# Paul Murray Live | 17 June

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 17 Jun 2026, 49 min.

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Pauline Hanson delivers a speech to the National Press Club, Labor's migration machine rolls on. Plus, Jeremy Clarkson announces diagnosis on show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: From the Sky New Center.
[0:02] Speaker 2: This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Carolyn Labor. Think
[0:08] Speaker 2: they have worked out the weakness in one nation. They
[0:11] Speaker 2: think they have found the hole in the death Star.
[0:14] Speaker 2: I will explain more in a moment or two time.
[0:16] Speaker 2: Fight Night has always on a Wednesday night, and the
[0:18] Speaker 2: wonderful Meg and Kelly is here. She spent the day
[0:21] Speaker 2: with the Vice President of the United States JD. Vance. Now,
[0:25] Speaker 2: as you know, Pauline Hansen made the speech today at
[0:27] Speaker 2: the National Press Club. I will show you what she
[0:30] Speaker 2: actually said as opposed to a lot of sort of
[0:32] Speaker 2: the six PM news quick cutups of things. I'll get
[0:35] Speaker 2: to the get up of everything in a moment or
[0:37] Speaker 2: two's time. But now you love the media. Now, the
[0:39] Speaker 2: media generally speaking, think that the single most important person
[0:42] Speaker 2: in Australian politics is the media because the politicians come
[0:46] Speaker 2: and go, but they stay forever. And obviously the role
[0:49] Speaker 2: of the media is clear in its ability to be
[0:53] Speaker 2: able to spin the ball to help protect a bad government.
[0:56] Speaker 2: We saw that through a couple of elections. We've seen
[0:59] Speaker 2: the nonsense that they have put anyone who is against
[1:02] Speaker 2: this government through. But they of course have been dragged
[1:04] Speaker 2: to reality by this budget and as you know, the
[1:07] Speaker 2: first time since she was elected to the Lower House
[1:10] Speaker 2: thirty years ago, the first time since she was re
[1:13] Speaker 2: elected to the Parliament in two thousand and sixteen, Pauline
[1:16] Speaker 2: Hansen appeared at the National Press Club. This is the
[1:19] Speaker 2: home ground for the left where essentially the speakers who
[1:23] Speaker 2: they like get a free run. Anyone who they don't, well,
[1:26] Speaker 2: they put them through the ringer. And the media was
[1:28] Speaker 2: very excited. They thought this was d Day, This was
[1:31] Speaker 2: the turning point. This was perhaps the tippy top of
[1:34] Speaker 2: the growth of One Nation and it all falls apart
[1:36] Speaker 2: from here.
[1:38] Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson will deliver the biggest speech of her career
[1:41] Speaker 3: today at the National Press Club.
[1:42] Speaker 4: It's shaping up to be an address like no other.
[1:45] Speaker 3: And it's a big day for One Nation with the
[1:47] Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson delivering her inaugural address to the National Press Club.
[1:51] Speaker 3: Today's a poignant moment for the One Nation leader as
[1:53] Speaker 3: she prepares to take the stage.
[1:55] Speaker 2: Okay, settled there. The speech is delivered in the middle
[1:58] Speaker 2: of the day. For those of us that are hard
[2:00] Speaker 2: corese of course, you watched it here alive, it's shown
[2:04] Speaker 2: on the ABC. It gets a big coverage in the
[2:06] Speaker 2: six pm news. But in terms of news coverage, certainly
[2:09] Speaker 2: for a big chunk of the country today is all
[2:11] Speaker 2: about state of origin. The win for one nation is
[2:13] Speaker 2: being able to get fire the liar into a television program.
[2:17] Speaker 2: State of Origin will be watched by millions of people.
[2:20] Speaker 2: But I thought I should actually not show you the
[2:24] Speaker 2: exchange back and forth with the reporters. As much fun
[2:26] Speaker 2: as all of that is, Let's have a look at
[2:28] Speaker 2: the message that she wrote, that she delivered and that
[2:31] Speaker 2: she wanted the country to hear. A long form speech
[2:35] Speaker 2: is something that generally we don't get to see from
[2:37] Speaker 2: many of our political leaders, certainly not playing out live
[2:40] Speaker 2: on television, and she played the hits with a couple
[2:43] Speaker 2: of new ones. Obviously. On migration, she is where the
[2:46] Speaker 2: majority of the country is, which is just too many
[2:50] Speaker 2: have come in too quickly.
[2:52] Speaker 5: Ned overseas migration in the first three years under this
[2:55] Speaker 5: alban easy labor government has totaled one point seven one
[3:00] Speaker 5: point two seven million people. Let me repeat that, one
[3:05] Speaker 5: point two seven million people. Under this current government. That's
[3:10] Speaker 5: more than four hundred and twenty three thousand per year,
[3:14] Speaker 5: a total of more than one point nine million people.
[3:18] Speaker 5: Arrived in Australia from mid twenty twenty two to mid
[3:21] Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. Undeniably, immigration or immigration policy has our
[3:30] Speaker 5: country in the state of crisis. At the center of
[3:34] Speaker 5: this crisis is the utterly flawed policy of multiculturalism. We
[3:41] Speaker 5: cannot be a multicultural society. We are a multi racial society,
[3:49] Speaker 5: but we must be mono cultural. Australians must live under
[3:54] Speaker 5: the one cultural umbrella.
[3:57] Speaker 2: Now already labor MPs are out and about saying wow.
[4:00] Speaker 2: So how boring would a monoculture be? I mean, what
[4:02] Speaker 2: about all that wonderful food that's come from everywhere else?
[4:05] Speaker 2: Come on, does anyone honestly think what is truly being
[4:07] Speaker 2: talked about here is banning of butter chicken? I wouldn't think.
[4:11] Speaker 6: So.
[4:12] Speaker 2: It's about the idea that we have national symbols, like
[4:14] Speaker 2: one flag that represents twenty eight million people, regardless of
[4:19] Speaker 2: weather you've been lucky enough to join the place, or
[4:21] Speaker 2: even luckier to have been born here. It's why I
[4:25] Speaker 2: particularly love Australia Day, because Australia Day, as our national day,
[4:30] Speaker 2: is an opportunity where thousands of people put their hand
[4:34] Speaker 2: up and they commit to this country. The obvious statements
[4:39] Speaker 2: around monoculture is that there is a respect for men
[4:43] Speaker 2: and women. There is non discrimination for people of multiple sexualities.
[4:52] Speaker 2: We believe that the law of the land is higher
[4:56] Speaker 2: than the law of any one church, which brings us
[5:00] Speaker 2: to her comments around radical Islam, an area where people
[5:04] Speaker 2: just don't want to go now. Of course, I don't
[5:07] Speaker 2: know why. Every time you have to have this subject,
[5:09] Speaker 2: you have to say the asterisk. But if you don't,
[5:12] Speaker 2: you get punished. So let's do it now. Of course
[5:16] Speaker 2: we know that there is a substantive difference between Islam
[5:19] Speaker 2: and radical Islam. Radical Islam is something worth talking about.
[5:25] Speaker 2: It's something that was centered by the Senator, by the leader,
[5:28] Speaker 2: by according to the polls, the preferred prime minister today
[5:32] Speaker 2: at that press club.
[5:34] Speaker 5: I am not frightened, and Nora is one nation. There
[5:38] Speaker 5: is no room for hate preachers in this country. If
[5:43] Speaker 5: they have arrived here, they will be deported. If they
[5:47] Speaker 5: were born here, they will face the full force of
[5:50] Speaker 5: the law. While ever I lead the party, I will
[5:56] Speaker 5: not walk away from my commitment to get rid of
[5:58] Speaker 5: social cancer.
[6:01] Speaker 2: Now again, watch how this gets spun, Watch how this
[6:03] Speaker 2: gets washed through, Watch how this becomes a comment on
[6:06] Speaker 2: all migrants, anyone from anywhere else, anyone who's not white.
[6:09] Speaker 6: No.
[6:10] Speaker 2: Again, you know the clarifications, you know the asterisks, And
[6:14] Speaker 2: she went there and how could anyone be supporting the
[6:17] Speaker 2: growth of radical Islam in this country? Again, that is
[6:20] Speaker 2: not a comment on anyone who is of the Islamic faith.
