# Paul Murray Live | 20 November

An episode of [Paul Murray Live](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/376966263), 20 Nov 2025, 49 min.

Audio: https://p.podderapp.com/2544644999/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/be3abd48-25e5-45a6-aede-ac2a00524a12/c955e781-f866-4bd1-b028-b39b00bcc0d6/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=95971714-8fe6-4855-b1fe-ac2a00524a12

Thousands of men's boots have been placed outside Parliament House in Canberra, Anthony Albanese gets dumped by the UN. Plus, Murray Watt fearmongering on net zero. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Sharry.
[0:07] Speaker 1: Have a wonderful weekend. How good is it? One more
[0:09] Speaker 1: sleep until the Ashes five tests. Let's take them on.
[0:13] Speaker 1: Let's have our fun. Fox Cricket of course has the
[0:16] Speaker 1: best coverage in the country, from their technology behind the
[0:20] Speaker 1: scenes to the action that you will see in Beautiful
[0:23] Speaker 1: four k. Make sure that you are watching that and
[0:25] Speaker 1: obviously checking in with us after the games each and
[0:27] Speaker 1: every night. You know the time zones in Perth. Big
[0:30] Speaker 1: news tonight. Also when it comes to the amount of
[0:33] Speaker 1: gambling ads on television now there has been a lot
[0:35] Speaker 1: of pressure which has been placed upon the government. It
[0:38] Speaker 1: looks like one side has won. We'll get to this
[0:41] Speaker 1: in a moment or two's time. A couple of things
[0:43] Speaker 1: that are not quite obvious as headline news, but still
[0:46] Speaker 1: very much worth talking about tonight, including is training trucking
[0:49] Speaker 1: industry without it? The stuff doesn't grow on the shop
[0:53] Speaker 1: shelf without it, the stuff that ends up turning up
[0:57] Speaker 1: on your doorstep that you have bought ours fast fashion
[1:01] Speaker 1: or presence from overseas, it doesn't happen. There's some problems
[1:06] Speaker 1: in the Australian trucking industry. We'll talk about that. The
[1:08] Speaker 1: yay for the day is going to go to a
[1:10] Speaker 1: government that's actually decided to start to rain real estate
[1:14] Speaker 1: agents in so no longer can they turn around and
[1:16] Speaker 1: tell you, oh, we're working this joint and probably about
[1:18] Speaker 1: a million bucks and ends up going for two point whatever.
[1:21] Speaker 1: Some honesty when it comes to real estate, and we
[1:23] Speaker 1: know that that is the nation's investment porn. Now we
[1:28] Speaker 1: have got the biggest audience of the year for Our Town,
[1:32] Speaker 1: not this Sunday, next Sunday, and we have just added
[1:35] Speaker 1: a whole bunch of brand new seats. Now it only
[1:37] Speaker 1: took a couple of mentions for us to fill the
[1:39] Speaker 1: joint where we found a way to get a bit
[1:41] Speaker 1: of overflow. If you would like to join us for
[1:43] Speaker 1: the final Our Town of the year, it is in
[1:45] Speaker 1: a Chuka in beautiful Victoria. We are there, not this
[1:48] Speaker 1: but next Sunday if you would like to come. Tickets
[1:50] Speaker 1: are free, but they are of course for fans of
[1:52] Speaker 1: the show. Our Town that's skynews dot com dot you Ourtown,
[1:55] Speaker 1: It's skynews dot com dot AU. Tickets are limited, get
[1:59] Speaker 1: in fast. Now I'm going to use a few terms
[2:04] Speaker 1: that the Internet seems to love like. I am a
[2:06] Speaker 1: very proud girl dad both of my little lovelies, of
[2:10] Speaker 1: course little ladies, and I am fully signed up to
[2:12] Speaker 1: the idea about the future is female and very aware
[2:15] Speaker 1: of all of this. I work with wonderful and passionate
[2:18] Speaker 1: women behind the scenes, dearest friends. Right well, what about
[2:24] Speaker 1: and of course, as I'll discuss in a moment or
[2:25] Speaker 1: two time, women are absolutely taking the lead, certainly on
[2:29] Speaker 1: the liberal side of politics right now, with the Chief
[2:32] Speaker 1: Minister in the Northern Territory Susan Lee, is the opposition
[2:34] Speaker 1: leader Kelly Sloane about to step up in New South Wales,
[2:37] Speaker 1: Jess Wilson the same in Victoria. But may I quickly
[2:41] Speaker 1: say something about blokes, because this month is of course
[2:44] Speaker 1: the month when the little hairy caterpillar is turning up
[2:47] Speaker 1: for many as they raise money, raise awareness. Of course,
[2:50] Speaker 1: November all about men's health and not part of November,
[2:56] Speaker 1: not part of some of the more traditional ways that
[2:59] Speaker 1: this time is marked. But there was something that took
[3:01] Speaker 1: place yesterday, and forgive me that I did not mention
[3:05] Speaker 1: it yesterday. There are about two and a half thousand
[3:09] Speaker 1: boots that were placed out the front of Parliament House.
[3:13] Speaker 1: These were done by the International Men's Day Group in
[3:16] Speaker 1: Australia and they are sadly a representation of the blokes
[3:20] Speaker 1: that are no longer with us because they chose to
[3:22] Speaker 1: end their lives well. Then two and a half thousand
[3:25] Speaker 1: empty boots and shoes were placed in front of Parliament
[3:27] Speaker 1: House in canber on Wednesday to highlight the male suicide
[3:30] Speaker 1: epidemic in Australia. Symbolic gesture was made on International Men's
[3:34] Speaker 1: Day to explore to expose male suicide, which is one
[3:38] Speaker 1: of the country's biggest killers. International Men's Day aims to
[3:41] Speaker 1: bring awareness to men's health and well being. Two thousand,
[3:44] Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty nine men and boys took their
[3:47] Speaker 1: life in just the last year. Now, if your family
[3:54] Speaker 1: was affected by this in the past twelve months or
[3:57] Speaker 1: at any time, strength and love to you with the
[4:00] Speaker 1: whole that has been left. If you are one of
[4:03] Speaker 1: too many blokes in this country who struggle, there are
[4:07] Speaker 1: plenty of places that you can go for help. If
[4:10] Speaker 1: you are someone who considers yourself to be a good
[4:12] Speaker 1: bloke or a good mate, it is your job to
[4:14] Speaker 1: check in on your friends and a reminder to anyone
[4:18] Speaker 1: who is battling tonight. But after a busy work day
[4:21] Speaker 1: or after a little bit of time alone, please contact
[4:24] Speaker 1: lifeloine really special, really important people their website if you
[4:27] Speaker 1: prefer texting. But thirteen eleven fourteen, Now, Dan Repercouli is
[4:33] Speaker 1: the special Envoy, not a full minister, but a special
[4:36] Speaker 1: envoy that the Prime Minister is put in place to
[4:38] Speaker 1: deal with men's health and getting the word out about
[4:41] Speaker 1: men's health. This is not about Team Read, it's not
[4:43] Speaker 1: about Team Blue, but there's certainly a focus. He yesterday
[4:47] Speaker 1: on Facebook said Happy International Men's Day. Now, as best
[4:51] Speaker 1: as I know, this is not something that obviously results
[4:55] Speaker 1: in the brunches and the functions and the ribbons and
[4:57] Speaker 1: all the rest of it. And we, as I say,
[4:59] Speaker 1: future is female well girled out. I'm cool with all
[5:01] Speaker 1: of that about an International Women's Day. But I want
[5:04] Speaker 1: to quote from somebody inside the heart of government here
[5:06] Speaker 1: who I'm sure I disagree with on many other issues,
[5:08] Speaker 1: But how can we not agree on this? He says
[5:12] Speaker 1: that the day is important because being a man isn't
[5:15] Speaker 1: about pretending that you're tough all the time. It's about
[5:18] Speaker 1: being a good bloke. It's about showing up. It's about
[5:20] Speaker 1: looking after your mates. It's about being someone the young
[5:23] Speaker 1: fellas can look up to. Bloody eth well said dad,
[5:26] Speaker 1: So today being yesterday, today being today, or dare I
[5:31] Speaker 1: say every day to come please do one of the
[5:33] Speaker 1: following things. Send him made a message book that doctor's appointment,
[5:38] Speaker 1: no matter how unpleasant you may well think it to be,
[5:41] Speaker 1: it will save a life, hopefully yours. Tell a young
[5:44] Speaker 1: fellow that you're proud of him. That's a great tip.
[5:48] Speaker 1: And if you're struggling, please talk to somebody. When we're back,
[5:51] Speaker 1: boys and men, the whole community is better for it.
