# Paul Murray Live | 31 March

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 31 Mar 2026, 49 min.

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The Albanese government to halve fuel excise for three months, RBA scraps card surcharges. Plus, voters avoiding healthcare due to costs. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: From the Scaling Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Erry,
[0:07] Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday. Come on into the man Cave. We've got
[0:09] Speaker 1: an awful lot of work to do, including one final
[0:13] Speaker 1: warning to the petrol companies of this country. You are
[0:16] Speaker 1: this close to becoming the banks. And remember one of
[0:20] Speaker 1: our national sports is bank bashing, so much so that
[0:23] Speaker 1: there was a Royal commission into the way that the
[0:26] Speaker 1: banks did what they did. Now, sure not a lot
[0:30] Speaker 1: of it got implemented and there's been no major changes since,
[0:33] Speaker 1: but you get my point. Now. The reality is is
[0:37] Speaker 1: that the petrol companies of Australia have a chance from
[0:40] Speaker 1: midnight tonight to show that they get it, because if
[0:45] Speaker 1: they don't, there is about to be a ton of
[0:47] Speaker 1: bricks which is going to fall upon them, and rightly so.
[0:50] Speaker 1: As you know, yesterday the decision was made by the
[0:52] Speaker 1: government to have the petrol excise. Now they should have
[0:55] Speaker 1: done that a long time ago. Fifty two cents per
[0:58] Speaker 1: liter is outrageous, but we got where we wanted to go.
[1:02] Speaker 1: But the word today is that when the reduction kicks in,
[1:06] Speaker 1: and that kicks in at midnight tonight the start of
[1:10] Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, that there may be a reason why when
[1:12] Speaker 1: you wake up petrol will not fall by twenty six
[1:16] Speaker 1: cents a liter by the morning.
[1:19] Speaker 2: The fuel excise kicks in from tomorrow. But when will
[1:23] Speaker 2: we see reductions at the bowser? Won't be tomorrow, they
[1:26] Speaker 2: expector in Sydney and the city will take about a
[1:29] Speaker 2: week for that those cuts to be passed on something
[1:32] Speaker 2: like twenty six cents a leter. It could be up
[1:34] Speaker 2: to two weeks for those in the bush to feel that.
[1:38] Speaker 1: What garbage, Because of course they increase their prices the
[1:43] Speaker 1: second the bombs started to fall in Iran. Now, if
[1:47] Speaker 1: the theory is is that the petrol price that we
[1:50] Speaker 1: are paying today is because they have to order it tomorrow, well,
[1:54] Speaker 1: the price, of course of oil had not increased when
[1:58] Speaker 1: the first bombs drop about a month ago. In fact,
[2:02] Speaker 1: let me show you on the very day where the
[2:04] Speaker 1: war began in Australia, the petrol price was a dollar
[2:08] Speaker 1: eighty two, just a couple of days later up to
[2:14] Speaker 1: a dollar ninety seven. So they can move fast on
[2:17] Speaker 1: the way up. They've got to do it on the
[2:19] Speaker 1: way down. By March eleven, it was two dollars nineteen
[2:26] Speaker 1: and today it's two dollars fifty. So as you can see,
[2:31] Speaker 1: we've gone from a dollar eighty two twenty eighth of
[2:33] Speaker 1: February to now the end of March, where the number
[2:37] Speaker 1: is now two dollars fifty. So the reality is is
[2:40] Speaker 1: that these companies immediately react to world events. And what happened.
[2:45] Speaker 1: Remember on a weekend when no one was trading oil,
[2:49] Speaker 1: they went, oh, prices are going to go up. Up,
[2:51] Speaker 1: we start to go and it started to go even higher.
[2:54] Speaker 1: And even when I showed you that the global oil
[2:57] Speaker 1: price had started to come down off the mega highs
[3:00] Speaker 1: of a couple of weeks ago, no reduction whatsoever. So
[3:04] Speaker 1: the reality is is that petrol companies have one choice
[3:07] Speaker 1: and one choice only because remember that twenty five cents
[3:11] Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the money that they have
[3:14] Speaker 1: to go and buy more fuel. It is money that
[3:18] Speaker 1: they already send to the federal government, regardless of whether
[3:22] Speaker 1: it's a dollar or leader for petrol, or whether it
[3:24] Speaker 1: is three dollars a liter for diesel. That's the truth.
[3:30] Speaker 1: Now today the treasurer was starting to pivot where the
[3:34] Speaker 1: politics will go in the next few days. And I
[3:36] Speaker 1: am no fan of this government. I am no fan
[3:38] Speaker 1: of this treasurer. But can I make it very clear
[3:40] Speaker 1: to anyone with any connection to an oil company, you
[3:43] Speaker 1: are about to become public enemy number one if you
[3:46] Speaker 1: do not reduce the amount that you send to the
[3:49] Speaker 1: federal government from tonight.
[3:53] Speaker 3: Obviously, we'll make sure via the A Trip will see
[3:55] Speaker 3: that the benefit is passed on as is appropriate. People
[3:59] Speaker 3: shouldn't be taking motorists for mugs when it comes to
[4:03] Speaker 3: passing it on. I've written to the chair of the
[4:05] Speaker 3: A TRIP or C to set the expectations on this front.
[4:10] Speaker 1: By the way, don't you love how everyone's writing letters
[4:12] Speaker 1: to each other still? Angus Taylor wrote a letter to
[4:14] Speaker 1: the Prime Minister about a petro excise, and the Treasurer
[4:17] Speaker 1: is writing a letter. There's no phone course, there's no
[4:19] Speaker 1: text messages, there's no obvious common sense which needs to
[4:22] Speaker 1: be followed here. Now again, if the petrol companies want
[4:26] Speaker 1: to turn around and play a game where they are
[4:28] Speaker 1: pretending to hold on to tax that they would otherwise
[4:31] Speaker 1: have had to hand on to the federal government, then
[4:34] Speaker 1: we know that what their game is is one that
[4:37] Speaker 1: is about profit taking. Now I know that the person
[4:40] Speaker 1: who may well work at the servo does not own
[4:43] Speaker 1: the survey, so don't blow up at those people. But
[4:45] Speaker 1: let's see what Head Office does, not in a week,
[4:48] Speaker 1: not in two weeks time, but tomorrow, because I guarantee
[4:51] Speaker 1: they will end up giving incredible cover to the federal
[4:55] Speaker 1: government to be able to become public enemy number one.
[4:58] Speaker 1: And the federal government, of course, at this point, has
[5:00] Speaker 1: been the public enemy because they were in a position
[5:03] Speaker 1: to cut the tax they didn't. They finally have time
[5:06] Speaker 1: to see it pass on. Now. Remember this was referred
[5:09] Speaker 1: to as drongo economics, the idea that the federal budget
[5:13] Speaker 1: could lose a dollar from this particular thing, which of
[5:17] Speaker 1: course costs people hundreds of dollars or thousands if they're
[5:21] Speaker 1: in the professional driving areas well. They've rolled it back
[5:24] Speaker 1: a little the Sydney Morning Herald. They say it's economically irresponsible,
[5:28] Speaker 1: but absolutely the right thing to do, so they each
[5:31] Speaker 1: way elbow disease has made it all the way to
[5:33] Speaker 1: their newsroom. Meantime, they are still having a look here
[5:39] Speaker 1: that there'll be no retreat, and Charmers is vowing to
[5:42] Speaker 1: have an ambitious budget, so they're back on the side
[5:46] Speaker 1: of the treasurer there. But don't forget this is the
[5:49] Speaker 1: same organization that told us just last week, cheer up,
[5:51] Speaker 1: Australia will turn the corner. Better days are a head
[5:54] Speaker 1: because they think that this will force people to get
[5:56] Speaker 1: out of the combustion engine and make their way towards
[5:58] Speaker 1: an electric vehicle. Now, can I be very clear? While
[6:02] Speaker 1: I bleed red, while I love Holden, while I love
[6:04] Speaker 1: petrol cars, while I wish Formula one was a whole
[6:07] Speaker 1: lot more old school than new school, I understand the
[6:10] Speaker 1: power of an electric vehicle. I understand how this is
[6:12] Speaker 1: the better mouse trap for an awful lot of people.
[6:14] Speaker 1: I also know that we're in twenty twenty six, We're
[6:16] Speaker 1: not in twenty nineteen. There's more of them, and they're cheaper.
[6:19] Speaker 1: I've no interest in purchasing a Chinese car anytime soon.