[6:24] Speaker 2: It is the obvious examples that you have seen and
[6:26] Speaker 2: heard with your own eyes. Also credit to Pauline Hansen
[6:32] Speaker 2: for going onto the national stage and talking about what
[6:35] Speaker 2: I have been focused on for a long time. And
[6:38] Speaker 2: I speak, of course of those that are truly left behind.
[6:43] Speaker 2: It is an outrage the three point four million households
[6:46] Speaker 2: in Australia will run out of food this week. It
[6:48] Speaker 2: is an outrage that the federal government spends more money
[6:52] Speaker 2: advertising itself for political reasons than it does in actually
[6:55] Speaker 2: extra support for the charities who are doing the hard
[6:58] Speaker 2: work right now, particularly during this winter. That is a statement, frankly,
[7:04] Speaker 2: of the priorities of a government. And she believes, as
[7:09] Speaker 2: I believe, as I would trust many of you believe
[7:12] Speaker 2: that the priorities of the political class are broken when
[7:16] Speaker 2: the citizens can go in just a few months from
[7:21] Speaker 2: the people who donated to things like food Bank to
[7:23] Speaker 2: people who need food Bank's help.
[7:27] Speaker 5: What kind of Austraia have we become? These figures are
[7:31] Speaker 5: appalling and totally UnAustralian for rich countries such as ours.
[7:36] Speaker 5: Put bluntly, these figures derive because of one policy above
[7:41] Speaker 5: all others, the hoax of global warming, which is now
[7:46] Speaker 5: climate change. It has produced an increase in energy costs
[7:52] Speaker 5: which has taken Australia into energy poverty.
[7:56] Speaker 2: Now, of course the media love talking about the media,
[7:58] Speaker 2: and this is the media's home ground, and this is
[7:59] Speaker 2: the you're in their space right well as always the
[8:04] Speaker 2: person who has had plenty of pylons over plenty of
[8:06] Speaker 2: years knows exactly how to push back. And the reality
[8:11] Speaker 2: that when it comes to trust, most people in the
[8:14] Speaker 2: media are trusted about around a used card dealer.
[8:18] Speaker 5: Every attempt has been made for years to silence me.
[8:22] Speaker 5: In fact, there are always some people, usually a lot
[8:25] Speaker 5: of people who get offended by what I say or do,
[8:30] Speaker 5: even offended by my very existence. I don't feel it,
[8:34] Speaker 5: fear them, I embrace them. But many people aren't like me.
[8:40] Speaker 5: In Australia today, in our democracy, the real tragedy's people
[8:44] Speaker 5: are frightened of what will happen to them if they
[8:47] Speaker 5: just speak up. But now they are finding their courage
[8:52] Speaker 5: to embrace one nation. But what a national tragedy, indeed
[8:56] Speaker 5: a disgrace that many people feel afraid to make the views.
[9:01] Speaker 5: As a result, civil debate is paralyzed, and the media
[9:06] Speaker 5: are complicit in amplifying this fear.
[9:10] Speaker 2: Who can disagree with this? Obviously the media themselves would,
[9:14] Speaker 2: But I'll get to them again in a second. Again,
[9:16] Speaker 2: the joy of a democracy, the joy of the potential monoculture.
[9:21] Speaker 2: Belief in democracy is the ability to speak your mind,
[9:24] Speaker 2: speak it freely, not to incite violence, not to defame,
[9:28] Speaker 2: not to discriminate, all of those things are obvious, but
[9:31] Speaker 2: to be able to say what may be considered unpopular
[9:36] Speaker 2: with the industrial left, which have taken over every institution
[9:39] Speaker 2: from childcare or almost all the way to the grave
[9:43] Speaker 2: in this country. As for a final pitch, well, I'll
[9:46] Speaker 2: let the senator have that say.
[9:48] Speaker 5: I love this country. I'm a patriot and an unashamed nationalist.
[9:55] Speaker 5: I will always put astray and a strands first. One nation.
[9:58] Speaker 5: You want to do, it's best to change this country's direction,
[10:01] Speaker 5: to reassert its failures, to honor its traditions, to reinforce
[10:06] Speaker 5: that we are one nation under one flag, and my
[10:10] Speaker 5: party will put Astraya back on the path to prosperity, security,
[10:14] Speaker 5: independence and freedom. One nation will do everything to help
[10:18] Speaker 5: take this country back for its people. At the moment,
[10:21] Speaker 5: government of this country has become a victim of the
[10:24] Speaker 5: ideology of people who have failed you in the past
[10:28] Speaker 5: and will fail you again.
[10:31] Speaker 2: So obviously the back half of the speech the opportunity
[10:34] Speaker 2: for the media to line up and ask whatever they want,
[10:36] Speaker 2: and in a free country you can ask whatever you want. Amazingly,
[10:40] Speaker 2: there were conversations back and forth about well are we
[10:43] Speaker 2: going to be invited on a bus during the election campaign?
[10:46] Speaker 2: And this does one Nation and Paulin Hanson deserve maximum scrutiny.
[10:50] Speaker 2: Of course why because they're going for the highest positions
[10:52] Speaker 2: of power in the country, no question about that. So
[10:55] Speaker 2: when they have an idea, the media's position should be, well,
[10:58] Speaker 2: hang on, what about this? What about that he was
[11:01] Speaker 2: their first crack at trying to do that?
[11:05] Speaker 7: The other day, you accused the late Tim Fisher of
[11:09] Speaker 7: calling you a which I wonder if you can provide
[11:12] Speaker 7: evidence for your claim, or if not, would you admit
[11:16] Speaker 7: that you might be mistaken.
[11:18] Speaker 8: Taxpayers are paying more than one hundred and fifty thousand
[11:20] Speaker 8: dollars a year for your daughter Lee Hanson to seemingly
[11:23] Speaker 8: campaign full time in Tasmania while employer is a political
[11:26] Speaker 8: advisor for a new South Wales senator. Did you have
[11:29] Speaker 8: any role in appointing her to that position.
[11:31] Speaker 9: I'm wondering if you can walk us through how you
[11:34] Speaker 9: are going about vetting candidates and staff. Does it go
[11:37] Speaker 9: beyond police checks and looking at bankruptcy records? And what
[11:41] Speaker 9: are your red lines for who you'll hire or who
[11:44] Speaker 9: you want to represent?
[11:45] Speaker 10: Well from a party leader in South Australia, Jennifer Gain
[11:47] Speaker 10: won a summary judgment against you in the Adelaide Magistrate's
[11:50] Speaker 10: Court last week for fifteen thousand dollars.
[11:54] Speaker 2: Why did she have to sue.
[11:55] Speaker 10: You to recover what she says were ordinary campaign expenses?
[12:00] Speaker 2: Now like it, dislike it, but okay, adversarial that's fine.
[12:04] Speaker 2: But remember this is the same group of people that being,
[12:07] Speaker 2: of course the Camber Press Gallery and their representatives and
[12:09] Speaker 2: the junior Burgers wanting to replace those senior members who
[12:13] Speaker 2: did not take that attitude towards Albanezi in the twenty
[12:16] Speaker 2: twenty two but most certainly not in the twenty twenty
[12:19] Speaker 2: five election. Yes, there are moments where he was pushed
[12:22] Speaker 2: on negative gearing and you see how that has cost
[12:26] Speaker 2: the Prime Minister to this day. But remember, because I
[12:29] Speaker 2: showed you every single day during the campaign the treatment
[12:33] Speaker 2: of then opposition leader Peter Dudden, where he's basically being
[12:36] Speaker 2: blamed for his father's heart attack. Remember that one versus
[12:40] Speaker 2: these as regular questions multiple times every day to the
[12:44] Speaker 2: bloke that they wanted just to push through to a
[12:47] Speaker 2: second terms.
[12:49] Speaker 11: Have you spoken to Premium Men's about getting the rabbit
[12:52] Speaker 11: o's into Alian statia?
[12:53] Speaker 2: All those issues about the polls and the momentum being
[12:56] Speaker 2: on your side.
[12:57] Speaker 3: Are you concerned though, about the possibility of a protest
[13:00] Speaker 3: emerging that people think that they is going to win
[13:02] Speaker 3: pretty comfortably?
