# Paul Murray Live: Ask Me Anything with Angus Taylor

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 18 May 2026, 49 min.

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Just days after delivering the Budget Reply, Opposition leader Angus Taylor joins Paul Murray for a special event where viewers’ questions take centre stage, and no topic is off limits. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: This is a special edition of Paul Murray Live Ask
[0:05] Speaker 1: Me Anything with Anger's Taylor.
[0:08] Speaker 2: Hello, mate, come on into the mank because tonight the
[0:11] Speaker 2: alternative Prime Minister is here.
[0:12] Speaker 3: Angus Taylor.
[0:13] Speaker 1: Love you to meet you, love you to see you.
[0:14] Speaker 1: You're glad to see you. Thank you, love you to
[0:16] Speaker 1: have you here.
[0:17] Speaker 2: The whole point of tonight is we're going to ask
[0:19] Speaker 2: you whatever we want now. Of course these questions will
[0:22] Speaker 2: come from all the way around the country.
[0:25] Speaker 3: That's the joy of all of this.
[0:26] Speaker 2: I'll add a couple as we go, but this is
[0:28] Speaker 2: obviously an opportunity not just to ask you a couple
[0:31] Speaker 2: of questions about politics and policy sometimes the odd personal
[0:35] Speaker 2: that will be in there. But the whole point of
[0:37] Speaker 2: asking me anything is guess what ask me anything?
[0:39] Speaker 4: All right?
[0:39] Speaker 1: Ready to go, Ready to go?
[0:41] Speaker 3: For all right, let's go. All right.
[0:42] Speaker 2: Stephen is our first person who's got a question from
[0:45] Speaker 2: Doncaster East in Victoria.
[0:47] Speaker 3: Get a Stephen, what's your question for angers?
[0:50] Speaker 5: Good eaving Paul and hello mister Taylor. Hopefully being the
[0:54] Speaker 5: first question tonight isn't going to be too tricky. So
[0:57] Speaker 5: my question is what does the Liberal Party stand for
[1:00] Speaker 5: your leadership that it didn't under Susan Lee or Peter Dubman.
[1:05] Speaker 1: Well, thanks for the question, Steven, And the starting point
[1:08] Speaker 1: for me is that my job and our job is
[1:11] Speaker 1: to restore Australians standard of living and protect our way
[1:14] Speaker 1: of life, which both of which have been under threat
[1:17] Speaker 1: in recent years. And in practice that means axing Labour's
[1:21] Speaker 1: toxic taxes. And I'm sure we're going to talk about
[1:24] Speaker 1: more about those toxic taxes, but we've got to restore
[1:28] Speaker 1: reward for effort in this country. We've got to end
[1:32] Speaker 1: the energy madness, scrapnet zero, bring mass migration to an end,
[1:37] Speaker 1: and in particular focus on getting young Australians into a home.
[1:42] Speaker 1: There's just been too much demand for housing in this
[1:44] Speaker 1: country and we've got to get the balance right and
[1:47] Speaker 1: we've got to put Australians first. And that means our
[1:50] Speaker 1: welfare system, which is very generous, should be for Australian citizens,
[1:55] Speaker 1: as well as other programs like the Home Deposit Scheme
[1:58] Speaker 1: which has been for many people beyond citizens non citizens,
[2:03] Speaker 1: they should be restricted to citizens. So a focus on
[2:07] Speaker 1: getting back to the things that we believe in as liberals,
[2:10] Speaker 1: which is our standard of living, in our way of life,
[2:13] Speaker 1: but also.
[2:13] Speaker 3: After the farwerh By election.
[2:15] Speaker 2: I do appreciate the question, Stephen, thank you when you
[2:17] Speaker 2: talked about a party of convenience versus a party of conviction.
[2:21] Speaker 3: What does that actually mean in practice?
[2:24] Speaker 2: And how would people who may well have voted a
[2:27] Speaker 2: coalition of the last election but are somewhere else in
[2:29] Speaker 2: the polls right now, what do they see that is
[2:32] Speaker 2: the example of that?
[2:34] Speaker 1: Well, the example is we're taking the fight up to
[2:36] Speaker 1: a rotten labor government. And those of your viewers who
[2:39] Speaker 1: saw what I had to say on Thursday night have
[2:42] Speaker 1: seen or heard some of it. Since we'll see that
[2:45] Speaker 1: we're taking the fight up to labor. Now, We're not
[2:47] Speaker 1: going to hold back. We're going to take the fight
[2:49] Speaker 1: up to them on their rotten taxes, taxes on small business,
[2:53] Speaker 1: on homes, on savings and investment, on income. They're constantly
[3:00] Speaker 1: rising income taxes, and that's why we laid out the
[3:03] Speaker 1: tax back guarantee. But also getting serious and being honest
[3:06] Speaker 1: about migration. I mean, I think there's not been enough
[3:09] Speaker 1: candor and enough honesty about this conversation. The numbers just
[3:13] Speaker 1: got too high.
[3:14] Speaker 2: So inevitably when you got into and to be honest,
[3:17] Speaker 2: I think most people were shocked when you stood up
[3:20] Speaker 2: and talked about that people who are not Australian citizens
[3:23] Speaker 2: are getting the advantages of Australian citizenship in terms of
[3:27] Speaker 2: support from the government in lots of different ways. They
[3:30] Speaker 2: weren't shocked because you said it. They were shocked because
[3:32] Speaker 2: they didn't think that was Actually.
[3:33] Speaker 1: I didn't know the case when this is. I have
[3:36] Speaker 1: to tell you that when I learned that, I was surprised.
[3:41] Speaker 1: I thought, surely not. And the truth is that we
[3:45] Speaker 1: have seventeen different welfare programs seventeen including all the ones
[3:50] Speaker 1: you'd know, family Tax Benefit and Job Seeker and so on,
[3:55] Speaker 1: that are available to non citizens now, some of which
[3:58] Speaker 1: you can get straight away, Wow, straight away, but also
[4:02] Speaker 1: including the Home deposits scheme well, but.
[4:04] Speaker 2: Also vital to point out, and I spent some time
[4:06] Speaker 2: talking about this last night.
[4:08] Speaker 3: Were straight away.
[4:08] Speaker 2: Clara O'Neil and the rest of them are out there
[4:10] Speaker 2: on social media saying to people who aren't citizens yet
[4:14] Speaker 2: saying spread this as far as you can. This is
[4:16] Speaker 2: what they're planning to do. They're taking this away from you.
[4:18] Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you for the four hundredth time,
[4:20] Speaker 2: but it's important anyone currently in Australia who is not
[4:24] Speaker 2: a citizen, this will not apply to it's from day
[4:28] Speaker 2: one of a government presumably based off expectations here twenty
[4:32] Speaker 2: twenty eight and beyond. So anyone in Australia who's not
[4:35] Speaker 2: a citizen yet, none of this is going to apply exactly.
[4:38] Speaker 1: So it's grandfathered. That's the kind of technical term, but
[4:41] Speaker 1: it's you know, and look, I think this is incredibly reasonable.
[4:46] Speaker 1: If someone commits to the country by becoming a citizen,
[4:51] Speaker 1: we will commit to them. And you know, we're a
[4:53] Speaker 1: great immigrant nation. As you know, we've had incredible success
[4:57] Speaker 1: with immigration over a long period of time. But it's
[5:01] Speaker 1: because we've made sure we've got it right and it
[5:04] Speaker 1: hasn't been right in recent years and that has the change.
[5:06] Speaker 3: Well, it isn't about me asking the questions.
[5:08] Speaker 2: So let's get to Mitchell in the big screen right
[5:10] Speaker 2: now with his question.
[5:11] Speaker 1: For trying to reduce an immigration.
[5:14] Speaker 6: However, saying the cat will equate to the number of
[5:17] Speaker 6: homes built isn't enough. How will you judge the housing
[5:20] Speaker 6: supply needed for Australians and the housing supply available for immigrants?
[5:25] Speaker 6: And how many immigrants are you going to let in
[5:27] Speaker 6: per house being built.
[5:29] Speaker 1: So they're great questions, Mitchell, and the starting point on
[5:33] Speaker 1: this one is that you cannot let people into the
[5:37] Speaker 1: country if you don't have the houses for them. And
[5:41] Speaker 1: this is where labor has got it completely and utterly wrong.