[6:22] Speaker 1: That's my personal choice. But will I at some point
[6:25] Speaker 1: are in a hybrid? Probably well, at some point eventually
[6:27] Speaker 1: an electric shore probably not the one hundred thousand dollars
[6:30] Speaker 1: minimoke which you can get that's fully electric. I might
[6:33] Speaker 1: find some sort of a midpoint, right, I think the
[6:36] Speaker 1: next one and the last petrol car I'll ownly be
[6:38] Speaker 1: a yute. But somebody who is joining the call that
[6:43] Speaker 1: Australia's way of dealing with future oil shocks. Is for
[6:46] Speaker 1: us to get away from oil is the use of
[6:48] Speaker 1: Wales Premier Chris Mens. Now, normally Chris Mens is sort
[6:51] Speaker 1: of to the right of things in labor politics, but
[6:54] Speaker 1: on this one he's all bowen all the way.
[6:57] Speaker 4: I have to start taking decisions now, and I'll continually
[7:01] Speaker 4: roiled by conflicts in the Middle East, of which we
[7:04] Speaker 4: have limited, if any control over. So that needs more
[7:08] Speaker 4: electric vehicles, it needs more charging stations, it needs more
[7:12] Speaker 4: practical ways that we can look to the future of
[7:14] Speaker 4: our economy.
[7:16] Speaker 1: We will debate and discuss in a couple of moments
[7:18] Speaker 1: time now. The Reserve Bank, of course, is no place
[7:23] Speaker 1: that the average Australian is particularly excited about, especially after
[7:26] Speaker 1: we have not just had one, but two interest rate
[7:29] Speaker 1: rises this year. Remember the one in February because our
[7:31] Speaker 1: inflation rate was higher than the United States, double that
[7:34] Speaker 1: of Japan. And then, of course the one that just
[7:37] Speaker 1: happened most recently. Well, that of course had nothing to
[7:40] Speaker 1: do with the war. Everything post March will be to
[7:42] Speaker 1: do with the war. Sheelle Bullock has been very clear
[7:45] Speaker 1: to say that's the case. But the Reserve Bank made
[7:47] Speaker 1: an interesting decision today and that decision is every time
[7:51] Speaker 1: you go tap and go with your card, who pays
[7:54] Speaker 1: the fee. Let's have a look at the media, who,
[7:56] Speaker 1: of course only view it as black and white, good
[7:58] Speaker 1: and bad.
[8:00] Speaker 5: Surcharge that increases the price on everything we buy with
[8:04] Speaker 5: credit or debit cards is being scrapped, the Reserve Bank
[8:07] Speaker 5: banning the fee from October.
[8:09] Speaker 6: Search charge fees on our credit and debit cards will
[8:12] Speaker 6: soon be a thing of the past, as the Reserve
[8:15] Speaker 6: Bank moves to.
[8:15] Speaker 5: Ax them the extra fees when you tap that people
[8:19] Speaker 5: loathe credit and debit cards, sur charges that cost a
[8:22] Speaker 5: few cents but add up to billions across the economy.
[8:26] Speaker 5: The Reserve Bank tonight announcing they'll be banned now.
[8:29] Speaker 1: I remember I've been talking about this since the COVID era,
[8:32] Speaker 1: when we essentially were moving from cash to tap and go.
[8:35] Speaker 1: Everything became tap and go, and I remember commenting at
[8:38] Speaker 1: the time that was incredibly difficult to find information about
[8:41] Speaker 1: just how much money the bank's made from you every
[8:44] Speaker 1: time you bought anything. Well, the estimates today are that
[8:48] Speaker 1: we're now talking at about one point six billion dollars
[8:51] Speaker 1: in those little micro transactions that happen all day every day.
[8:56] Speaker 1: So yes, on one level, it's good to get rid
[8:59] Speaker 1: of the charge. It's a thing that I support, but
[9:02] Speaker 1: the money's not going away completely. But first, here is
[9:04] Speaker 1: Michelle Bullock, after putting up interest rates twice, trying to
[9:08] Speaker 1: say that she's now saving you money. So all up,
[9:12] Speaker 1: these changes will make card payments simpler for consumers, and
[9:15] Speaker 1: they'll help businesses get better value from their payment services.
[9:21] Speaker 1: And understandably, most people are like the idea of any
[9:24] Speaker 1: announcement saying that a surcharge is disappearing.
[9:28] Speaker 4: The money's just going to the bank.
[9:29] Speaker 7: It's not going to the establishment anyway.
[9:31] Speaker 6: Banks force you to use the cards, get rid of
[9:33] Speaker 6: your cash, and then they charge you for it.
[9:36] Speaker 1: But here's the problem. The banks are not going to
[9:38] Speaker 1: be operating the tap and go machines for free. Instead,
[9:42] Speaker 1: while you the customer will not be charged, the business
[9:46] Speaker 1: will continue to be charged. So the expectation is that
[9:50] Speaker 1: while everything rises all the time, that when there's an
[9:53] Speaker 1: opportunity for a mass increase in prices across hospitality, that
[9:59] Speaker 1: one of the reasons why you'll be paying more for
[10:01] Speaker 1: everything is because the business is still paying for the
[10:05] Speaker 1: tap and going machine, Meaning you're going to pay anyway on.
[10:09] Speaker 8: The first of October, prices are going to have to
[10:12] Speaker 8: go up by one to one and a half percent.
[10:14] Speaker 8: Please don't blame the small business. You can blame the RBA,
[10:17] Speaker 8: the banks. Vis are a MasterCard for the price of
[10:20] Speaker 8: your coffee, beer, newspaper, ice cream or going.
[10:24] Speaker 1: Up today you love it today lead story. Everywhere, charges
[10:28] Speaker 1: on tap and go are disappearing as to risk. No
[10:32] Speaker 1: they're not. They're just moving to the business that will
[10:34] Speaker 1: either absorb them, unlikely if they're a small business, but
[10:38] Speaker 1: most likely you'll just end up paying a different way.
[10:41] Speaker 1: But the machine will still go being, which will entertain everyone.
[10:44] Speaker 1: And by the way, Westpac is predicting that as a
[10:47] Speaker 1: result of the economy being too hot, inflation being too
[10:50] Speaker 1: high before a bomb was dropped, and the pressures that
[10:53] Speaker 1: have happened after the bomb has started to drop in Iran,
[10:56] Speaker 1: not one, not two, three, three more interest rate in
[11:01] Speaker 1: just the next five months or so. Meantime, tomorrow is
[11:06] Speaker 1: April Fool's first of the month pension and punch for
[11:09] Speaker 1: the first of the month. Well, obviously that is also
[11:12] Speaker 1: the time when a lot of other things go up.
[11:14] Speaker 1: And unsurprisingly the government that wants to tell you that
[11:17] Speaker 1: the five dollars or a week tax cut that's going
[11:19] Speaker 1: to save everything. Well, they've also made decisions which is
[11:21] Speaker 1: going to make everything more expensive. In fact, tomorrow you
[11:26] Speaker 1: can get ready for a significant increase in private health premiums.
[11:32] Speaker 1: Government approved that one, a total reduction in the amount
[11:36] Speaker 1: of support that was being given to people pay their
[11:38] Speaker 1: power bills. Again a federal government decision. And some toll roads,
[11:42] Speaker 1: particularly in New South Wales where they start to go
[11:44] Speaker 1: up as well. Well, that has nothing to do with
[11:46] Speaker 1: the federal government and said state governments who did stupid
[11:49] Speaker 1: deals decades ago meantime on the subject of health. And
[11:53] Speaker 1: we know how important health is to all of us
[11:55] Speaker 1: for the most obvious of reasons. And we also know
[11:58] Speaker 1: the lie of the Prime minute running around of the
[12:00] Speaker 1: last federal election pretending that all you need your many care.
[12:03] Speaker 1: You remember that rubbish. Well, today we learn that fifty
[12:07] Speaker 1: percent of Australians avoid healthcare, why because of how expensive
[12:11] Speaker 1: it is. One in two Australians missed out on healthcare
[12:15] Speaker 1: that they needed last year money because they couldn't afford
[12:18] Speaker 1: to do it. The Consumer Health Forum surveyed five thousand people,
[12:23] Speaker 1: so that's more than like three times more than would
[12:27] Speaker 1: go into your average opinion poll, which, of course we'd
[12:29] Speaker 1: decide the direction of the country. The results reviving that
[12:33] Speaker 1: the healthcare system has become increasingly unaffordable. More broadly, the
[12:37] Speaker 1: reporters also looked at financial stress as a key social
[12:40] Speaker 1: determinant of health. It found that thirty five percent of
[12:44] Speaker 1: people reported experiencing at least one financial difficulty or situation
[12:47] Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, with some having to resort for
[12:50] Speaker 1: asking for financial health from family or friends, or skipping
[12:52] Speaker 1: meals or pawning items to get by. Yeah that's Elbow's Australia.