[13:03] Speaker 2: What does it say about your opponent? You think that
[13:05] Speaker 2: he doesn't know the price of eggs?
[13:06] Speaker 12: So pass the halfway point in the campaign. The poles
[13:09] Speaker 12: are increasingly positive for labor.
[13:11] Speaker 1: That's positive for the coalition.
[13:14] Speaker 6: You must be getting confident power if we go into
[13:16] Speaker 6: the find two weeks.
[13:17] Speaker 9: Should the Commonwealth spend anything on helping WA secure an
[13:20] Speaker 9: NRL site?
[13:21] Speaker 1: Your capability.
[13:25] Speaker 2: Right over and over and over and over again. Here's
[13:27] Speaker 2: the point. If you parade yourself as being the people
[13:30] Speaker 2: who are supposedly straight arrows and independent, then okay, give
[13:33] Speaker 2: them all the tough time, all the time. If they
[13:36] Speaker 2: come up with an idea, try to find the hole
[13:38] Speaker 2: in the idea and push at it. But you and
[13:42] Speaker 2: I know that that is not generally the case. It's
[13:44] Speaker 2: only after something as disastrous as the budget, with all
[13:47] Speaker 2: of the polling behind it, that you start to see
[13:49] Speaker 2: some of those confrontations take place. Does one nation deserve
[13:53] Speaker 2: a free ride? No, but does a person who has
[13:57] Speaker 2: been through the ringer, who has literally been to jail,
[14:02] Speaker 2: and then of course that conviction costs thush falsely sent
[14:06] Speaker 2: to jail. A person who has been endlessly demeaned, have
[14:11] Speaker 2: every right to be skeptical of the very people who
[14:14] Speaker 2: have never liked her, who have never seen her, who've
[14:17] Speaker 2: never reached out to her. Yeah, of course we enter
[14:22] Speaker 2: a new phase when you are the preferred prime minister.
[14:25] Speaker 2: There will be more media. You're not able to come
[14:27] Speaker 2: and go as previously has been the case. But those
[14:31] Speaker 2: who think that one question is somehow going to undo
[14:33] Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson do not understand the bond that Pauline Hanson
[14:38] Speaker 2: has with a certain section of Australian voters. Is that
[14:41] Speaker 2: certain section of Australian voters going to be enough to
[14:44] Speaker 2: get a few seats, become the opposition, maybe pushed towards government.
[14:48] Speaker 2: Who knows, I don't know, you don't know, but the
[14:52] Speaker 2: data tells us that is the trajectory. So get ready
[14:56] Speaker 2: for the agro, Get ready for what is going to
[14:58] Speaker 2: be a wild role. But if there's one person who's
[15:01] Speaker 2: up for it, and I'm will be cheering along the way,
[15:03] Speaker 2: it'll be Pauline Hansen. Okay, Now, just as for the
[15:07] Speaker 2: get up thing, right, you know what happened. Somebody went
[15:12] Speaker 2: in before the speech and tried to pull a Banksy. Right,
[15:17] Speaker 2: they've put this thing apparently, this was installed. This is
[15:21] Speaker 2: not something that has been repurposed. This was installed and
[15:24] Speaker 2: you know what took place. Now, of course this becomes
[15:26] Speaker 2: totally counterproductive. Why because yes, it becomes a lovely little
[15:29] Speaker 2: distraction and a giggle for everyone who waits Pauline Hanson.
[15:32] Speaker 2: But for everyone who doesn't, they go, oh really really,
[15:35] Speaker 2: this is supposedly the super serious moment where you're sort
[15:37] Speaker 2: of sitting the entry exam and that's what was going on.
[15:42] Speaker 2: I also found it rather revealing, but nobody intervened but
[15:47] Speaker 2: for seconds and seconds, and it sort of felt like minutes,
[15:50] Speaker 2: but I'm sure it was more like one. And I
[15:54] Speaker 2: feel for Tom because obviously Tom's the head of the
[15:56] Speaker 2: Press club. He's sitting there, he's trying to moderate what's
[15:58] Speaker 2: he supposed to do. But does anyone actually work for
[16:00] Speaker 2: the organization to jump in and actually have jumped in earlier.
[16:04] Speaker 2: But of course when on Pauline, we don't want to
[16:05] Speaker 2: get involved. But there's going to be consequences here.
[16:08] Speaker 4: Now.
[16:09] Speaker 2: Do I want everyone to go to jail who's involved
[16:10] Speaker 2: with this? Of course not. But there's going to be
[16:12] Speaker 2: consequences why because there was unauthorized entry to the building
[16:16] Speaker 2: to install what later. We have all seen the statement
[16:20] Speaker 2: from the Press God that you've heard a few times,
[16:22] Speaker 2: but it's worth repeating for those who haven't. It appears
[16:26] Speaker 2: two persons enter the club building yesterday afternoon without permission.
[16:30] Speaker 2: They install the separate drop down box screen. As you
[16:34] Speaker 2: can see, it's evident a further person present during the
[16:37] Speaker 2: address activated a remote. Now all of this is now
[16:41] Speaker 2: before the federal police. They'll obviously investigate Again, no one's
[16:44] Speaker 2: going to jail, nor do I suggest that they should.
[16:47] Speaker 2: But there has to be a consequence. And at the
[16:49] Speaker 2: very least, if you have an organization in get Up
[16:51] Speaker 2: who said yeah, we did it, they're not allowed back.
[16:55] Speaker 2: They're not allowed back and their representatives aren't allowed back
[16:58] Speaker 2: into the room because they have lost the privilege of
[17:00] Speaker 2: having such physical proximity to power. And again, these protesters
[17:07] Speaker 2: have to be careful because, as it was with the referendum,
[17:12] Speaker 2: once people have started to step through and start to
[17:17] Speaker 2: be at a position where it's either fifty to fifty
[17:19] Speaker 2: or slightly more, that are now starting to look towards
[17:23] Speaker 2: the case that the protesters are fighting against. As an option,
[17:27] Speaker 2: the protesting is counterproductive, remember that stuff last week. They're
[17:31] Speaker 2: allowed to have fundraisers. But the Victorian Socialists and apparently
[17:34] Speaker 2: there are Canberra Socialists that were out there today. Do
[17:36] Speaker 2: they have a right to protest? Sure? But are they
[17:39] Speaker 2: moving anyone who doesn't already hate who's with them?
[17:43] Speaker 9: No?
[17:47] Speaker 2: But interestingly, the prime minister, now, the Prime Minister of course,
[17:52] Speaker 2: is in a world of trouble politically. Right now, you
[17:55] Speaker 2: know all of those numbers, we've shown you, all of
[17:57] Speaker 2: those numbers. I'll show you one of his attempts to
[17:59] Speaker 2: turn it around today. And he of course has this
[18:03] Speaker 2: attitude where he sort of basically is pretending one nation
[18:06] Speaker 2: doesn't exist, and certainly pretending it's not a serious option
[18:09] Speaker 2: for anyone, including some people who voted or preferenced Labor.
[18:12] Speaker 2: The last election, you remember when they hit a couple
[18:14] Speaker 2: of million bucks now four and a bit million dollars
[18:16] Speaker 2: for the fire the liar ad this was the reaction
[18:19] Speaker 2: from the bloke who pretended he didn't fall off the stage.
[18:23] Speaker 4: She smashed him in.
[18:24] Speaker 12: The fundraising race, so she raised more than a million dollars?
[18:27] Speaker 13: Did she though?
[18:29] Speaker 11: Did she?
[18:29] Speaker 4: Though?
[18:30] Speaker 5: Did she?
[18:30] Speaker 2: What evidence is there? Do you believe that Paul has
[18:34] Speaker 2: raised one point reduce the spectability?
[18:37] Speaker 5: Did well?
[18:39] Speaker 2: You work it out now. Obviously, Labor and its supporters, Greens,
[18:44] Speaker 2: the Teals, all the rest of it. They are fine
[18:46] Speaker 2: if one nation replaces the National Party replaces the Liberal Party,
[18:49] Speaker 2: but as long as they are held at arm's length
[18:51] Speaker 2: and have no chance of getting near that magical seventy
[18:53] Speaker 2: six seats. But of course, what has become clear, certainly
[18:57] Speaker 2: in the past few weeks, and I would argue for
[18:58] Speaker 2: the past few months. What happened to the Pharaoh by
[19:01] Speaker 2: election is that there is some shaving that is coming
[19:04] Speaker 2: off the Labor vote. I mean the opinion polls and
[19:08] Speaker 2: the stories that show them have told us here a
[19:10] Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, when one Nation went on top
[19:13] Speaker 2: of the Labour Party to have a higher preference, you
[19:15] Speaker 2: could see the traditional Labor voter base was starting to move.