[5:46] Speaker 1: When we had five hundred and fifty thousand people coming
[5:50] Speaker 1: in a single year and less than two hundred thousand
[5:55] Speaker 1: houses being built, the numbers just don't stack up. It
[5:59] Speaker 1: just don't. So the key to this is just don't
[6:03] Speaker 1: let that number in.
[6:04] Speaker 4: Now.
[6:04] Speaker 1: What we're proposing is that each year the Housing Minister
[6:09] Speaker 1: would stand up and say we've had so many houses built.
[6:12] Speaker 1: Let's say it's two hundred thousand or one hundred and
[6:14] Speaker 1: fifty thousand, whatever the number is, and that means we
[6:18] Speaker 1: can accommodate so many additional people. Some of those will
[6:23] Speaker 1: be people that are born here in Australia, and so
[6:26] Speaker 1: the only number that can come in is those who
[6:28] Speaker 1: can be housed. It's as simple as that. If we
[6:32] Speaker 1: get this right, we need to play catch up, by
[6:34] Speaker 1: the way, because there's been too many people coming for
[6:37] Speaker 1: the houses that have been built. And what this will
[6:40] Speaker 1: mean is we'll get the balance right between supply and demand.
[6:43] Speaker 1: It's pretty simple. When you get that right, becomes affordable
[6:47] Speaker 1: and that's the focus here. The key here is young
[6:50] Speaker 1: Australians who are not getting the opportunity to own a home.
[6:55] Speaker 1: We want to change that and we need to change
[6:57] Speaker 1: that fast because people are losing hope fast.
[7:00] Speaker 2: And also worth noting here too, there's not a scenario
[7:02] Speaker 2: where there's a zero because Australia last year built one
[7:06] Speaker 2: hundred and sixty thousand homes, all right, and again the
[7:10] Speaker 2: priority is on skilled migration. Yes, there are other ways
[7:15] Speaker 2: into the country, but one hundred and sixty thousand. When
[7:18] Speaker 2: those numbers are tighter, it means the focus on skills
[7:22] Speaker 2: as opposed to collection of other things becomes even clearer.
[7:25] Speaker 2: All right, let's keep going here. Justin has got a
[7:27] Speaker 2: question for you, and I think it is about the
[7:29] Speaker 2: Orange Man in the United States.
[7:31] Speaker 7: Justin your question, Hey Angers, Hey Paul. My question is this,
[7:37] Speaker 7: at the last election, we've seen the Coalition distance themselves
[7:40] Speaker 7: from anything that was mentioning MAGA or referencing Donald Trump. Now,
[7:44] Speaker 7: with the conservative wins around the world picking up, do
[7:47] Speaker 7: you think that was a mistake or the right call.
[7:51] Speaker 1: Thanks for your question, Justin. It's a good question and
[7:53] Speaker 1: important question. Like I firmly believe that Australia has to
[7:57] Speaker 1: have a very strong relationship with the UN States, and
[8:01] Speaker 1: we have to have respect for similar parties to ours,
[8:05] Speaker 1: whether it's the Republicans in the United States or the
[8:10] Speaker 1: Tories in the UK, and work with them as much
[8:13] Speaker 1: as we possibly can. But most importantly, we have to
[8:16] Speaker 1: have a strong relationship with the United States. And this
[8:18] Speaker 1: is important for a couple of reasons. Number one, we
[8:22] Speaker 1: need to have a good trade relationship with them, we
[8:25] Speaker 1: get benefits from that. But the second, and I think
[8:29] Speaker 1: it's the more important reason, is in a dangerous world,
[8:33] Speaker 1: the most dangerous we've seen since nineteen forty five, the
[8:37] Speaker 1: US relationship is more important than ever. They are our friends.
[8:42] Speaker 1: We need to work with them together to make sure
[8:45] Speaker 1: our part of the world is safe and there are
[8:47] Speaker 1: real risks in our part of the world. So distancing
[8:50] Speaker 1: ourselves from any US administration for that matter, or any
[8:54] Speaker 1: US president, I think is a mistake and I certainly
[8:56] Speaker 1: you won't see me doing it.
[8:58] Speaker 2: Just hope you having a good night. Import mccroreloan with
[9:00] Speaker 2: one else is watching this right now. In the mid
[9:01] Speaker 2: North Coast of New South Wales, just a bit further
[9:03] Speaker 2: to this question, judging further as to what Justin was saying, right,
[9:07] Speaker 2: which is reality is a lot of people watching this show,
[9:10] Speaker 2: they'll be all in on Trump, right, They'll bleed red,
[9:12] Speaker 2: maga all the rest of it. Right, But every opinion
[9:14] Speaker 2: poll shows us that Australians generally do not have a
[9:17] Speaker 2: positive view of the politics the presentation of the president.
[9:22] Speaker 2: This seems to be the devil and the deep blue sea,
[9:24] Speaker 2: the rock and the heart place right, which is there
[9:26] Speaker 2: is a certain band of conservative people who want all in,
[9:30] Speaker 2: let's go there, use the slogans, get the red hat,
[9:33] Speaker 2: all the rest of it. But the reality is our
[9:36] Speaker 2: politics is different. We saw, I think unfairly in the
[9:41] Speaker 2: last election that if you dared say make Australia great,
[9:44] Speaker 2: it became well see there's secretly Trump on the inside.
[9:47] Speaker 2: So to that point, is there a ban on certain
[9:51] Speaker 2: words that your people are allowed to talk about or
[9:53] Speaker 2: what are you saying?
[9:54] Speaker 1: I think all this becomes a nonsense. So I mean,
[9:56] Speaker 1: we want to have a good relationship with the United
[9:58] Speaker 1: States and that's the key for me, or from Australia's perspective,
[10:02] Speaker 1: getting beyond all the nonsense about words. What matters is
[10:06] Speaker 1: that we have that strong relationship. And I tell you
[10:09] Speaker 1: what I worry about our region and the risks that
[10:12] Speaker 1: we face. That's why I'm a strong believer that August
[10:16] Speaker 1: the nuclear submarines really matters. That's why I'm a strong
[10:19] Speaker 1: believer that we've got to strengthen that relationship. I was
[10:22] Speaker 1: over in the US when I was shadowed Defense Minister
[10:26] Speaker 1: late last year and trying to strengthen that relationship, and
[10:29] Speaker 1: we must continue to do that.
[10:31] Speaker 2: Obviously, there is a whole series of things that are
[10:34] Speaker 2: secret and not known in the world, So I don't
[10:36] Speaker 2: know if you can even answer this question when you
[10:38] Speaker 2: were the shadow Defense Minister. Is there anything about Australia's
[10:41] Speaker 2: defense that should frighten us that there are holes?
[10:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a lot that should frighten us.
[10:46] Speaker 1: We're underfunding it. We're underfunding our war fighters, we're underfunding
[10:50] Speaker 1: our capabilities. I mean, if we're going to have these
[10:53] Speaker 1: nuclear subs and everything else we need, the drones, the
[10:56] Speaker 1: anti missile technologies and capabilit we have to invest more.
[11:02] Speaker 1: And this is one area. Generally, I am someone who
[11:05] Speaker 1: believes in less government spending, but this is one area
[11:10] Speaker 1: where we are underfunding, and the result is our war
[11:12] Speaker 1: fighters are not getting the support and the equipment they need.
[11:16] Speaker 3: The drones is particularly important.
[11:17] Speaker 2: All right, let's get to Brett, who's in Aubury right now.
[11:20] Speaker 2: He joins us live on the line. How are you, mate?
[11:23] Speaker 2: Nice and cold for you? I'm s all outside. What's
[11:25] Speaker 2: your question here for Angus?
[11:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, Gay angers. I keep hearing you say.
[11:29] Speaker 6: That we needed to get rid of net zero?
[11:32] Speaker 8: Mate, will you form we withdraw from the Paris Agreement?
[11:36] Speaker 1: Thanks Brett, Thanks Brett, Thanks for the question. Look, we
[11:39] Speaker 1: will get rid of we will get rid of net zero.
[11:41] Speaker 1: We're not proposing to get out of the Paris Agreement because, frankly,
[11:45] Speaker 1: it's not going to change anything we do. And whilst
[11:51] Speaker 1: I'm not a big believer in being well, I am
[11:55] Speaker 1: not a big believer and being dictated to by any
[11:57] Speaker 1: international organization. Frankly, our focus is on getting rid of
[12:02] Speaker 1: the zero, getting energy affordable again, and getting abundance in energy.