[5:54] Speaker 1: Blood the Oath again I repeat at the start of
[5:58] Speaker 1: the show to anyone who struggling, regardless men, women, kids,
[6:03] Speaker 1: people in the back nine of your life, we love you,
[6:06] Speaker 1: we need you, We are the better for you being here.
[6:10] Speaker 1: It is the privilege of a life to be able
[6:12] Speaker 1: to put these messages out across the airwaves and online
[6:15] Speaker 1: and on podcast. To the mates in my life, thank
[6:18] Speaker 1: you for all the support that you give me. To
[6:20] Speaker 1: the family so I love o so dearly. Thank you again.
[6:24] Speaker 1: It is your job when times are good, to look
[6:26] Speaker 1: around and have an idea. When times are tough, as
[6:30] Speaker 1: I mentioned a couple of weeks ago an incredibly dear
[6:33] Speaker 1: friend of mine, I was lucky enough to have two
[6:36] Speaker 1: older brothers by another mother, not because we had a
[6:38] Speaker 1: split or complicated family, but because they were mates who
[6:41] Speaker 1: became dear friends who then became brothers by choice. Sadly,
[6:46] Speaker 1: both are no longer with us. I love you, ev,
[6:49] Speaker 1: I love your bangers and to everyone else who battles,
[6:54] Speaker 1: strength and love to you. Blokes matter, Chiela's matter. And
[6:58] Speaker 1: I say both because as a loving Australian, they are
[7:02] Speaker 1: our national pronouns. Now interesting, Remember we constantly keep being
[7:08] Speaker 1: told as the Liberal party that has a problem with women,
[7:10] Speaker 1: a problem with willomen Well, guess what is about to happen.
[7:13] Speaker 1: There is about to be yet another major tipping point
[7:15] Speaker 1: here because you are about to see a very accomplished
[7:20] Speaker 1: human being who happens to be female. But worth noting
[7:23] Speaker 1: here Kelly Sloane take up the cudgels of being the
[7:27] Speaker 1: alternative premier, the opposition leader in New South Wales. She
[7:30] Speaker 1: is about to become that leader, as you know by now,
[7:32] Speaker 1: because Mark Speakman really a placeholder at best, didn't even
[7:37] Speaker 1: keep the seat warm, but obviously he had to disappear
[7:41] Speaker 1: and all of this was some sort of a shock
[7:42] Speaker 1: to him. I'm not entirely sure why, and I know,
[7:45] Speaker 1: apparently a good blow blah blah blah. I don't know
[7:47] Speaker 1: him from a barasap, but I certainly know the decisions
[7:49] Speaker 1: that were made in government and some of the fathers
[7:52] Speaker 1: that have been there in opposition. But as you know,
[7:54] Speaker 1: he started the day saying, I'm great, they'll have to
[7:56] Speaker 1: blast me out. This is what he said this morning
[7:59] Speaker 1: having a chat to Elga. Even a few hours are
[8:03] Speaker 1: a long time in politics, that's right. It got replaced
[8:06] Speaker 1: by what happened at the end of the day. At
[8:08] Speaker 1: the end of the day, he was flushed from the
[8:11] Speaker 1: front bench, flushed from the leadership, and obviously he now, well,
[8:15] Speaker 1: one day we'll get a chance to be a minister again.
[8:18] Speaker 1: But it's important to note that the Liberal Party right
[8:22] Speaker 1: now is being led by more women than the Labor Party.
[8:26] Speaker 1: This was all done without the quotas, without the systems
[8:28] Speaker 1: that have been put in place that has produced, yes,
[8:30] Speaker 1: more female representation in terms of MPs and ministers. That's
[8:34] Speaker 1: not immaterial. But again just take note here you've got
[8:40] Speaker 1: a female leader of the Federal opposition. You've got a
[8:42] Speaker 1: female Chief Minister in the Northern Territory, you've got a
[8:46] Speaker 1: female Liberal leader in Victoria, and about to be a
[8:49] Speaker 1: female Liberal leader in Victoria. Well done again the problem
[8:54] Speaker 1: with the problem with women. Now, let's compare this to
[8:58] Speaker 1: the Labor Party federally. It's bloke sahoi. The leader is
[9:03] Speaker 1: a man, the deputy is a man. And remember Anthony Albernizi.
[9:09] Speaker 1: Well he sort of jumped the queue because remember when
[9:12] Speaker 1: Tanya Plibaseik could well have ended up being the leader
[9:15] Speaker 1: of the Labor Party. She was a loyal deputy to
[9:17] Speaker 1: Bill Shorten. She is off the left. It was her
[9:20] Speaker 1: time to take over the leadership of the party between
[9:24] Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and twenty twenty two. But no, no, old
[9:26] Speaker 1: mate Albo, the great believer in female success. Well, of
[9:31] Speaker 1: course he had to push her out of the way
[9:32] Speaker 1: because it was his turn. What do they used to
[9:35] Speaker 1: say about see how they walk the walk rather than
[9:39] Speaker 1: the things that they talk. And also let's compare the pair.
[9:42] Speaker 1: Let's compare the set right now as we go around
[9:44] Speaker 1: the country, lots of blokes and that doesn't mean automatically
[9:47] Speaker 1: they're bad people or anything like that. But again, you've
[9:49] Speaker 1: got male leaders of the Labor Party in New South
[9:52] Speaker 1: Wales and South Australia and Western Australia, in Tasmania and
[9:56] Speaker 1: in Queensland. The only exception of the rule, of course
[10:00] Speaker 1: is just Into Allen, meaning that regardless of what the
[10:04] Speaker 1: result of the next Victorian election will be, the future
[10:07] Speaker 1: of Victoria and as we start to see now the
[10:09] Speaker 1: future of Australia, it is female and it is going
[10:13] Speaker 1: to be awesome, not if just Inde Ellen gets another term.
[10:16] Speaker 1: But you get my point. Now, let's talk about the
[10:19] Speaker 1: Prime Minister, because he's trying to put a frown upside down.
[10:22] Speaker 1: He's trying to pretend that he's still a hit with
[10:25] Speaker 1: the international community, despite the fact that the evidence is
[10:28] Speaker 1: not great. Today we know that when he was talking
[10:30] Speaker 1: at the UN there was four fifths of bugger all
[10:32] Speaker 1: people there. Why because it's the Australian leader. That's the
[10:34] Speaker 1: way it works. A little reminder about just how a
[10:37] Speaker 1: little old Australia is not as important as sometimes we
[10:40] Speaker 1: think it is. It's the greatest country in the world,
[10:42] Speaker 1: but certainly some of these people who think, oh we're
[10:44] Speaker 1: leading the world, guess what we're part of it? And
[10:47] Speaker 1: as you know, we wanted to bring an international UN
[10:50] Speaker 1: Climate conference to Adelaide. Now, the frustration many of us
[10:54] Speaker 1: had with the idea was that this was going to
[10:55] Speaker 1: cost one billion dollars, some suggestions even higher, but let's
[10:59] Speaker 1: even imagine it was five hundred million dollars. This was
[11:03] Speaker 1: all of course going to end up being the total
[11:04] Speaker 1: focus of twenty twenty six, and in many ways the
[11:08] Speaker 1: distraction that was the voice in twenty twenty three may
[11:11] Speaker 1: will have been replicated in twenty twenty six. So thankfully,
[11:15] Speaker 1: thankfully we have been saved because as you know, we're
[11:17] Speaker 1: not getting it. But this event was being very much
[11:20] Speaker 1: talked up. The Labor Party is going to pretend, oh no,
[11:24] Speaker 1: we weren't really that into it. We didn't really put
[11:26] Speaker 1: that much effort in. Well they did. He was the
[11:29] Speaker 1: South Australian Leader on with Andrew Clonell a bit earlier
[11:32] Speaker 1: this week, trying to compare a climate change conference to
[11:36] Speaker 1: the Olympics.
[11:38] Speaker 2: It'll be a smaller cost than in the Olympics, a
[11:41] Speaker 2: lot smaller costs than the Olympics, but in terms of
[11:44] Speaker 2: the platform it provides, you know, it's pretty much second
[11:47] Speaker 2: to the Olympics in terms of the scale of the event,
[11:49] Speaker 2: the number of people that would travel to Australia and
[11:52] Speaker 2: spend their their hard earned dollars in our local economy.
[11:55] Speaker 2: So there's an economic cup lift to be achieved.
