two bits of free advice, and of course free advice
[33:33] Speaker 2: is exactly what people pay for it. Right, if I
[33:35] Speaker 2: was one nation, I would be telling everyone that the
[33:38] Speaker 2: income splitting thing is their policy. Why because Matt has
[33:43] Speaker 2: come out and said, look, you know we might look
[33:44] Speaker 2: at this sort of thing, right, so obviously you want.
[33:46] Speaker 1: To own that nice and now. Right.
[33:48] Speaker 2: Secondly, the good thing for the NATS though, and the
[33:51] Speaker 2: good thing potentially for the coalition. Whatever the social media
[33:54] Speaker 2: is team that is behind the Young Nationals get a
[33:57] Speaker 2: lot of those people into some of the higher offices
[33:59] Speaker 2: because they know how to play the game. And it
[34:01] Speaker 2: jumps over the six pm music, jumps over the conversation
[34:04] Speaker 2: that we're having right now, It jumps over what is
[34:07] Speaker 2: in the paper or online each and every day. All right,
[34:10] Speaker 2: what about inflation and the unions? Well, they of course
[34:13] Speaker 2: know how to make everything better, don't they, Holly? Well,
[34:16] Speaker 2: apparently the unions now want companies to pay more. Why
[34:20] Speaker 2: because the truckees are paying more for the fuel. They
[34:23] Speaker 2: want them to pay the gig workers who drive the
[34:26] Speaker 2: cars either to drive people around or to drop stuff off,
[34:29] Speaker 2: to be paid more.
[34:31] Speaker 1: Now.
[34:31] Speaker 2: I have no problem with workers being paid more, none
[34:34] Speaker 2: at all. But is there a slight problem here, Holly,
[34:37] Speaker 2: where you know this starts to flow across the economy
[34:41] Speaker 2: and then don't you start to get to stagflation where
[34:43] Speaker 2: if you get wages chasing inflation, then you start getting
[34:46] Speaker 2: into nineteen seventies problems.
[34:47] Speaker 1: And we've already got fuel shortages, so we're sort of
[34:49] Speaker 1: halfway there.
[34:51] Speaker 6: Yeah, oh look, and you know, yeah, of course, cost
[34:54] Speaker 6: of livings pressures for everybody, and they're saying, oh, we
[34:57] Speaker 6: need to help the gig workers, we need to help
[34:58] Speaker 6: those sort of at the bottom of that food distribution
[35:01] Speaker 6: or delivery system, those that are at the bottom of.
[35:04] Speaker 7: That supply chain.
[35:05] Speaker 6: But the reality is every time those costs go up.
[35:09] Speaker 7: Someone's got to wear them.
[35:11] Speaker 6: And at the end of the day, it's going to
[35:13] Speaker 6: be an awful lot of Australian businesses who.
[35:16] Speaker 7: Are going to say that's it.
[35:17] Speaker 6: I can't afford an extra staff, but I cannot afford
[35:20] Speaker 6: to be open on this public holiday.
[35:22] Speaker 7: I cannot afford to keep this business running.
[35:25] Speaker 6: And there's a lot of businesses that are really operating
[35:28] Speaker 6: on the smell of an oily rag.
[35:29] Speaker 7: At a moment, and you start whacking you know, more
[35:32] Speaker 7: and more costs onto.
[35:34] Speaker 6: The delivery of everything that a business requires, they've either
[35:37] Speaker 6: got to pass the costs on to people who are
[35:39] Speaker 6: doing it tough all the business.
[35:41] Speaker 7: Is no longer viable.
[35:42] Speaker 6: It was only the other week I was listening to
[35:44] Speaker 6: one of the reps from the shop Is on one
[35:47] Speaker 6: of the talkback radio stations talking about how excellent it
[35:50] Speaker 6: would be because you know, Bunning's and Ikere have done it.
[35:53] Speaker 6: To give people an extra week's holiday with zero productivity requirements,
[35:59] Speaker 6: all of.
[35:59] Speaker 7: These other factors. I thought my blood was going to
[36:02] Speaker 7: boil out well into it. These people have.