[12:08] Speaker 1: I mean that focus here has got to be having
[12:10] Speaker 1: more of everything in our energy grid, more gas, make
[12:13] Speaker 1: use of the coal we've got in this country under
[12:15] Speaker 1: the ground. I think we need to have nuclear in
[12:19] Speaker 1: the mix. And I think if people want to put
[12:21] Speaker 1: household solar on their rooves, they should go for it.
[12:24] Speaker 1: And that is the answer on energy. When I was
[12:27] Speaker 1: Energy Minister, we got prices down by ten percent. Since
[12:31] Speaker 1: Chris Bowen's been Energy Minister, they've gone up by forty percent.
[12:35] Speaker 1: And that's because I took a pragmatic approach to this,
[12:37] Speaker 1: and that is exactly what we will do on getting
[12:40] Speaker 1: into government.
[12:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, Brett, I want to ask you a question as
[12:44] Speaker 2: a second way of asking the question here to mister Taylor.
[12:48] Speaker 2: And we had this discussion on the show last night
[12:49] Speaker 2: with Lee Hanson saying from one nation, yep, pull out
[12:52] Speaker 2: of Paris. Matt Canavan, of course, from the Nazi explaining
[12:55] Speaker 2: why that wasn't what they wanted to do. Why would
[12:58] Speaker 2: you want the Paris Agreement and trash? What is it
[13:01] Speaker 2: about that agreement that is so important for you? I
[13:06] Speaker 2: just think that actions speak louder than words, Paul May,
[13:12] Speaker 2: if you're prepared to get.
[13:13] Speaker 9: Rid of that zero, why not get rid of the agreement?
[13:16] Speaker 3: All right, good on your breat appreciate it. Thank you.
[13:19] Speaker 2: We've got another question here. This one is coming from Monique.
[13:22] Speaker 2: She's in beautiful tweetheads. Go and see twin towns for me.
[13:25] Speaker 3: Mate. Here she is her question, Monique.
[13:29] Speaker 10: Mister Taylor, in your budget reply this week, the Coalition
[13:33] Speaker 10: finally committed to lifting the nuclear band and maintaining our
[13:36] Speaker 10: baseline collpaler grid. But Pauline Hanson immediately called you out,
[13:40] Speaker 10: claiming your speech was just repleat with one nation policies
[13:43] Speaker 10: because you're bleeding conservative votes. As a lifelong Conservative who's
[13:47] Speaker 10: currently hesitating voting for you, why should we trust that
[13:51] Speaker 10: the Coalition is genuinely committed to a nuclear and call
[13:54] Speaker 10: back future rather than just copying one nation to survive
[13:58] Speaker 10: the next election.
[14:00] Speaker 3: Nice, I like a kid.
[14:01] Speaker 1: Well now, and it's a good question, an important question, Monique,
[14:04] Speaker 1: and I thank you for the question. Look, my background
[14:08] Speaker 1: is believing that we should have every bit of energy
[14:11] Speaker 1: in our system we can have. I've long believed that.
[14:13] Speaker 1: I believed it before politics. I worked in the energy
[14:16] Speaker 1: sector before politics, and including the coal sector, including the
[14:21] Speaker 1: uranium sector, and what I learned is you've got to
[14:24] Speaker 1: have all of it. And that is absolutely what I
[14:28] Speaker 1: believe in, you know, and I was able to get
[14:31] Speaker 1: I was able to get prices down when I was
[14:34] Speaker 1: Energy Minister. But I was able to do it by
[14:36] Speaker 1: saying we need to have the full mix. I absolutely
[14:40] Speaker 1: believe that we've got to have our coal fire generators
[14:43] Speaker 1: running as hard as we possibly can if we're going
[14:45] Speaker 1: to get those prices down. Chris Bowen hates our coal
[14:49] Speaker 1: fire generators. He hates gas, and that's why you've seen
[14:52] Speaker 1: prices go up by forty percent. So look, it's a
[14:55] Speaker 1: commitment based on my long history in the energy sector,
[14:59] Speaker 1: and it is a commitment I am absolutely determined to hold.
[15:03] Speaker 2: So what about again, And there's going to be a
[15:05] Speaker 2: couple of versions of this, no doubt tonight, which is
[15:07] Speaker 2: this idea of the belief that, well, the Liberals wouldn't
[15:10] Speaker 2: have possibly said any of the things that you've been
[15:12] Speaker 2: saying unless what's been happening when it comes.
[15:14] Speaker 1: So let me respond to that part of the question,
[15:16] Speaker 1: which is important part of the question, Paul. Look, we
[15:20] Speaker 1: did and I laid out in that budget and reply
[15:23] Speaker 1: what I think is right for the country. And some
[15:27] Speaker 1: of it may be things that Paul in and one
[15:30] Speaker 1: nation likes, some of it I'm sure is not. I
[15:33] Speaker 1: mean the citizenship position, for instance, that wel we should
[15:36] Speaker 1: only go to citizens We're the only party who have
[15:39] Speaker 1: that position. We're the only one, and I'm sure there's
[15:42] Speaker 1: other differences, but my focus every day is on what
[15:46] Speaker 1: is right, frustratings, and I know right now out there
[15:48] Speaker 1: there's enormous frustration. There's an enormous sense that reward for
[15:53] Speaker 1: effort has gone in this country. People are losing hope,
[15:55] Speaker 1: small businesses are losing hope. And my focus is on
[15:59] Speaker 1: changing that.
[16:00] Speaker 2: And again just to energy and climate change as an issue. Right,
[16:05] Speaker 2: My follow up on all of this is, I think
[16:07] Speaker 2: it's obvious. Now this may annoy one or two people watching,
[16:10] Speaker 2: but here's the truth, right, is that we've had multiple
[16:13] Speaker 2: elections where the government on one side, the teels on another,
[16:17] Speaker 2: essentially are going to try to run or run on
[16:19] Speaker 2: a message of the opposition, the Liberals, the nets, they
[16:22] Speaker 2: don't believe climate change exists. It's not a thing. Let's
[16:25] Speaker 2: be really straight up here, right. While the targets are
[16:28] Speaker 2: something to negotiate, while the method of our power is
[16:31] Speaker 2: something to negotiate, how important is it to push back
[16:37] Speaker 2: on such perceptions that it's very clear that yes, you've
[16:42] Speaker 2: got eight billion people on the planet and something is happening.
[16:46] Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the starting point for me is just
[16:48] Speaker 1: Energy's got to be affordable. It doesn't matter what else
[16:51] Speaker 1: you do. If it's not affordable, people will say that's
[16:55] Speaker 1: not good enough. Yes, And you know, I learned that
[16:57] Speaker 1: as an energy minister, the most important thing you do
[17:00] Speaker 1: is get prices to affordability. And that's why everything I
[17:05] Speaker 1: did in my time has Energy Minister was trying to
[17:07] Speaker 1: get to get prices down, including getting the coal and
[17:13] Speaker 1: gas fire generators to run as hard as they possibly could, Paul.
[17:16] Speaker 1: And so that's the starting point. Now, it so happens
[17:18] Speaker 1: that when I was Energy minister, not only did prices
[17:20] Speaker 1: go down by ten percent, so did.
[17:22] Speaker 3: Emissions they added on me.
[17:24] Speaker 1: And you know, if you run things efficiently, that's what happens.
[17:28] Speaker 1: I mean, in America under Trump, emissions came down. But
[17:32] Speaker 1: I tell you who has not been able to bring
[17:34] Speaker 1: emissions down in any material way. Chris Balen. Yes, correct,
[17:39] Speaker 1: because he stuffs it up every time. Correct, He stuffs
[17:43] Speaker 1: it up every single time. So not only you got
[17:45] Speaker 1: prices forty percent up, he hasn't even achieved his own
[17:49] Speaker 1: objective of bringing emissions down.
[17:51] Speaker 3: Good point.
[17:51] Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Campbelltown and that's where Lucas
[17:55] Speaker 2: is Helo Lucas good.
[17:57] Speaker 8: Even to you, Paul, good eating to missus tailor. Are
[17:59] Speaker 8: really appreciate you both for your times. My question is,
[18:03] Speaker 8: given the unprecedented rise of Labor and the Greens among
[18:06] Speaker 8: my generation eighteen to twenty five year olds, with the
[18:09] Speaker 8: Coalition recording the law of support among this demographic in
[18:12] Speaker 8: the twenty twenty five election, how does the Coalition aim
[18:15] Speaker 8: to regain and regalvanize younger voters who have lost faith
[18:19] Speaker 8: in liberal values.