[11:57] Speaker 1: Pull the other one, Pallett Place jingle bells. Now, yes,
[12:00] Speaker 1: there is a cost difference of multiple billion dollars for
[12:02] Speaker 1: the Olympic Games, but last time I checked, a stadium
[12:06] Speaker 1: will last a whole lot longer physically and be available
[12:09] Speaker 1: to much more things than the in and out of
[12:11] Speaker 1: a week of kop the one that of course is
[12:14] Speaker 1: happening in Brazil, the one before that that was happening
[12:16] Speaker 1: in other parts of the world. Azerbai John that's right.
[12:21] Speaker 1: The Prime Minister deems these events so important that we
[12:24] Speaker 1: had to try to host them, but doesn't attend any
[12:26] Speaker 1: of them. In fact, he's attended duck egg zero four
[12:28] Speaker 1: to fifth bug are all none since becoming Prime minister.
[12:31] Speaker 1: But remember it was such an outrage whether Scott Morrison
[12:34] Speaker 1: did or didn't the moving goalposts of the media. Of course, well,
[12:39] Speaker 1: as you know Turkey or Turk Year as they prefer
[12:43] Speaker 1: to be known, Well they are going to be hosting
[12:45] Speaker 1: this meaningless conference, but we're still going to have to
[12:48] Speaker 1: pay for the mini version, which we'll be having in
[12:50] Speaker 1: the Pacific Islands.
[12:52] Speaker 3: We consulted our Pacific neighbors. I spoke with Prime Minister Marapei,
[12:57] Speaker 3: I spoke with Prime Minister Rambuka of VG and what
[13:02] Speaker 3: we did, we've come up with an outstanding result. COP
[13:07] Speaker 3: thirty one will be hosted by Turkey.
[13:10] Speaker 1: Go Go Go. I don't know if you remember when
[13:14] Speaker 1: it was you or maybe a mate, when a relationship
[13:19] Speaker 1: ended neighbor to oh it was it was mutual. We
[13:23] Speaker 1: decided I was equally I was. I wanted to pull
[13:27] Speaker 1: a pin as well. We've got the receipts. They did
[13:33] Speaker 1: not want to break up. They wanted to host it.
[13:36] Speaker 1: And while they're pretending that US not hosting it, but
[13:38] Speaker 1: hosting the mini lead up version is somehow the same
[13:42] Speaker 1: is a little different than how they were talking up
[13:45] Speaker 1: this potential union with the United Nations. Remember they're pretending
[13:50] Speaker 1: that it was a mutual decision. We got dumped.
[13:55] Speaker 4: It.
[13:55] Speaker 5: So also a significant concession for TAKIA to ensure to
[14:00] Speaker 5: agree that Australia would be the COP president for the
[14:02] Speaker 5: purposes of the negotiations. Significant concessions what's required when you
[14:09] Speaker 5: are trying to find consensus.
[14:10] Speaker 3: The climate skeptics in the coalition say, oh, well, Australia
[14:16] Speaker 3: shouldn't do anything because the world.
[14:18] Speaker 1: Needs to act.
[14:19] Speaker 3: This is Australia acting and promoting global action as well.
[14:23] Speaker 3: This is a very strong outcome.
[14:25] Speaker 1: Sorry, let's try that again here they are absolutely talking
[14:29] Speaker 1: up what now they are pretending is a perfect result
[14:31] Speaker 1: when it's not the one they wanted and was going
[14:33] Speaker 1: to cost US a billion.
[14:36] Speaker 6: I'll tell you what.
[14:36] Speaker 5: Would be an even better trade exhibition, a conference of
[14:39] Speaker 5: the party's meeting, a COP meeting here in Australia, which
[14:42] Speaker 5: an alban Eazi labor government will bid to host here
[14:45] Speaker 5: in Australia.
[14:45] Speaker 3: We take a COP very seriously. We are advocating to host.
[14:51] Speaker 5: I know this is a boring answer, but it happens
[14:52] Speaker 5: to be a Facture one. Australia has the overwhelming support
[14:56] Speaker 5: of the world and our group to host COP thirty one.
[14:59] Speaker 5: Continue to advocate for Australia to host the COP. Big
[15:06] Speaker 5: opportunities to host a COP in Australia, and I can
[15:07] Speaker 5: assure you the Prime Minister would be there in Adelaide.
[15:10] Speaker 1: We wanted it. But guess what COP wasn't just that
[15:14] Speaker 1: into us. So we are going to have to accept
[15:18] Speaker 1: the idea that know it will be held by Turkey. Oh,
[15:20] Speaker 1: but the presidency will be out and will be to please. Right,
[15:24] Speaker 1: So I never wanted it. I'm glad we didn't get it.
[15:26] Speaker 1: I know some people wanted it because they wanted the
[15:28] Speaker 1: whole freak show that would come with it. But I'm
[15:31] Speaker 1: glad that the billion dollars aren't going to be spent.
[15:36] Speaker 1: But now that the government is not going to be
[15:39] Speaker 1: spending this billion dollars, perhaps I could suggest where they're
[15:44] Speaker 1: going to spend their billion dollars. The billion dollars that
[15:49] Speaker 1: would have otherwise been spent on the cop well, it
[15:52] Speaker 1: can be spent in a lot of other areas, that
[15:55] Speaker 1: of course being dealing with the fact that what three
[15:59] Speaker 1: million Australia will run out of food sometime this week.
[16:03] Speaker 1: Any chance they're going to move the billion dollars to
[16:05] Speaker 1: that or do we just not spend it because it's
[16:07] Speaker 1: not what we wanted and he didn't want to hang
[16:11] Speaker 1: out with us. I don't care that we are the
[16:17] Speaker 1: facto negotiating this, that and the other. But the government's
[16:21] Speaker 1: got a choice an opportunity here. They spent million dollars
[16:25] Speaker 1: millions of dollars trying to get it. They were planning
[16:27] Speaker 1: to spend a billion dollars. Well, why not spend the
[16:29] Speaker 1: billion dollars on something that will actually turn around some
[16:32] Speaker 1: lives and save some lives here in Australia. Why not?
[16:38] Speaker 1: Or is that, of course just magical thinking a little
[16:40] Speaker 1: bit like Australia is in a position to tell the
[16:44] Speaker 1: rest of the world what to do, despite the fact
[16:46] Speaker 1: that we are not that much part of the problem.
[16:50] Speaker 1: Which brings me to this now when it comes to
[16:54] Speaker 1: climate change, Yes, climate change is real, no question to me. Right,
[16:59] Speaker 1: you can't have seven billion people on the planet, multiple
[17:04] Speaker 1: industrial revolutions without something happening to the natural environment. Now,
[17:09] Speaker 1: whether you believe it to be the catastrophe that we're
[17:12] Speaker 1: going to have a thousand years of heating, which some
[17:16] Speaker 1: scientists were trying to tell us earlier this week, or
[17:18] Speaker 1: whether you are the Bill Gates of it all. I
[17:20] Speaker 1: don't like quoting him, but he says it's not going
[17:22] Speaker 1: to be the end of humanity. Here is an inconvenient
[17:25] Speaker 1: truth about Australia and climate change. We are one percent
[17:30] Speaker 1: of global emissions. One percent doesn't mean we do nothing,
[17:35] Speaker 1: doesn't mean we look the other way doesn't mean four
[17:37] Speaker 1: fifths of bugger all, doesn't mean we don't have to
[17:39] Speaker 1: do our bit. But are reminder here kids, Australia is
[17:44] Speaker 1: one percent of the problem, which means we're one percent
[17:48] Speaker 1: of what is affecting our atmosphere. China, the third world,
[17:53] Speaker 1: that's half of the pollution, the United States, India, Russia,
[17:57] Speaker 1: that's forty five minutes on the climate clock. The reality
[18:01] Speaker 1: is that while we must do our bit, and I
[18:04] Speaker 1: have no problem with doing our bit, whatever we do
[18:07] Speaker 1: here is mainly pushed away by China. Now, of course
[18:12] Speaker 1: it's very rare that we get up in their face
[18:13] Speaker 1: despite the fact that climate change is the single biggest
[18:17] Speaker 1: and most important thing that we must bring. The United
[18:19] Speaker 1: Nations and all of the free loaders to Australia when
[18:21] Speaker 1: they had a chance to talk about it to the
[18:23] Speaker 1: United States President, what do you reckon? Nothing? Zero, No
[18:26] Speaker 1: chat about that. But there's a couple of things we
[18:30] Speaker 1: do have to deal with here, which is to what
[18:34] Speaker 1: proportion does Australia have to do its bid, how fast,
[18:36] Speaker 1: how much. That's a discussion. Now, if you're in the
[18:39] Speaker 1: group of people who says nothing, it's okay, fine, But
[18:43] Speaker 1: The reality is, I don't think you can have what's
[18:45] Speaker 1: seven eight nine billion people on the planet, multiple industrial
[18:48] Speaker 1: revolutions without there being a need for some sort of
[18:51] Speaker 1: an action to what is clearly being done to the planet.