[19:20] Speaker 2: Just this week again in the Resolve poll, Pauling Hanson
[19:23] Speaker 2: overtaking Anthony Albernezi as the preferred prime minister. So the
[19:27] Speaker 2: worry for the Labor Party is not necessarily the entirety
[19:33] Speaker 2: of the support for one nation. They think that they
[19:35] Speaker 2: can kind of keep eight out of ten of those
[19:37] Speaker 2: people and it doesn't matter, and they can all sit
[19:39] Speaker 2: over there. But it's when they start to lose one
[19:42] Speaker 2: or two percent of their own supporters that being able
[19:45] Speaker 2: to hold onto power becomes a question mark. Certainly, ninety
[19:48] Speaker 2: four seats can very quickly become eighty, five can very
[19:51] Speaker 2: quickly go under eighty. So my cat's whiskers are starting
[19:57] Speaker 2: to notice how Labour's trying to work out how to
[20:01] Speaker 2: come at Pauline Hanson. A failure of GetUp in the
[20:05] Speaker 2: by election in Farah was to whack away at donations,
[20:09] Speaker 2: whack away at racism, all the rest of it. But
[20:13] Speaker 2: the ACTU remember the brawn of the operation, the money
[20:17] Speaker 2: of the operation. Well, they think they have worked out
[20:20] Speaker 2: the way to move people who might have moved out
[20:22] Speaker 2: of the Labor camp to One Nation to come back
[20:25] Speaker 2: to the Labor Party, and that is to focus on
[20:28] Speaker 2: the record of Pauline Hanson and One Nation in the Senate.
[20:33] Speaker 2: Now lots of speeches and lots of advertising is starting
[20:36] Speaker 2: around this, But I wanted to show you something from
[20:38] Speaker 2: social media with the boss of the ACTU, Sally McManus,
[20:42] Speaker 2: because again she is not talking to people who would
[20:45] Speaker 2: never support the Labor Party. She's trying to talk to
[20:49] Speaker 2: the Labor Party person who might be a little One
[20:51] Speaker 2: Nation curious roll this tape.
[20:55] Speaker 14: Some big businesses will always try and cut what was
[20:57] Speaker 14: his owned penalty rates and minimum way the pay people
[21:01] Speaker 14: rely on to get by and guess who backs them
[21:03] Speaker 14: every single time, Pauline Hanson. Back in twenty seventeen, when
[21:08] Speaker 14: penalty rates were being cut, pauland Hanson said out loud
[21:12] Speaker 14: that they should be cut.
[21:14] Speaker 2: Now, there were a lot of One Nation supporters who
[21:17] Speaker 2: pushed back apparently, and the comments section started to fly
[21:19] Speaker 2: and that's bs not true, fake news. So sale McManus
[21:23] Speaker 2: has another go again. This is where labor and its
[21:27] Speaker 2: supporters think there is the weakness in one nation, not
[21:31] Speaker 2: for all the supporters, just for the former labor supporters.
[21:35] Speaker 2: I show you this because we're onto it, and it's
[21:38] Speaker 2: a sign of where they're going to go in the
[21:40] Speaker 2: next two years if one nation grows any further.
[21:45] Speaker 14: Some you don't believe Pauline Hanson would vote against Ozzie workers.
[21:49] Speaker 14: Some of you have been questioning could it be true
[21:51] Speaker 14: and asking for more information. So here it is. These
[21:54] Speaker 14: are all the times one nation voted against Ozzie workers' interests.
[21:58] Speaker 14: Let me just pull out one exit in February twenty
[22:01] Speaker 14: twenty four, the Closing Loopholes laws. These are laws to
[22:04] Speaker 14: make wage left a crime and boosting pay for labor
[22:08] Speaker 14: high workers, amongst other things that all strengthened workers' rights.
[22:12] Speaker 14: On all of that one nation voter.
[22:14] Speaker 2: No, is it the sexiest fire the liar? Nope? Does
[22:20] Speaker 2: it potentially create doubt in a period of time where
[22:23] Speaker 2: the government is going to try to make the most
[22:24] Speaker 2: of that doubt to pull people back into that camp.
[22:26] Speaker 2: Maybe again, I don't know. But I'm trying to show
[22:30] Speaker 2: you not just what's going on in the polls, not
[22:33] Speaker 2: just fire the lyre, not just enjoying the revolution that
[22:38] Speaker 2: is taking place right now because it upsets so many
[22:40] Speaker 2: of the right people. But I want to show how
[22:42] Speaker 2: they're going to fight back, because you know, they've got
[22:44] Speaker 2: the money, they've got the muscle, they've got the institutional support.
[22:49] Speaker 2: That is how they're going to try to fight for
[22:51] Speaker 2: those couple of percent of labor people to come back,
[22:54] Speaker 2: to put labor back on top in terms of the
[22:56] Speaker 2: primary vote, to perhaps pull back when it comes to
[22:59] Speaker 2: preferred prime minister, and to at the very least stop
[23:03] Speaker 2: the bleeding, because the bleeding is happening as we speak,
[23:06] Speaker 2: and the getups of this world where they are trying
[23:08] Speaker 2: to play in the same lane, nowhere near as effective
[23:10] Speaker 2: as potentially what the union movement might be. Don't say
[23:14] Speaker 2: we all weren't collectively warned now about the prime minister.
[23:18] Speaker 2: Of course, greatest prime minister of all time. I mean,
[23:20] Speaker 2: you've just got to look at him at any time,
[23:22] Speaker 2: let alone consult the polls where six out of ten
[23:25] Speaker 2: people are currently dissatisfied with the Prime minister. Sixty two
[23:29] Speaker 2: percent of women are dissatisfied with the Prime minister, fifty
[23:33] Speaker 2: seven percent of men. Currently, sixty five percent of the
[23:37] Speaker 2: working class are dissatisfied with the Prime Minister. But he
[23:41] Speaker 2: thinks he has found a way to recharge, to reset,
[23:44] Speaker 2: and it is to cover himself in the glory of
[23:47] Speaker 2: the soccer Ruse. Now, he's not the first politician to
[23:51] Speaker 2: drape himself in the national colors of a sporting team.
[23:55] Speaker 2: Remember when I showed you this seemingly hostage video from
[23:59] Speaker 2: Sunday night. Well, there's been eighteen and a half thousand
[24:02] Speaker 2: comments on this particular post. Most of them are hilarious,
[24:06] Speaker 2: and most are clearly not ones that his office or
[24:09] Speaker 2: he would be particularly interested in reading. My favorite is
[24:12] Speaker 2: that they hope that they hope that he doesn't toss
[24:14] Speaker 2: the coin because he'll run away with it. Well, he
[24:18] Speaker 2: found a place that wasn't clearly interested in talking about
[24:21] Speaker 2: the budget. One of the bits of the media that well,
[24:23] Speaker 2: he might be able to turn his way. And it's
[24:25] Speaker 2: a pretty good show. In fact, I watch it myself
[24:27] Speaker 2: most days, which is Santo Claro and Ed Cavalley over
[24:31] Speaker 2: there on SBS and it's Cup fever, sort of a
[24:34] Speaker 2: funny look at everything that's happening in and around the
[24:36] Speaker 2: World Cup. And he decided to tell a story. And
[24:40] Speaker 2: I'm absolutely convinced this is so true. Remember the game
[24:46] Speaker 2: was played at two o'clock on a Sunday afternoon.
[24:51] Speaker 13: I watched at the lodge and true story, and about
[24:56] Speaker 13: just before the second goal was in the cuff covers
[25:00] Speaker 13: in seventy so just before then, about five minutes beforehand,
[25:06] Speaker 13: the security come in. People were coming around with briefs
[25:10] Speaker 13: for me, and I was like.