[12:58] Speaker 1: While Australians showed moderate confidence in the health system, only
[13:02] Speaker 1: one in three felt confident they could actually afford to
[13:05] Speaker 1: do it. Let me show you a bunch of questions
[13:08] Speaker 1: broken down inside this survey. Let me talk you through
[13:11] Speaker 1: the colors. Here the bright blue, the light blue, too expensive,
[13:16] Speaker 1: the middle section there on its way to purple, I'm
[13:19] Speaker 1: too busy, and the outright to morone there was the
[13:22] Speaker 1: service wasn't available at the time. So sixty seven percent
[13:25] Speaker 1: of people say the reason they didn't go to the
[13:26] Speaker 1: dentist kachin too expensive, the reason they didn't see a
[13:31] Speaker 1: doctor basically even between there wasn't the ability to actually
[13:34] Speaker 1: talk to one or the cost of it thirty six
[13:37] Speaker 1: thirty seven percent of people saying it was too expensive.
[13:40] Speaker 1: But hang on, I thought we had an election and
[13:41] Speaker 1: there was a guy holding up a green card. What
[13:45] Speaker 1: about people who don't go and get the tests that
[13:47] Speaker 1: they are told to by their doctor because it might
[13:49] Speaker 1: lead through to specialist appointments. Again, almost fifty percent of
[13:51] Speaker 1: people saying why not because it's too expensive. And as
[13:54] Speaker 1: to why people aren't filling scripts, yes, both sides of
[13:57] Speaker 1: politics promised cheaper medicines and there's been some movement on this,
[14:01] Speaker 1: but fifty four percent of people remember a survey of
[14:03] Speaker 1: how many thousand people? Five one hundred people saying that
[14:07] Speaker 1: the cost of scripts is part of the reasons why
[14:09] Speaker 1: they are not actually getting involved in paying them off. Now,
[14:15] Speaker 1: let's talk about social media and the social media ban
[14:19] Speaker 1: of course, which kicked in in December, was supposed to
[14:21] Speaker 1: cause or stop all of the threats to our kids. Well,
[14:24] Speaker 1: we get a little bit of an update today, which means,
[14:27] Speaker 1: I hope you're sitting down because you're about to see
[14:28] Speaker 1: the Minister for Freebie's the one who's got so many
[14:30] Speaker 1: free tickets that she's got tickets on herself, the future
[14:32] Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Australia, Ladies and gentlemen, the greatest of
[14:35] Speaker 1: all time, Anika Wells.
[14:39] Speaker 9: As of early March, five million social media accounts have
[14:43] Speaker 9: been deactivated or removed.
[14:46] Speaker 1: That's what she's promising, that the five minion accounts which
[14:49] Speaker 1: were there for people under the age of sixteen have
[14:51] Speaker 1: now gone. But then somebody who was rather eager eyed
[14:54] Speaker 1: worked out that the report which was also released today
[14:57] Speaker 1: showed no change whatsoever in the number of kids that
[15:01] Speaker 1: are still saying that they are being bullied by other
[15:05] Speaker 1: kids on mobile phones.
[15:08] Speaker 10: In the report, it says children at age under sixteen continue
[15:11] Speaker 10: to report home to E Safety There's not been a
[15:13] Speaker 10: discernible drop in overall numbers. It also says we have
[15:16] Speaker 10: not observed a notable change in the number of cybergling
[15:18] Speaker 10: and image based abuse complaints in this period. I mean,
[15:21] Speaker 10: what's your response to that, because that's quite concerning.
[15:24] Speaker 9: We are providing transparently the update from the A Safety Commissioner.
[15:28] Speaker 9: We would have liked to see a drop in those figures, absolutely,
[15:30] Speaker 9: and the fact that we're not seeing a drop in
[15:32] Speaker 9: those figures is why I'm here telling you we are
[15:34] Speaker 9: moving from investigation to enforcement because big tech needs to
[15:37] Speaker 9: do better and we need to see those figures go down.
[15:40] Speaker 1: Now. I don't have a problem with the social media
[15:41] Speaker 1: band because obviously, as a person with kids who don't
[15:45] Speaker 1: have those accounts and not old enough for them yet,
[15:47] Speaker 1: I'm glad that that's not going to be an option
[15:48] Speaker 1: that's going to be on the table. But remember what
[15:50] Speaker 1: all the big promises were in and around this piece
[15:53] Speaker 1: of legislation. Oh no, But now we just deserve to
[15:56] Speaker 1: give the person responsible for the system credit because she's
[15:58] Speaker 1: telling us kinder how the system is not actually doing
[16:03] Speaker 1: what she promised it to be. She says that there
[16:07] Speaker 1: are at least five social media companies that are not
[16:09] Speaker 1: doing enough to keep per people off those platforms, so
[16:13] Speaker 1: they're going to be going after them in the next
[16:15] Speaker 1: little while. But again, if Anika Well was there to
[16:16] Speaker 1: fix it, woofh just look at Age Care. She'll get
[16:20] Speaker 1: there eventually. And speaking of the Minister for freebies, there's
[16:27] Speaker 1: a little more in and around politicians and freebies that
[16:30] Speaker 1: we need to talk about.
[16:31] Speaker 11: I'm so happy I'm the sportsmensa future Prime Minister Anika
[16:36] Speaker 11: wells we learn via the Herald Sun today that the
[16:39] Speaker 11: Premier of Victoria, Justinter Allen, and a whole bunch of
[16:42] Speaker 11: labor MPs they got an awful lot of freebies they have.
[16:44] Speaker 1: Now declared, including free tickets to go and see Oasis
[16:48] Speaker 1: when they played in Melbourne last year. Premier just Cinter
[16:51] Speaker 1: Allen received six free tickets to the Oasis concert in Melbourne,
[16:54] Speaker 1: which was also attended by a large range of labor MPs.
[16:57] Speaker 1: The musical freebies were revealed in Miss Allen's updated Register
[17:00] Speaker 1: of interests, which was published in Parliament today. The line
[17:04] Speaker 1: on them declared six tickets to the Oasis concert, but
[17:08] Speaker 1: it's not clear how much the tickets were worth. Why
[17:10] Speaker 1: because tickets went anywhere from four hundred dollars up to
[17:15] Speaker 1: four hundred dollars for the concert, which was held in
[17:17] Speaker 1: front of sixty thousand people. Miss Allen was not alone
[17:21] Speaker 1: at the performance, by the way, her deputy was there.
[17:25] Speaker 1: They got two tickets. A minister also got tickets. There
[17:28] Speaker 1: was a Western Summers backbench mp also got tickets, also
[17:32] Speaker 1: happy to take the free tickets, as well as the
[17:34] Speaker 1: potential Premiere of Victoria, Jess Wilson. Because you know who
[17:38] Speaker 1: knows whether we're going to win an election or not.
[17:40] Speaker 1: But free tickets to Oasis, yes please? And why do
[17:44] Speaker 1: I mention Anika Wells the greatest politician of all time?
[17:46] Speaker 1: I mean every problem she sees, she's sort of bow
[17:49] Speaker 1: and levels of excellence in terms of her ability to
[17:52] Speaker 1: solve a problem. Well, because she's connected to the story.
[17:55] Speaker 1: Because remember Anika Wells Minister for freebies. One of the
[18:00] Speaker 1: things that she went to for free was Oasis, but
[18:04] Speaker 1: she didn't do it in her hometown in Brisbane. Instead,
[18:07] Speaker 1: she was a guest of Events New South Wales to
[18:10] Speaker 1: attend the event in Sydney. Nothing to do with being
[18:14] Speaker 1: the Sports Minister, nothing to do with being the Communications Minister.
[18:17] Speaker 1: Just a chance to get the greatest politician of our era,
[18:22] Speaker 1: a future prime minister, to get a nice free ticket
[18:26] Speaker 1: because of course you give her a free ticket, she'll
[18:29] Speaker 1: be happy. And that wasn't one in Brisbane because of
[18:31] Speaker 1: course they weren't playing in Brisbane. But interestingly, some questions
[18:35] Speaker 1: are still being asked about Annika Wells and about how
[18:37] Speaker 1: she was able to somehow skip through this lunacy. In fact,
[18:41] Speaker 1: she was on with Peter Stephanovick this morning and what
[18:43] Speaker 1: about her again pretending that she's the victim because you
[18:46] Speaker 1: know any of the first of because it works hard.