[18:53] Speaker 1: No question, the Liberal Party, as you know, has made
[18:56] Speaker 1: its decision. They're pulling back from the Labor Party approach
[18:59] Speaker 1: to everything, which is net zero by twenty fifty. But
[19:01] Speaker 1: let's all pretend that it's a December twenty forty nine
[19:06] Speaker 1: and quickly, quick, hurry, hurry, hurry, get there, get they
[19:08] Speaker 1: get there now. The Labor Party, of course, loves to
[19:12] Speaker 1: pretend that the Liberal Party position, by moving away from
[19:16] Speaker 1: their commitments and doing things their way, is somehow that
[19:21] Speaker 1: the right of Australian politics doesn't believe in climate change
[19:23] Speaker 1: and has no interest in doing our bit. Perfect example, Murray,
[19:27] Speaker 1: what the Environment Minister today was giving a speech in
[19:30] Speaker 1: Queensland at the Queensland Media Club, and in the same way,
[19:34] Speaker 1: they just light and light and lied over and over
[19:36] Speaker 1: again until yes, the majority of Australians believed it about medicare.
[19:41] Speaker 1: They're sort of doing the same now when it comes
[19:43] Speaker 1: to the Liberals and the Nationals and whether the right
[19:48] Speaker 1: side of Australian politics. The alternative government even thinks there's
[19:51] Speaker 1: a problem to be dealt with. Quote the liberals humiliating
[19:55] Speaker 1: handover of climate and energy policy to the anti renewable
[19:58] Speaker 1: zealots who still debate whether the climate change is real
[20:00] Speaker 1: is like putting Dracula in charge of the blood bank.
[20:05] Speaker 1: Now a little reminder, just like the Medicare thing was garbage,
[20:11] Speaker 1: what is now going to become. The supposed wisdom of
[20:15] Speaker 1: the world is that should there be a change of government,
[20:18] Speaker 1: then Australia will simply do nothing when it comes to
[20:20] Speaker 1: climate change. Well that's not true either. The position of
[20:24] Speaker 1: the opposition is to be proportional that yes, do we
[20:27] Speaker 1: have to do something. You betcha why because we're part
[20:29] Speaker 1: of the world. But where one percent of the problem,
[20:33] Speaker 1: we're not one hundred percent of the solution. In fact,
[20:37] Speaker 1: even after they made the decisions to walk away from
[20:39] Speaker 1: the commitments the government has made in relation to twenty thirty,
[20:43] Speaker 1: twenty thirty five and twenty fifty, the opposition still says
[20:48] Speaker 1: we have to do something about climate change.
[20:51] Speaker 7: Our commitment, which is to reduce emissions year on year.
[20:56] Speaker 2: The reality is is we're still committing to reducing emissions.
[20:59] Speaker 1: Australian's deserve affordable energy and responsible emissions reduction. Reduce emissions
[21:05] Speaker 1: in to bring down your energy bill. Responsible emissions reduction.
[21:10] Speaker 1: That's the truth. But murray what out there today in
[21:16] Speaker 1: Queensland pretending that the opposition's position is nothing to see?
[21:20] Speaker 1: Who it doesn't exist? Knuckle dragon, he whaw stuff despite
[21:25] Speaker 1: the fact that that's not the case. But then there's
[21:28] Speaker 1: the bit that should be a problem for the people
[21:31] Speaker 1: who believe that Australia is able to fix the world's problem.
[21:36] Speaker 1: Again by way of attacking his political opponents, he said
[21:40] Speaker 1: this his senator from Queensland. So his point was the
[21:44] Speaker 1: Federal Coalition's decision exposes Queensland as to more frequent and
[21:48] Speaker 1: more intense natural disasters. We are the most disaster prone
[21:53] Speaker 1: state in the country, with flood, cyclone storms and bushfires
[21:56] Speaker 1: wreaking havoc, taking lives and costing billions of dollars every year,
[22:00] Speaker 1: more than every other state. Queenslanders live in the reality
[22:03] Speaker 1: of climate change every single summer, and it is now
[22:06] Speaker 1: starting earlier. And despite us knowing that climate change will
[22:09] Speaker 1: drive even more disasters, the Federal Coalition has just told
[22:13] Speaker 1: Queenslanders they don't care. Well, I've just shown you that's
[22:16] Speaker 1: not true. But inherent in the attack is the weakness of,
[22:24] Speaker 1: in many ways, the justification that people like Murray What
[22:28] Speaker 1: or the Tiffany Teels or the Looney Greens have when
[22:34] Speaker 1: it comes to if Australia does absolutely everything, then somehow
[22:38] Speaker 1: we will change our own weather. Now again, if every
[22:43] Speaker 1: country was putting in as much effort as we were,
[22:45] Speaker 1: then guess what. Yeah, probably we would start to be
[22:47] Speaker 1: able to slow something. But as I showed you before,
[22:52] Speaker 1: China and the Third World half of all of the pollution,
[22:55] Speaker 1: will barely any of these rules apply to them. Once
[22:59] Speaker 1: you throw in the United States, who've junked all of
[23:01] Speaker 1: the agreements because Donald Trump doesn't believe that's the case.
[23:05] Speaker 1: In fact, you know, he's referred to things like hoaxes
[23:07] Speaker 1: and the rest of it. Once you throw in countries
[23:10] Speaker 1: like India and Russia, even if Australia does every single
[23:13] Speaker 1: thing that someone like a Murray Watt wants, guess what,
[23:16] Speaker 1: We're not going to stop the overall conclusion of what
[23:19] Speaker 1: is happening when it comes to climate change. Now, I repeat,
[23:22] Speaker 1: did you hear the bit at the start where I said,
[23:23] Speaker 1: is climate change real bloody oath. Can you have nine
[23:27] Speaker 1: billion people on the planet without affecting it?
[23:29] Speaker 6: No?
[23:29] Speaker 1: Should have Stralia to do something? Yes, But if you're
[23:33] Speaker 1: saying that the Liberal Party position, which is to do
[23:36] Speaker 1: something about climate change but not as much about climate change,
[23:38] Speaker 1: will mean more flies, more floods, are you promising that
[23:41] Speaker 1: somehow there will be fewer floods and fires under the
[23:45] Speaker 1: Labor Party, under the Greens, under the Teils? No, of
[23:47] Speaker 1: course not. Why not because you can't. So let's just
[23:53] Speaker 1: be a little more realistic. But we are at a
[23:55] Speaker 1: time now where more people view climate change as a
[23:59] Speaker 1: way way of handing on a world that's better than
[24:01] Speaker 1: our own. Previously, that may well have been through matters
[24:04] Speaker 1: to do with living good lives and faith and organized religion.
[24:08] Speaker 1: For other people, it may well have been fiscal discipline.
[24:11] Speaker 1: For others, it might have been national security. But now
[24:13] Speaker 1: this is the symbol of handing a joint on that
[24:16] Speaker 1: is better than we found it. And even if the
[24:20] Speaker 1: Liberal Party position is the one that ends up being
[24:22] Speaker 1: the government's position, we'll guess what we will, because we'll
[24:24] Speaker 1: be putting in effort to try to reverse what's there.
[24:27] Speaker 1: But the promise that unless we do absolutely everything, and
[24:31] Speaker 1: we get the UN to come here and we do
[24:33] Speaker 1: everything that the UN wants, that we're still going to
[24:35] Speaker 1: have flood fire and rain. We'll guess what the reality is.
[24:39] Speaker 1: Even if we do all of that, we will still
[24:40] Speaker 1: have flood fire and rain. When China starts to get
[24:43] Speaker 1: serious about it, then yes we have to step up,
[24:47] Speaker 1: we have to go stroke for stroke. But till then
[24:49] Speaker 1: they are taking the proverbial. Remember what China does with
[24:52] Speaker 1: a billion people in about two weeks is what we
[24:55] Speaker 1: do in an entire year. But of course the Labour Party,
[25:00] Speaker 1: just like they light about medicare, is now going to
[25:02] Speaker 1: lie to pretend that the official coalition position is there's
[25:04] Speaker 1: no such thing as climate change, despite the fact that
[25:06] Speaker 1: both of the leaders are still saying absolutely and they
[25:10] Speaker 1: need to do something about it, but perhaps just not
[25:12] Speaker 1: as fast as Chris Bowen wants to to try to
[25:14] Speaker 1: impress the rest of the world. Those are the facts,
[25:18] Speaker 1: but I look forward to the complaints by me even
[25:19] Speaker 1: pointing out the sheer logic about one percent being able
[25:24] Speaker 1: to solve one hundred percent of the world's problems. Now,
[25:28] Speaker 1: let us talk about how on social media people decide
[25:31] Speaker 1: to well of course, spend your money. Remember this is
[25:34] Speaker 1: while you are working where we have a look each
[25:37] Speaker 1: and every day at the nonsense that happens on social media.