[25:12] Speaker 2: What are you doing?
[25:16] Speaker 13: Bring somewhere else, grab a beer, sit there and shut up.
[25:20] Speaker 14: What's in the game?
[25:23] Speaker 2: Just one of us?
[25:23] Speaker 1: Right?
[25:24] Speaker 2: Remember the game was at two o'clock on a Sunday afternoon. Now,
[25:26] Speaker 2: no doubt the Prime ministership is twenty four to seven job.
[25:29] Speaker 2: But you reckon, you reckon. There's a chance when Parliament's
[25:32] Speaker 2: not sitting that maybe, just maybe he might be left
[25:35] Speaker 2: alone on a Sunday afternoon. But again, how dare I
[25:38] Speaker 2: doubt the greatest of all time? He's also trying to
[25:41] Speaker 2: jump onto this bandwagon that somehow the soccer rus are
[25:43] Speaker 2: a representative of immigration and refugee culture. And one nation.
[25:49] Speaker 2: It all is a threat to that and therefore when
[25:51] Speaker 2: you cheer the soccer rouse, you cheer that version of
[25:55] Speaker 2: Australia which is under threat by the evil Orange Empire.
[26:00] Speaker 13: A great Australian story I reckon and it's who we are.
[26:04] Speaker 13: That fantastic video. Of course Ess has done of people
[26:10] Speaker 13: talking about where they're from, and this is a multicultural
[26:14] Speaker 13: game and we're benefited from people who've come from all
[26:19] Speaker 13: different parts of the world through a tough experience.
[26:24] Speaker 2: And it's always part of the banter is that they
[26:26] Speaker 2: would like to play things that are out of context,
[26:28] Speaker 2: and it's often funny. But there's a point I want
[26:32] Speaker 2: to make after showing this clip about what I remember
[26:34] Speaker 2: from the twenty twenty two election.
[26:37] Speaker 8: Going into the match, people are going to say that
[26:39] Speaker 8: we played tough, we play hard.
[26:40] Speaker 1: We don't. There was only one particularly tough challenge from
[26:43] Speaker 1: an Australian in the match.
[26:48] Speaker 2: We can't do that.
[26:49] Speaker 8: Oh no, no, you can't do that.
[26:51] Speaker 13: That was during the twenty two campaign, just a few
[26:56] Speaker 13: days out.
[26:57] Speaker 2: I thought we were going okay with.
[27:00] Speaker 13: When you're playing sport with little kids, let them win.
[27:04] Speaker 2: Now, all of that might be funny, but I remember
[27:07] Speaker 2: the twenty two campaign. And I remember the central promise
[27:10] Speaker 2: that he made just before the twenty two campaign in
[27:13] Speaker 2: the dying days of it. Wasn't it that a labor
[27:16] Speaker 2: government was going to lower the cost of living. Yeah,
[27:21] Speaker 2: that's what I remember from the twenty two campaign. The
[27:23] Speaker 2: lies of the twenty five campaign is why six out
[27:26] Speaker 2: of ten, six out of ten right now disapprove of
[27:30] Speaker 2: his current performance. Now I've got something exciting to show you,
[27:35] Speaker 2: which is another fresh little look at the documentary that
[27:38] Speaker 2: we're being putting together to celebrate two hundred and fifty
[27:41] Speaker 2: years of the United States independence. That of course, happens
[27:44] Speaker 2: on July the fourth. We're going to be showing it
[27:46] Speaker 2: at eight o'clock on Wednesday, July the first, And I've
[27:51] Speaker 2: got a new little look at it for you, and
[27:53] Speaker 2: I hope you're as excited as I am, because this
[27:55] Speaker 2: is fun to make, a great story to tell and
[27:59] Speaker 2: something I'm you and be very proud of.
[28:03] Speaker 1: Paul Murray takes you on an eye opening journey across America.
[28:08] Speaker 13: Before America, okay, in the nation, it was just an idea.
[28:14] Speaker 2: The founders of this country were geniuses, like liberty, the
[28:18] Speaker 2: pursuit of happiness, the best.
[28:20] Speaker 4: System we have is that we rely on individuals and
[28:25] Speaker 4: we hope those individuals choose well.
[28:28] Speaker 2: And you are the self described best to a guy
[28:31] Speaker 2: in the world, in the world, the whole world. Do
[28:34] Speaker 2: you guys talk about politics as much as we think
[28:36] Speaker 2: you talk about politics?
[28:37] Speaker 11: Yeah, we do.
[28:38] Speaker 12: Live in DC, so that I started.
[28:41] Speaker 2: You can't get sick of talking about President Donald shop
[28:45] Speaker 2: he speaks as more people wonder as Trump ptarines to
[28:49] Speaker 2: America forever or just for a little bit teasing cud.
[28:52] Speaker 2: We're living through a revolution.
[28:54] Speaker 1: Trump's America two hundred and fifty years in the making.
[28:58] Speaker 1: Premiere is Wednesday, julyfe on Sky News.
[29:02] Speaker 2: I'm so pumped. I hope you like it. It'll be
[29:04] Speaker 2: up in a couple of weeks July the first Wednesday
[29:06] Speaker 2: night at eight o'clock and then we'll be up straight
[29:08] Speaker 2: up after it as always with Paul Murray Live and
[29:10] Speaker 2: being a Wednesday night fight night. So let's get straight
[29:13] Speaker 2: into that quick break back with more here on Paul
[29:14] Speaker 2: Murray Live, Meeg and Kelly. Before we had done, thank
[29:16] Speaker 2: you so much for watching, yep, Paul and Hanson at
[29:19] Speaker 2: the National Press Club. But again, can we take some
[29:20] Speaker 2: time to talk about how the left is trying to
[29:22] Speaker 2: own the soccer ruse. Two people with some skin in
[29:25] Speaker 2: the game. Next, well, Lucy Zelie's always eleven out of ten. Always.
[29:34] Speaker 2: The reason why we've got HD here, thanks for me
[29:37] Speaker 2: is watching for Look at her there, look at her
[29:39] Speaker 2: there in soccer ruse gold you look great.
[29:43] Speaker 12: Done Later, I had to evangelize.
[29:45] Speaker 3: I keep telling everybody that I know that a couple
[29:47] Speaker 3: of our colleagues here at Skychief among them Kayler Bond
[29:49] Speaker 3: and James Macpherson. They're very skewed towards the AFL. My
[29:53] Speaker 3: colleagues over to GPS.
[29:55] Speaker 2: Your time, this is your time.
[29:56] Speaker 3: This is my time, and this is your time.
[29:59] Speaker 2: And again, as you know, my kids are certainly into
[30:02] Speaker 2: women's football. My wife is obsessed exactly, Ninja League, all
[30:06] Speaker 2: the rest of it. Right, A bloke is in charge,
[30:08] Speaker 2: of course, Well he's involved in the soccer hierarchy football Australia.
[30:13] Speaker 2: None of them. The great Steve Conroy, he joins us here,
[30:15] Speaker 2: always here to help. Don't worry, he's got the gold
[30:17] Speaker 2: Undy's on right now us he's rocket and ready now
[30:24] Speaker 2: like I wouldn't want to terrify. Yeah, we'll get a
[30:26] Speaker 2: soccer rouse talking a second. This this this attempt to
[30:31] Speaker 2: kind of own them exclusively through their personal backstories. But
[30:35] Speaker 2: let's talk about the speech today. Stephen, I've had my
[30:39] Speaker 2: say your marks. What did you think of it? And
[30:42] Speaker 2: when the get Up poster fell down? Did you think
[30:45] Speaker 2: that's a win for Pauline or a win for get Up?
[30:50] Speaker 7: No?
[30:50] Speaker 6: I think it was a win for Hanson. I think
[30:52] Speaker 6: it was just juvenile and you know, student politics. What
[30:59] Speaker 6: we needed was the just around her policies and what
[31:02] Speaker 6: the impact of her policies were and how she was
[31:05] Speaker 6: going to explain the impact, not just her slogan airing
[31:08] Speaker 6: as she often does. They want monoculture, not multiculturism. I
[31:12] Speaker 6: mean that's a slogan that's not an actual policy. How
[31:16] Speaker 6: that is implemented is what the debate needs to be
[31:19] Speaker 6: about legitimately. So No, I think it played to her strength.