[18:50] Speaker 9: It was a big year last year. The social media
[18:53] Speaker 9: ban was huge. We'd had the election. I hadn't seen
[18:57] Speaker 9: my family. I am also the Congs minister. It was
[19:00] Speaker 9: really nice to spend some days watching those big sporting
[19:04] Speaker 9: events on the couch with my kids.
[19:05] Speaker 12: I mean, you were much quieter than usual. There was
[19:08] Speaker 12: a political problem for you to handle though, right.
[19:12] Speaker 9: Thanks for agreeing. I work hard. I've certainly been at
[19:15] Speaker 9: heaps of sporting events across the summer. It's indisputable.
[19:20] Speaker 1: Now let us talk about a disaster of another kind,
[19:23] Speaker 1: and that is, of course, the tropical cyclone which has
[19:25] Speaker 1: made its way across the North. I know I'm a
[19:27] Speaker 1: couple of days late talking about it, but I just
[19:28] Speaker 1: wanted to say I see you Western Australia, and I
[19:30] Speaker 1: obviously see everything that happen in next mouth. This was
[19:33] Speaker 1: an absolute thumper. The airport has been obliterated two hundred
[19:38] Speaker 1: and fifty kilometer and our winds three hundred and fifty
[19:42] Speaker 1: mills of rain. Here's some of the locals reporting about
[19:46] Speaker 1: one hell of a weekend. It's trash that joined it's trash. Yeah,
[19:50] Speaker 1: pretty pretty scary, pretty loud.
[19:53] Speaker 4: In hindsight, I know it's because there's the reefs on
[19:56] Speaker 4: the neighbor's house.
[19:57] Speaker 3: We were staying in that room, so we saw I
[19:59] Speaker 3: work up, so it sort of hanging, and then an
[20:01] Speaker 3: hour later it was down.
[20:02] Speaker 13: It's pretty daunting just seeing everything turned upside down like that.
[20:06] Speaker 4: But when you see some of the homes of that
[20:08] Speaker 4: ruth ripped off and the ceiling's gone, you realize is
[20:10] Speaker 4: how lucky you are again.
[20:12] Speaker 1: Strength and love to everyone who was affected by that,
[20:13] Speaker 1: all the way from the Cape, the Northern Territory and
[20:16] Speaker 1: then the tip of Western Australia. Now let us talk
[20:20] Speaker 1: about some of the crazy that's happening in the United States.
[20:22] Speaker 1: Wonderful part of the world. But the people who lost
[20:25] Speaker 1: the last presidential election or they're not happy because obviously
[20:29] Speaker 1: the country, you know, democratically chose the wrong guy. Right
[20:32] Speaker 1: Orange man band here he is baby.
[20:34] Speaker 14: Aha.
[20:35] Speaker 1: We knew everything would be so much better I Kamala
[20:37] Speaker 1: was in charge. Oh yeah, wouldn't it be? Well? As
[20:40] Speaker 1: you know, there was a protest over the weekend because
[20:41] Speaker 1: they're against kings. Okay, now, what were some of the
[20:46] Speaker 1: things that were being said in the coverage of the
[20:48] Speaker 1: No King's protest, as the people who never voted for
[20:51] Speaker 1: Trump took to the streets to say, don't vote for Trump. Okay,
[20:56] Speaker 1: here's a temper tantrum.
[20:58] Speaker 11: You have three governments equal in like power to check
[21:03] Speaker 11: each other, and there's none of that right now.
[21:05] Speaker 1: And that's so disgusted to first protest.
[21:08] Speaker 8: I'm not trying to us.
[21:11] Speaker 1: Let's go wrong. You take a little breather on the floor,
[21:13] Speaker 1: a little bit. That's for a second.
[21:15] Speaker 12: It's hot out there.
[21:15] Speaker 10: What's your name, ah Barb Delahi.
[21:17] Speaker 13: It's really nice to meet you.
[21:19] Speaker 4: I'm Jacob. Thanks.
[21:20] Speaker 1: So much important news covered everywhere right now. Of course,
[21:27] Speaker 1: the political circumstances that had started to go bad for
[21:31] Speaker 1: Republicans had been accelerated by the events of the past
[21:33] Speaker 1: couple of weeks. For a whole bunch of reasons. I've
[21:35] Speaker 1: shown you those opinion polls. And while I don't want
[21:38] Speaker 1: the Democrats anywhere near power, the likelihood of them at
[21:41] Speaker 1: least being able to pick up the House probable at
[21:44] Speaker 1: this stage. Likelihood of them being able to take over
[21:46] Speaker 1: the Senate, yeah, possible. If that's the case. Not only
[21:49] Speaker 1: do all pieces of legislation stop. But the president's ability
[21:53] Speaker 1: to be able to appoint judges and replace people who
[21:56] Speaker 1: come and go from his cabinet basically grinds to a halt.
[21:58] Speaker 1: And we don't want the United State. It's groining to
[22:00] Speaker 1: a halt for the best part of two years. But
[22:04] Speaker 1: the polls aren't great for Republicans right now. And the
[22:07] Speaker 1: dietyennalyst at CNN, you know that highly excitable guy, Harry Inton, Well,
[22:11] Speaker 1: he is pointing out just how many impeace, i'n't even
[22:13] Speaker 1: going to run for reelection because I think they'll lose.
[22:17] Speaker 14: House Republicans are running for the exits faster than kids
[22:21] Speaker 14: do on the final day of school. I mean, just
[22:22] Speaker 14: take a look here, Oh hello, most House retirement since
[22:26] Speaker 14: nineteen hundred and thirty.
[22:27] Speaker 15: So far this cycle already thirty six, thirty six. That
[22:32] Speaker 15: is the grand record over the last nearly one hundred years.
[22:35] Speaker 15: My goodness, gracious, that actually beats the former record in total.
[22:39] Speaker 14: Which was thirty four back in the twenty eighteen cycle.
[22:42] Speaker 14: And that wasn't that long ago, and I do recall
[22:45] Speaker 14: that was a very very good year for House Democrats.
[22:48] Speaker 14: The bottom line is this, you don't run for the
[22:50] Speaker 14: exits unless you know trouble is brewing and House Republicans
[22:55] Speaker 14: so far, I believe trouble is absolutely brewing.
[22:59] Speaker 1: By the way, two things. Don't you love when people
[23:01] Speaker 1: get very excited when you can see the two numbers? Right?
[23:03] Speaker 1: And I think this every time we stand up and
[23:05] Speaker 1: go through numbers. I want to make sure there's lots
[23:07] Speaker 1: of numbers, but I love when they get excited when
[23:08] Speaker 1: there's two numbers you can see that one is slightly
[23:10] Speaker 1: bigger than the other one. He's going Nu's about thirty six.
[23:13] Speaker 1: There are hundreds of members of Congress in the United States.
[23:16] Speaker 1: But the point being made is the one being made.
[23:19] Speaker 1: And by the way, just back to the no Kings thing,
[23:21] Speaker 1: and all of that is about of course, you know,
[23:23] Speaker 1: he doesn't believe in democracy. Democracy is under threat. Remember
[23:25] Speaker 1: all that crap. Well, firstly, there was an election to
[23:28] Speaker 1: get rid of him, there was an election to rehire him,
[23:32] Speaker 1: and all of that seemed to work. Okay, there have
[23:35] Speaker 1: been midterms in between, and there'll be another election in November.
[23:38] Speaker 1: But for those that want to take to the streets
[23:40] Speaker 1: no Kings hating Donald Trump, of course he'll never leave office.
[23:43] Speaker 1: They say, well, could somebody tell his son because Eric
[23:47] Speaker 1: Trump has released today the renderings of what will be
[23:51] Speaker 1: the Trump Presidential Library. It will take place in Miami,
[23:55] Speaker 1: in Florida. So if he's planning to never leave office,
[23:58] Speaker 1: normally these things wouldn't be announced. But I think he's
[24:01] Speaker 1: going to leave when everything finishes in twenty twenty eight.
[24:06] Speaker 1: But here is a look at a very special Trump
[24:09] Speaker 1: Tower that you'll be able to visit one day. The
[24:27] Speaker 1: gold Statue. The gold statue is the lovely touch. Yeah,
[24:29] Speaker 1: I'm gladly go. There a lot of presidential libraries. They're
[24:31] Speaker 1: cool all right now speaking of politics, but here and
[24:35] Speaker 1: very local too, the very southern part of New South Wales,
[24:39] Speaker 1: the seat of Farrer. As you know, Susan Lee has
[24:41] Speaker 1: retired from the parliament after losing the Liberal leadership, so
[24:46] Speaker 1: there's going to be a by election. By election is
[24:48] Speaker 1: on the ninth of May. But on Tuesday, the fifth
[24:51] Speaker 1: of May, we are going to have a pub test
[24:53] Speaker 1: where the Community Independent or Teal will be joining us
[24:57] Speaker 1: along with the One Nation, the Liberal and the National candidates.