[36:05] Speaker 6: No clue how expensive it is to run a business,
[36:08] Speaker 6: to train staff members are, how difficult it is to
[36:11] Speaker 6: even get staff members sometimes you know it's and then
[36:15] Speaker 6: to say don't worry.
[36:16] Speaker 7: We're going to give them all more, you know, and
[36:18] Speaker 7: you'll leave.
[36:19] Speaker 6: And these businesses, it's different when you've got iqre and
[36:21] Speaker 6: you've got twenty thousand people on your books.
[36:23] Speaker 7: It's a bit different when you're the small business with
[36:26] Speaker 7: eight or ten stuff. It's just not possible.
[36:28] Speaker 1: I agree completely, and I keep saying this.
[36:31] Speaker 2: Right, we know how successful community based campaigns can be.
[36:35] Speaker 2: Right when people put a little sign in their window,
[36:37] Speaker 2: all the rest of it. Right, If small business started
[36:40] Speaker 2: to agree on a particular logo which was closed early
[36:43] Speaker 2: because of elbow or something like that, and you start
[36:46] Speaker 2: whacking that, all people start to see CCCC right, Okay, look,
[36:50] Speaker 2: the big TV adds all the rest of it. Right, So,
[36:52] Speaker 2: and I get it. You don't want to piss off
[36:54] Speaker 2: half the town that may well vote the other way.
[36:56] Speaker 2: But if this is the line in the sand. Well,
[36:58] Speaker 2: time to start pointing it out right.
[37:00] Speaker 6: And just on that point though, you know, have a
[37:03] Speaker 6: look how many businesses are closed on the additional public
[37:06] Speaker 6: holiday that Chris Mins is putting New South Wales now
[37:09] Speaker 6: after an tap day. People cannot afford public holiday staff rates.
[37:14] Speaker 7: I mean it's exorbitant.
[37:15] Speaker 6: Well, people get paid and I know they're working at
[37:17] Speaker 6: public holiday, but when you work in certain industries, that's
[37:20] Speaker 6: sort of what you do because you're in a hospitality
[37:23] Speaker 6: business where people come out when they've got their time off,
[37:25] Speaker 6: but you cannot afford to pay staff to work those days.
[37:29] Speaker 6: And we're reviewing if I can't get my kids here
[37:33] Speaker 6: to work for mum rates and you know, ow I
[37:36] Speaker 6: don't know whether we can afford to open.
[37:38] Speaker 2: Daniel, do you care that the Prime Minister went on
[37:41] Speaker 2: the ground when there were plenty that said you shouldn't
[37:45] Speaker 2: go on the footy field, when, of course one of
[37:46] Speaker 2: his favorite Souths players ended up breaking the record for
[37:49] Speaker 2: the most number of tri scored ever. Now, those that
[37:52] Speaker 2: want to be very pedantic about it, he may well
[37:53] Speaker 2: be walking on the sideline, which technically isn't the ground,
[37:56] Speaker 2: But you get the point, okay.
[37:58] Speaker 1: He is a lifelong souths fan.
[37:59] Speaker 2: So she's more about this than when I see him
[38:02] Speaker 2: talking about the AFL. Your thoughts, does it matter? Do
[38:06] Speaker 2: you care less? I personally don't about whether or not
[38:08] Speaker 2: the Prime Minister went wandering on a field when everyone
[38:11] Speaker 2: was told don't go on the field.
[38:15] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[38:15] Speaker 9: Look, I'm not too fussed about it. You know, he
[38:18] Speaker 9: does claim to be a lifelong Souse fan. I'm sure
[38:21] Speaker 9: he's not making that up at all. So no, look
[38:23] Speaker 9: it doesn't bother me too much. What bothers me is,
[38:25] Speaker 9: as you sort of alluded to, when you have a
[38:27] Speaker 9: politician that's never seen a game in their life and
[38:29] Speaker 9: they rock up in the change room singing the song
[38:32] Speaker 9: of a footy code that don't understand the rules of
[38:34] Speaker 9: So that's what annoy I've I've got to admit I
[38:36] Speaker 9: don't understand the rules of AFL anymore because they change
[38:39] Speaker 9: him every other week.