[25:40] Speaker 1: Why because you pay for it. You don't just pay
[25:43] Speaker 1: for it when it comes to their wages. You pay
[25:45] Speaker 1: for it for the special staffer whose job it is
[25:46] Speaker 1: to follow these losers around to make videos like this
[25:49] Speaker 1: one from our old mate in Bonner One little girl
[25:55] Speaker 1: bang husky. And then whatever this is? Look up in
[26:05] Speaker 1: the sky.
[26:06] Speaker 6: Is it a bird?
[26:07] Speaker 1: I think it's a plane. No, guys, it's a both
[26:10] Speaker 1: build GP clinic. When you see this sign, it means
[26:12] Speaker 1: you're entering a fully both build GP clinic or a
[26:16] Speaker 1: rebadged medical center. And then this happened at the state
[26:19] Speaker 1: level too, with the Western Australian premiere. Knock knock, come in, No, no,
[26:26] Speaker 1: knock knock. Who's there? Tank, Tank? Who You're welcome?
[26:34] Speaker 8: You know it's great that Simone is a terrific Creative
[26:36] Speaker 8: Industries minister because as a comedian she's.
[26:38] Speaker 1: Dreadful at telling jokes. Not a serious note, Simone, do
[26:41] Speaker 1: you have any updog? What's up dog? Not much?
[26:44] Speaker 8: What's up with you?
[26:51] Speaker 1: I get it? There are high information and low information voters,
[26:54] Speaker 1: and then there are the ones that are just patronized
[26:57] Speaker 1: by the people in power all day, every day. Thankfully,
[27:00] Speaker 1: we'll have a detailed conversation about, amongst other things in
[27:03] Speaker 1: a moment or two time. Another female leader for the
[27:06] Speaker 1: Liberal Party, supposedly the problem party when it comes to women,
[27:10] Speaker 1: is about to be led by a very accomplished one.
[27:13] Speaker 1: I'm all in on Kelly Slaan. Sh'll do a great
[27:14] Speaker 1: job in New South Wales. We'll also talk about the
[27:16] Speaker 1: problems with truckies and a little bit later, our dear
[27:19] Speaker 1: friend Colin Flynn will join us quick break back with
[27:21] Speaker 1: more here on Plumurray Life. Thanks for watching. Well, this
[27:29] Speaker 1: is exciting. Joe Hildebrand is here in the man cave.
[27:31] Speaker 1: Lots to talk about with him in the wonderful Michael
[27:33] Speaker 1: Kroger making the most of the beautiful place that is
[27:36] Speaker 1: wonderful Melbourne with a pep in his step. Because there's
[27:38] Speaker 1: everything's fine and as a new leader's just a formality, right, okay,
[27:45] Speaker 1: so let us just talk here and again, Look, I
[27:48] Speaker 1: get it, state politics, if it is not the state
[27:50] Speaker 1: of which you live in in a national show, can
[27:52] Speaker 1: be a little bit frustrating. But I did want to
[27:55] Speaker 1: talk about what is now starting to happen here, which
[27:58] Speaker 1: is you're seeing generation, you're seeing a change in gender.
[28:02] Speaker 1: You're starting to see the Liberal Party which is always
[28:04] Speaker 1: referred to Michael as the one that has a problem
[28:07] Speaker 1: with women. And yes, you can point to that in
[28:08] Speaker 1: terms of the seats twenty seven of the twenty eight
[28:11] Speaker 1: they've been lost since twenty twenty two. When you look
[28:13] Speaker 1: at the electoral role, every single one of the twenty
[28:16] Speaker 1: seven of those twenty eight had more women enrolled to
[28:19] Speaker 1: voting those electorates and men. And of course I'm not
[28:21] Speaker 1: suggesting all women at once in all blokes, but nice
[28:24] Speaker 1: foot forward. This is a good thing that they're going
[28:26] Speaker 1: to do in New South Wales. If it makes you
[28:28] Speaker 1: competitive in an electorate that in many ways wants to
[28:32] Speaker 1: see a change, good.
[28:35] Speaker 7: Yeah, Look it's going to be tough still, the coalition
[28:39] Speaker 7: needing twelve seats up there, and it's almost it's over
[28:42] Speaker 7: nine percent swing to win government, so that's a big number.
[28:46] Speaker 7: But look, she's very presentable, she's very bright, she's got
[28:51] Speaker 7: a very good career in the media, which which certainly
[28:54] Speaker 7: helps you a lot. And as I saying last night,
[28:57] Speaker 7: I mean, look, person The personality of a leader in
[29:02] Speaker 7: state politics is today incredibly important because the public don't
[29:06] Speaker 7: have time to read through every policy and understand everything.
[29:10] Speaker 7: They go by a general They vote according to their
[29:13] Speaker 7: general impression, the general impression of the two leaders. That's
[29:17] Speaker 7: basically what they're doing these days. And Malan Nowsks is
[29:20] Speaker 7: a perfect example. Everyone seems to like him, but no
[29:23] Speaker 7: one could name a single policy he's got. So I
[29:26] Speaker 7: think she's going to be I think she's going to
[29:27] Speaker 7: be good. And we've got to start out here in
[29:29] Speaker 7: Jess Wilson, who again, another big mountain to climb, but
[29:33] Speaker 7: if anyone can climb that mountain, she can because she's
[29:36] Speaker 7: had a wealth of experience in politics all her life.
[29:40] Speaker 1: Now, let's all feel old. About twenty years ago, Joe
[29:43] Speaker 1: and I were working at it through last Parliamentary Press gallery.
[29:46] Speaker 8: That's right back when democracy was grading.
[29:48] Speaker 1: Oh wasn't it just evenh was flawless and.
[29:51] Speaker 8: Driving a light in dark corners.
[29:53] Speaker 1: But what's really interesting is that as oh so much
[29:56] Speaker 1: policy and politics has changed, right, it was really interesting.
[30:00] Speaker 1: And look, you know, I know you don't want to
[30:02] Speaker 1: keep a guy on his damn But still, when everyone's
[30:04] Speaker 1: giving outsort of the roses to Mark Speakman, I what
[30:07] Speaker 1: a wonderful speech. It was thirty minutes and he was
[30:09] Speaker 1: carrying on like you'd been the prime minister for fifteen years.
[30:13] Speaker 1: Again great, fine, fair enough, thank all the people you
[30:15] Speaker 1: have to I get it. But he also was needed
[30:18] Speaker 1: to be gelligned out of the damn thing. And the
[30:22] Speaker 1: reality is is that fixed four year terms not generally
[30:27] Speaker 1: not in place, like news of Wells one term governments.
[30:29] Speaker 1: So the conversation that will inevitably be happening, or the
[30:32] Speaker 1: pitch that happens is give me two cracks at it,
[30:34] Speaker 1: give me two cracks added. Reality though, he is, but
[30:37] Speaker 1: it doesn't would have thought that at a certain point
[30:39] Speaker 1: in time. Jess Wilson maybe to a certain point in time,
[30:42] Speaker 1: and potentially Kelly Sloane here too. So there is a
[30:45] Speaker 1: reality here that Chrismin is doing pretty well. He's moved
[30:49] Speaker 1: the ball forward. But but but he's leading a minority
[30:52] Speaker 1: government right now.
[30:54] Speaker 9: Yeah.
[30:54] Speaker 8: Look, I think technically made with the latest Kiama Bi
[30:59] Speaker 8: election that it's win. He might Yeah, that's right, something
[31:02] Speaker 8: he might just been in front. That is absolutely true.