[25:02] Speaker 1: If you have a question, if you live in the area,
[25:05] Speaker 1: please send me an email. Will be an Aubrey Tuesday,
[25:07] Speaker 1: the fifth of May. Pub tested sky news dot com.
[25:10] Speaker 1: That are you pub tested sky news dot com dot au, name,
[25:13] Speaker 1: contact detail, all the rest of it and the question
[25:15] Speaker 1: that you would like to ask. Okay, they'll be there.
[25:18] Speaker 1: The Community Independent otherwise known as the Teal one Nation
[25:22] Speaker 1: libs NAT's all there with their candidates. You will be
[25:26] Speaker 1: representing the good people who live there. Pub testedt sky
[25:28] Speaker 1: news dot com dot Au. So we are just getting
[25:32] Speaker 1: started and there's an awful lot to talk about tonight,
[25:34] Speaker 1: including the plan that I told you about just after
[25:37] Speaker 1: the federal election, which now sends will have been bopped
[25:39] Speaker 1: on the head growing the parliaments. Thankfully Angus Taylor was
[25:43] Speaker 1: onto this today the Prime Minister forced into a backflip.
[25:48] Speaker 1: That'll be two from two pon Minister, thank you so
[25:55] Speaker 1: much for watching Shawn Bell as the One Nation senator
[25:57] Speaker 1: representing New South Wales. Linda Scott an awful lot of
[26:00] Speaker 1: work in local government and she represents herself as a
[26:04] Speaker 1: passionate labor person here each and every week. Loving to
[26:06] Speaker 1: see you both. So let's talk about to where Chris
[26:09] Speaker 1: Means went today. I was rather interested to see this Sean,
[26:12] Speaker 1: which was that he is of those who believe that
[26:15] Speaker 1: the fuel crisis is an opportunity to flip as much
[26:18] Speaker 1: as possible towards electric, electric vehicles, etc. He's part of
[26:21] Speaker 1: what the premier in New South Wales had to say today.
[26:25] Speaker 4: I have to start taking decisions now so as when
[26:27] Speaker 4: I'll continually roiled by conflicts in the Middle East, of
[26:31] Speaker 4: which we have limited, if any control over. So that
[26:35] Speaker 4: means more electric vehicles, it means more charging stations, it
[26:39] Speaker 4: means more practical ways that we can look to the
[26:42] Speaker 4: future of our economy.
[26:44] Speaker 1: Now sure, and this is one of those interesting ones
[26:46] Speaker 1: right There are plenty of people who also say it
[26:47] Speaker 1: gives us an opportunity to drill more and to be
[26:49] Speaker 1: more self sufficient, to make sure that the machines that
[26:52] Speaker 1: have not made the change towards electrification will be able
[26:55] Speaker 1: to work. But what did you think of your home
[26:57] Speaker 1: state premier.
[26:58] Speaker 13: Today, Paul, I think very clearly, if you're interested in
[27:03] Speaker 13: Australia's capacity to stand us on two feet, you don't
[27:06] Speaker 13: get there with Chinese made electric cars. You get there
[27:10] Speaker 13: by scrapping their zero You get there by investing in
[27:12] Speaker 13: our natural resources, building more Qulifi power stations and then
[27:15] Speaker 13: actually investing in policies that give us that sovereignty, the
[27:19] Speaker 13: fuel storage, the refining and drilling. That's the way you
[27:23] Speaker 13: do it.
[27:24] Speaker 1: And you don't do it.
[27:24] Speaker 13: With Chinese solar panels and Chinese batteries and Chinese made
[27:27] Speaker 13: electric cars, that's for.
[27:28] Speaker 16: Sure, Bellerluja Linda, Well, look, if you follow Sean's advice,
[27:33] Speaker 16: then your power bills will go up, up and up
[27:36] Speaker 16: really badly. And so I don't agree with what he's saying.
[27:40] Speaker 16: My family has an electric car pool, We've had it
[27:42] Speaker 16: for a number of years now, and I think it
[27:44] Speaker 16: is really important that those people who can access those
[27:47] Speaker 16: kinds of things make a decision at a household level
[27:50] Speaker 16: where you can to procure them, so that you can
[27:53] Speaker 16: take the pressure off those people, particularly now, who need
[27:55] Speaker 16: access to diesel and fuel. I mean again, I've said
[27:58] Speaker 16: it on a number of occasions this show. My heart
[28:01] Speaker 16: is absolutely going out to all the farmers and other people,
[28:04] Speaker 16: especially in regional Australia, who need access to diesel, who
[28:08] Speaker 16: need access to fuel, and those of us like me
[28:11] Speaker 16: who live in the inner city of Sydney who can
[28:13] Speaker 16: catch public transport, who can have an EV We should
[28:16] Speaker 16: be leaning in and not using that precious diesel, not
[28:20] Speaker 16: using that precious fuel. It's good to see the government
[28:23] Speaker 16: cracking down with the A triple C on people who
[28:25] Speaker 16: are price gouging. It's good to see them doubling those fines.
[28:29] Speaker 16: It's good to see everyone talking about what they can
[28:32] Speaker 16: do to support those of our friends in the regions.
[28:35] Speaker 16: But I think shoran solution which is for people to
[28:38] Speaker 16: just kind of throw their hands up and ignore, you know,
[28:42] Speaker 16: the regions and their need for this and undertake.
[28:46] Speaker 17: Expensive zero actually do something to take expensive, expensive infrastructure
[28:53] Speaker 17: projects that are not yet approved, not yet built, and
[28:56] Speaker 17: which will do nothing statue projects that will actually bring
[28:59] Speaker 17: down the cost of living, bring out the price of electricity,
[29:01] Speaker 17: it would Well, we've seen what labour's.
[29:04] Speaker 7: Policies have done.
[29:04] Speaker 13: We've seen what labor policy has done, which have massively
[29:07] Speaker 13: driven up the price of electricity, massively driven up the
[29:09] Speaker 13: cost of living, and have actually led to us being
[29:11] Speaker 13: in a fuel crisis because they were horribly unprepared to
[29:14] Speaker 13: deal with the consequences of for we're just completely exposed.
[29:17] Speaker 13: So that's where labor policies have left us. That's where
[29:20] Speaker 13: labor policies of lefters.
[29:21] Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the plan which seems to
[29:24] Speaker 1: have been bopped on the head. But who knows who knows? Remember,
[29:27] Speaker 1: of course, labor always finds a way to eventually reheat
[29:31] Speaker 1: these things. I told you after the last federal election
[29:33] Speaker 1: that one of the things they were immediately looking into
[29:36] Speaker 1: was growing the Federal Parliament. Now, firstly this was about
[29:39] Speaker 1: increasing the number of senators, and then of course if
[29:41] Speaker 1: you increase the size of the Senate, that gave the
[29:43] Speaker 1: opportunity to increase the number of Lower House MPs. And
[29:47] Speaker 1: this was good because all those MPs work incredibly hard,
[29:50] Speaker 1: having to talk to all of those little people. So
[29:54] Speaker 1: the man who was there to help ready to suggest this,
[29:57] Speaker 1: in fact did it as late as yesterday as the
[29:59] Speaker 1: Special Minister of State Don Farrell arguing for the bigger parliament.
[30:03] Speaker 18: The population's almost doubled, but the representation has largely stayed
[30:10] Speaker 18: the same. To go back earlier than that, chiefly, Ben
[30:15] Speaker 18: chiffly increased the size of the Parliament in the nineteen
[30:19] Speaker 18: forty so roughly every forty years there's been a reevaluation
[30:23] Speaker 18: of representation. Increasing the size of parliament is what great
[30:30] Speaker 18: labor leaders do.
[30:32] Speaker 1: So just to prove that he's not a great labor leader,
[30:34] Speaker 1: I guess you said not to word of this today.
[30:36] Speaker 1: Anthony Alberinezi, when being asked directly by Angus Taylor, I
[30:39] Speaker 1: support the move for obvious reasons, Linda. Your thoughts here,
[30:43] Speaker 1: because you do many an MP who say, well, we've
[30:45] Speaker 1: got so many constituents really hard to get around, as
[30:48] Speaker 1: if somehow the technology for their ability to communicate hasn't
[30:52] Speaker 1: changed over the past forty years.