[38:39] Speaker 8: I've got to say.
[38:40] Speaker 9: But you know, that's the story for another day. But no,
[38:43] Speaker 9: look it doesn't annoy me too much. You know, Albo
[38:45] Speaker 9: is the kind of guy that likes to probably cover
[38:48] Speaker 9: himself in the glory of others. But look, I don't
[38:50] Speaker 9: think there's any big deal here. From my vantage point.
[38:52] Speaker 1: Oh great. Not on Friday.
[38:54] Speaker 2: You know, my dear friend Dan Gnan was calling it
[38:56] Speaker 2: on Fox Sports. But mate Penny and her family were leaning.
[38:58] Speaker 1: For you were there? Did you run out on the field? Mate?
[39:01] Speaker 1: What did you think?
[39:02] Speaker 7: Well?
[39:02] Speaker 6: I actually got a text from my husband saying did
[39:04] Speaker 6: you run on the field?
[39:05] Speaker 7: And I went back, Yeah, I got arrested and he didn't.
[39:08] Speaker 6: Even respond to me, so, you know, obviously not so
[39:10] Speaker 6: worried about it, but I was.
[39:12] Speaker 7: I actually had bumped into.
[39:13] Speaker 6: Alex Rifkin, who's a very big regular contributor, and he
[39:17] Speaker 6: and I were talking and all of this madness started happening,
[39:20] Speaker 6: and I.
[39:20] Speaker 7: Said, what is going on? But when you could see
[39:23] Speaker 7: people being pulled off and.
[39:24] Speaker 6: Arrested, Now, I hope none of them have been fined.
[39:27] Speaker 6: I hope none of them have had charge is laid.
[39:30] Speaker 6: Because if the prime Minister and one of his ministers
[39:32] Speaker 6: designed it's okay. And there were absolutely big screens saying
[39:37] Speaker 6: do not go on the field.
[39:39] Speaker 7: You know, I mean, look, do I really care?
[39:41] Speaker 1: No.
[39:42] Speaker 7: I think they look like buffoons.
[39:43] Speaker 6: But if you're the leader of the country and you're
[39:45] Speaker 6: thumbing your noise to what was supposed to be, you know,
[39:49] Speaker 6: something you're not to do. You know, you lead by example,
[39:52] Speaker 6: and I think he just let everyone down. But I'd
[39:55] Speaker 6: be very interested to know if any of those guys
[39:57] Speaker 6: they arrested got.
[39:58] Speaker 2: Charged or fund good point amnesty for everyone once the
[40:02] Speaker 2: Prime minister does, how can it be to declare a crime?
[40:05] Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much, guys. We'll see you
[40:06] Speaker 2: again next week. Holly and Daniel wild all wait, quick
[40:09] Speaker 2: break back. We're more here on Paul Murray Live. In fact,
[40:11] Speaker 2: let's go to the UK.
[40:12] Speaker 1: I mate, Mark Dolan is standing by.
[40:14] Speaker 2: Lots to talk about, including the standoff between Trump and Starmer,
[40:18] Speaker 2: and there's some weird Harry and Meghan stuff more. Before
[40:22] Speaker 2: we're done, let us start off your week by going
[40:29] Speaker 2: to our dear friend Mark Dolan in the United Kingdom.
[40:31] Speaker 2: Great man, love it to see. Of course, you can
[40:33] Speaker 2: see him on Talk TV if you're over there, or
[40:35] Speaker 2: check out his YouTube channel if you are here. Now
[40:38] Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a back and forth between
[40:40] Speaker 2: Trump and Starmer. Trump saying, hey, you guys need to
[40:42] Speaker 2: start sending some warships, but didn't last week. He said
[40:45] Speaker 2: no because we've already won the war. So try and
[40:49] Speaker 2: square this circle for me.
[40:50] Speaker 10: Friend, well, a huge moment of national embarrassment for the country.