[31:05] Speaker 8: Technically it was until very recently minority government However, the
[31:09] Speaker 8: margins that he got in some very very blue blood
[31:14] Speaker 8: liberal seats at the last election, like he looked like
[31:17] Speaker 8: he was going to knock off a few, you know,
[31:19] Speaker 8: he was getting fifteen percent I think in one of
[31:22] Speaker 8: the seats in south southern Sydney, you know, real blue
[31:25] Speaker 8: ribbon liberal stuff. So in a sense it was a
[31:27] Speaker 8: very uneven swing towards labor. But I don't think Chrismians
[31:31] Speaker 8: is going anywhere. I think Kelly Slane is an absolute
[31:33] Speaker 8: fantastic choice as leader. I think she was the obvious
[31:37] Speaker 8: choice and the only obvious choice as leader. And frankly,
[31:40] Speaker 8: I think the fact that Mark Speakman didn't realize when
[31:44] Speaker 8: it was time to go just underscores how unsuited he
[31:49] Speaker 8: was to the job. It just could not I mean,
[31:51] Speaker 8: you could not read the room less than to know
[31:55] Speaker 8: that this was your chance, frankly to potentially dodge a
[31:58] Speaker 8: bullet because he would have un perform badly, but also
[32:00] Speaker 8: to shore up your political future. He could have, like
[32:03] Speaker 8: a John Brumby, you know, come back immediately. Didn't go
[32:06] Speaker 8: well at the polls, but at least got to say
[32:07] Speaker 8: it was premier. You step aside gracefully, you say you
[32:10] Speaker 8: know the colleagues have spoken and you know, arrange for
[32:14] Speaker 8: yourself to become the next shadow treasure or whatever.
[32:16] Speaker 1: Correct.
[32:16] Speaker 8: And then in state politics, as the last Liberal government
[32:19] Speaker 8: New South Wales show, it's like a kid's birthday party,
[32:23] Speaker 8: passed the parcel, everyone gets a prized everyone gets the president.
[32:26] Speaker 1: Everyone got that term now, Michael, I asked Stephen Conroy
[32:28] Speaker 1: this question last night and they probably should have been
[32:30] Speaker 1: the one that I led off with you now, but
[32:31] Speaker 1: as a bloke who of course party president, you've been around, right,
[32:36] Speaker 1: have you ever been in the let's let's not do
[32:37] Speaker 1: names here, but have you ever been in one of
[32:39] Speaker 1: those conversations the looking the dead duck in the eye
[32:44] Speaker 1: saying to them on the day where they woke up
[32:47] Speaker 1: saying I'm going to hold on, but by the end
[32:48] Speaker 1: of the day you know they're done. And generally speaking,
[32:52] Speaker 1: do they know it or do they all think they're
[32:54] Speaker 1: Winston Churchill and know I've got to come back in
[32:56] Speaker 1: me like, how give me an idea about what some
[32:59] Speaker 1: of those more uncomfortable moments alike, because obviously everyone likes
[33:03] Speaker 1: each other, well not always, but give me an idy
[33:05] Speaker 1: what it's like when you are tapping on the shoulder.
[33:10] Speaker 7: So Mate, I was in one of those discussions. Normally
[33:13] Speaker 7: in the Liberal Party it's a matter of the members
[33:15] Speaker 7: of Parliament, so people outside the parliamentary party basically don't
[33:19] Speaker 7: have much of a role, but I was in one
[33:21] Speaker 7: of them many years ago. I remember more talking to
[33:27] Speaker 7: a few federal members back in the late nineteen eighties
[33:30] Speaker 7: where I had to go to their home and explain
[33:32] Speaker 7: that I was withduring my support from their pre selection.
[33:36] Speaker 7: And whether it's a leader or a member of Parliament,
[33:38] Speaker 7: you get the same reaction, and it's a belief that
[33:46] Speaker 7: they can do no wrong. They've been told for years
[33:49] Speaker 7: that they are going to be prime minister, They're going
[33:51] Speaker 7: to be premier. They're fantastic, you gave a great speech,
[33:54] Speaker 7: You're wonderful so many people.
[33:59] Speaker 3: You know.
[34:00] Speaker 7: Adulation that our MPs get is extraordinary from the public,
[34:04] Speaker 7: from party members, from the media, etc. And they believe it.
[34:09] Speaker 7: That's why the disconnect between Canberra and Spring Street, state
[34:13] Speaker 7: Parliament around the country and reality can be a big one.
[34:16] Speaker 7: Many of our MPs are totally out of touch with
[34:20] Speaker 7: what is going on. That's the problem because they fall
[34:24] Speaker 7: victim to the adulation syndrome and they believe it, and
[34:28] Speaker 7: also they don't believe you when you tell them it's
[34:31] Speaker 7: time to go mate.
[34:32] Speaker 1: But also it's a thing about politics and Joe. You know,
[34:34] Speaker 1: we've seen it this from the media side of things.
[34:38] Speaker 1: So many politicians believe the ultimate solution to everything is
[34:41] Speaker 1: more me. Sometimes me is the problem. And when you're
[34:45] Speaker 1: having a conversation with just general people, go more me.
[34:48] Speaker 1: You will work. Oh we won't. All right, all right,
[34:50] Speaker 1: A couple of other things to get to here, including
[34:53] Speaker 1: before we get to the net zero of it all.
[34:56] Speaker 1: I liked it. In Victoria they are starting to talk
[34:58] Speaker 1: about the idea of actually changing laws to say that,
[35:02] Speaker 1: like a week before an auction, the actual reserve price
[35:05] Speaker 1: must be known to all of the people are going
[35:07] Speaker 1: to try to bid on a house. This is a
[35:09] Speaker 1: very nice, very simple, I'm sure somebody else's idea, but
[35:13] Speaker 1: I'd love this to go national. Why because we've all
[35:16] Speaker 1: been in the scenario where you're put in the little
[35:18] Speaker 1: search to real estate dot com dot are you about
[35:21] Speaker 1: where am I going to go through? And then you
[35:22] Speaker 1: start to go ooh, this one, this one, and it
[35:25] Speaker 1: ends up being very different because of the information that
[35:28] Speaker 1: realistate agents are putting on it. You think that this
[35:30] Speaker 1: is a good idea.
[35:31] Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's a great idea. And similar things
[35:33] Speaker 8: have been tried in Victoria and here in New South
[35:35] Speaker 8: Wales as well, where you know, you basically said you can't.
[35:38] Speaker 8: You know, you're banned from under quoting, and in real
[35:40] Speaker 8: estate agents who underquote are going to get, you know,
[35:43] Speaker 8: severely penalized, and of course you round them up afterwards,
[35:46] Speaker 8: even sending in, they sending secret agents to auctions and
[35:48] Speaker 8: stuff and speak to oh, how much you record, we'll
[35:51] Speaker 8: go for blah blah blah, And even when they're out
[35:53] Speaker 8: by a factor of hundreds of thousands of dollars, which
[35:55] Speaker 8: was inevitably always the case, that could just say, oh,
[35:59] Speaker 8: but I honestly thought that, you know, defense of the truth,
[36:01] Speaker 8: your honor. So I think it does need to be
[36:03] Speaker 8: something more set in stone. You can't obviously pretend you
[36:07] Speaker 8: don't know what the reserve is. So yeah, roll it
[36:09] Speaker 8: out and roll it out everywhere.
[36:11] Speaker 1: Fine and fair enough, Now, Michael, let's get to the
[36:12] Speaker 1: cop of it all. Don't you love the Prime Minister
[36:15] Speaker 1: once he's sort of been rejected by you know, the
[36:17] Speaker 1: beautiful objective affection that is the United Nations. He tried
[36:21] Speaker 1: to cuddle up. He brought the roses and all of em.
[36:23] Speaker 1: It's going to be a big night, big a couple
[36:26] Speaker 1: of days in Adelaide. Right, United Nations says, sorry, we're
[36:29] Speaker 1: going with Turkey, but don't worry. Here's the lipstick on
[36:32] Speaker 1: the pig, which means, old mate Bowen can keep blah
[36:35] Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Here's the deal. Right. I love
[36:37] Speaker 1: that they're all going to turn around. And I heard
[36:39] Speaker 1: a couple of people say this, Oh, they weren't really
[36:41] Speaker 1: that into it, garbage. They spend millions of dollars being
[36:45] Speaker 1: into it.
[36:46] Speaker 7: I saw the video a minute ago, Bowen saying we're
[36:48] Speaker 7: hot favorite to win. Look, here's the realm of this one.
[36:52] Speaker 7: Labor are very lucky. They didn't get this conference. Agree,
[36:55] Speaker 7: I mean two billion dollars in Adelaide. I mean there
[36:58] Speaker 7: would have been a whole year of Susan Lee and
[37:01] Speaker 7: Dan teen and every state liberal leader talking about how
[37:04] Speaker 7: two billion dollars is going on on this conference. That
[37:09] Speaker 7: would have murdered labor. They are very lucky. Secondly, what's
[37:13] Speaker 7: the world's done. The world has enough problems, Paul. Now
[37:18] Speaker 7: we've foist it upon these unsuspecting nations of the un
[37:22] Speaker 7: Chris Bowen. Right, for a whole year, this flake's out
[37:25] Speaker 7: there banging. It was bad enough to have foist on
[37:28] Speaker 7: the Americans, Kevin Rudd, and now we've foist it on
[37:31] Speaker 7: the world, Chris Bowen. I mean, the only good news
[37:34] Speaker 7: is that the more Toming spins out of the country,
[37:36] Speaker 7: the better. But here's the rubb of it. Susan Lee
[37:40] Speaker 7: has probably had her best week as leader of the
[37:42] Speaker 7: Liberal Party this week, and Dan Teen's done very well too.