[30:54] Speaker 16: Look, I hear you that their ability to communicate has improved,
[30:58] Speaker 16: but I do think that more presentation is actually a
[31:01] Speaker 16: good idea for the Australian Federal Parliament. I also think
[31:04] Speaker 16: that this is a recommendation that's come out of a
[31:06] Speaker 16: bipartisan parliamentary committee. So you know, Labor and Liberal both
[31:10] Speaker 16: supported the idea to increase the number of MPs the
[31:14] Speaker 16: number of senators as per our constitution allows here in
[31:17] Speaker 16: Australia into the parliament. So I think that would be
[31:20] Speaker 16: a welcome step forward. I think it is really important
[31:23] Speaker 16: that we have a public debate about it. I think
[31:25] Speaker 16: it's fantastic that Senator Don Farrell was in the press
[31:28] Speaker 16: club today having a public conversation with people talking about
[31:32] Speaker 16: the results of the report. This is a big decision
[31:34] Speaker 16: for the Australian Parliament and it should be made in
[31:37] Speaker 16: a very public and open and transparent way. Sure, but
[31:40] Speaker 16: personally I support it. I think Australian should have more
[31:43] Speaker 16: access to democracy and their democratic representatives generally.
[31:47] Speaker 1: The sun having more left wing senators from the Act.
[31:51] Speaker 1: Is that going to help our access to democracy?
[31:55] Speaker 13: This policy is not designed to help the Australian people
[32:00] Speaker 13: used to expand the Parliament. Was designed to help the
[32:02] Speaker 13: Labour Party retain power. And if you look at how
[32:04] Speaker 13: it was put forward, it was going to be the
[32:06] Speaker 13: way it's done. It's based on population and it would
[32:08] Speaker 13: be providing more seats to the cities, more seats those
[32:11] Speaker 13: areas of population, providing more seats for Labour to winning
[32:14] Speaker 13: the cities, and less representation in the Lower House to
[32:17] Speaker 13: the regional areas. And so Labor basically seen another way
[32:20] Speaker 13: to make sure that they could gain the system to
[32:23] Speaker 13: help them stay in power, not for the benefit of
[32:24] Speaker 13: the people but for the benefit of the Labour Party.
[32:27] Speaker 13: Now and it's a good thing that this policy is
[32:29] Speaker 13: being knocked on the head absolutely untrue.
[32:31] Speaker 1: But wouldn't that be the case if the Labour parties
[32:32] Speaker 1: currently are winning in the suburbs.
[32:34] Speaker 16: The Labor Party is currently winning everywhere because the Coalition
[32:37] Speaker 16: is not representing anybody in the city and One Nation
[32:42] Speaker 16: is polling better than them. So it's just not true.
[32:45] Speaker 16: It's been recommended by a bipartisan committee sawn out of
[32:48] Speaker 16: the parliament.
[32:49] Speaker 13: If not by One Nation. One Nation did not recommend
[32:51] Speaker 13: to support this.
[32:52] Speaker 16: You're not in the parliament enough to represent people committees
[32:55] Speaker 16: at the moment, and so.
[32:56] Speaker 13: We're getting there. We're getting there. You may well Australia
[33:00] Speaker 13: on the road with that.
[33:00] Speaker 16: But all I'm saying is you can't come on here
[33:03] Speaker 16: and just tell blatant untruths. It was a bipartisan committee
[33:07] Speaker 16: of Labor and Liberal and National representatives that recommended this,
[33:10] Speaker 16: So just at least give people the.
[33:14] Speaker 13: The Liberal and National parties have recommended silly things in
[33:16] Speaker 13: agreements with Labor Party.
[33:18] Speaker 1: I was going to say, I think you're playing to
[33:19] Speaker 1: a potential strength of the offering in and around One Nation.
[33:22] Speaker 1: But again, Sean, let's talk about this working class shift.
[33:26] Speaker 1: And it's something that again when we showed in the
[33:28] Speaker 1: Sky News Pulse right that the number one choice by
[33:33] Speaker 1: working class voters in Australia is One Nation, not the
[33:36] Speaker 1: Labor Party. In the outer suburban areas, it is one nation,
[33:41] Speaker 1: not the Labor Party. In rural areas, it is one
[33:45] Speaker 1: nation not the Labor Party. With millennials believe it, or
[33:48] Speaker 1: it's one nation not the Labor Party. Obviously, South Australia
[33:53] Speaker 1: showed us that it's not just polling, it's about elections
[33:56] Speaker 1: as well here. But what would be an example of
[33:59] Speaker 1: one nation policy that you think would specifically help working
[34:04] Speaker 1: class voters in particular.
[34:08] Speaker 13: Paul, Two of the policies that we've pushed at a
[34:10] Speaker 13: really high level scrapping Net zero and ending mass migration
[34:13] Speaker 13: at a high level, those are things that directly help
[34:16] Speaker 13: working class Australians. But you go beyond that. We've got
[34:18] Speaker 13: some really targeted policies. We've got income splitting for families
[34:23] Speaker 13: that'll take the pressure off couples struggling to pay bills.
[34:26] Speaker 13: We've also got things like attend but we want to
[34:27] Speaker 13: remove GST from building materials. We want to help tradees
[34:31] Speaker 13: build homes, we want to help families renovate. We've also
[34:33] Speaker 13: got policies to remove everyday taxes like those you find
[34:36] Speaker 13: on beers at our pubs and clubs, so that we
[34:38] Speaker 13: can help those small businesses and help ease people's night
[34:41] Speaker 13: out costs. You know, One Nation is every day we're
[34:44] Speaker 13: looking for new ways to ensure that every day Aussies
[34:47] Speaker 13: have more money in their pockets and less money going
[34:49] Speaker 13: to the government or less money being sucked up and wasted.
[34:52] Speaker 13: We've tried really hard to make that and I think
[34:54] Speaker 13: that's why you're seeing people have seen these policies, they've
[34:56] Speaker 13: seen these ideas, and the supports growing as a result.
[34:59] Speaker 1: See. The reason I asked you in that question that
[35:01] Speaker 1: way is because often you will say that there is
[35:05] Speaker 1: no meat on the bone. Well, there's some pretty interesting
[35:07] Speaker 1: meat on the bone, isn't there. If you're a working
[35:09] Speaker 1: class voter.
[35:10] Speaker 16: Well, look, I mean I think the One Nation history
[35:12] Speaker 16: has shown that. Unfortunately, they announce policies here on Sky
[35:17] Speaker 16: News and then they go to Canberra and go to
[35:19] Speaker 16: our Federal Parliament and vote in completely the opposite way.
[35:22] Speaker 16: And so we've seen that time after time again with
[35:25] Speaker 16: same job, same pay laws. One Nation has stood in
[35:27] Speaker 16: the Federal Parliament and voted to say, yeah, if you
[35:31] Speaker 16: work for one company and you're doing the same job
[35:34] Speaker 16: as a Quantus flight attendant, you should get paid less.
[35:37] Speaker 16: If you work for a mining company and you're getting
[35:40] Speaker 16: paid less than someone who does exactly the same job
[35:43] Speaker 16: in another mining company. You should get paid less. This
[35:46] Speaker 16: is the kind of thing that one nation have done.
[35:49] Speaker 16: They voted against energy bill relief that Labor has put
[35:53] Speaker 16: to the parliament and one nation has opposed. They've voted
[35:56] Speaker 16: against investment in housing. All these things are good for
[36:02] Speaker 16: working people. All these things are now good for working
[36:05] Speaker 16: people because Labor has put these bills through the parliament,
[36:08] Speaker 16: enacted these changes and are delivering on our commitments. But
[36:11] Speaker 16: one nation just continues.
[36:13] Speaker 13: To a series of policies and driven up inflation, driven
[36:17] Speaker 13: up cost of living prices, driven up electricity prices. You
[36:20] Speaker 13: can try and frame one.
[36:21] Speaker 16: Nation interrupt you to ask you the courtesy to let
[36:25] Speaker 16: me finish. You go to Canberra and you go.
[36:28] Speaker 13: I want to rupt if you don't start putting words
[36:30] Speaker 13: in my mouth and verbally in one nation's positions. So
[36:33] Speaker 13: if we we've well courtesy returned, do.
[36:35] Speaker 16: You deny that you voted against those bills in the
[36:38] Speaker 16: Federal Parliament? Paul and Hanson voted against those bills. On
[36:43] Speaker 16: your behalf. People deserve to know the truth about one nation.
[36:47] Speaker 1: All right, Well, there will be much, much discussion, much
[36:49] Speaker 1: debate between now and then all right, just last one here.
[36:52] Speaker 1: I want to talk about freebies and I want to
[36:54] Speaker 1: talk about where one draws the line here. Sean, what's
[36:59] Speaker 1: your thought around these things, because obviously I just in
[37:01] Speaker 1: to Alan, she's off getting the Oasis tickets, Anika, well's
[37:05] Speaker 1: getting the Oasis tickets. What's your attitude towards these sorts
[37:09] Speaker 1: of things. Is it about real time disclosure or is
[37:12] Speaker 1: it about just saying no to this stuffy Paul.