[18:21] Speaker 3: Good Man, it's a great question, Lucas.
[18:23] Speaker 1: Good to see you from Campbelltown, which is very close
[18:25] Speaker 1: to my neck of the woods, and thank you for
[18:28] Speaker 1: the question. Look, it's a great question, and the important
[18:31] Speaker 1: point here is that by creating reward for a restoring
[18:36] Speaker 1: reward for hard work, getting rid of axing Labour's rotten
[18:41] Speaker 1: taxes on capital gains, on housing, on savings on small businesses,
[18:46] Speaker 1: what we're signaling to younger people is if you work hard,
[18:49] Speaker 1: you can get ahead. And this is something that's been
[18:52] Speaker 1: absolutely lost under labor and for me and my kids,
[18:56] Speaker 1: I hear this all the time. That is the most
[18:59] Speaker 1: important thing we can do. If young Australians give up
[19:03] Speaker 1: on the possibility of working hard and getting ahead, we
[19:05] Speaker 1: are not the country I grew up in. The second
[19:08] Speaker 1: thing I would say is central to that is being
[19:11] Speaker 1: able over time to buy a fan, buy a house
[19:16] Speaker 1: and build a family, grow a family. And if people
[19:21] Speaker 1: give up on that, Lucas, then again it's not the Australia.
[19:25] Speaker 1: I know. That's why we've got to get immigration down
[19:29] Speaker 1: so that we have enough houses for the people who
[19:32] Speaker 1: come to this country. But most importantly we've got enough
[19:35] Speaker 1: houses for the people who are in this country. And
[19:38] Speaker 1: so those two things housing and a family, alongside reward
[19:43] Speaker 1: for hard work for me what we can offer younger
[19:46] Speaker 1: Australians and I think they're important things for younger Australians.
[19:49] Speaker 1: You'll be the judge obviously, but thank you for the question.
[19:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, Lucas, I want to ask you a follow up here,
[19:53] Speaker 2: right sort of upping the riars and lifting the TikTok
[19:57] Speaker 2: dancing game is the sort of stuff that you would
[20:01] Speaker 2: like to see Angus Taylor and his side of politics
[20:05] Speaker 2: do to reach out to your mates.
[20:10] Speaker 8: Great question, Paul, I would say the biggest thing is
[20:13] Speaker 8: probably in university campuses. I mean, it would be tough
[20:17] Speaker 8: for me to go to uniunversity and not find a
[20:20] Speaker 8: socialist alternative or a pro Palestine poster, but it would
[20:25] Speaker 8: be very tough for me as well to find the
[20:28] Speaker 8: liberals there or any conservative voices. But to give mister
[20:32] Speaker 8: Taylor credit, I would say that it would also be
[20:36] Speaker 8: because the left's ability to exploit young voters. I mean,
[20:40] Speaker 8: we have sitting senators for Senator Ferruki who advocated for
[20:44] Speaker 8: high school students to go out and protest ditching class.
[20:47] Speaker 8: So I do give the coalition credit. However, I don't
[20:51] Speaker 8: think that that should be used as a scapegoat for
[20:55] Speaker 8: their inability to have the this is in university campuses especially.
[21:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, well done, Lucas, because again this is the thing
[21:05] Speaker 2: Angus where you know the moment when you started to
[21:08] Speaker 2: connect with politics whenever that was in your life, right
[21:10] Speaker 2: compared to Lucas is obviously watching shows like this a
[21:14] Speaker 2: great question, thought about it all the rest of it.
[21:17] Speaker 2: It seems that it's different how people engage these days.
[21:22] Speaker 2: How should the right up its game to get Lucas
[21:25] Speaker 2: and his mates on.
[21:26] Speaker 1: So that part of it is getting the policy and
[21:29] Speaker 1: the messages right, which I was just talking about with
[21:31] Speaker 1: housing and families and reward for hard work. But part
[21:34] Speaker 1: of it is the way we communicate, and I know
[21:37] Speaker 1: the Liberal Party has to get better at this. We
[21:40] Speaker 1: have to communicate where people engage with politics, which increasingly
[21:45] Speaker 1: is on your phone. That's where it is. And Yep,
[21:49] Speaker 1: these shows are important, Paul, I get it. You've got
[21:52] Speaker 1: a wonderful audience.
[21:53] Speaker 3: I get it, I get it, I get it.
[21:55] Speaker 1: But the phone, the phone is where a lot of
[21:57] Speaker 1: the action is now, particularly for younger and so we
[22:02] Speaker 1: are starting to put in that big effort to change
[22:04] Speaker 1: the way we communicate people, particularly on their fonts.
[22:07] Speaker 2: I've got one more question before we'll take a break here.
[22:10] Speaker 2: This is from Rema who is in Kellyville and sent
[22:15] Speaker 2: us this particular question right Kellyville in northwestern Sydney. What
[22:19] Speaker 2: is the coalition strategy to vet arrivals from radicalized regions.
[22:24] Speaker 2: I'm looking for a reason to come back to the
[22:25] Speaker 2: Liberal Party, but I need to see a firm stance
[22:28] Speaker 2: on this issue.
[22:31] Speaker 1: What a great question, because there is no doubt that
[22:36] Speaker 1: not only have the numbers been too high when it
[22:39] Speaker 1: comes to migration, the standards have been too low and
[22:42] Speaker 1: there hasn't been enough screening of people coming to the
[22:45] Speaker 1: country to make sure that they share our values. They
[22:50] Speaker 1: must share our value and the most basic of values.
[22:53] Speaker 1: If people don't believe in our democracy, they shouldn't be
[22:57] Speaker 1: coming to our country. If people don't believe in our
[23:00] Speaker 1: our system of law, they shouldn't be coming to our country.
[23:03] Speaker 1: If people don't believe in our basic freedoms, they shouldn't
[23:05] Speaker 1: be coming to our country. Now, what we're proposing is
[23:09] Speaker 1: to have a task force or a team from across
[23:13] Speaker 1: a range of the agencies with all the skills we need,
[23:15] Speaker 1: the intelligent skills, the law enforcement skills, the digital skills
[23:20] Speaker 1: to be able to screen people coming to Australia to
[23:23] Speaker 1: make sure they do share those values. This will be
[23:27] Speaker 1: a top priority of a coalition government and a task
[23:30] Speaker 1: force we will put in place properly funded from day one.
[23:33] Speaker 2: All right, thank you, all right, We're going to take
[23:35] Speaker 2: a quick break plenty more. I love this though you
[23:37] Speaker 2: love this, I mean obviously, an interview without interruptions, questions
[23:40] Speaker 2: asked by the people watching.
[23:42] Speaker 3: Unbelievable, right, it keeps going for the rest of the hour.
[23:45] Speaker 2: More with Angus Taylor in a moment here in the
[23:47] Speaker 2: man Cave here on Monday night on scot News Mornings.
[23:54] Speaker 2: Thanks again for watching. If you want to see me
[23:56] Speaker 2: an email at any time, Paul Scotnews dot com. That
[23:58] Speaker 2: are you'll reminder we're going to be doing Ourtown in
[24:00] Speaker 2: Mackay if you would like to join us there at
[24:02] Speaker 2: the end of the month, we'll be doing a lovely
[24:03] Speaker 2: show at sunset. Join us there our Town at Scotties
[24:06] Speaker 2: dot com today you but right now tonight, No editorial, No,
[24:09] Speaker 2: not too much from me, just giving you a chance
[24:12] Speaker 2: to ask whenever you want of the alternative Prime Minister
[24:14] Speaker 2: and the leader.
[24:14] Speaker 3: Of the Coalition, Angus Taylor doing that right now.
[24:17] Speaker 2: Joining us from beautiful Tazzy is none other than Charles
[24:20] Speaker 2: get our mainhouse Tazy tonight.
[24:22] Speaker 1: It's beautiful as me say, what do you want to ask?