[31:24] Speaker 6: It looked like she was being mocked and that sort
[31:28] Speaker 6: of behavior will actually be counter productive and help her well.
[31:33] Speaker 2: And again, the thing with this speech was there was
[31:35] Speaker 2: a certain number that we're going to watch it live.
[31:37] Speaker 2: There are a certain number that will of course watch
[31:39] Speaker 2: it later, but the reality is what gets mixed up
[31:42] Speaker 2: by the six PM News or what's just been presented
[31:44] Speaker 2: here or everywhere else. It turns up in the bites, right,
[31:47] Speaker 2: And I thought, certainly in the bites the strength is
[31:50] Speaker 2: all there. But again, if you remember the media and
[31:54] Speaker 2: you're trying to go in there and work out I
[31:55] Speaker 2: found the fault in the dead Star, isn't the question?
[31:59] Speaker 2: And I don't want to give them the advice. But
[32:00] Speaker 2: what Stephen just said, which is okay, senator you just
[32:02] Speaker 2: said monoculture, how would you achieve that?
[32:05] Speaker 12: But that's the question, that is the question.
[32:07] Speaker 3: But isn't that something that she will aim to achieve
[32:10] Speaker 3: by looking at how we immigrate people to this country,
[32:14] Speaker 3: demographics that we migrate.
[32:15] Speaker 2: To this it's a perfect But that's the question is
[32:18] Speaker 2: how we're to do it?
[32:19] Speaker 12: But they weren't the questions.
[32:20] Speaker 3: And again, unfortunately, and you've pointed to it time and
[32:23] Speaker 3: time again, Paulie, is that oftentimes our media really fail
[32:27] Speaker 3: to put it to the political class and interrogate their
[32:29] Speaker 3: points in a way that is clear to not just
[32:32] Speaker 3: them and what they're printing, but to those of us
[32:35] Speaker 3: sitting on the sidelines observing it. I think that one
[32:37] Speaker 3: of the things that they will always push for is
[32:40] Speaker 3: to try and depict her as this racist and I
[32:41] Speaker 3: would challenge anybody to watch what she said today and
[32:45] Speaker 3: to pick out the racist points.
[32:46] Speaker 2: Well, this is where the pivot is worth talking about. Right, So, Stephen,
[32:50] Speaker 2: I showed the act you and where they think there's
[32:53] Speaker 2: some vulnerability. And this is really interesting as a tactic,
[32:56] Speaker 2: right because again the left and the hard left again,
[32:58] Speaker 2: let's go to racist, let's go to all the greatest hits.
[33:00] Speaker 2: But the worry for Labor is the one two, three percent,
[33:05] Speaker 2: let's say, five percent of its base that's starting to
[33:08] Speaker 2: become one nation. Curious because that's the difference between majority
[33:11] Speaker 2: and minority government. That's potentially the difference between minority government
[33:16] Speaker 2: and losing it or some form of power sharing. Right,
[33:19] Speaker 2: So what do you read into that? Clearly a message
[33:24] Speaker 2: is being sent to people who voted labor last time
[33:27] Speaker 2: about why they want to create doubt about one nation
[33:31] Speaker 2: this time.
[33:35] Speaker 6: Look, that's that's absolutely spot on. The actu's message is
[33:41] Speaker 6: coming from research shows that well, people are attracted to
[33:45] Speaker 6: the siren call around some of her regular issues. Her
[33:51] Speaker 6: record in how she's behaved on some core fundamental cost
[33:57] Speaker 6: of living issues is one that needs to be shown
[34:03] Speaker 6: repeatedly to that one nation curious vote that's been a
[34:07] Speaker 6: labor voter. So I think that's that's the smart way
[34:11] Speaker 6: to win this argument. Don't worry about Hanson and all
[34:14] Speaker 6: the things she says. Just make sure voters understand that
[34:17] Speaker 6: the consequence of her being in charge is the following
[34:22] Speaker 6: things that will affect your cost of living and your
[34:25] Speaker 6: standard of living well. And so I think that is
[34:28] Speaker 6: the smart attack and I would expect to see more
[34:31] Speaker 6: of that over the next two years.
[34:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, is it fire the layer. No,
[34:35] Speaker 2: But you know, these are the people who don't hold
[34:37] Speaker 2: of hoes. We're able to completely weaponize that right, So
[34:39] Speaker 2: there'll be a form of words, a slip somewhere that
[34:41] Speaker 2: they will turn to the weaponizing. The difference, of course,
[34:44] Speaker 2: is that in the Sky News passeport that we showed
[34:47] Speaker 2: yesterday that one Nations now cracked through the barrier of
[34:51] Speaker 2: are you able to govern? Are you fit to govern?
[34:53] Speaker 2: And a majority of voters believe that to be the case.
[34:56] Speaker 2: People are an even higher number open to that before
[35:00] Speaker 2: the next election, and they think that they'll get there.
[35:02] Speaker 2: That's something that Peter Dunnen in the opposition never got
[35:05] Speaker 2: to it the last election. So That's why the scare
[35:07] Speaker 2: campaigns they work to a point, but that has to
[35:11] Speaker 2: work off an assumption that exists already that oh, they're
[35:13] Speaker 2: not ready. Well again the Posse poll you gov the
[35:16] Speaker 2: same people have got it right last time. They show
[35:18] Speaker 2: majority of people, regardless of which way they're going to vote,
[35:21] Speaker 2: they think they are actually ready to go.
[35:22] Speaker 8: Yeah.
[35:23] Speaker 3: And I think that it was Basil over in Western
[35:25] Speaker 3: Australia who said something really interesting.
[35:27] Speaker 12: He said that we have to look at this.
[35:28] Speaker 3: Rise of one nation and recognize that this is the
[35:30] Speaker 3: will of the people.
[35:32] Speaker 12: We're not just.
[35:33] Speaker 3: Talking about this political party that have stood up and
[35:35] Speaker 3: started making all this noise and generated all this attention
[35:38] Speaker 3: off the back of Zilch.
[35:40] Speaker 2: Right.
[35:40] Speaker 3: This is people recognizing that the political class in either
[35:43] Speaker 3: option have failed them.
[35:45] Speaker 7: Right.
[35:45] Speaker 3: They're being referred to now as the UNI Party. They
[35:47] Speaker 3: took the piece for too many years. They were arrogant,
[35:49] Speaker 3: they spent our money like kids in a candy shop,
[35:52] Speaker 3: and people have had quite frankly enough of it. So
[35:54] Speaker 3: whether you agree that fire the Liar is going to
[35:56] Speaker 3: be sustainable and effective long term and that people want
[35:59] Speaker 3: to see policy, you know, that's debatable, because right now
[36:03] Speaker 3: it is working You've generated close to four and a
[36:05] Speaker 3: half million dollars in a week because people are sick
[36:09] Speaker 3: of what they're seeing unfold in front of them, and
[36:10] Speaker 3: they're also quite frankly sick of being referred to as
[36:13] Speaker 3: racists simply because they're patriotic, or because they recognize that
[36:17] Speaker 3: parts of their country are changing and that that's not
[36:20] Speaker 3: something that's racist, that's just basic human instinct.
[36:23] Speaker 2: Poorly, Well, now, I can't waste this opportunity when we're
[36:26] Speaker 2: in the kitten. We've got a passionate fan as well.
[36:29] Speaker 2: Let's get to the soccer rus of it, all right, Look,
[36:31] Speaker 2: good luck, let's see what happens for Saturday morning, five o'clock.
[36:34] Speaker 2: Hopefully millions of people. You certainly know I'm all in
[36:36] Speaker 2: on the US, but I'll pick Astralia over the US
[36:39] Speaker 2: any time. Certainly, some of the salt in the wounds
[36:42] Speaker 2: garbage that's been said in the media, there's a great
[36:45] Speaker 2: factor about again, you know, David and Goliath. It's going
[36:48] Speaker 2: to be amazing to watch, right, But I want to
[36:50] Speaker 2: get to the very naked attempt from the left to
[36:54] Speaker 2: try to define what the soccer rews mean, and particularly
[36:58] Speaker 2: these this bunch of blocks folks. Now Lucy again used
[37:02] Speaker 2: to work for the broadcast, and we're asking you to
[37:04] Speaker 2: talk about them. They've gone in very hard on this idea.