[40:54] Speaker 10: We know that our military has been hollowed out, Paul,
[40:58] Speaker 10: but the Prime Minister has made matters worse with a
[41:01] Speaker 10: diplomatic row with our number one economic and military ally,
[41:07] Speaker 10: the United States. And what the Americans wanted was so limited.
[41:11] Speaker 10: They wanted to use UK air bases to refuel. Then
[41:14] Speaker 10: Starmer comes in and says, actually, we can help, too little,
[41:18] Speaker 10: too late. Trump's not having it. As you said, don't
[41:20] Speaker 10: join a war that someone else has already won. And
[41:24] Speaker 10: Britain is an absolute bit part player in this conflict
[41:28] Speaker 10: in the Middle East now, and in fact it's Trump
[41:31] Speaker 10: that's appealing to China, France and other nations for help
[41:35] Speaker 10: to reopen the Strait of Horn moves. As you well know,
[41:39] Speaker 10: it's a very significant route because twenty percent of the
[41:43] Speaker 10: world's oil passes through it. There are big threats at
[41:47] Speaker 10: the moment because you've got we know, don't we that
[41:49] Speaker 10: the Iranian military has been diminished hugely. They've lost their
[41:52] Speaker 10: air force and they've lost their navy, all of which
[41:55] Speaker 10: is now in the bottom of the sea. But they've
[41:57] Speaker 10: still got drones, they've still got mines, and they've still
[41:59] Speaker 10: got close range missiles, and this is the next focus
[42:03] Speaker 10: of the conflict, is to get that patch of water
[42:06] Speaker 10: clear because without that, your viewers in Australia, my viewers
[42:11] Speaker 10: in the United Kingdom are going to see higher prices
[42:13] Speaker 10: at the petrol pump, and it's going to be a
[42:16] Speaker 10: situation where you take out a mortgage just to switch
[42:18] Speaker 10: on the heater at home. So that's why this matters.
[42:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, we're kind of in that phase now right.
[42:24] Speaker 2: We've got a big fight here about how much strategic
[42:27] Speaker 2: reserve we have. Of course it ends up coming back
[42:30] Speaker 2: through Singapore and Asian countries, but of course ninety percent
[42:33] Speaker 2: of that ends up coming from the Middle East, so
[42:35] Speaker 2: it's all interconnected. But I'm fascinated about the reporting that
[42:39] Speaker 2: your Trump is sort of openly saying, hey, China, you're
[42:41] Speaker 2: affected by all of this too, Do you want to
[42:43] Speaker 2: get involved? I thought China was helping her run, so
[42:46] Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure. Yes, the self interest for China
[42:49] Speaker 2: would be for everything to get moving again so the
[42:52] Speaker 2: world can keep buying things. But that would literally be
[42:55] Speaker 2: both sides of the war. We'll all learn whether that
[42:57] Speaker 2: actually happens or not.
[42:59] Speaker 10: Well, most definitely and I think it demonstrates just how
[43:03] Speaker 10: pragmatic Donald Trump is. He's no fan of China, as
[43:08] Speaker 10: we know. I mean, all he's ever done is bad
[43:09] Speaker 10: mouth what he considers to be America's number one strategic enemy.
[43:14] Speaker 10: That said, he's the master of the art of the deal, Paul,
[43:18] Speaker 10: and the essence of the art of the deal is
[43:20] Speaker 10: to do business with anyone. And I think on this occasion,
[43:24] Speaker 10: what you're seeing with this potential collaboration with China is
[43:27] Speaker 10: my enemy's enemy is my friend. China needs that oil
[43:30] Speaker 10: to massive industrial economy, and I think it's really significant.
[43:34] Speaker 10: He wants to make the straight up hor Mews open,
[43:37] Speaker 10: safe and free. And it's interesting because Trump now is
[43:42] Speaker 10: taking the same conciliatory approach not just to China, but
[43:45] Speaker 10: to Iran itself. At first we thought perhaps regime change
[43:50] Speaker 10: was the objective. But of course we were on air
[43:53] Speaker 10: on Monday when you broke the news on your show,
[43:55] Speaker 10: Paul that the new leader, the Supreme Leader of Iran,
[43:59] Speaker 10: Moshta Bacheme you have been injured in some way. We've
[44:02] Speaker 10: not seen him since. We've had a statement, but no video,
[44:04] Speaker 10: no recording of his remarks, and it seems that Trump
[44:08] Speaker 10: is willing to keep this regime in place as long
[44:11] Speaker 10: as they're willing to disarm. It seems like his main
[44:14] Speaker 10: focus is to remove the teeth from the tiger.