[24:28] Speaker 9: I assume that all of the parties that are right
[24:30] Speaker 9: of center would have a shared common view that the
[24:33] Speaker 9: Albanesi government is a bad government and that the longer
[24:37] Speaker 9: it remains in government, the greater the harm will be
[24:40] Speaker 9: to Australia. So my question is given that is it
[24:44] Speaker 9: possible for the Liberal Party and indeed the Coalition to
[24:49] Speaker 9: work with one nation to defeat the Albanesi government in
[24:54] Speaker 9: twenty twenty eight. Notwithstanding that there are many people in
[24:57] Speaker 9: the Liberal party who view one nation as the enemy
[25:00] Speaker 9: rather than the Albanese government.
[25:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, great question, Charles, and thank you, Thank you for that.
[25:08] Speaker 1: And can I say our overriding objective as a coalition
[25:13] Speaker 1: Liberal and National Party is to beat labor at the
[25:16] Speaker 1: next election, to restore our standard of living, as I said,
[25:20] Speaker 1: and protect our way of life, and that means that
[25:24] Speaker 1: means that we have to do whatever we can to
[25:26] Speaker 1: get rid of that rotten labor government now. Even before that, though,
[25:30] Speaker 1: can I say that there are a lot of things
[25:33] Speaker 1: this government is trying to do that we need to
[25:35] Speaker 1: try to stop and we will do everything, we will
[25:38] Speaker 1: fight like hell, as I said in my budget and reply,
[25:41] Speaker 1: to stop them from doing that, and that includes in
[25:44] Speaker 1: particular acting there rotten taxes on small businesses, on homes,
[25:48] Speaker 1: on savings, and I will work with whoever I can
[25:52] Speaker 1: work with to stop labor getting those taxes through. And
[25:55] Speaker 1: I will work with whoever I can work with to
[25:58] Speaker 1: defeat labor at the next Elene, and I hope that
[26:02] Speaker 1: one nation will vote with us on acting those taxes.
[26:07] Speaker 1: And as I say, we'll do whatever we can to
[26:09] Speaker 1: beat labor because Australian needs that we are heading in
[26:12] Speaker 1: the wrong direction. I know Australians across this great country
[26:16] Speaker 1: from Tazzy all the way up to the northwest of
[26:20] Speaker 1: Western Australia. I know Australians are feeling that this country
[26:24] Speaker 1: is heading in the right direction and we have to
[26:26] Speaker 1: change that.
[26:27] Speaker 3: Yeah, good on each other.
[26:28] Speaker 2: So I do appreciate it, obviously, I mean the follow
[26:31] Speaker 2: up question to anyone, and I obviously have had people
[26:33] Speaker 2: to make the suggestions, well, why don't they all just
[26:35] Speaker 2: get together?
[26:35] Speaker 1: We like who should lead?
[26:36] Speaker 3: It is one question inevitably, in order for any.
[26:44] Speaker 2: Party to grow, it's got to stand in one hundred
[26:46] Speaker 2: and fifty seats right at some point in time.
[26:49] Speaker 3: That means only one party will win.
[26:52] Speaker 2: There's no way to share a seat like Farah, There's
[26:55] Speaker 2: no way to share anything. So when people, I think,
[27:00] Speaker 2: when people like Charles have that question, it comes obviously
[27:03] Speaker 2: from that place of look, the enemy is not within,
[27:05] Speaker 2: the enemy is somewhere else. But inevitably about the one
[27:09] Speaker 2: nation question, or as it is from a one nation question,
[27:13] Speaker 2: the liberal question is at some point it's a contested system, right,
[27:18] Speaker 2: but did you learn anything about fara about how hard
[27:22] Speaker 2: to hit one nation, whether you didn't hit hard enough,
[27:26] Speaker 2: whether you hit too hard trying to hold onto that
[27:28] Speaker 2: seat because obviously that was a context.
[27:30] Speaker 1: Well, I think the most important thing about Farah is
[27:33] Speaker 1: Labor didn't turn up. Yes, I mean they didn't show up,
[27:37] Speaker 1: the Prime Minister, they didn't show up. And I'll tell
[27:40] Speaker 1: you what, if you had a shown up, you would
[27:42] Speaker 1: have got a very strong message. And this is the point.
[27:45] Speaker 1: The reason why Pararell I think was difficult for us
[27:48] Speaker 1: more than anything else is number one, we'd lost we'd
[27:51] Speaker 1: bredge trust with the voters, There's no question about that,
[27:54] Speaker 1: and I took that away and Matt did as well.
[27:56] Speaker 1: But secondly, the voters didn't have a chance to tell
[28:01] Speaker 1: this government what they thought of them. And I think
[28:04] Speaker 1: that will be different when Labor has to front up
[28:06] Speaker 1: at a general election and in the end people will
[28:10] Speaker 1: have to decide who they want is their government. I'm
[28:13] Speaker 1: confident people will decide to get rid of a rotten
[28:15] Speaker 1: labor government.
[28:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean obviously a lot of people want to
[28:17] Speaker 2: ask about this, including James, who's sent in this written
[28:20] Speaker 2: question to us so via the email La paula scot
[28:22] Speaker 2: News dot com dot you. James, who is in Central Queensland,
[28:26] Speaker 2: says an honest person would say that one nation is
[28:29] Speaker 2: a threat to the Liberals.
[28:30] Speaker 1: Will you say that, well, James, it's a good question,
[28:35] Speaker 1: but I would say there are only a threat to
[28:37] Speaker 1: us if we don't focus on you. That's to me,
[28:41] Speaker 1: it's pretty simple if we are seen by many voters
[28:44] Speaker 1: not to have focused enough on the things they care about.
[28:48] Speaker 1: And that's why I've been laying out over recent days,
[28:52] Speaker 1: our focus on getting rid of rotten taxes, focusing on
[28:55] Speaker 1: reward for effort, getting young Australians inner homes that they own,
[29:00] Speaker 1: the energy madness in this country, ending mass migration, putting
[29:03] Speaker 1: Australians first. This is about focusing on Australians. We haven't
[29:07] Speaker 1: done that enough. And if we don't do that, You're right,
[29:11] Speaker 1: they're a very big threat to us, and they should
[29:13] Speaker 1: be because if we're not doing what we're supposed to do,
[29:18] Speaker 1: then we don't deserve to be a successful political party.
[29:21] Speaker 1: But my job is to change that and that's what
[29:23] Speaker 1: I'm seeking to do.
[29:24] Speaker 2: Let's go to the top of the country right now, Darwin.
[29:26] Speaker 2: Of course, Dave joins us now live Dave, how are
[29:29] Speaker 2: you mate?
[29:29] Speaker 3: What's your question for Angus Taylor?
[29:32] Speaker 4: Good for and good evening to you and Angus. My
[29:36] Speaker 4: question is, how do you propose to reduce Australia's massive debt,
[29:40] Speaker 4: reduce the matthew und necessary size of government and return
[29:44] Speaker 4: Australia to a small government, free market threeom loving company.
[29:49] Speaker 3: Good on your Dave.
[29:50] Speaker 1: What a great question, Dave, because that's exactly what I
[29:53] Speaker 1: want to do. So how do we do it? Well,
[29:55] Speaker 1: first of all, we've got to get rid of Labour's
[29:58] Speaker 1: wasteful spending. We are on our way to a trillion
[30:02] Speaker 1: dollars of debt. We'll get there in the coming months.
[30:05] Speaker 1: We're very close to it now. Sadly, it's not where
[30:08] Speaker 1: we should be. So how do we get rid of
[30:11] Speaker 1: their wasteful spending. Well, they're spending money on corporate welfare
[30:14] Speaker 1: for big businesses that don't need money from the government,
[30:19] Speaker 1: and we've seen that within the so called National Reconstruction
[30:21] Speaker 1: Fund that's effectively sending industry offshore in this country. That's
[30:26] Speaker 1: not the answer. If you want industry in this country,
[30:28] Speaker 1: give it affordable energy, make it easy to get approvals,
[30:32] Speaker 1: make it easier to do business. We'll get rid of
[30:35] Speaker 1: their climate bureaucracy. Getting rid of that zero means we
[30:38] Speaker 1: can get rid of the climate bureaucracy eighteen billion dollars
[30:41] Speaker 1: of new spending for net zero. In this budget. We'll
[30:45] Speaker 1: get rid of their housing bureaucracy that's not delivering houses.
[30:49] Speaker 1: So labor has seen the number of houses being built
[30:52] Speaker 1: in this country going backwards. We need it to go up.