[37:06] Speaker 2: You know, diversity says strength rah rah. Here's the thing,
[37:09] Speaker 2: No one cares where anyone comes from. We all love
[37:12] Speaker 2: that they have chosen to play for Australia and they
[37:14] Speaker 2: have the skill to take on the world. The personal
[37:16] Speaker 2: story is okay, good to know along the way, But
[37:18] Speaker 2: I am not cheering our national team because of its members.
[37:21] Speaker 2: I am cheering it on because it's our national team.
[37:23] Speaker 12: That's it.
[37:24] Speaker 3: And I think one of the most disappointing things has
[37:26] Speaker 3: been in the context of this one nation discussion has
[37:29] Speaker 3: been that people have tried to weaponize, say a goal
[37:32] Speaker 3: scorer like nest Iran Kunda scoring for his country wearing
[37:36] Speaker 3: the green and gold, which, by the way, my husband
[37:38] Speaker 3: has done, both of my brothers have done at respective levels.
[37:41] Speaker 3: They will all tell you there is nothing more special
[37:44] Speaker 3: or honorable than that and standing up there and singing
[37:46] Speaker 3: the anthem. All of those men, the twenty six men
[37:49] Speaker 3: that have been called up to this squad and gone
[37:50] Speaker 3: over there are Australians, regardless of their skin color.
[37:54] Speaker 12: Of their race.
[37:55] Speaker 3: The only ones that are choosing to make it about
[37:58] Speaker 3: their skin color and their race are the left. So
[38:00] Speaker 3: the fact that they're now trying to weaponize oh guess what, Pauline.
[38:04] Speaker 3: Look at nesteri or and Kunda's journey. He was born
[38:06] Speaker 3: in a refugee camp and came over here when he
[38:08] Speaker 3: was four months old.
[38:09] Speaker 12: He's a representative.
[38:10] Speaker 2: Where's the one nation policy we will take no more refugees.
[38:12] Speaker 2: I'm not aware of this one, but where's.
[38:14] Speaker 3: The one nation policy or principle or even sound bite
[38:17] Speaker 3: where she says I've got an issue with people from here,
[38:21] Speaker 3: or you're not welcome in this country. She has always
[38:23] Speaker 3: made it clear that if you come here, assimilate, love
[38:26] Speaker 3: our way of life, learn the language, and adapt to
[38:29] Speaker 3: our values, you are welcome. But to weaponize it now,
[38:32] Speaker 3: all that it says to me, Paulie is that they're
[38:35] Speaker 3: using them as a tool for politics and not for
[38:38] Speaker 3: their own purpose.
[38:39] Speaker 2: Stephen, obviously a difficult to needle for you to thread,
[38:43] Speaker 2: being part of the machine, But what do you think
[38:45] Speaker 2: about this attempt? Right?
[38:50] Speaker 6: Look, I just I'm enjoying seeing how sensitive a nerve
[38:54] Speaker 6: that the stories of the Soccaroos has caused. For Lucy and.
[38:59] Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no no no, that's come on.
[39:02] Speaker 2: I'm enjoying the characterization.
[39:05] Speaker 12: You haven't hit a nerve.
[39:06] Speaker 3: No no, you haven't hit Pauline hands and has hidden nerves, pushing, pushing.
[39:14] Speaker 6: Hidden nerves, the Left trying to steal. I'm sorry you're
[39:17] Speaker 6: threatened by the backstories, the true life stories, as if
[39:21] Speaker 6: incredible Australian, As.
[39:23] Speaker 12: If I'm threatened. My father came here.
[39:25] Speaker 4: On a bunch in nineteen sixty eight, My brothers proudly
[39:28] Speaker 4: represented this country. This has nothing to do with feeling
[39:31] Speaker 4: threatened and everything to do with the left trying to
[39:35] Speaker 4: recognize the color of the skin of our players and
[39:38] Speaker 4: make out much Pauline Hanson's.
[39:40] Speaker 6: Races players themselves. Have you watched have you watched recent
[39:43] Speaker 6: interviews where they're talking about what a wonderful multicultural Australia
[39:48] Speaker 6: is and is so welcoming to them and the strength
[39:51] Speaker 6: of Australia is it's multiculturalism. That's the actual case.
[39:55] Speaker 12: I'm really glad you brought up to the multils.
[39:58] Speaker 3: So I'm glad you brought up the word multicultural, and
[40:01] Speaker 3: I want to be quick about it. Would you agree
[40:03] Speaker 3: that culturally there Are people in this country that are
[40:06] Speaker 3: using machete violence on our streets?
[40:09] Speaker 12: Yes, you would agree to that. Are they child marriages.
[40:11] Speaker 3: That occur in this country that are being practiced by
[40:15] Speaker 3: certain cultures?
[40:16] Speaker 12: Yes?
[40:16] Speaker 3: Do we agree that some cultures look to subjugate women
[40:20] Speaker 3: and view them as second class citizens?
[40:22] Speaker 12: The answer is yes.
[40:23] Speaker 3: Do we agree with those cultures that use the answer
[40:26] Speaker 3: is no, people who break them?
[40:29] Speaker 2: Correct? All right, mental note, have this discussion next week,
[40:31] Speaker 2: but the lead off we'll don't look to it in
[40:33] Speaker 2: the end. All right, go the soccer ru, go the
[40:35] Speaker 2: soccer rus. Love you to see. I'm so glad that
[40:37] Speaker 2: you hear. Both of you. Will do it again. Fight night,
[40:39] Speaker 2: Wednesday Night, Whenever hold back Leading Kelly is next here
[40:42] Speaker 2: and Paul Murray Life. Thanks for watching our favorite time
[40:50] Speaker 2: of the week to talk to our favorite person in
[40:52] Speaker 2: the world, the one, the only, the wonderful Megan Kelly
[40:54] Speaker 2: in the United States. Hello, mate, Now you've got to
[40:57] Speaker 2: hang out with the Vice President J d Vance today.
[41:00] Speaker 2: How do you think it win?
[41:01] Speaker 12: I think it went very well.
[41:02] Speaker 15: I mean he was just very frank about everything and
[41:06] Speaker 15: we went everywhere, you know, I mean, nothing was off
[41:08] Speaker 15: limits and we did go. There was the main thing
[41:11] Speaker 15: I wanted to talk about was, of course the Iran deal.
[41:13] Speaker 15: Why can't we see it? What about the pushback from
[41:15] Speaker 15: the more neo con wright that seems to really hate
[41:18] Speaker 15: this thing? And he answered all that, But the main
[41:20] Speaker 15: thing I wanted to talk to him about was the
[41:22] Speaker 15: betrayal that the more isolationist wing of the party is feeling.
[41:25] Speaker 12: I mean, it's pointless to ignore it.
[41:28] Speaker 15: It's there, and it's going to manifest in probably the
[41:30] Speaker 15: midterms and maybe beyond. So as kind of the unofficial
[41:35] Speaker 15: leader of that wing, I wanted to hear what he
[41:38] Speaker 15: had to say to the people who do feel deeply
[41:40] Speaker 15: betrayed that Trump said he wouldn't launch a Middle East
[41:43] Speaker 15: war and then did. The non interventionalist right feels very betrayed,
[41:48] Speaker 15: very betrayed by it. Whether you agree with that they've
[41:51] Speaker 15: been betrayed or not, mister Vice President, what do you
[41:54] Speaker 15: say to those people?
[41:55] Speaker 11: Well, what I'd say to them is is one, I
[41:58] Speaker 11: think you can walk through all the ways in which
[42:00] Speaker 11: this has led to a good place for the United
[42:02] Speaker 11: States of America, and I'd ask them not to sort
[42:04] Speaker 11: of view this purely through the filter. I know, you
[42:06] Speaker 11: know a lot of these these folks are frustrated with
[42:09] Speaker 11: a role that Israel has and all this. We can
[42:11] Speaker 11: talk about that, but don't look at it from the
[42:13] Speaker 11: lens of you know, what is it that different people
[42:17] Speaker 11: think about it?
[42:18] Speaker 5: What do you think about it?
[42:19] Speaker 11: Like, fundamentally, do you think I've talked a lot.