[37:46] Speaker 7: She's turned what could have been a disaster and many
[37:49] Speaker 7: of us thought this might turn into disaster and zero.
[37:53] Speaker 7: Lee has very successfully turned this into a debate about
[37:56] Speaker 7: one question, when will energy prices go down? Mister ALBERANUSI yep.
[38:01] Speaker 7: And she's said it one hundred times this week, and
[38:04] Speaker 7: it's impacting. And I think it's impacting a lot more
[38:07] Speaker 7: than the loss of a net zero target because people
[38:11] Speaker 7: think they've now starting think they've been conned.
[38:13] Speaker 1: No, I've had a good week. I agree completely, But
[38:16] Speaker 1: it's also why it's why I point out the Murray
[38:18] Speaker 1: what thing right get ready for the lie being, they
[38:20] Speaker 1: don't believe in clonmate change, they don't think anything to do. No,
[38:22] Speaker 1: despite the fact they all stay in their position. It's
[38:24] Speaker 1: why I'm showing it. It's why I'm going to keep
[38:26] Speaker 1: showing it. So when you inevitably have these arguments over
[38:29] Speaker 1: a weekend, you get to push back. Lads, I literally
[38:32] Speaker 1: need five seconds from both of you. Win a loser
[38:34] Speaker 1: of the week, Joe Hildebrant.
[38:36] Speaker 8: Look, I'm going to go with winner Kelly Sloan pretty
[38:38] Speaker 8: self evidently she won and won in a really clean
[38:41] Speaker 8: way without even getting your hands dirty, so a classy act.
[38:44] Speaker 8: The loser. Look, I was going to go with Mark Speakman,
[38:47] Speaker 8: but he's already suffered enough, so I'm just going to
[38:49] Speaker 8: go with anyone who's in the Epstein file.
[38:52] Speaker 1: I think that going to have a rough few weeks.
[38:54] Speaker 1: All right, We've got to Colin Flint standing by in
[38:57] Speaker 1: Ireland before we get to him. Let us Mike your
[39:00] Speaker 1: winner and loser.
[39:01] Speaker 7: No, Well, I was just going to say, as I said,
[39:03] Speaker 7: I think Susan Lee's had a crack over a week
[39:05] Speaker 7: and as I said, Chris Bowen and the world, what
[39:09] Speaker 7: have they done? Deserve him?
[39:10] Speaker 1: Good stuff? Thank you, ladies to appreciate it talking you again,
[39:12] Speaker 1: have a wonderful weekend. All right, quick break back with
[39:15] Speaker 1: more please to talk about, including on make Colin Flynn. Now,
[39:17] Speaker 1: you know we like to end the week with a lovely,
[39:20] Speaker 1: lilting voice. You will hear it in a moment or
[39:21] Speaker 1: two time, and he's talking about Michael Flatley. Get ready
[39:25] Speaker 1: for the dance time, kids, Thank you so much for watching.
[39:34] Speaker 1: What a great way to end our week to talk
[39:36] Speaker 1: to our dear friend Colin Flynn. Now, of course he's Irish,
[39:38] Speaker 1: normally based in Rome, but currently is in Monaco, even
[39:42] Speaker 1: though the Formula one is of course now in Las
[39:44] Speaker 1: Vegas this weekend. So to what do we owe the
[39:48] Speaker 1: pleasure of the principality my friend? Yeah?
[39:51] Speaker 6: Well, you know, Paul, when I was walking in here
[39:53] Speaker 6: this morning, so this very exquisite venue, I looked at
[39:56] Speaker 6: the yachts bobbing up and down in the water, and
[39:58] Speaker 6: some Bentley's passed me. You know, this is just you know,
[40:01] Speaker 6: this is normal life for people like you, Paul, But
[40:03] Speaker 6: for me this is very excittion. This is so exciting
[40:06] Speaker 6: to be here. Because you played a clip of him
[40:08] Speaker 6: before the break. Kids, you might not know who Michael
[40:11] Speaker 6: Flatley is, but Paul, I know you do a whole
[40:13] Speaker 6: generation grew up with one of the biggest entertainers in
[40:16] Speaker 6: the world. He is Irish American and you know Paul
[40:20] Speaker 6: coming from Ireland. Irish dance which is big in Australia
[40:23] Speaker 6: as well. It was always done a certain way, hands
[40:25] Speaker 6: by your side, very stiff. And then look at this
[40:28] Speaker 6: this man in nineteen ninety four bursts onto the scenes
[40:32] Speaker 6: during the Eurovision Song contest where.
[40:34] Speaker 1: He wore this silk top.
[40:36] Speaker 6: He had the hands out, he was dancing like a
[40:38] Speaker 6: madman and it took off like a crazy sensation. He
[40:43] Speaker 6: became one of the most successful entertainers in the world,
[40:45] Speaker 6: earning two million pounds a week. His legs were insured
[40:49] Speaker 6: for forty million. And now he lives here in Monaco.
[40:52] Speaker 6: This is one of the smallest nations in the world.
[40:54] Speaker 6: Only thirty eight thousand people live in this small country
[40:57] Speaker 6: in the bottom of France. But it's attacks heaven. A
[40:59] Speaker 6: lot of wealthy people.
[41:00] Speaker 1: Here, so there's probably I think there's a rag anyway.
[41:08] Speaker 6: So he's going to be here in a few in
[41:11] Speaker 6: around twenty minutes, sitting across from me, and he's going
[41:13] Speaker 6: to tell me all about his life story and it's
[41:15] Speaker 6: going to be fascinating, but It got me a thinking, Paul,
[41:18] Speaker 6: I've had the privilege of meeting some people today who,
[41:21] Speaker 6: in their own way, have done like he did. They've
[41:23] Speaker 6: changed Irish dancing in some way, the style, the look
[41:26] Speaker 6: of it, the feel. They're helping to make it sexier.
[41:30] Speaker 6: And I wanted to bring you two of those stories
[41:32] Speaker 6: very quickly, just to end the week there in Australia.
[41:34] Speaker 6: One is Morgan Bullock. She's an African American girl who
[41:38] Speaker 6: I went to meet in Richmond, Virginia.
[41:40] Speaker 1: Now.
[41:41] Speaker 6: Growing up, she always Irish danced, but then she put
[41:44] Speaker 6: this video on TikTok of her dancing to Beyonce. It
[41:47] Speaker 6: got a massive reaction. You're talking tens of millions of views.
[41:51] Speaker 6: But Paul, don't you know they're always a group who
[41:53] Speaker 6: went and said, look, this is cultural appropriation.
[41:56] Speaker 1: You can't do this.
[41:58] Speaker 6: In fairness to her, she said, Nah, what are you
[42:00] Speaker 6: talking about. There's a difference between appropriation and appreciation. Here's
[42:05] Speaker 6: a little clip of her inaction, and when I got
[42:07] Speaker 6: to chat to her.
[42:11] Speaker 9: I saw it for the first time at a recital
[42:13] Speaker 9: and it was just the coolest thing ever to.
[42:15] Speaker 6: Meet the negative comments that people were leaving onto the video.
[42:23] Speaker 1: What were people saying just early.
[42:25] Speaker 9: On, like shortly after posting it, some people were saying
[42:28] Speaker 9: that what I was doing was cultural appropriation, just because
[42:31] Speaker 9: I don't look like what you would typically picture an
[42:34] Speaker 9: Irish answer to look like. It's important for people to
[42:37] Speaker 9: recognize that there's a difference between appropriation and appreciation. I
[42:41] Speaker 9: think people use the term appropriation without knowing what it
[42:44] Speaker 9: really means.
[42:54] Speaker 6: Isn't that wonderful? She embraced it, and she actually went
[42:58] Speaker 6: on to dance in river Dance. We did that TV report,
[43:01] Speaker 6: so she was wonderful. The second group, they're brothers from Ireland.
[43:04] Speaker 6: They're called the Gardner brothers, Michael and Matthew, and they
[43:07] Speaker 6: are just two characters, two chancellors. They went viral with
[43:10] Speaker 6: their dancing. You can see on screen dancing to modern music.
[43:14] Speaker 6: And again you have to remember it was Michael Flatley
[43:16] Speaker 6: who broke the mold because up until then you had
[43:19] Speaker 6: your hands down by your side, you looked really serious.