[30:56] Speaker 1: And so there's a whole series of programs that they're
[30:59] Speaker 1: committed to, including including giving home deposits to non citizens.
[31:04] Speaker 1: And then finally we'll put Australians first, and by restricting
[31:08] Speaker 1: our seventeen different welfare programs to Australian citizens. There are
[31:12] Speaker 1: significant savings, but that's important because taxpayers money should be
[31:17] Speaker 1: focused on Australian citizens.
[31:19] Speaker 2: As part of the advocacy. Otherwise, I owned to spin
[31:24] Speaker 2: in and around the budget. The government was talking about
[31:26] Speaker 2: how they'd made some sixty four billion dollars worth of savings.
[31:29] Speaker 2: What I don't understand is is that when they reduce
[31:32] Speaker 2: something from expenditure it's a saving. If you suggested it's
[31:35] Speaker 2: a cut and everyone's they're going to take the pension
[31:38] Speaker 2: and all the rest. How do you seek to manage
[31:42] Speaker 2: that politics that any change to every dollar that's now
[31:47] Speaker 2: or promised fifteen years in the future, you're trying to
[31:49] Speaker 2: steal candy from babies and throw a little ot of
[31:52] Speaker 2: ladies down.
[31:53] Speaker 1: Well, they'll always say that because they love their need
[31:56] Speaker 1: zero bureaucracy, and they love their housing bureaucracy, and they
[31:58] Speaker 1: love giving out corporate welfare, and they're happy to give
[32:03] Speaker 1: money to someone the day they arrive in the country,
[32:06] Speaker 1: even if they're a non citizen. All but we're going
[32:08] Speaker 1: to keep arguing the case that this is just wasted money.
[32:11] Speaker 1: It's wasted money.
[32:11] Speaker 11: Now.
[32:12] Speaker 1: They'll run scare campaigns, of course, because they always do.
[32:14] Speaker 1: But the scariest thing about this government is that when
[32:18] Speaker 1: they start running out of money because they're spending too much,
[32:21] Speaker 1: they come after yours and that's why they're proposing these
[32:24] Speaker 1: new taxes and that's such a big part of the budget.
[32:28] Speaker 1: So look, label will say what it will say. But
[32:31] Speaker 1: I think Australians now are tuned into the fact that
[32:34] Speaker 1: this is a government that's seen spending grow too fast,
[32:36] Speaker 1: government grow too fast, and the result is private sector,
[32:40] Speaker 1: the private sector, the businesses are going backwards.
[32:44] Speaker 2: Got another question here, This one is from Greg in Ballina. Greg,
[32:47] Speaker 2: go for it your question tonight.
[32:50] Speaker 12: Leading mister Tayler. My question to you is what are
[32:54] Speaker 12: your three top priorities you wish to present to the
[32:58] Speaker 12: Australian public to win them over and be credible and
[33:02] Speaker 12: achievable before the next federal election.
[33:06] Speaker 1: Good on, Greg, Well, it's a great question, Greg, And
[33:09] Speaker 1: I'm starting to repeat myself a bit here, sorry to
[33:12] Speaker 1: say that, but it is a good question. But it
[33:14] Speaker 1: will ax the rotten labor taxes, on small businesses, on houses,
[33:19] Speaker 1: on savings and investment, will end the energy madness scrap zero,
[33:25] Speaker 1: will bring mass migration to an end because it's migration
[33:29] Speaker 1: has been too high and the standards have been too low.
[33:31] Speaker 1: And we'll put Australian citizens first in everything we do,
[33:35] Speaker 1: including our welfare programs. So these are our top priorities.
[33:42] Speaker 1: I'm sure there will be other things between now and
[33:44] Speaker 1: the election that we'll announce, so we have this is
[33:46] Speaker 1: We're still eighteen months or so away from an election.
[33:49] Speaker 1: But these are the priorities I'm going to be talking
[33:51] Speaker 1: about now every day from now until the next election.
[33:55] Speaker 1: And I'm confident that they're the right priorities for Australians
[33:58] Speaker 1: because we need young Australians to believe in our country again,
[34:01] Speaker 1: to understand reward for effort to believe that they can
[34:04] Speaker 1: own a home, that they can raise their family, and
[34:07] Speaker 1: then they can have the Australia that so many of
[34:09] Speaker 1: us enjoyed and have enjoyed and believe in that is
[34:13] Speaker 1: disappearing in front of us.
[34:14] Speaker 2: One thing that I always like about a public forum,
[34:17] Speaker 2: you know, politics in the pub teste things like this
[34:20] Speaker 2: is the opportunity, again just like a debate, see how
[34:23] Speaker 2: people think and respond to questions, but also it's an
[34:27] Speaker 2: opportunity to get to know you the person, ever so
[34:29] Speaker 2: slightly right, tell us about your kids, because I haven't
[34:33] Speaker 2: heard much about them and even trying to do a
[34:35] Speaker 2: bit of research. Obviously it's a relatively private family as
[34:38] Speaker 2: all kids are not out in the spotlight like mum
[34:41] Speaker 2: and dad are, or certainly that in this case.
[34:43] Speaker 1: Tell us about your kids. Well, four kids, both lays.
[34:47] Speaker 1: My wife and I are from big families. She's from
[34:49] Speaker 1: a family of six and I'm from a family of
[34:51] Speaker 1: four boys, and so we've got four kids, so we
[34:54] Speaker 1: love a big family. Their age from youngest is about
[34:57] Speaker 1: to turn twenty and oldest is twenty seven, and they're
[35:01] Speaker 1: scattered around working. I've got one still at Uni, but
[35:06] Speaker 1: three three out working. I'm incredibly proud of them. Look,
[35:08] Speaker 1: they're the most important part of my life. That's the
[35:12] Speaker 1: that's the best thing I've ever done. And they've had
[35:17] Speaker 1: to live with a father in politics for the last
[35:19] Speaker 1: twelve years, which you know, when they're that age, that's
[35:21] Speaker 1: a big part of their lives and that hasn't always
[35:24] Speaker 1: been easy, but they've handled it incredibly well. And my
[35:27] Speaker 1: wife has been important to that. So, like so many
[35:30] Speaker 1: of you viewers, families, the most important thing to me
[35:33] Speaker 1: of all what do.
[35:34] Speaker 3: They like to pull you up on it? One kid
[35:35] Speaker 3: who's always going dad dad when you're on TV? What's
[35:38] Speaker 3: with this? And what's with that?
[35:39] Speaker 12: Yeah?
[35:40] Speaker 1: They're pretty ruthless.
[35:41] Speaker 4: Yeah good.
[35:43] Speaker 1: They give me a hard time about all sorts of things.
[35:47] Speaker 1: But look, you know they love me too.
[35:50] Speaker 3: Correct.
[35:51] Speaker 1: That's what matters.
[35:52] Speaker 2: I've got an eight and eleven year old girl, and
[35:54] Speaker 2: believe me, they're the best critics in the business.
[35:55] Speaker 3: Why did you do that? Why did you lean this way?
[35:57] Speaker 3: Why do you lean that way?
[35:58] Speaker 1: All right?
[35:58] Speaker 3: Grant is in yas.
[35:59] Speaker 2: He's submitted this question as well via our email where
[36:03] Speaker 2: One Nation has announced that they would combine household incomes
[36:06] Speaker 2: for tax purposes to help lower income tax for families.
[36:10] Speaker 2: Would you be open to a similar idea.
[36:12] Speaker 3: If not the same if?
[36:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is income splitting and I assume it's
[36:17] Speaker 1: talking about there. Well, what i'd say, Grant is our
[36:21] Speaker 1: focus is on lower taxes and that's why we're going
[36:23] Speaker 1: to get rid of these rotten taxes and prevent income
[36:26] Speaker 1: taxes from rising, which I think is the worst thing
[36:30] Speaker 1: of all. Right now, because of inflation, people's income tax
[36:34] Speaker 1: rates are rising all the time and it's one of
[36:36] Speaker 1: the key reasons why people feel poorer. Income splitting is
[36:40] Speaker 1: something we're very open to considering. The thing I would
[36:43] Speaker 1: say is right now, many Australians can do some level
[36:48] Speaker 1: of income splitting, and Labour's trying to get rid of
[36:50] Speaker 1: it with their small business tax. That is exactly what
[36:53] Speaker 1: they're focused on. They're trying to eliminate all income splitting.