[44:18] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[44:18] Speaker 2: I mean, look, many different sports, all different metaphors, but
[44:21] Speaker 2: it's kind of the same thing. I think the hope
[44:23] Speaker 2: of regime change, sadly is not going to happen. I
[44:26] Speaker 2: know what wanted to happen, but I think it's about
[44:28] Speaker 2: pushing them back to their goal line, back to the
[44:30] Speaker 2: one meter line, back to the one yard line, and
[44:34] Speaker 2: essentially push back their capacity to hurt anyone. Forget the nukes,
[44:38] Speaker 2: their capacity to hurt anyone. But given the drones, the
[44:42] Speaker 2: fact that they cost only about twenty grand to be made,
[44:44] Speaker 2: how fast they can be made, your ability to get
[44:47] Speaker 2: back up to a place to hurt is faster than ever.
[44:50] Speaker 2: So we'll all see what happens together. Oh, Harry and Megan,
[44:53] Speaker 2: let's go there all right. So there is a brand
[44:56] Speaker 2: new book which is all in and around Megan markle able.
[45:00] Speaker 1: To brainwash Harry. Do you buy it? Do you believe it?
[45:03] Speaker 1: Or is it just a way to sell some paperbacks?
[45:08] Speaker 10: Well, listen, Tom Bauer is one of the most feared
[45:11] Speaker 10: biographers in the world, and he's gone after Richard Branson,
[45:15] Speaker 10: Tony Blair, and of course Meghan Markel. None of those
[45:19] Speaker 10: people have successfully sued him, because, like you, Paul, he's
[45:22] Speaker 10: an elite level journalist who checks his facts. And don't
[45:25] Speaker 10: forget that these publishing companies are not stupid. They're not
[45:28] Speaker 10: going to publish things that aren't true because they know
[45:30] Speaker 10: they'll wind up in court. So he's a fearsome figure.
[45:33] Speaker 10: His book is called Betrayal. It contains some really juicy allegations,
[45:38] Speaker 10: including claims that Queen Camilla King Charles, his wife, confided
[45:42] Speaker 10: to a friend Harry's been brainwashed by Megan, who could disagree.
[45:47] Speaker 10: Since they got married, he suddenly hates his country, hates
[45:50] Speaker 10: his family, hates being a royal, and goes off for
[45:53] Speaker 10: a very boring life in California. This is not a marriage, Paul,
[45:56] Speaker 10: this is a hostage situation. The other interesting a couple
[46:00] Speaker 10: of lines. Harry, apparently, reportedly, according to the book, is
[46:04] Speaker 10: worried he'll be banished from royal circles when William becomes king.
[46:09] Speaker 1: Well that is almost certainly true.
[46:10] Speaker 10: He'll probably lose his hrh title and his princes title.
[46:15] Speaker 10: Also allegations of a row between Meghan and William. With
[46:19] Speaker 10: Meghan back in the day when she was in the
[46:21] Speaker 10: Royal family, she had a fight with William reportedly and
[46:24] Speaker 10: she said, William, get your finger out of my face.
[46:27] Speaker 10: It seems like William had the measure of this woman
[46:29] Speaker 10: long before the rest of us.
[46:31] Speaker 2: Now, certainly we're going to have to deal with the
[46:32] Speaker 2: fact that she's headed here on her tickets are like
[46:35] Speaker 2: three grand or whatever, and they'll all be so much coverage.
[46:38] Speaker 2: But apparently Australia holds a special place in the handler's
[46:43] Speaker 2: mind because somehow they think Australia has been kinder to
[46:47] Speaker 2: the formers then anywhere else.
[46:49] Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Australia's not massive fans.