[43:21] Speaker 6: There wasn't a whole lot of fun. It was very
[43:23] Speaker 6: formulaic in Irish dancing. He changed things and now these
[43:26] Speaker 6: are the people who are following, and they're actually making
[43:28] Speaker 6: a lot of money out of this. Now they travel
[43:31] Speaker 6: the world dancing in stadiums. They do tourism engagements for
[43:35] Speaker 6: countries all over the world, like they danced in Dubai,
[43:37] Speaker 6: Saudi Arabia, even on the Great Wall of China. And
[43:41] Speaker 6: here's a clip of them talking to me about what
[43:43] Speaker 6: they do and again them dancing in Ireland.
[43:47] Speaker 4: This has become our full time job now, which is
[43:49] Speaker 4: you know, obviously incredible. It's definitely not something we thought
[43:52] Speaker 4: we would do when we were studying architecture and engineering college,
[43:55] Speaker 4: but you know, it is our full time job. And
[43:58] Speaker 4: social media as much as it it kind of just
[44:00] Speaker 4: looks like having fun and looking putting videos online and suffer.
[44:03] Speaker 4: It has become a full time job and we get
[44:05] Speaker 4: to work with some great brands all over the world
[44:08] Speaker 4: and you know, promote the Irish culture as much as
[44:10] Speaker 4: you can all over the world.
[44:19] Speaker 6: Isn't that just wonderful? And there are two of the
[44:21] Speaker 6: nicest guy's poll. They were in Australia actually recently dancing.
[44:24] Speaker 6: And here's my question for you. Are we going to
[44:26] Speaker 6: see you dance at the end of this pole? Can
[44:28] Speaker 6: you do a bit of Irish dancing for us?
[44:31] Speaker 1: I'm doing it underneath the table right now. Made as
[44:34] Speaker 1: best as I can help me out right, because now
[44:36] Speaker 1: I don't know if you can answer this right. I
[44:38] Speaker 1: don't know which is the derivative and which is the original. Right.
[44:40] Speaker 1: But watching a lot of that stuff and having two
[44:43] Speaker 1: little girls who love their dance lessons, there seems to
[44:47] Speaker 1: be a lot of crossover between the present, the modern
[44:50] Speaker 1: presentation of Irish dancing and things like tap dancing. Right
[44:54] Speaker 1: is that? Do you know which one came first?
[44:59] Speaker 6: Oh? Which one can him first? I could make up
[45:01] Speaker 6: an archer hearing sounds just smart, but yeah, it was
[45:05] Speaker 6: derived from tap dance?
[45:06] Speaker 1: Soon don't you know?
[45:07] Speaker 6: Back? But I'll tell you what actually when you talk
[45:10] Speaker 6: about the old and the new, and this is one
[45:11] Speaker 6: thing I'm going to talk to Michael Flatley about. He
[45:13] Speaker 6: still gets a lot of slack about this because there
[45:16] Speaker 6: are the traditionalists in Ireland who say that is not
[45:19] Speaker 6: Irish dance. When you're flaring your hands around, you have
[45:22] Speaker 6: to wear certain you know, shoes and outfit.
[45:25] Speaker 1: The look should be.
[45:25] Speaker 6: Serious and it's all about the technique. That creative flair
[45:28] Speaker 6: is not welcoming. A lot of the feches still today.
[45:31] Speaker 6: But Michael Flatley makes the point as well. These Irish
[45:34] Speaker 6: dancing dresses. If you've seen them, they can cost somewhere
[45:37] Speaker 6: up to three thousand dollars. You have to buy the
[45:39] Speaker 6: wigs of the fechhes, the makeup. It's an expensive game too.
[45:43] Speaker 6: Michael Flatley grew up in a poor suburb of Chicago.
[45:45] Speaker 6: He was digging ditches with his dad. He came from nothing.
[45:49] Speaker 6: He wouldn't have been able to afford the traditional sense
[45:51] Speaker 6: of Irish dance, and the irony is that he has
[45:54] Speaker 6: become now one of the wealthiest Irish dancers on the
[45:56] Speaker 6: face of the planet.
[45:57] Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait for the chat. We look forward
[45:59] Speaker 1: to saying it in all of your socials. Thank you
[46:01] Speaker 1: so much, Colin. We'll talk to you again next week.
[46:03] Speaker 1: What a life he's got. How good is that is
[46:05] Speaker 1: in Monaco? Is talking Irish dance, is chatting on Aussie Telly.
[46:10] Speaker 1: We love him mate, all the best. You noticed I
[46:12] Speaker 1: didn't ask him about dancing. I just assume it's part
[46:14] Speaker 1: of the DNA. All right, quick break back with more
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[46:32] Speaker 1: the country. Monessing. Hey, I haven't forgotten that it is
[46:40] Speaker 1: a big weekend and the next couple of days in
[46:43] Speaker 1: the Northern Territory cyclone which is on its way concerns
[46:47] Speaker 1: are as early as Friday. There might be something that'll
[46:50] Speaker 1: be seen in Darwin. The latest that we heard today
[46:53] Speaker 1: from officials about its trajectory comes from the Bureau of Meteorology.
[46:57] Speaker 1: This is what they had to say today. The degree to.
[47:01] Speaker 10: Which Darwin will be impacted depends on the track. If
[47:06] Speaker 10: the track hugs the TB Island coast, then the impacts
[47:10] Speaker 10: will be less on Darwin. If the track moves closer
[47:13] Speaker 10: to the mainland North Australian coast, then Darwin is likely
[47:17] Speaker 10: to see the impacts of the cyclone during Saturday.
[47:21] Speaker 1: Please prepare, take care. I know you've seen a whole
[47:24] Speaker 1: bunch of things. You've lived a lot of things in
[47:26] Speaker 1: your life. You've heard lots of warnings, but the reality
[47:30] Speaker 1: is best case scenario. You end up in this scenario
[47:34] Speaker 1: where there is a lot of warnings not much follow through.
[47:38] Speaker 1: But if there is any follow through police. Take care
[47:40] Speaker 1: of yourself again part of the warnings being given to
[47:42] Speaker 1: our mates up north.
[47:44] Speaker 7: Be prepared, but don't panic. There is no need to
[47:47] Speaker 7: panic at the moment.
[47:49] Speaker 1: Now pay attention to everything, including the sky News Weather
[47:51] Speaker 1: channel again accessible via Skyies, dot Com, dot Au, Flash,
[47:54] Speaker 1: Foxtel or whichever way it goes. You know how that
[47:57] Speaker 1: is now big sporting event this weekend. It is a
[48:01] Speaker 1: second last, third last I think of the Grand PRIs,
[48:04] Speaker 1: meaning the chances of Oscar Piastre being able to get
[48:08] Speaker 1: back his lead to potentially become the World Driver's champion. Well,
[48:12] Speaker 1: he has now fallen to second. The gap between him
[48:15] Speaker 1: and his team Mattelando Norris is not massive. But if
[48:17] Speaker 1: he does not win in Las Vegas this weekend, pretty
[48:21] Speaker 1: much over. Can he win, bloody oath. It's all about qualifying.
[48:25] Speaker 1: It's all about whether or not, of course, his team's
[48:27] Speaker 1: truly going to back him in, or whether they have
[48:29] Speaker 1: already decided which of the drivers they are going to
[48:31] Speaker 1: back in. Wink wink, But we wish him nothing but
[48:35] Speaker 1: the best. He's had a huge year. It's a massive event,
[48:38] Speaker 1: I think because of American time zones rather than sort
[48:41] Speaker 1: of early morning. It might be a little bit closer
[48:44] Speaker 1: to lunchtime on Sunday, you'll be able to see qualifying,
[48:47] Speaker 1: Monday the race, throw in the ashes, and we'll throw
[48:50] Speaker 1: away the remote. Busy weekend ahead. Thank you so much
[48:53] Speaker 1: for watching us. Now, next week we are going to
[48:55] Speaker 1: celebrate fifteen years of Paul Murray life. Now, for those
[48:58] Speaker 1: that like to follow Wikipedia and everything else, yes it
[49:00] Speaker 1: is true. I was here for a couple of years
[49:01] Speaker 1: before we turned everything into Paul Murray Live. But twenty
[49:05] Speaker 1: ten big turning point in my life, big turning point
[49:08] Speaker 1: in the career. And next week we are going to
[49:10] Speaker 1: celebrate pretty emotional stuff, but fun stuff to looking back
[49:14] Speaker 1: at what has been a wonderful fifteen, the first fifteen
[49:18] Speaker 1: of what is going to be the rest of our
[49:19] Speaker 1: lives together.

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