[36:58] Speaker 1: We are opposed to that and we will fight hard
[37:00] Speaker 1: on that, and we hope that other parties in the
[37:02] Speaker 1: Parliament will support us in opposing that change.
[37:05] Speaker 2: All right, more with Angus Taylor in a moment or
[37:07] Speaker 2: two is time here in the man Cave with us
[37:09] Speaker 2: this Monday night here on Sky News.
[37:10] Speaker 3: Plenty more questions.
[37:11] Speaker 2: We'll move on from the one Nation ones now and
[37:13] Speaker 2: get into everything from well favorite beers to the Port
[37:16] Speaker 2: of Darwin, a lot of tax a lot of other
[37:18] Speaker 2: things to do. It's all ask me anything this special
[37:20] Speaker 2: Monday night. Thanks again watching Paul Murray Live this Monday Night.
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[37:38] Speaker 3: Share the content. It's good to see. All right.
[37:41] Speaker 2: We're here, of course, with Angus Taylor, the leader of
[37:43] Speaker 2: the Liberal Party, leader of the opposition, the alternative Prime Minister.
[37:45] Speaker 2: We've got a whole bunch of questions here, including let's
[37:48] Speaker 2: go to North Taramura on the up and all shore
[37:50] Speaker 2: of Sydney, and that's where Peter is joining us.
[37:53] Speaker 13: Now, Peter, it's the Taylor. My question relates to courage
[37:57] Speaker 13: and conviction. Hawk, Howard and Costello all made big, unpopular
[38:03] Speaker 13: reform decisions that took years to deliver results an Australia
[38:08] Speaker 13: prosper for three decades as a result. What is the
[38:12] Speaker 13: one hard decision you're prepared to make and sell to
[38:16] Speaker 13: Australians knowing it will cost you politically in the short term.
[38:20] Speaker 3: Good one, Peter.
[38:21] Speaker 1: I like, it's a great question, Peter, and thank you
[38:24] Speaker 1: for it. And this is one that I think about
[38:28] Speaker 1: a lot, because I am a great believer that that
[38:31] Speaker 1: era set this country up to be strong for a
[38:35] Speaker 1: long period of time, and it was a very influential
[38:37] Speaker 1: period on my life. I think what I laid out
[38:41] Speaker 1: in the budget reply last Thursday night was exactly that
[38:45] Speaker 1: there were decisions that we made that we announced on
[38:49] Speaker 1: the night or in the lead up to Thursday Night,
[38:51] Speaker 1: which are tough decisions. To say, for instance, that our
[38:55] Speaker 1: welfare system should be restricted to citizens. I mean that's
[38:58] Speaker 1: a some will see that is a tough decision. Or
[39:02] Speaker 1: to say that we've got to reduce the migration level
[39:05] Speaker 1: to a level where we can absorb it with the
[39:09] Speaker 1: housing that we've got. But also the indexing of tax
[39:14] Speaker 1: brackets now sounds that might sound to people terribly technical, book,
[39:17] Speaker 1: but this is incredibly important. This is a massive change
[39:21] Speaker 1: to our tax system, which means if inflation rages as
[39:25] Speaker 1: it has in recent years, you're not going to pay
[39:27] Speaker 1: the price for it. By paying a higher income tax rate.
[39:31] Speaker 1: But under labor in recent years, that's exactly what happened.
[39:35] Speaker 1: Now if we do that, if we get rid of
[39:38] Speaker 1: bracket creepers it's called the inflation tax, then what happens
[39:43] Speaker 1: is government gets less money. Government gets less money than
[39:46] Speaker 1: it otherwise would. And I think that's a good thing,
[39:49] Speaker 1: but it's going to be a tough thing. It means
[39:51] Speaker 1: that government has to live within its means. But my
[39:53] Speaker 1: own view is that households and businesses have to live
[39:56] Speaker 1: with families have to live within their means, So why
[39:59] Speaker 1: shouldn't Why should automatically get extra money when inflation rages.
[40:05] Speaker 1: This is a big change. It's a big change. Malcolm
[40:08] Speaker 1: Fraser tried to do it for a very short period
[40:10] Speaker 1: of time and reversed it. We have to commit to
[40:13] Speaker 1: this and do it, and I think it will be
[40:15] Speaker 1: one of the most important reforms that have been made
[40:18] Speaker 1: in Australia in recent times.
[40:20] Speaker 2: Now, despite the fact that we've had policy, political, personal questions,
[40:23] Speaker 2: the one that Twitter will pretend we did an entire hour.
[40:26] Speaker 3: About is the question I'm about to ask you, which
[40:28] Speaker 3: comes from Ian in Beautiful to Womba. What's your favorite beer?
[40:34] Speaker 1: It's a great, great question. Ian. So I don't mind it.
[40:37] Speaker 1: I don't mind a beer, but my taste in beer
[40:40] Speaker 1: is pretty standard. I love it too, is new I
[40:43] Speaker 1: love it to you. I don't mind four X up
[40:44] Speaker 1: in Lost Queens. I actually do like four X. I
[40:48] Speaker 1: like VB down in Victor Victoria. I don't really like
[40:52] Speaker 1: the heavy sort of hoppy, hoppy stuff.
[40:55] Speaker 3: It's just just a to his new man, to.
[40:58] Speaker 1: His new man, I mean ground. By the way, you noticed,
[41:01] Speaker 1: Paul is in economics and the research I did years
[41:05] Speaker 1: ago when I was studying economics was on the price
[41:09] Speaker 1: of beer, and it was the only research that any
[41:12] Speaker 1: of my mates were interested in.
[41:14] Speaker 2: How long did that take and how did you get
[41:16] Speaker 2: away with that?
[41:17] Speaker 1: Two years?
[41:18] Speaker 4: Two years?
[41:19] Speaker 1: Well it was a degree that was two you, of course,
[41:22] Speaker 1: but that was the research I did, say, Yeah, so.
[41:25] Speaker 3: What insight did it give you?
[41:26] Speaker 1: I mean, well, it was very interesting that you should
[41:29] Speaker 1: allow the brewers to own pubs. Right, So there've been
[41:33] Speaker 1: a big fight in the UK over whether the brewers
[41:37] Speaker 1: should own pubs, and Maggie Thatchery had got involved in
[41:39] Speaker 1: the in the fight, and the conclusion I came to
[41:42] Speaker 1: is you should allow the brewers to own pubs. And
[41:44] Speaker 1: of course we've seen in recent years that the small
[41:48] Speaker 1: brewers owning pubs has all been integrated with pubs or
[41:51] Speaker 1: pubs brewing their own beer at least has been a
[41:54] Speaker 1: really positive thing. But I did your show from it
[41:57] Speaker 1: a brewer just the other day.
[41:59] Speaker 2: I was going to say, one of your elector, but
[42:00] Speaker 2: I was gonna say, now before again, they're going to
[42:02] Speaker 2: clip and go. He's against the local publican you're you're
[42:06] Speaker 2: saying that they should be able. They should be able.
[42:09] Speaker 2: There should just be no restriction. Not that they the
[42:10] Speaker 2: only people are going to own a pub. It's a
[42:12] Speaker 2: giant multinational brewer.
[42:14] Speaker 1: They should, in fact the other way around. I mean,
[42:16] Speaker 1: what Margaret Thatcher did is she said the big brewers
[42:21] Speaker 1: shouldn't be allowed to own too many pubs, and that
[42:23] Speaker 1: worked pretty well. So allow the smaller brewers and pubs
[42:26] Speaker 1: to be integrated.
[42:27] Speaker 3: Good stuff.
[42:28] Speaker 2: So you learn, you learn something every day. Two years
[42:31] Speaker 2: on the price appear. Where do I sign up on that?
[42:34] Speaker 4: Though?
[42:34] Speaker 3: Thank you?
[42:34] Speaker 2: And I'm not a drinker, so I'll still do it anyway.
[42:36] Speaker 2: Luke is in the Port of Daren with his cowboy
[42:38] Speaker 2: jersey on.
[42:39] Speaker 3: Mate. All right, let's get to it.
[42:41] Speaker 2: What do you want to ask, Okay, Paul Angus, I'd
[42:45] Speaker 2: like to know the PM's buried the topic of the
[42:48] Speaker 2: Port of Darwin.
[42:50] Speaker 1: Ye, if elected, what would you do about it? Get
[42:52] Speaker 1: on you look, great question, Luke, And the answer is
[42:56] Speaker 1: it must go back into Australian hand. It's full stop this.