[46:52] Speaker 10: Well, no, can I just tell you that Australia has
[46:57] Speaker 10: tackled illegal immigration very successfully and I think give and
[47:00] Speaker 10: the fact that Harry and Meghan are on their way,
[47:02] Speaker 10: I think it's time to reactivate operations sovereign Borders, Paul
[47:08] Speaker 10: air strikes, get the boats out, because the bottom line is,
[47:11] Speaker 10: I mean, I can't speak for your viewers, but I
[47:14] Speaker 10: will tell you that lots of Australian viewers of the
[47:16] Speaker 10: Mark Dolan Show don't want to see Harry and Meghan.
[47:19] Speaker 10: The reason why it went down well in twenty eighteen, Paul,
[47:22] Speaker 10: is because the Australian public didn't know Meghan Markel very well.
[47:25] Speaker 10: Well they know her now and what do they know her?
[47:28] Speaker 1: To be? A gold digging grifter. I love you. Thank
[47:32] Speaker 1: you for all those headlights. OW YouTube team will have
[47:34] Speaker 1: great fun with that. Thank you. Marke.
[47:36] Speaker 2: Enjoy yourself much, Paul, have a great way. God is
[47:38] Speaker 2: the awesome Mark Dolan. You're by the Marke Dolan Show.
[47:40] Speaker 2: Talk to you a head also on YouTube now. Oscars
[47:43] Speaker 2: are up tomorrow. My pick's next.
[47:50] Speaker 1: Now. Like you, I love my movies, Lama.
[47:53] Speaker 2: Movies and despite the fact that you it's full of
[47:55] Speaker 2: wokeners and your lefty politics. I kind of watch the
[47:58] Speaker 2: Oscars every year for as long as I can remember,
[48:00] Speaker 2: and I'm really looking forward to again. Cannan and O'Brien
[48:03] Speaker 2: getting up there being the host. He says he's not
[48:05] Speaker 2: going to talk about Trump, but someone somewhere will. But whatever,
[48:08] Speaker 2: let's talk about the movies. They've actually been great this year.
[48:11] Speaker 2: Have you seen the film One Battle after Another? This
[48:14] Speaker 2: is an awesome, awesome film right. It's made by the
[48:16] Speaker 2: guy called Paul Thomas Anderson. He made Boogie Knights a
[48:19] Speaker 2: few years ago. The other one that's great is Sinners.
[48:22] Speaker 2: This is the one from the guy who made the
[48:23] Speaker 2: Black Panther movies. I think a Creed movie as well.
[48:27] Speaker 2: Two great films.
[48:28] Speaker 1: Right.
[48:30] Speaker 2: I won't explain the plots to you because I don't
[48:31] Speaker 2: want to spoil anything for you. But just like everything else,
[48:34] Speaker 2: just like politics, there are prediction scites about who's going
[48:37] Speaker 2: to win and what. There's a website called gold Derby
[48:39] Speaker 2: and they get together like one hundred different experts and
[48:42] Speaker 2: they say one battle after another will win Best Picture,
[48:44] Speaker 2: Best Director, that the bloke from Sinners will win Best Actor,
[48:47] Speaker 2: the actress from Hamnet will win Best Actress. Sean Penn,
[48:50] Speaker 2: who's in One Battle after Another, will win Supporting Actor,
[48:53] Speaker 2: and Amy Madigan, who's in the horror film called Weapons,
[48:56] Speaker 2: will win. Now I'm not saying who's going to win,
[48:59] Speaker 2: but if I could hand out the golden trophies, I agree,
[49:01] Speaker 2: one Battle after another for Picture for director Ethan Hawke
[49:05] Speaker 2: in a film called Blue Moon is Fantastic, Go and
[49:08] Speaker 2: find it. The Aussie rose Burnt of course Shawn pen fine,
[49:11] Speaker 2: but his co star Tiana Taylor.
[49:14] Speaker 1: Would also be a winner.
[49:15] Speaker 2: Tomorrow enjoy, we'll review it all tomorrow night. Here's the
[49:17] Speaker 2: John Howard documentary

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