[42:22] Speaker 2: But were you surprised about anything in the conversation.
[42:25] Speaker 12: Yeah?
[42:25] Speaker 15: I thought he was a gentleman and he could have gone.
[42:28] Speaker 15: He knows how to go a white knuckle. I mean,
[42:30] Speaker 15: he grew up in the Halla, you know, he knows
[42:32] Speaker 15: how to fight, and he knows how.
[42:35] Speaker 12: To you know, really dismantle somebody rhetorically.
[42:37] Speaker 15: But so he offered a couple of jabs, like, it's
[42:40] Speaker 15: very interesting how these people who cozied up to Trump
[42:44] Speaker 15: have now turned on him. You know, the loudest supporters
[42:47] Speaker 15: when he launched the war are suddenly his biggest critics.
[42:50] Speaker 15: He kind of made note of that, but then quickly
[42:54] Speaker 15: turned to like, but I have grace for them, because, look,
[43:00] Speaker 15: it's a difficult situation. And I would just say to
[43:02] Speaker 15: them what I've said to the more isolationist wing, which
[43:06] Speaker 15: is be mad, speak your piece, but don't leave. Don't
[43:10] Speaker 15: go totally black pilled on your couch with the double
[43:14] Speaker 15: barrel middle fingers this November or beyond because we have
[43:19] Speaker 15: a leftist, lunatic fringe to defit defeat, you know.
[43:23] Speaker 12: So that's kind of where I've been too. You know,
[43:26] Speaker 12: I've talked.
[43:26] Speaker 15: To a lot, a lot of people who are totally
[43:29] Speaker 15: black pilled, meaning they're like uniparty disgusting. Either I'm never
[43:36] Speaker 15: voting again, or I'll get behind some third party phoenix
[43:39] Speaker 15: that rises from these ashes. But I am over these.
[43:43] Speaker 12: One party neocons.
[43:45] Speaker 15: You know, even the non isolation, the non an Eventelist
[43:47] Speaker 15: turn out to be neocons because they all get bought
[43:49] Speaker 15: and paid for by Israel or its supporters, and we're done.
[43:52] Speaker 12: I am not quite in that place myself.
[43:55] Speaker 15: I'm much more like, well, I'm more optimistic just in
[43:58] Speaker 15: general in my life.
[43:59] Speaker 12: I'm like, it's a two party system. We have to
[44:01] Speaker 12: work within it. These are the choices we have. It
[44:03] Speaker 12: is a binary choice.
[44:04] Speaker 15: You can talk all you want about a third party,
[44:06] Speaker 15: but even Elon Musk couldn't get that going. So you
[44:09] Speaker 15: and I, as the non trillionaires, are probably not going
[44:12] Speaker 15: to be able to So what's the point, Like, it's
[44:16] Speaker 15: it better to sit on the couch and let the
[44:19] Speaker 15: rabid leftist with the blue hair make the decisions.
[44:22] Speaker 12: It's maybe it's the choice.
[44:24] Speaker 15: Between the lesser of two evils, but you should choose
[44:27] Speaker 15: the lesser, you know. So that's kind of where I am,
[44:30] Speaker 15: and that's what Jad was saying.
[44:32] Speaker 2: Now, you know jd Vance very well. You supported him
[44:35] Speaker 2: pre he's running the Senate. You've been through all the
[44:37] Speaker 2: ups and downs of him becoming the vice president. And
[44:40] Speaker 2: I don't know how much you can talk about this,
[44:42] Speaker 2: but how do you see the difference between how much
[44:46] Speaker 2: he has to bend to the will of being loyal
[44:48] Speaker 2: to the president because that is his way to become
[44:51] Speaker 2: the next president. Every vice president has the same rules
[44:54] Speaker 2: in terms of following their boss. But how do you
[44:57] Speaker 2: think he starts to walk his own path to a
[45:00] Speaker 2: candidacy in twenty night and a potential presidency always on.
[45:05] Speaker 15: I think he starts every day and decision with loyalty
[45:10] Speaker 15: to the president. And I think that's an excellent mindset
[45:13] Speaker 15: for the vice president. He knows very well he would
[45:16] Speaker 15: be nowhere near the White House if it weren't for
[45:18] Speaker 15: Donald Trump, and no one would be talking about him seriously.
[45:22] Speaker 15: As the twenty eight You know de facto Republican nominee
[45:26] Speaker 15: if he hadn't been VP thanks to Trump. So he
[45:29] Speaker 15: owes his political career to Trump. Even the Trump endorsement
[45:31] Speaker 15: when he ran for Senate was critical. So I think
[45:35] Speaker 15: that's a smart attitude. It's gonna get tricky as he
[45:40] Speaker 15: emerges as more of the news leader than Trump.
[45:44] Speaker 12: We saw it with Kamala Harris.
[45:46] Speaker 15: Forgive me for making any comparison between those two.
[45:49] Speaker 12: That's like blasphemy. Paul, forgive me.
[45:52] Speaker 15: It had to be done because they both shared the
[45:54] Speaker 15: same title for a stint. But when she ran and
[45:57] Speaker 15: she went on Colbert and then she went on the
[45:58] Speaker 15: View and they asked the same quest question, which is
[46:01] Speaker 15: is there anything you would you do differently than the
[46:05] Speaker 15: sitting president your boss? And both times she whiffed it
[46:09] Speaker 15: and said nothing comes to mind. And it was a
[46:12] Speaker 15: disaster because he was a disaster. Now Trump's not a disaster,
[46:17] Speaker 15: but his approval ratings are at record lows. His base
[46:20] Speaker 15: has been fractured by this war. The coalition that got
[46:25] Speaker 15: him into office has completely fractured. He's lost single or
[46:28] Speaker 15: double digits with every single group, from blacks to Hispanics
[46:32] Speaker 15: to independents. Are completely gone, men, working class all gone
[46:38] Speaker 15: in terms of his trajectory. That's just the truth. So
[46:41] Speaker 15: there's some work to be done there. So how do
[46:43] Speaker 15: you answer that question?
[46:44] Speaker 12: If you're JD. Vance. It's a very interesting thing to
[46:48] Speaker 12: think about. And I think he hasn't told me this.
[46:52] Speaker 15: This is just my speculation that he's thinking there's zero
[46:56] Speaker 15: chance of me getting the nomination and getting elected. If
[47:01] Speaker 15: I try to start ripping on my boss, Donald Trump.
[47:05] Speaker 15: That core MAGA group that is completely loyal just to
[47:08] Speaker 15: Trump will say, f you you're an ing greet.
[47:12] Speaker 2: We're out well again. Thank you so much, Megan. Congrats
[47:15] Speaker 2: on the interview. Everyone can check it out on YouTube.
[47:17] Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. You're on Sky News.
[47:19] Speaker 12: You're so sweet. Thank you, Paul, see you next week.
[47:27] Speaker 2: You might have heard the news by now. But Jeremy
[47:30] Speaker 2: Clarkson of top gear fame for so many years, who
[47:34] Speaker 2: now does that incredible show Clarkson's Farm, which is so
[47:37] Speaker 2: awesome to watch and I watch it with my family.
[47:39] Speaker 2: I couldn't be a bigger fan of this guy because
[47:41] Speaker 2: he represents a fearlessness that is just infectious. Well, as
[47:45] Speaker 2: you may have heard, he has announced that he has cancer.
[47:49] Speaker 2: He did so in the latest episodes of his program
[47:52] Speaker 2: on Amazon.
[47:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, I've Got Cars.
[48:00] Speaker 2: I disappeared off the other week and I had a
[48:02] Speaker 2: biopsy on and it's canceling. It's aggressive, but it's really early,
[48:07] Speaker 2: so fingers crossed by getting it early, they can treat
[48:10] Speaker 2: it early. But he is an exceptional, exceptional talent on camera.
[48:15] Speaker 2: I know any what he's like off camera. But for
[48:17] Speaker 2: those of us that are his fans around the world,
[48:19] Speaker 2: we said nothing but strength and love to him and
[48:22] Speaker 2: to his family and to the wider group of people
[48:24] Speaker 2: who admire his work. I look forward to good news
[48:27] Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. We'll see you again tomorrow for
[48:29] Speaker 2: Paul my real life

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