[37:17] Speaker 13: I think if we're going to talk about freebes that
[37:19] Speaker 13: are handing out to I'd say we should look at
[37:22] Speaker 13: what the just CenTra Alarmed government's handed out to the
[37:24] Speaker 13: CFMUU and Victoria, which is fifteen billion dollars worth of
[37:27] Speaker 13: tax pay money. So if we're going to start looking
[37:30] Speaker 13: at freebees, I say start looking at where governments are
[37:32] Speaker 13: handing out freebes to their mates in industries. So I
[37:35] Speaker 13: like the CFMAU because that's where you're seeing the real
[37:37] Speaker 13: damage and the real hurt be done by really devious
[37:40] Speaker 13: and corup labor governments.
[37:43] Speaker 1: Linda, when you're in a scenario and I don't know
[37:45] Speaker 1: what particularly happens at local government, but being a significant
[37:47] Speaker 1: place like Sydney, there may well be plenty of opportunities.
[37:51] Speaker 1: What was your personal way of dealing with that.
[37:54] Speaker 16: Yeah, it's such a good question. I mean, on councils
[37:56] Speaker 16: in New South Wales we were required to disclose things,
[38:00] Speaker 16: and I often disclose things even when I was invited,
[38:02] Speaker 16: even when I didn't accept tickets. So I do think
[38:04] Speaker 16: that disclosure raisime is really important for people to have
[38:08] Speaker 16: confidence in the probity of their publicly elected officials, whether
[38:11] Speaker 16: they're in local, state or federal government. I worked really hard, Paul.
[38:14] Speaker 16: This was a long time ago, so you won't remember,
[38:16] Speaker 16: but the courage the Clover Moore used to have a
[38:21] Speaker 16: million dollar New Year's Eve party on Sydney Harbor, right
[38:25] Speaker 16: down at the point and it was invite only, so
[38:28] Speaker 16: you could only go if you were invited by the
[38:31] Speaker 16: Lord Mayor. It was a million dollar party, and so
[38:34] Speaker 16: I worked really hard. I got tickets to that, and
[38:37] Speaker 16: each year I held a competition for people to enter
[38:40] Speaker 16: to give their best ideas for the future of Sydney,
[38:42] Speaker 16: and then I would give my tickets away and then
[38:44] Speaker 16: I campaigned, really had to get rid of that party,
[38:47] Speaker 16: which I did do actually and redistribute the million dollars
[38:51] Speaker 16: back to you know, fixing our curbs and guttering and
[38:54] Speaker 16: opening new parks and making sure our.
[38:56] Speaker 1: Rubbish redistributed wealth, doing all that good lefty.
[38:58] Speaker 16: Stuff thing that's still than having in the city of Sydney.
[39:01] Speaker 16: So look, I do have strong views about this. I
[39:03] Speaker 16: think if you're an elected office and you want to
[39:05] Speaker 16: go to a concert, you know, great, but buy a ticket.
[39:09] Speaker 16: I took my son to a concert on the weekend
[39:11] Speaker 16: for a delayed Christmas president. We bought our tickets and
[39:14] Speaker 16: went along and had a beautiful time. So I think
[39:18] Speaker 16: it's really important that people have confidence in the public
[39:21] Speaker 16: to see what people are doing when they're elected office
[39:26] Speaker 16: and disclose it, and that should continue. But yeah, I've
[39:29] Speaker 16: got some history on getting rid of big expensive.
[39:31] Speaker 1: Parties, Senator future senators. Thank you so much to appreciate it.
[39:35] Speaker 1: And apologies if I get your crook in the next
[39:37] Speaker 1: couple of days, Linda, I apologize. A little bit of
[39:39] Speaker 1: cold and flu, a little bit of lurgie is rolling around,
[39:41] Speaker 1: but we'll push through because that's what we do, right Mum.
[39:44] Speaker 1: Mom would always say it was unless you're bleeding, you
[39:46] Speaker 1: go on to school. Son. Guess what, mum My blood
[39:49] Speaker 1: your work more in a second. We'll go to London next.
[39:57] Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching. Wherever you happen to be.
[39:59] Speaker 1: Mark Dolin joins us from the United Kingdom right now.
[40:01] Speaker 1: You can see his program on Talk TV. You can
[40:03] Speaker 1: see his YouTube channel as well. And yes, he's just
[40:06] Speaker 1: as interesting as you think he is by just looking
[40:08] Speaker 1: at the book, looking at the cover. How are you mate?
[40:11] Speaker 1: How have you been? Really?
[40:13] Speaker 12: Good to see you? My goodness. The news cycle just
[40:16] Speaker 12: does not give us a break, does it?
[40:17] Speaker 1: Never? Never? Never? All right, let's talk about what's happening
[40:20] Speaker 1: when it comes to Donald Trump and Iran. Now again,
[40:24] Speaker 1: you know he's trying to keep all options on the table,
[40:26] Speaker 1: all right, And I know some people sort of instantly, oh,
[40:28] Speaker 1: this is all about confusion with no. On one hand,
[40:30] Speaker 1: he wants to say, are we negotiating, yes? Is the
[40:32] Speaker 1: negotiation going well? Yes? Does he also want to show
[40:36] Speaker 1: that if he needs to and give him a slap around,
[40:38] Speaker 1: he's going to have the troops to be able to
[40:41] Speaker 1: do so, and to do so quickly. I don't have
[40:43] Speaker 1: a problem with him having those two options. I hope,
[40:48] Speaker 1: for the sake of the quagmire of things that the
[40:51] Speaker 1: boots on the ground is quick and fast, because we
[40:55] Speaker 1: obviously don't want to repeat of other things. But in fairness,
[40:58] Speaker 1: we're what a month and a bit in, we're not
[41:00] Speaker 1: he knees into this year.
[41:02] Speaker 12: Well, that's right, and Paul, it's my understanding the US
[41:05] Speaker 12: military officials think they need about another four weeks to
[41:10] Speaker 12: unilaterally weaken Iran with further strikes. I got to say,
[41:14] Speaker 12: when it comes to the Iran war, I'm going to
[41:16] Speaker 12: do a Warren Buffett on this, Paul, I'm going to
[41:18] Speaker 12: buy when the.
[41:19] Speaker 1: Stock value is low.
[41:21] Speaker 12: People are starting to have a wobble, but you've got
[41:23] Speaker 12: to see what the bigger prize is for the world.
[41:26] Speaker 12: This is an evil regime. It's arguably that the worst
[41:30] Speaker 12: regime since the Third Reich, and that's been confirmed by
[41:34] Speaker 12: Israelis i've spoken to on my talk TV show. I
[41:37] Speaker 12: had the former Deputy mayor of Jerusalem on the show
[41:41] Speaker 12: two days ago, and she said, this is a noble
[41:43] Speaker 12: war and Iran must be de armed. She was quite
[41:47] Speaker 12: relaxed about regime change. The narrative around regime change has
[41:51] Speaker 12: moved on. It seems the Americans and the Israelis have
[41:53] Speaker 12: accepted that that's not realistic. In the short to medium term,
[41:57] Speaker 12: what is realistic is to remove the teeth from this
[42:00] Speaker 12: dangerous tiger, this global pariah that has threatened world security
[42:06] Speaker 12: for decades. And I almost think that Trump sees himself
[42:09] Speaker 12: as a kind of John Wayne figure in a Western
[42:12] Speaker 12: and Iran you know, is like the kind of the
[42:15] Speaker 12: evil bandits, and we're going to take care of it.
[42:18] Speaker 12: It seems to be essentially a moral cause for Trump.
[42:22] Speaker 12: You know, he's got no skin in the game. Donald
[42:24] Speaker 12: Trump is not going to win a single vote from
[42:26] Speaker 12: this war, and it's costing America deer, which tells me
[42:29] Speaker 12: he thinks it's the right thing to do.
[42:31] Speaker 1: Yeah. I was impressed to see the ideas about potentially
[42:35] Speaker 1: okay in the medium term, perhaps one of the ways
[42:38] Speaker 1: to remove the power of a run in the stratifum
[42:40] Speaker 1: was is to somehow move the pipelines and push it
[42:43] Speaker 1: out the western side of places like Saudi Arabia. Maybe
[42:47] Speaker 1: that is going to happen into the future, but obviously
[42:50] Speaker 1: the next little while the pressure is on. Give me
[42:52] Speaker 1: an idea about the UK, I mean Australia, because we
[42:56] Speaker 1: don't refine an awful lot of oil because it goes
[42:58] Speaker 1: through multiple hands before or it gets to us, the
[43:01] Speaker 1: prices are pretty high. Has there been a major tickup
[43:05] Speaker 1: in things like fuel and gas and heating gas in
[43:09] Speaker 1: the UK?