[43:02] Speaker 1: You are absolutely right the Prime Minister has buried this.
[43:07] Speaker 1: I'm sure my colleague James Patterson, who is our shadow
[43:10] Speaker 1: for Defense, will have more to say about this in
[43:13] Speaker 1: the near future. But it shouldn't be buried. This should
[43:16] Speaker 1: be something that should be dealt with. It's not being
[43:18] Speaker 1: dealt with, and I've spoken in recent months to people
[43:21] Speaker 1: who are deeply concerned about this. I think we can
[43:25] Speaker 1: get an Australian buyer, and I think we must get
[43:28] Speaker 1: an Australian buyer for the Port of Darwin. For those
[43:30] Speaker 1: of it who are not across this issue, it's currently
[43:34] Speaker 1: part owned at least by a Chinese company. This is
[43:38] Speaker 1: a strategic asset which is critical to our defense and
[43:43] Speaker 1: it is incredibly important that it be in Australian hands.
[43:45] Speaker 2: All right, good on you mate, Thank you, enjoyed Darwin.
[43:47] Speaker 2: We'll see you there a little later in the years,
[43:49] Speaker 2: so I wonder if we'll be around ckrack and Knight.
[43:51] Speaker 3: I do love that. Have you ever been to Kracken,
[43:52] Speaker 3: Knight and Darwin?
[43:53] Speaker 1: Now I haven't.
[43:54] Speaker 2: Mate First of July each and every year it's I
[43:56] Speaker 2: think the one place left in the country where it's legal, legal,
[43:59] Speaker 2: and it's Dicelerate Territory Day their independence. So if you
[44:02] Speaker 2: just happen to be there, make sure it's with the
[44:04] Speaker 2: family on the first. Lea and Steve have said us
[44:07] Speaker 2: in a question as well, they are in the beautiful
[44:09] Speaker 2: with Sundays in Queensland. Lea and Steve make the most
[44:12] Speaker 2: of your time on the Telly Gad.
[44:15] Speaker 4: Paul and Angus.
[44:16] Speaker 9: Firstly, thank you for this opportunity and also congratulations Angus
[44:21] Speaker 9: on your budget reply speech.
[44:23] Speaker 1: Our question for you, Angus is.
[44:25] Speaker 11: We want to know that if elected, Angus, would you
[44:28] Speaker 11: commit to supporting the Queensland L and P State government
[44:31] Speaker 11: with future exploration, drilling, refining and storage of oil of
[44:36] Speaker 11: fuel to increase Australia's fuel security by removing all obstacles
[44:41] Speaker 11: currently in place as Queensland has the future potential to
[44:45] Speaker 11: be the Saudi Arabia of Australia.
[44:47] Speaker 1: Thank you good Yeah, now that great question, Lea and Steve,
[44:50] Speaker 1: and absolutely I know David chris A fully is very
[44:54] Speaker 1: committed to this. He's announced in recent weeks that he
[44:59] Speaker 1: wants to get drilling moving in the Tarum Trough, which
[45:02] Speaker 1: offers enormous potential for oil and gas. Look, the best
[45:07] Speaker 1: way to have a secure supply of oil and gas
[45:09] Speaker 1: in this country is to use our own oil and gas,
[45:13] Speaker 1: and that means getting it out from under the ground,
[45:17] Speaker 1: drilling it and getting it out from under the ground
[45:20] Speaker 1: and refining it. And we have a refinery in Brisbane.
[45:24] Speaker 1: I was there just a couple of weeks ago. So
[45:27] Speaker 1: what we have said is we will fast track approvals
[45:31] Speaker 1: for oil and gas projects across Australia and including in Queensland.
[45:36] Speaker 1: We've said that we'll have particular focus on the t
[45:40] Speaker 1: Trough and we've also said that we will provide the
[45:44] Speaker 1: same support to the refinery in Brisbane to any new
[45:48] Speaker 1: refineries that might emerge. And so it's incredibly important we
[45:53] Speaker 1: have that fuel security and that's why we've announced those initiatives.
[45:56] Speaker 3: All Right, thank you very much.
[45:57] Speaker 2: All right, quick break back with more one last round
[45:58] Speaker 2: of questions from country from people all over the country.
[46:01] Speaker 3: We'll do that in a moment or two. Is time
[46:02] Speaker 3: here and don't forget late debate about seven minutes away
[46:05] Speaker 3: here on Sky News. Thanks for watching.
[46:10] Speaker 2: I love this the opportunity to talk to the people
[46:12] Speaker 2: who are all over the news and want to run
[46:14] Speaker 2: our country, and you to be able to ask whatever
[46:16] Speaker 2: question you want. Angus Taylor's in the hot seat tonight
[46:18] Speaker 2: here and thank you very much for doing so. In
[46:20] Speaker 2: the man Cave, and Jennett in Saint Clair has decided
[46:23] Speaker 2: to write in and saying do you have an indigenous policy?
[46:26] Speaker 3: If so, what is it?
[46:27] Speaker 2: Obviously it's a couple of years out from election, but
[46:29] Speaker 2: still your thoughts on clutch matters.
[46:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, another great question. And of course the starting point
[46:35] Speaker 1: here is we've got to make sure that every dollar
[46:38] Speaker 1: we're spending in this area is being spent well. And
[46:41] Speaker 1: I think there are deep concerns about whether it is
[46:44] Speaker 1: being spent well. And frankly, I don't think it has
[46:47] Speaker 1: I mean, I think all of us all are very
[46:50] Speaker 1: concerned about what we've seen in recent weeks in the
[46:55] Speaker 1: town camp, obviously near Alice Springs and just seeing her
[47:00] Speaker 1: and I have spoken about this many times. We need better,
[47:04] Speaker 1: We need better than that what we didn't need was
[47:07] Speaker 1: the voice dividing Australians on this. But what we do
[47:11] Speaker 1: need right now is to make sure every single dollar
[47:14] Speaker 1: is spending on indigenous policies, money that is actually getting
[47:17] Speaker 1: good outcomes for Indigenous Australians, and right now I don't
[47:21] Speaker 1: think that's the case.
[47:22] Speaker 3: All right.
[47:22] Speaker 2: Last one here is Peter Cretlin and her editorial this
[47:26] Speaker 2: evening made an excellent point, which is that there are
[47:27] Speaker 2: some green shoots starting to see some movement when it
[47:30] Speaker 2: comes to personality and polls. But it's about hard work
[47:34] Speaker 2: for those who want you to go as far as possible,
[47:38] Speaker 2: and of course that's going to be most people watching.
[47:40] Speaker 2: What promise do you make to them about how hard
[47:42] Speaker 2: you fight for the next couple of years.
[47:44] Speaker 1: I will fight every single day. I'm out every day.
[47:47] Speaker 1: I start the day with a call with my team
[47:50] Speaker 1: soon after six and I'm still going with you now
[47:55] Speaker 1: tonight at ten o'clock, and I will be fighting for Australia.
[48:00] Speaker 1: We'll be fighting for our country because I think our
[48:02] Speaker 1: country is under threat. I think what we believe in
[48:05] Speaker 1: our way of life is under thread. And so I'm
[48:10] Speaker 1: going to leave nothing on the field here because Australians deserve.
[48:13] Speaker 2: That good stuff, all right, Angles Tyler, thank you very much.
[48:15] Speaker 2: Great to be look forward to it one of many
[48:17] Speaker 2: conversations ahead of course, As always, the opportunity is here
[48:19] Speaker 2: for all of the political leaders.
[48:21] Speaker 3: Consider yourself invited, Prime Minister.
[48:24] Speaker 2: If you would like us to ask those questions or
[48:26] Speaker 2: to give you the opportunity, who do you want to
[48:28] Speaker 2: see in the chair with the ask me anything? Can
[48:30] Speaker 2: always send me that email Paul at skynews dot com
[48:33] Speaker 2: dot au.
[48:33] Speaker 3: Back to the normal show tomorrow night.
[48:35] Speaker 2: Remember all of the highlights video of tonight and all
[48:38] Speaker 2: of the programs. Well, it sits on what should be
[48:40] Speaker 2: the homepage of your computer, whatever it happens to be,
[48:43] Speaker 2: which of course is skynews dot com dot Au. Late debate,
[48:47] Speaker 2: Will they get underway right now

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