[43:11] Speaker 12: Absolutely, it is a meltdown when it comes to UK
[43:15] Speaker 12: energy supplies and disasked to the cost the petrol stations,
[43:18] Speaker 12: It's gone through the roof. People are paying twenty thirty
[43:20] Speaker 12: percent more for their petrol. It's crippling for people who
[43:23] Speaker 12: have to drive for a living. It's crippling for families
[43:26] Speaker 12: who are already dealing with inflation, with low growth, unemployment.
[43:32] Speaker 12: So yeah, it's a real pressure. I mean, the world
[43:34] Speaker 12: is feeling it. I know Australians are feeling it, Brits
[43:36] Speaker 12: are feeling it, Americans are feeling it. But it's a
[43:39] Speaker 12: consequence of a very necessary process by which Iran has
[43:43] Speaker 12: to be disarmed. I think you have to look at
[43:45] Speaker 12: the bigger picture here. A few months time, I believe
[43:47] Speaker 12: this is completely resolved. Four weeks for more strikes on Iran.
[43:52] Speaker 12: Of course, the ultimate weapon that Trump has got is
[43:55] Speaker 12: to take carg Island, and that is the nuclear button,
[43:59] Speaker 12: no pun intended. If he gets troops onto car Guyland,
[44:02] Speaker 12: he has got Iran by the short and curlies, and
[44:05] Speaker 12: there will be a deal.
[44:06] Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Now the person who, of course doesn't want
[44:09] Speaker 1: to have anything to do with it, but says, you
[44:10] Speaker 1: can use our basis if you kind of want to
[44:13] Speaker 1: is Keir Starmer. Now you no doubt have already accommented
[44:16] Speaker 1: on this domestically, but let's talk about it here. He
[44:19] Speaker 1: sits down, does a podcast because you know, that's where
[44:21] Speaker 1: the groovy people are. And as we know, he appoints
[44:24] Speaker 1: to the United States to be the United States Ambassador,
[44:27] Speaker 1: a bloke who has well historic and well known ties.
[44:31] Speaker 1: Now going back into the world of Jeffrey Epstein, Now
[44:35] Speaker 1: this almost took his premiership, but almost lost him his job.
[44:39] Speaker 1: But now a few weeks later he's out and about
[44:42] Speaker 1: what about how he frames how he's been very hard
[44:45] Speaker 1: on himself.
[44:46] Speaker 6: Have a look, nobody has been harder on me in
[44:50] Speaker 6: relations to the mistake I made there than me. And
[44:52] Speaker 6: I tell you for why, I've spent years trying to
[44:57] Speaker 6: deal with violence against women and girls, and as I
[45:01] Speaker 6: look back at it now and the mistake I make,
[45:06] Speaker 6: I've been really hard on myself. In the immediate days
[45:08] Speaker 6: after this all came out, I was particularly hard on myself.
[45:12] Speaker 6: So yeah, everybody else was criticizing. I guess all that,
[45:15] Speaker 6: but nobody was criticizing more we more than myself.
[45:20] Speaker 1: Mark What what's going on?
[45:22] Speaker 12: I mean, this guy's even more self obsessed than Megan Markle.
[45:26] Speaker 12: It's all me, me, me, isn't it. This guy is
[45:29] Speaker 12: destroying the country. He's killed the economy. We've got open borders.
[45:33] Speaker 12: Seventy thousand people have entered the United Kingdom illegally since
[45:37] Speaker 12: he became Prime minister. He said he would smash the gangs.
[45:40] Speaker 12: We've got no energy supply. There is an energy crisis.
[45:44] Speaker 12: We've got oil, gas and coal, and we're not exploiting
[45:47] Speaker 12: it at all. The guy's working against the national interest.
[45:50] Speaker 12: He's torn up the special relationship with America, which means
[45:53] Speaker 12: we're toast. If there's a proper war, it's a total time.
[45:55] Speaker 12: And then he just goes on this podcast and it's
[45:58] Speaker 12: like poor me, poor me. No one's buying it. It's
[46:01] Speaker 12: actually an embarrassing display. And this guy, let me tell you, Paul,
[46:04] Speaker 12: he's on borrow time.
[46:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's also one of those ones, right, and no
[46:07] Speaker 1: politicians think. You know, the more I throw of me,
[46:09] Speaker 1: it's something it gets better. Guess what Often the longer
[46:12] Speaker 1: you talk the more we get to see the inner workings,
[46:14] Speaker 1: and they're not good to see. All right, quick one here,
[46:17] Speaker 1: Prince Harry, he wants to be invited over to hang
[46:19] Speaker 1: out with Dad at one of the trillion different estates
[46:22] Speaker 1: this summer, well.
[46:25] Speaker 12: Exactly, and he's expecting an invitation.
[46:27] Speaker 1: Paul.
[46:28] Speaker 12: You would think, wouldn't you, that Harry would be on
[46:30] Speaker 12: his hands and knees groveling. I'm so so sorry for
[46:34] Speaker 12: calling the royal family a bunch of racists, for attacking
[46:37] Speaker 12: the United Kingdom, for attacking the press, for throwing you know,
[46:41] Speaker 12: Camilla under the bus, Charles under the bus, William under
[46:43] Speaker 12: the bus. No, he's expecting invitation to a standrigan, which
[46:47] Speaker 12: is an author a state. The reason why he wants
[46:50] Speaker 12: an invitation is because then the king is responsible for
[46:53] Speaker 12: his security, and that's what this is about, Paul. He
[46:56] Speaker 12: wants to come to the UK. He wants the helicopters,
[46:59] Speaker 12: he wants the outriders and the police with the whistle.
[47:02] Speaker 12: He wants the cop cars, he wants the court of
[47:05] Speaker 12: Prince Harry, and he ain't going to get it.
[47:07] Speaker 1: As long as he doesn't end up with the code
[47:10] Speaker 1: name that they used to give Prince Andrew or former
[47:12] Speaker 1: Prince Andrew. Then we'll all find out together whether the
[47:15] Speaker 1: security truly likes him or not. If you know, you know,
[47:17] Speaker 1: If you don't, don't google it. Thank you, Mark to appreciated.
[47:20] Speaker 1: See you next week, Park Dolan. You can find him
[47:22] Speaker 1: on YouTube The Mark Dolan Show or on talk TV
[47:25] Speaker 1: Quick break Back with more here on Paut Murray Live.
[47:27] Speaker 1: Thanks for watching this Tuesday night late debate about five
[47:30] Speaker 1: from me Now. As you know, I love Queensland and
[47:36] Speaker 1: one of the gateways to it is Brisbane Airport, and
[47:39] Speaker 1: the officials of Brisbane Airport, for some reason this weekend,
[47:42] Speaker 1: decided to release a whole bunch of highlights of weird
[47:45] Speaker 1: moments passengers have at Brisbane Airport. Here was the six
[47:50] Speaker 1: PM News talking about it.
[47:53] Speaker 7: Whether it's walking to the departure gates and colliding with
[47:55] Speaker 7: a boomgate, or desperately clinging to luggage as danger escalates.
[48:00] Speaker 7: Some of the hidden health hazards inside our airport terminal.
[48:03] Speaker 7: Some of more shocking incidents occurring on escalators and travelators,
[48:06] Speaker 7: where thirty percent of airport injuries occur. Elderly passengers getting
[48:11] Speaker 7: twisted up and children tumbling headfirst while parents watch.
[48:16] Speaker 1: I still don't understand why the story was released now
[48:19] Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. Everyone who got hurt got hurt because
[48:22] Speaker 1: it was an accident, right certainly again as people come
[48:26] Speaker 1: on and off those travelators. But if you have not
[48:28] Speaker 1: already been to Briusbane Airport recently, can I tell you
[48:31] Speaker 1: the single best thing about that airport compared to the
[48:34] Speaker 1: rest of the country is that if you have carry
[48:36] Speaker 1: on luggage, there's an entirely separate entrance, not about whether
[48:39] Speaker 1: you're premium or some member of this club or that.
[48:42] Speaker 1: If you have no luggage that goes underneath. There's an
[48:45] Speaker 1: entire check in process that's just for you. God love Brisbane,
[48:50] Speaker 1: God love Brisbane Airport, but not otherwise security gates just
[48:54] Speaker 1: the one if you don't have luggage,

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